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KLaw Pocast 2 (some Rangers talk)

KLaw has his second podcast up, and this one focuses on the Futures Game.  The podcast starts off with some Feliz talk.  KLaw said his velocity was down a bit, and that he has seen better outings from him.  However, Keith tempers this by saying that he was not as close with his radar gun as he was trying to stay out of the rain, plus the weather conditions were less than optimal.  They also talk about Holland/Feliz and breaking them into the majors by the bullpen, though giving starts to Nippert rather than Holland is not a good idea.  Keith is not a fan of how the Rangers are using Holland.  He understands that the Rangers are trying to win this year, but he believes they should put Holland into either the rotation or the pen and they should leave them there for the remainder of the season.

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me and him both

I still don’t understand moving him to the bully for Nippert. Just another completely random Rangers decision.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 14, 2009 11:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Not random.

I agree with Adam, that whoever is in that spot will have 2, maybe 3, starts until Harrison returns.

by octoberty on Jul 14, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

so why does harrison get a free pass back into the rotation?

he has a couple really good games the first month, but has been inconsistent since his return and never where he was and then he got hurt again and has been out another month. now when he returns, he’s gifted his rotation spot back, if either holland or nippert were to produce similar numbers to harrison’s good streak, something holland wont get a chance to do, then i see no reason why harrison would waltz right into his rotation spot.

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Jul 14, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why wouldn't

you leave him in until you have a better option, and no, Nippert isn’t a better option.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 14, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe they figure there gonna need him in the rotation for the final run

and want to keep his innings down now, so they don’t have to worry about it then?

by octoberty on Jul 14, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's pitched

under 65 innings so far. I think even if he is in the rotation he isn’t going to have that many innings. Its not like he is gonna go 9 a game.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 14, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wasn't sure if that was a concern or not..

But what if he was pitching well in the rotation, what do you do with Harrison?

by octoberty on Jul 14, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I typically

don’t worry about what to do when I have too many good options for pitching. In my experience as a Ranger fan, injuries or suckitude will take care of it.

If it doesn’t, I see no reason not to ease in Harrison back through the bullpen.

However, Nippert being a starter is just a horrific option. Guys like Nippert and Doug Mathis starting is the reason this club took a flyer on Kris Benson, trying to find more depth.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 15, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well...

MLB.com and most other scouts had him at 97-101.

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Jul 14, 2009 11:45 AM CDT reply actions  

re: Holland

KLaw is a very, very, very smart man.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 14, 2009 12:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Smarter than Nolan Ryan?

Smarter than the 70’s Orioles & Dodgers who seemed to know how to break in young pitchers as well?

Don’t think so.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 14, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

At the risk of being called "Josey obsessed"

This is some hilarious shit on so many levels.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 14, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gdawg

You are one of many in the LSB parade who run behind me with a shovel.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 14, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I tried to rec this times a million

but alas it didn’t work. Get ’em Dawg.

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by Parman on Jul 15, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

x

It seems that most of us here agree that we should either use Holland out of the pen or stick him in the rotation for as an uninterrupted period as we can… Whichever one we think is best, I’m not sure how many people like the whole “He’s scheduled to start on Saturday, but Wednesday night we need a long man, so get Holland in there” type of use.

by FuturePants on Jul 14, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know

Adam linked my post the other day, which said the same thing, pick a role and stick with it. He said he didn’t really agree, and almost all of the responses disagreed with me. Maybe I came off as more dramatic with my concern, I don’t know.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 14, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm

Maybe I didn’t catch that discussion thread, but whether we are in the camp that thinks he should be a full time starter or the portion that thinks that he should be broken in via the bullpen, are there really people that think the rapid shuffling of him back and forth is a good idea? Seems a bit extreme.

by FuturePants on Jul 14, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

it is the yanking him back and forth

that I don’t agree with. Same as KLaw.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 14, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

i wouldnt think too much of the responses, z

i remember that day distinctly as a day AJM threw out a long diatribe on the situation, then a couple other “expert” takes on the situation which exacerbated the biase on one side or another. by the time your topic was posted, the community had kinda chosen sides and were suited up and ready to go to battle.

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Jul 14, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I only had one question regarding your article that didn't get answered

Which was whether Holland’s spot starts were more the result of necessity versus dinking around with the guy’s bullpen/rotation status; i.e. Nippert was still on the DL, etc.

Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on Jul 14, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's probably a matter of opinion, really

I mean that last move was obviously not necessity. There was no reason that Nippert had to start on that last Sunday over Holland. The same could be said about one or two of the occasions when he went back into the rotation, though in fairness options like Hunter and Moscoso didn’t look as good then as they do now.

For me, it’s not like Holland is going to be good enough as a starter that it will make a ton of difference whether he’s making a couple of starts for your or Moscoso is. So it’s a question of whether you believe that volleying him between the roles – and as I said in the previous discussion, in particular ramping him up so quickly when you do put him back in the rotation – is a dangerous enough practice that you avoid it, whether he’s a slightly better or slightly worse option than the others available. I don’t know that it is, but I do worry that it is, and since we’re talking about someone who is very important to the organization and who, if mishandled, just disappears (like Jovanny Cedeno and Colby Lewis and Eric Hurley and to a lesser degree Ryan Dittfurth Ben Kozlowski and Thomas Diamond), I want to err on the side of caution.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 14, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking of podcasts

I just caught up with the latest offering from Adam, Jamey & TPrice.

OK but kinda meh and missing some undefined spice. It was my second listen because the first time I tried to get through it on Sunday night, I fell asleep.

Lots of venom from ajm regarding the AS selection of MYoung – wow. He was a player’s choice and this selection further validates how his peers feel about him.

Also didn’t understand the venom towards Hank as well. Put down your weapons, that war is over – Davis is gone, Hank is hitting and the team is winning.

And word just now came down that Longoria has an infected ring finger and noneother than Michael Young is the starting 3B in tonight’s AS Game.

LOL!!!!!!

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 14, 2009 12:58 PM CDT reply actions  

who the fuck else is gonna start at 3b?

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Jul 14, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why so crabby, Jayslick?

The Face of the Franchise is starting!!!!

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 14, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's not "The Face of the Franchise"

fucker

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Jul 14, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Joe Morgan's line last night cracked me up

Something like: He’s not a great player because of his numbers. He’s a great player because of how much his teammates love him. Step aside clutch and grit, we have a new abstract quantity that trumps any measurable: teammate-ness.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 14, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd rather listen to Joe Morgan for eternity

than another 5 minutes of Steve Phillips.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jul 14, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Have ya

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 14, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd rather die...

than have to listen to either one of those guys for eternity.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jul 14, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh, yeah

that made lol last night. And gawd, was that broadcast team about as horrible as you can get or what?

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Jul 14, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Young can play a little as well, BP.

Ranger 3B have one of the OPS in the AL for their position and I think the rest of baseball (players) recognizes all the crap that Young has put up with and done for this team over the years.

Lots of intangibles but lots of substance as well.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 14, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not ragging on Young

The LSD-laced universe in which Joe Morgan resides just cracks me up.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 14, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is baiting, Irwin.

And you’re a master…

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Jul 14, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh

good choice of words.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jul 14, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well done

His effect on his club’s play in The Show cannot be overstated. He was also a team player who put up with all kinds of crap and singlehandedly kept that thing afloat. If Sparky had asked him to take the bump as a starter or work out of the bully, he would have done it. Without him, that thing would have been a bleeping disaster on the field and at the gate.

"andruw jones hits 3 HRS at LA of Anaheim last nite after hitting zero at LA of LA as Dodger in all of '08. thats nuts." SI_JonHeyman

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 14, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I see what you did there....

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Jul 14, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

And don't forget NOAA..

Ripken commands respect in that room as well.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Jul 14, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought Josey actually wrote this...

after reading it, and scrolled right past the actual author.

"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin

by benmor78 on Jul 14, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Congrats on being awake after 5pm during the week, benmor

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 14, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

x

Yeah, I caught that part also. Joe Morgan made it seem like the Rangers keep Michael young around is because of how good a teammate he is and not his playing ability.

by GregoryM on Jul 14, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

OT: Pedro to Philly

Link.

Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.

by TheJeezus on Jul 14, 2009 4:57 PM CDT reply actions  

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