Wednesday a.m. Rangers things
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 15, 2009 9:53 AM CDT
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PrintThe day after the All Star Game is traditionally the slowest sports day of the year. And if you don't care about the Home Run Derby or the game (as I don't), it is the slowest three sports days of the year...as I'm sitting here, I know the A.L. won, but not the score or anything that happened.
Anthony Andro says yesterday was a special day for Michael Young, who was making his first start in an All Star Game.
Bud Selig says MLB helped the Rangers, and it was something that MLB has done in the past with other teams, but didn't go into any details.
I missed this earlier, but Kevin Sherrington said last week that the Rangers basically have no chance against the Angels, because the Angels "hit better, work pitchers better, play small ball better, field better, pitch better, manage better." And the Angels have been a better offensive team this year than the Rangers...but field better?
The Rangers are 6th in DER this year, the Angels 25th. The Rangers are 7th in UZR this year, the Angels 10th.
And while the Angels have a better FIP than the Rangers do, some of that is due to park effects...realistically, the Rangers and Angels have pitched equally well so far this year.
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Running the bases
Sherrington forgot to mention just how well the Angels run the bases.
by Excel Hearts Choi on Jul 15, 2009 10:00 AM CDT reply actions
And thier wives are better looking
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
And they eat healthier food
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Jul 15, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions
And they give more in the collection plate at church.
"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009
Well...
That’s because they make more.
And they have that awesome 55mm 5th outfielder that they took direct from their farm-team in Arlington.
And they have better Road Whores
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
And the
trolls on their blog are better
by Michael Cave on Jul 15, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
And their kids love going to school there.
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
And their Pets are friendlier
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
And their kids aren't picked on at school...
right Torii??
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
can't wait to see what the 2nd half brings.
Feliz, Smoak, Sheets, passing the Angels up…
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 15, 2009 10:03 AM CDT reply actions
Bleah.
I’d like to add a pitcher who can strike some people out if we’re gonna add somebody, myself.
Although, amazingly enough even Doug Davis would lead our starters in K/9 this year.
"You know, I’m playing entirely too much." - Andruw Jones
"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels
I meant the signing
not his pitching…I’d like to see us lock him up pronto, now that the draft is over
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 15, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe you guys heard this...
….but last night after the game in his post-game interview, I’m pretty sure Carl Crawford referred to the President as “Osama.” Did you guys catch that? I was at my computer and wasn’t paying real close attention, but that’s what I heard.
by FuturePants on Jul 15, 2009 10:07 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
It also sounded like Joe Buck kept calling Brad Hawpe "Hoff"...
"You know, I’m playing entirely too much." - Andruw Jones
"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels
"Don't Hassle the Hoff"
I pronounce it “Hwapey”
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 15, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Yup
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
Did the ASG MVP trophy used to be a half-sized glass bat?
I don’t ever remember seeing that before. I would’ve thought somebody in marketing would’ve thought better of producing a trophy like that, myself.
"You know, I’m playing entirely too much." - Andruw Jones
"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels
x
It seems like when MY won it, it was some sort of cup/trophy.
by FuturePants on Jul 15, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I just rifled through my baseball cards to find the pic of it
His is kind of an elongated upright star.
"You know, I’m playing entirely too much." - Andruw Jones
"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels
I don't think so
In the clip you posted I think he says “even get an autograph ball signed by him” but it certainly sounded like it on first listen.
Close
I think its “even get an autograph ball signed by Obama” but he said it so quickly and mumbled it all so its hard to understand.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
that's awesome
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 15, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Obama's pitching motion
looked like an effeminate man who was swatting flies.
Concerning Ranger & Angel pitching staff comps – my personal AS Break project will be seeing who has more Game Scores of 50+. Maybe those numbers will tell us something we don’t know.
I said the Rangers would go 73-89 before the season so I’m very stunned at how well this team has played and responded to the changes Nolan Ryan has implemented but I’m still not sure what to expect of them in the second half.
There is nothing fluky about them but they have obvious flaws (OBP!!!!!) that need to be rectified before I can get excited about their chances to win the AL West or go the wild card route.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
Are you going to count Lackey's two pitch effort?
by FuturePants on Jul 15, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Absolutely, FP
He started the game and failed to register a Game Score of 50+.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 15, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Game Scores 50+
Texas Rangers – 44
LAAAA Angels – 39
Given the states of these two bullpens, the Texas Rangers have the vastly superior staff and if they can fix their OBP (along with good health), they will win the AL West.
Ranger Breakdown of Game Scores 50+:
Millwood & Feldman (12), Padilla (7), McCarthy (5), Harrison (3), Holland (2), Hunter (3).
Whose bright fucking idea was it to have Benson start the season in the rotation with Feldman in the bully?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
Nolan Ryan's
You can’t have it both ways Josey.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
Ranger Mad
If this is so, exactly what does JD do?
Ryan doesn’t put together the roster…he brought in new coaches, instituted a new conditioning policy for pitchers along with implementing a different philosophy for pitchers than had been previously espoused by JD and Thadwick.
If you feel that’s not true, what exactly does JD do?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
Along those lines
I give JD full credit for ODay & Grilli but he also gets full blame for Benson.
JD also gets full credit for KKKKKKKKKKKKKKris Davis being here 6 weeks too long and for Andruw Jones either solving or f’ing up our DH issue.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
I am just saying that you can't go
and pick and choose which decisions to attribute to Nolan or JD because you do not know because you were not in on the meetings in which those decisions were made.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
JD put this team together
and Kris Benson was his call all the way.
If you don’t think so, ask him tomorrow night.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
I noticed that about his throwing motion as well
I’ve always been amazed how many politician types look completely unnatural throwing a baseball. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t expect them all to have a crisp throwing motion like a veteran baseball player, but many of them look like they have never thrown a baseball before that moment. Maybe they haven’t, which if true, makes me sad for America. Playing some form of baseball, whether Little League or just pickup games as a kid (or Luke many of us, both) ought to be a prerequisite for citizenship, much less holding elected office.
Say what you want about George W. Bush, but the man can throw out a first pitch.
"andruw jones hits 3 HRS at LA of Anaheim last nite after hitting zero at LA of LA as Dodger in all of '08. thats nuts." SI_JonHeyman
by WestTxAg06 on Jul 15, 2009 10:41 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
So could his dad
He was a college baseball player at Yale if im not mistaken.
by Michael Cave on Jul 15, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
They both were starters for Yale, IIRC.
"Thats all we got? One goddamned hit?" - Harry Doyle
"You cant say god damn on the radio."- Colorman
"Ehhh, who cares...nobody's listening!"- Harry Doyle
President Obama said that he never played organized baseball growing up.
So throwing a baseball isn’t really natural to him.
by GregoryM on Jul 15, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
excuses excuses
lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 15, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
But as a dude...
…you throw all kinds of things – keys, beers, footballs, whatever, don’t you? I do.
by FuturePants on Jul 15, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
yea
its not like throwing a baseball is like havinga good baseball swing or a good golf swing
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 15, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
if he's anything like me,
his shoulder is blown out, his elbow is blown out, and he’s just glad his arm didnt go dave draveki in front of 60k
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
unless you were born in hawaii, have mixed raced parents
were raised by your grand mother, and are the president
hes nothing like you :)
lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 15, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
my mother is irish and my father german
thats mixed race, no?
oh, i get what you mean.
whispers Im not black whispers
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
well nor are you the president
thats the bigger one lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 15, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
if you know you're going to go out there and throw in front of the world
you practice your ass off until you get it right.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 15, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Right.
Because the President of the United States is really concerned about impressing people with his mad baseball skills, hasn’t managed to prove his athletic prowess on the basketball court already, and has nothing better to do with his time than practice throwing out a first pitch.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
because it takes so much time to go throw 100 pitches?
bull
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 15, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
When you're the President, and your schedule is already packed every day,
and that’s not how you want to spend whatever free time you have?
Please.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
instead he plays basketball, right"?
at least he isnt on the list of top 10 worst first piches
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 15, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
That'd be my guess.
He enjoys playing basketball, and played it a bunch before he was President. Not so much with baseball, from the sound of it.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
from the sound of it?
from the look of it lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 15, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
he's a lefty, you just dont like his arm slot
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 15, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
he had time to fly across the country doing NCAA brackets?
this is BASEBALL. And he’s a White Sox fan.
I am proud of him for wearing that jacket, though…has to really piss off the Cubbies fans
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 15, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
i was impressed he did wear it
was gutsy
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 15, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
He's a huge basketball fan, and plays the game,
and I’d bet they don’t let him play ball on Air Force One.
Again, it’s a matter of how the man wants to spend his free time, and I’m not going to protest that he should have practiced his first-pitch skills until he looked like a pro on the mound for the meaninglessness of the All-Star Game.
The jacket was a nice touch.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
I gave my criticism, and then I gave him props.
Not my presidential choice, and I’m not a fan of many of his decisions, but I’ll be respectful to the man.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 15, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Fair enough.
Though your initial criticisms weren’t tempered by any props, which is partly why my response was what it was.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
I try too hard at times
to overcome all of the generic, mindless “Bush is horrible! Let’s boo him as he throws out the first pitch!” rhetoric that flies freely around these parts at times.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 15, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree with this.
Unfortunately, I think that sort of reaction is now part and parcel of the level of public conversation in this country.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
Sleep well at night, America...
even though Obama throws a baseball like Rip Taylor used to throw confetti on The Tonight Show.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 15, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
what makes your life a joy?
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
What makes my life a joy?
Watching my kids excel at their passions.
Knocking a 175 yard 6 Iron stiff to the pin and draining the putt.
Sex
Baseball
Beer
Honking the tits of LSB with unwavering opinions & predictions that nobody else has the stones to say that are eventually proven correct. The Blalock Incident of early July ’09 was a good example of this.
Devouring books on history (Read "The Fifties by Halberstam) and books by Bill James & Joseph Wambaugh
Sitting on my porch with my cooler and my beagle overlooking the pool and listening to XM with a nice beer buzz.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 15, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm Jealous
Sitting on my porch with my cooler and my beagle overlooking the pool and listening to XM with a nice beer buzz.
I would do this, but thet frown drinking and operating a commercial vehicle.
"Thats all we got? One goddamned hit?" - Harry Doyle
"You cant say god damn on the radio."- Colorman
"Ehhh, who cares...nobody's listening!"- Harry Doyle
Let's go JSlick...
What makes your life a joy?
Sidebar – Is that gay to ask of another man or do I get an All-Star break exemption?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
here goes josey
-Traveling across the country by car and seeing the world change the further you go and realizing how big this country and world is
-Paying 6 bucks for a seat in 231 and sitting in section 18 so much the aisle lady thinks we have season tickets.
-knockin boots
-Camping and Hunting
-the Hill Country
-a whataburger after a month or 2 out of texas
-reading the markets better than experts
- good scotch
- a fat bowl with good friends
- teamwork
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
JB
With all due respect, fuck you.
:)
It’s 73 degrees at the most in the greatness of San Diego.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
cry me a river
I’d kill for some decent fish tacos around here, and perfect weather
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 15, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
you guys aren't as different as it would seem
we are all in this together, afterall
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 15, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't recall Bush ever wearing a Rangers jacket
That’d have been cool.
Though he was pretty vocal about listening to Rangers games his whole time in office.
Go Rice Owls!
im pretty sure he's made a comment about never missing a game while he was in the WH
im sure a lot of Tivo was involved, but still cool
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
He said that he practiced in the Rose Garden and then warmed up in the 'pen with Pujols.
by GregoryM on Jul 15, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Did he say how many pitches he threw in the Rose Garden?
This whole thing is silly.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
I'm surprised film of him warming up wasn't the lead story on the evening news...
The way he gets his stuff fondled most nights.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
That was a very odd angle Fox
initially showed of Obama’s “pitch.”
Almost as though they were expecting the worst.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 15, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
heh didnt exactly show
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 15, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Must've choked
"You know, I’m playing entirely too much." - Andruw Jones
"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels
If you can play basketball
you can throw a baseball like a man.
Obama has no excuse.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 15, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
You're still a fucking coward, Wales.
Go away before I take you out to the woodshed again.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
so you agree
he doesnt throw like a man? lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 15, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Snark - An unnecessary F Bomb before noon on an off-day no less? Really?
Don’t get your panties in a bunch – I betcha Michelle Obama can bring some serious chin music.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 15, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
When are F-bombs strictly necessary, Wales?
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
Go draw somebody else offsides, little buddy.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 15, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
You don't need help from me to wind up offsides, Wales.
You’d single-handedly ruin any soccer team you might play on.
Not that you’d ever play soccer, of course, because that’s such a liberal pussy sport, right?
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
Agreeance
Soccer is a pussy Euro-sport polluted with metrosexuals in comparison to sports like baseball, basketball and football.
Is that RC Cook I hear about to jump off the top rope?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 15, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
i like soccer.
side question: how is basketball a “manly” sport?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 15, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Listen, there goes the whistle, and the flag is up.
Offsides, Wales.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
Not really, Snark.
I hate soccer and don’t care for the type of athletes it attracts at the highest levels.
A sport that goes ga ga over a properly executed “header” and has zebras running around threatening it’s participants with red & yellow cards is a pussy sport.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 15, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
And up goes the flag again.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
Soccer
Watch the English Premier League.
Wayne Rooney, Steven Gerrard, Javier Mascherano, Michael Essien- not a pussy in the bunch.
Now the Spanish League and Serie A in Italy? Yeah, I can see your point. But England, Germany, Russia, Holland, even the US- they’re all very physical leagues, and players who make their living via finesse learn quickly to toughen up or go home.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
RC Cook
They’re great athletes, especially at the highest levels but I don’t like the sport or the way the players flop continuously.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 15, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Fair enough
I hate golf and don’t much care for tennis. To each his own.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
How is the NBA any different?
Never mind the non-US professional leagues…
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
Manu isn't American.
"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem
by inactive lsb user on Jul 15, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Neither is the flopping.
"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem
by inactive lsb user on Jul 15, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, please.
Laimbeer? Wilkins? Stockton? Wade? Ainge? Miller?
I believe they were all Americans, through and through.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
I was being snarky.
But, honestly, flopping being un-american may not be too far removed from the actual perception.
For instance, Dirk’s toughness is constantly called into question, by Mavs fans to boot.
"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem
by inactive lsb user on Jul 15, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Busted sarcasm-meter, apparently.
I think you’re right about the perception, which is why I got snarky back. Americans in the NBA taught the rest of the world how to flop…
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
I bet 50 bucks, we could turn Josey into a Scouser, RC
any1 who feels so strongly towards the other way is screaming to be shown the el jugo bonito
The thing i love about people here is that baseball is such a complex sport with so many detail oriented areas of concentration that i have found they can be sold on footy b/c of the same aspects. baseball from an outsiders point of view is a game slow as molasses where no1 sees a ton of action unless they know what to look for. footy is the same way. you can see a 1-0 or 1-1 game and it can be one of the best games youve seen, like a 1—0 pitchers duel.
there is a correlation between the 2, ive found
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
Yep
I was a casual soccer fan as far back as 1994- I would watch the World Cup, but that was about it.
I got a little more into it in the late 90s after playing the EA FIFA game, but didn’t get serious about the sport until a couple buddies of mine convinced me to really give it a try about five years ago.
I also find it a bit similar to hockey, in that players who don’t score can still be stars if they’re good passers or defenders, as well as how the ball movement mimics how a hockey team will pass the puck around looking for a weak spot in the opponents’ defense.
And yeah, I’ve seen some great 1-0 matches. Liverpool vs. Madrid last year being a case in point.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
just drop Vinnie Jones
and tell him to go watch Lock Stock
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 15, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
It's funny ~ my interest in EPL began
when a British friend convinced me that I should follow the sport. Because he was a Wimbledon fan, so, too, was I. This was in fall of 1998. Whoops.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
They should have had a teleprompter out there on the mound
The dude can do anything if its on a telepromter
+1
Even if I’d never played baseball at all, if I was gonna throw out a first pitch I’d rather embarrass myself by uncorking one over the guys head than making a sissy lob up there.
"You know, I’m playing entirely too much." - Andruw Jones
"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels
Presidential First Pitches
Circling the Bases (a nice website about baseball news) had this to say about presidential first pitches:
I LOVE that Obama came out in his White Sox jacket. Clinton would have conducted focus groups before deciding what to wear. Bush would have worn a bomber jacket or something. Obama is a fan, and no matter what your politics are, you have to respect that. As for his pitch: Eh, it was a lollipop job that made Tim Robbins in “Bull Durham” look like Roger Clemens, but at least it made it to the plate on the fly. Unless Greg Maddux ever becomes president, I think George W. is going to hold the record for the sharpest Commander-in-Chief first pitch.
by Excel Hearts Choi on Jul 15, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah, that's the thing.
GWB set the bar very, very high for Presidential first pitches. The fact is that Obama didn’t bounce it (courtesy, at least in part, of a nice pick by Pujols), and while his mechanics left something to be desired (way too much scaploading!), it wasn’t a bad pitch.
"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009
who thought youd ever read:
GWB set the bar very, very high for…
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
this is great
i want someone to do a pitch f/x of the obama pitch as well as a scouting report on his motion
id love to see this for bush, etc
would be a great site/idea — anyone want to help out lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 15, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't particularly care for Obama but I do respect the office.
I think he had a vest on underneath the Sox jacket. May have gotten in the way of his motion. The man got to shake hands with Stan Musial and Bob Gibson. Being the pres definitely has its advantages.
It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca
Willie Mays Flew with Obama on Air Force 1
that had to be cool for any person, even the pres.
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
I bet Teddy could've thrown some heat
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 15, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Chin Music
Given the way Teddy took on big business as president, I bet he would have given somebody some chin music, and then stared them down.
by Excel Hearts Choi on Jul 15, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 15, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
i dont care
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 15, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
what's OC's beef with Teddy?
how can anybody NOT like this man?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 15, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
with pic sizing
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 15, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
ITS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i didnt know the minimize post thing was back or i woul dhave
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 15, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
TR
My favorite Prez.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 15, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Mine too
Oddly enough.
Strange that we’d have that in common, given our sizeable political differences.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
Roosevelt can be many things to many people.
“Rugged individualist,” awillis calls him below, yet he was also a Progressive…
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
RC
I will recognize greatness no matter the party affilliation (see my respect for Truman) and TR was the goods.
I will also recognize when the POTUS throws a baseball like a chick.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 15, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Im telling you guys, its arm slot. he's lefty. we're different i tell ya
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
The Most Underappreciated President in the History of the Franchise.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
Ronald Reagan
That man knew how to be president. Put him on Rushmore
Yeah
be president by running up the deficit, and reverse 40 years of paying down the debts from world war 2 to put us on the path to our current bankruptcy, and use some of that money to prop up Saddam Hussein and Al Qaida.
He was just tremendous.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
I take it you didnt buy a house in the Carter maladminsitration
and have a motgage in the mid teens. Those were good times
The mortgages in the mid teens
and the high interest rates were what broke the back of inflation that started in the LBJ and Nixon years when we were pissing away money in Vietnam, and when Nixon closed the Gold window. Thank God someone (Paul Volcker, appointed by Carter) had the balls to stop easy money back then, and Thank God Carter appointed him. I only hope someone has the balls to raise interest rates in 5 years when Bush’s financial mess morphs into raging inflation.
Ronald Reagan was able to basicly able to deficit spend his way to a good economy and undue all the hard work that 35 years of Presidents did to reduce the debt.
Republicans are good for platitudes about the economy, but they really have one solution. Spend a bunch of money on the military, cook up some bogus wars, don’t cut any of the other spending, lower taxes, let deficits bloom, and live high on the hog on the future’s credit cards.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
that is AWESOME.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 15, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
i was looking for a diff TR cartoon
but couldnt find it and found this on inseated
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 15, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Do you figure the opposing team wore jerseys reading
“$500,000,” “Octopus,” or “Plot”? The whole thing’s too big to fit…
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
if Salty can fit that on the back
why couldn’t they put $500,000 as their number, Octopus as the mascot on the front and their name + Plot on the back?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 15, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
TR
looks like he’s pumping his fist would be my guess.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 15, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Why would any politician look great throwing a ball?
Most of these guys haven’t played sports in a long time and they’re well past their primes.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
I thought I was the only one who didnt really care about the ASG
and btw, the Rangers dont play until friday?????. I guess that thursday is an off day. That blows.
Oddly enough, I've actually enjoyed not having to take our nightly seesaw rides these past couple days.
I’ve got a feeling that a couple evenings of not having anything to do will remedy that, though.
"You know, I’m playing entirely too much." - Andruw Jones
"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels
x
The Rangers being in first place (or very close thereto) all summer has made me way stressed out. The games are more enjoyable, sure, but also just so punishing on my health. Until they win the World Series, I don’t see things improving.
by FuturePants on Jul 15, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Word.
"You know, I’m playing entirely too much." - Andruw Jones
"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels
Amen to this.
It’s easier when the Rangers are stinkin up the joint – you just go, “oh well” and move on.
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08
negative.
losing sucks more than being in 1st and hanging onto every pitch…
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 15, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't think she said "better."
She said “easier.”
by FuturePants on Jul 15, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Yep.
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08
Even with all the advantages that Sherrington says the Angels have
over the Rangers, they are only 2-7 vs Texas this year.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
so they have every advantage
over us except that they don’t have the advantage of having the advantage over us?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 15, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Would you please draw mw a map?
I’m getting lost!
"Thats all we got? One goddamned hit?" - Harry Doyle
"You cant say god damn on the radio."- Colorman
"Ehhh, who cares...nobody's listening!"- Harry Doyle
Is quoting Kevin Sherrington
more or less silly than quoting JJT?
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
totally OT
More than 15 years after the government took control of Hacienda Napoles, the elephants, giraffes and zebras have long since disappeared, given away to Colombian zoos or left to die.
But the hippos were never claimed because they were too large and ornery to move. Now the original four have multiplied to 16 and, far from starving to death, as some expected, they have learned to forage like cows. In fact, local authorities say they represent a safety hazard — and are standing in the way of plans to redevelop the late drug lord’s estate.
story about pablo escobar’s hippos — pretty interesting
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
Hippos are nasty-tempered animals, too.
Good luck with all that.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
that is awesome
I read somewhere that the hippo may be the most dangerous animal in existence.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 15, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, at one point they were responsible for more deaths in Africa
than any other wildlife, though that’s mostly to do with frequency and context of contact…
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
That's something I could hear Cliff Claven
say on an old episode of “Cheers.”
“Yeah, Normy, Carla, Sam – did you know that the hippopotamus is responsible for more deaths in Africa than any other wildlife?”
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 15, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
If theyare such a problem,
whay aren’t they already on somebdies dinner plate?
"Thats all we got? One goddamned hit?" - Harry Doyle
"You cant say god damn on the radio."- Colorman
"Ehhh, who cares...nobody's listening!"- Harry Doyle
Have you ever eaten hippo?
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
did you read the story?
evidently they have good meat
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 15, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Didn't read the story. I have eaten hippo. I don't agree about the meat.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
hmm ive always wondered
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 15, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't seek it out,
unless maybe you’ve got awillis along with you.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
and a BIG gun.
from what I know if Hippo, they are actually very violent.
"Thats all we got? One goddamned hit?" - Harry Doyle
"You cant say god damn on the radio."- Colorman
"Ehhh, who cares...nobody's listening!"- Harry Doyle
Very nasty tempers.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
Taste like chicken?
Throw a little fajita seasoning, ..
"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem
by inactive lsb user on Jul 15, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Heh. Hippo fajitas. That'd be... interesting.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
Hippo Tacos
They taste awful, but make you cool.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Jul 15, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Naw, that's possum
Or, opossum, for the zoological crowd.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Jul 15, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
No,
I was just wondering. Has eating Hippo ever been, done? Surely it couldn’t be any worse than Cajuns eating crawdads.
"Thats all we got? One goddamned hit?" - Harry Doyle
"You cant say god damn on the radio."- Colorman
"Ehhh, who cares...nobody's listening!"- Harry Doyle
It's done.
In my experience, it’s pretty damn awful stuff.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
Any wild meat can be awful if not cured correctly.
I love venison cured in buttermilk, but can’t stand it cured in saltwater.
"Thats all we got? One goddamned hit?" - Harry Doyle
"You cant say god damn on the radio."- Colorman
"Ehhh, who cares...nobody's listening!"- Harry Doyle
The thing is, hippo meat tastes a bit like it's been cured in saltwater,
when it’s fresh. Dried, it’s just… ugh.
There weren’t a lot of curing options where I was, though, and I suppose if someone with the tools and the talent got a hold of a bunch of hippo meat, maybe it’d be palatable… but I don’t know why anyone with the tools and talents would bother.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
where were you?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 15, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Crawdads are TASTY
and so is gator. I wouldn’t bet on Hippo tasting too good…
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 15, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Gator tail os something I'd like to try,
but I can’t even stand the smell of cooked Crawdad.
"Thats all we got? One goddamned hit?" - Harry Doyle
"You cant say god damn on the radio."- Colorman
"Ehhh, who cares...nobody's listening!"- Harry Doyle
Gator tail is damn tasty.
I like crawdads, as well…
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
Doesn't Razoo's have gator tail on their menu?
"Thats all we got? One goddamned hit?" - Harry Doyle
"You cant say god damn on the radio."- Colorman
"Ehhh, who cares...nobody's listening!"- Harry Doyle
It's been a while since I've eaten at Razoo's,
but yeah, I think you’re right.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
confirmed
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 15, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
gator is awesome
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 15, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Totally
Well, maybe not the best thing, but they are delicious as hell.
by FuturePants on Jul 15, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
how about if we expand it to "southern food" is the best thing about living in the south?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 15, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
The beautiful women is the best part of living in the south.
The food is pretty good too.
It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca
Yeah, the girls are the best.
Spend a day cruising around Austin or Dallas. Then spend a day wandering around New York City. Big, big difference.
Especially the red hot spicy ones, served on a giant tray, for free.
At the Men’s Club :)
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
Heh. And you were talking about being drawn "offsides"?
I’m surprised you’re a fan of TR ~ I’d have figured you for a big supporter of Millard Fillmore.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
Why do the two have to be mutually exclusive?
Being a believer in TR’s “rugged individualism” and Conservativeism, tend to go hand-in-hand.
"Thats all we got? One goddamned hit?" - Harry Doyle
"You cant say god damn on the radio."- Colorman
"Ehhh, who cares...nobody's listening!"- Harry Doyle
I was thinking more of Fillmore's 1856 presidential run
as a Know-Nothing.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
That's OK,
I misread your post anyway. You said MILLARD Fillmore, and I read MALLARD Fillmore.
"Thats all we got? One goddamned hit?" - Harry Doyle
"You cant say god damn on the radio."- Colorman
"Ehhh, who cares...nobody's listening!"- Harry Doyle
Is that the duck in the newspaper cartoon strip?
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
Yeah,
The one that is always blasting Bill Bradley and Dan Rathers.
"Thats all we got? One goddamned hit?" - Harry Doyle
"You cant say god damn on the radio."- Colorman
"Ehhh, who cares...nobody's listening!"- Harry Doyle
I'm not very familiar with it.
I think I read it once when I mistook him for Howard.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
Not sure if this was directed at me
but my favorite presidents….
TR
Truman
Eisenhower
Lincoln
Washington
If TR played soccer he’ll have to go under further review.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 15, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Jefferson doesn't make the list?
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
Cna't really add Jefferson,
Since he was duplicitous about personal liberty and slavery.
"Thats all we got? One goddamned hit?" - Harry Doyle
"You cant say god damn on the radio."- Colorman
"Ehhh, who cares...nobody's listening!"- Harry Doyle
Lincoln wasn't a saint about the status of African Americans, either.
And more broadly, if you chucked out all of the Presidents who were duplicitous regarding essential freedoms, you really wouldn’t have many left from which to choose…
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
That would also include most of our Founding Fathers,
when you take into consideration that they chose expediency, by allowing slavery, for the sake of the Union, rather than standing on principle.
"Thats all we got? One goddamned hit?" - Harry Doyle
"You cant say god damn on the radio."- Colorman
"Ehhh, who cares...nobody's listening!"- Harry Doyle
Jefferson was a top 10
and give Reagan some props as well.
JFK wasn’t prez long enough to make an accurate assessment and he had some pretty good fuck-ups as well.
I’m most interested to see how Dubya is treated by history.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 15, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
JFK makes it for his stance on loering taxes,
and standing up to the USSR, during the Cuban Missile Crisis
"Thats all we got? One goddamned hit?" - Harry Doyle
"You cant say god damn on the radio."- Colorman
"Ehhh, who cares...nobody's listening!"- Harry Doyle
*lowering
"Thats all we got? One goddamned hit?" - Harry Doyle
"You cant say god damn on the radio."- Colorman
"Ehhh, who cares...nobody's listening!"- Harry Doyle
My guess is, "not well."
I’m most interested to see how Cheney is treated by history.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
you never know
a lot of unknowns could come out between now and “then” – when history is rewritten.
I’d imagine a lot of people that haven’t already made up their mind from biased reporting and mindless, lazy belief will have their eyes open to some new shit…new shit that has come to light.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 15, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
As I wrote, it's a guess.
I’m skeptical that there will be any “smoking guns” of the type you seem to be imagining.
And I imagine that 50-100 years from now, the 2000-2016 period will not appear nearly as terrifying or as critical as many of us seem to feel.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
I think
we are seeing the end of the American Century. I don’t think America will have the wealth to be the world’s policeman anymore. I think it has been a long process, starting in the 80s, when we transitioned from investment more to borrow and consume.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
I think there are several ways to look at the "American Century,"
and most of the better ones involve looking at what other nations were doing and thinking during the period. I’m not sure the U.S. population has the stomach for another American Century, to be honest, even if the economy allowed it.
It’s entertaining reading about the fears of Chinese domination, though.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
He's a fascinating character.
Unfortunately, I think it’s unlikely that we’ll ever get the biography his life (and the American public) deserve.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
Add JFK and GWB, and I'll agree.
"Thats all we got? One goddamned hit?" - Harry Doyle
"You cant say god damn on the radio."- Colorman
"Ehhh, who cares...nobody's listening!"- Harry Doyle
And Reagan
"Thats all we got? One goddamned hit?" - Harry Doyle
"You cant say god damn on the radio."- Colorman
"Ehhh, who cares...nobody's listening!"- Harry Doyle
ahahaha...
that’s one horrible list of top presidents.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Then please, kind sir, regail us with your list of top 10 Pesidents.
"Thats all we got? One goddamned hit?" - Harry Doyle
"You cant say god damn on the radio."- Colorman
"Ehhh, who cares...nobody's listening!"- Harry Doyle
I'll wager it starts with
Clinton, Obama (already), FDR…
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 15, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Please...
there’s a difference between being liberal and being stupid.
As I said below, doing any top presidents list without FDR and Jefferson is a joke.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Not really
many don’t believe in the programs established by FDR.
Of course, history treats him as a saint and potentially the greatest president ever, but the guy grew government, if nothing else.
"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem
by inactive lsb user on Jul 15, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
What happened at Pearl Harbor
goes on the FDR ledger as well.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 15, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep
amazing how you are viewed if you satisfy certain interests.
"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem
by inactive lsb user on Jul 15, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
FDR
“lets take all these ideas hoover had, repackage them and call it the new deal!”
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 15, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow...
Alright. You guys can go on believing that GWB, Reagan, and JFK were better presidents than FDR and Jefferson.
I’ll go ahead and continue to live in the real world.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
where have i said that at all?
i had one quote, i havent submitted a top 10 presidents list
FDR DID steal a lot of ideas that made up the new deal from hoover
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 15, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
hoover never put them into action, they were not ideas put into law
his idea put into law were a complete failure, hell he had veterans of WW1 almost storm the white house and capital
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
FDR's ideas were failures also
Many feel that his new deal actually prolonged the depression rather than ended it. Maybe if the New Deal hadnt passed it would only have been a mediocre depression instead of a great depression.
WW 2 actually had more to do with ending the depression than anything
talking points straight from the GOP
thanks for stopping by but the pragmatic realists are trying to have a big boy discussion on politics. we can do without the 9th grade level historical lesson with the GOP talking points blended in for that certain, middle american public school blue collar ignorance
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
WW2 was a massive stimulus
and a good argument for a bigger one right now.
What prolonged the depression was FDR’s misguided attempt at balancing the budget and reducing spending that brought on the 1937 recession. The economy had been improving prior to that.
Remember that in a year or two when people start talking about lowering the defecit.
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Unfortunately
we can only borrow so much and we are definitely getting back to WW2 levels.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
Well, we're at war
and have a huge recession, so there are parallels aplenty. Worry about the defecit later. I fully expect Obama to start talking about cutting the defecit in a year to 18 months. Then we’ll have 1937 all over again (not as severe, of course, I don’t expect 20% unemployment).
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Reagan
instead of making government work better let’s just say all government sucks.
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And then grow the size of government.
while borrowing money to do so.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
After running your campaign
on how ridiculous the federal defecit is. I still remember that debate where he compared the relative size of a billion and a trillion. Meanwhile Carter actually shrank the defecit.
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Yeah, unfortunately
the Republicans talk a much, much better game on fiscal sanity than they play.
In 2000-2006 when they had total control, we saw what game they play, and its the same gameplan we’ve been seeing since Reagan. Boost defense spending, don’t aggressively cut other spending, and lower taxes and let deficits bloom.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
FDR can be debated
I’ve long argued that he’s very GWB-like. He responded to major crises in very direct, no-compromise sorts of ways. The Depression and WWII were not easy things to deal with, and he did it His Way.
Like Bush, he had his share of corrupt power-grabbing moves – remember the whole stacking the Supreme Court debacle? Imagine if Bush had tried that?
My real problem with FDR is the lead-up to WWII. Very similar to the lead-up to Iraq. Obviously the war was just (whereas that is debateable for Iraq). But there is sufficient evidence to at least raise doubts about Pearl Harbor and the provocation of Japan.
And definitely his deals with Stalin at the end of the war are despicable.
The thing is, FDR won the war against the most powerful forces of evil this world has ever really faced. He protected this country, and I give him big props for that.
Go Rice Owls!
FDR stopped the collapse of capitalism and free market economy
as well, it took years, but it cant be ignored. while spain, italy, even us and UK were running towards communism and socialist extremes, he and congress and the courts pushed us down the road towards modern free market capitalism we know today
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
I'm not saying FDR was bad
I agree with you – I think that in the ’30s most of the world thought it had to choose between fascism and communism, and whatever FDR did, his application of a few social safety nets was sufficient to maintain the democratic capitalist system. Who knows if there was another path through that gauntlet, but we did make it through.
FDR had a role in shaping modern America and the world. And while I would argue many of his policies are now archaic and merit revisiting, I’m not going to argue that he was a failure by any means. My comment was more about the irony that the very things many people hated about Bush (his aversion to compromise, his pushing a controversial agenda, the uber-powerful executive push the limits of constitutionally-delineated powers, leading countries into wars that the nation wasn’t fully behind because they felt it was morally correct) applied equally, if not more so, to FDR. They are VERY similar people historically.
I find it humorous that people are so blinded by their partisan hatred for one or the other that they cannot see the similarities between the men.
If I were a history PhD, this would be a great thesis.
Go Rice Owls!
FDR can't be included as one of the top 10.
He resisted the call to openly defend our allies in WWII, until after we attacked. He ushered in Social Security, which has been an absolute failure. And he threatened the pack the federal judiciary with liberal/progressive judges and justices, if the Supreme Court didn’t bow to his demands, and to declare his policies constitutional. He single handedly introduced introduced Socialism into the American Government.
"Thats all we got? One goddamned hit?" - Harry Doyle
"You cant say god damn on the radio."- Colorman
"Ehhh, who cares...nobody's listening!"- Harry Doyle
Sigh...
so much wrong with this post. I’m not going to get into a 10 page debate about FDR though. It’s obvious we have very different views on politics. I’ll leave it at that.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
whats disagreeable/wrong with it?
he did resist the urge to enter WW 2
he did bring in SS
he did threaten to pack the judiciary
i mean, maybe he didnt sangle handedly introduce socialism into american govt, but he did include it in his version of the govt/policies
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 15, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Of course he resisted...
the urge to enter WWII. So did Wilson with WWI. War is always the last option. Especially one of that magnitude. I don’t see that as a flaw.
The path SS has taken is far from FDR’s fault.
Every president would “pack” the judiciary if given the chance.
And the whole socialism thing I’m not even going to touch base on.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
the socialism thing
something that cant be ignored is that the depression brought USA to the brink of economic collapse of the whole free market system. it was too slanted towards a wild west free market system. 30% or more of the population were in National Socialist (Fascist) and Communist parties (pre stalin) at some in that era. What few people realize is that this countries system of finance almost completely collapsed on a scale that none of us comprehend. Its like the Reagan deficit thing, If you take it out of context with the fact that we were at a point where the cold war was pushing USSR towards complete collapse of their economic system, his economic theories and plans can be seen as complete incompetence in budgeting.
context is important
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
resisting entering WWII
That was a complicated situation, it’s not like everyone in the U.S. was urging him to get in.
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its completely ignoring context in history though
for evample, iots easy as shit to say we resisted supporting our allies early in WW2. the time was a time when we had historically been extremely isolationist. both parties hated the idea of going to war. their wasnt support of it from the people, or the congress, or the pres. it wasnt there. hell they hid what they knew about the holocaust just about the entire war for the simple fact that the american people would not have been willing to support a war to protect them, saving the jews wasnt marketable pitch to get the american people to care.
times were different. middle class americans were riding atop freight cars in droves, we were less than 20 years from WW1’s end, context is missing
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
I don't think FDR resisted entering the war at all
I think it’s pretty clear that he wanted to enter the war for a long time before the US actually did.
You’re absolutely right – the limiting factor in 1939-1941 was that the average voting American had already lived through a huge war and didn’t want to do it again, particularly considering that they had bigger worries at home.
All the US foreign policies of the time, despite an official neutrality, were designed to help the Allies and were barely concealed provocations of the Japanese and Germans. FDR knew that the US had to enter the war soon, otherwise the Germans would have defeated the Soviets and forced Britain to surrender, after which Hitler would not have been beatable. His challenge was getting the country behind him.
He did that by systematically pushing their “neutrality” to a point where the Japanese had to attack. The Germans were not happy the Japanese brought the US into the war when they did for obvious reasons.
If Pearl Harbor had waited one or two more years, the French would be speaking German now.
Go Rice Owls!
One of the reasons WW2 was so successful from the US side
1) We made other countries give us money for Cash and Carry
2) We didn’t enter Europe until the Germans were already on the wane, having been broken at El Alemein and Stalingrad.
3) It destroyed the world’s industrial capacity, making us the biggest manufacturer in the world by a large margin.
Thank God we waited to get in on WW2. It was a great move for America.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
probably the greatest move in american history arguably
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
The classic proposal
How would WWII have gone if the Japanese have not attacked us at Pearl Harbor….
Europe
would be speaking Russian, all of Africa would be British colonies, Japan would have a tidy little empire, and the US wouldn’t have become near as influential.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
I think Germany beats the Soviets heads up
Of course, it can be argued either way. But without a western front, the Germans may be able to hold off the Soviets long enough for them to develop the Bomb.
Go Rice Owls!
Also
the key is without the prospect of the US getting involved, the British give up fighting the Germans, removing the incentive of the US to keep providing arms to Stalin.
Go Rice Owls!
Except
they pretty much laughed at the tanks we sent. American Armor was some of the most inferior armer of WW2. Even Americans called them Purple Heart boxes due to all the flammable gasoline.
The Russian T-34 was one of the better tanks in WW2.
Most American History taught in High School grossly overstates our contributions. College level classes on the military history of WW2 give a much better viewpoint.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
T-34
agree. American equipment wasn’t really as good as other armies’ until the very end of the war. It was just that there was so MUCH American equipment.
America provided materiel, fresh manpower to hasten the end of the war, but Germany would have imploded sooner or later.
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Yeah, by the time
the Americans hit, there were lots of engagement where the German troops were basicly down to old men and kids. Most of the prime age troops in their 20s were already bled white in Russia.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
I don't think so
Between the German mistakes in Moscow in 41, and the Destruction of the 6th army at Stalingrad in winter ‘42-’43 the Germans were pretty much goners even before we even entered the fight in any significant way. Basicly we were diddling around on the peripheries of North Africa at the time the German Army saw its high water mark.
Even the battle of Kursk, which wiped out large amounts of German armor, happened before we landed in Europe.
It wouldn’t have been over as quick, but its pretty clear the Russians could have pushed the Germans back as far as they wanted, with our without us.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
Napoleon and Hitler...
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
No, Germany would never have outlasted the Soviets
The Soviets were willing to do anything to win, had many millions more in manpower, oil on hand, etc. Germany would have been worn down eventually anyway.
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Mmm. Can't agree.
I think it’s very unlikely the USSR, Japan, and Britain would have been able to hold any of those territories through 2009.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
Okay...
FDR
Lincoln
Washington
Jefferson
Jackson
Wilson
Teddy Roosevelt
Truman
Clinton
Eisenhower
8 through 10 could be in any order really.
And yes, I’m as far to the left as they come. However any top presidents list without FDR and Jefferson is just laughable.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Clinton...what a shock.
Had affair with 20 year old intern (a fat ass at that!!!) and then shook his finger at America denying it and then perjured himself in court.
What a sack of shit that man was.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 15, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
what about his on the job stuff. aside from personal flaws
what are your most hated clinton moments?
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
I'll meet you halfway on Jefferson,
but I can’t agree on Clinton. The policies that were started during his Presidency were not his own. They were the creation of Gingrich’s “Contract with America”. Gingrich and the Congressional Republicans forced those policies on Clinton after they won the House and Senate Majority in ’94, and Clinton was forced to go alonmg with them, and their veto proof majority.
"Thats all we got? One goddamned hit?" - Harry Doyle
"You cant say god damn on the radio."- Colorman
"Ehhh, who cares...nobody's listening!"- Harry Doyle
I like that you include TR and Ike
with the obvious Washington…
unbiased views into these “lists” are appreciated
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 15, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure...
well then how ’bout your “unbiased” list Walter?
Let me guess, it starts with GWB, Reagan, and TR?
Pretty sure every list on any topic like this will be biased.
Obvioiusly I’m not a huge fan of TR. However I’m not going to deny the impact he had either.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
man it's tough
like comparing top athletes of all times – the older ones, Babe, Cobb, etc. – how would they hold up vs. today’s athletes, with today’s training, etc.?
I’d say a rough top 10 would definitely include Washington, Teddy Roosevelt, Lincoln, Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, Reagan, Eisenhower…and I’d give strong consideration to Truman, Wilson, FDR, with my personal list including W. over one of those
I tend to give a lot of credit towards dealing with times of crisis
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 15, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions
ive read a lot about Jackson and while a strong individualist
i dont think his idea of what the role of president was coincides with what the founding fathers had in mind for the role. he is one of the very first, "i dont give a rats ass what that piece of paper says, im POTUS and its my country and we’re fucking doing it.
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
The "times of crisis"...
argument I completely agree with. It’s why I have FDR, Lincoln, and Washington at the top. Hard to get more turbulent in US history than what those 3 men had to deal with.
It’s obviously a tough thing to do. I just can’t see how anyone would have Reagan or W up at the top of the list. Just like I’m sure you can’t see how I’d have Clinton up there.
For the record, I did have a tough time leaving Polk off the list as well. Went with Clinton, Ike, and Truman, but as Snark said above I think he was a very underrated president.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Clinton (and im a liberal)
there are a few things that he did that fucking drive me nuts and make me wanna think he was one of my least favorite presidents.
1) Selling Nukes to Paki
2) Favored Nation Trading Status with China
those 2 things could come out to be more important to this country’s history than 9/11
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
I actually think
Old George – the first President Bush – is going to be remembered very well. Obviously not top 5, and you have to question anyone who can’t get re-elected, but I think he’s probably has an argument for best President of the end of the 20th century.
Go Rice Owls!
Not a lot of competition for that title, in my opinion.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
I definitely think
he is in the mix.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
Yep, and reviled by his own party
for doing what he thought was right instead of following party orthodoxy.
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Holy crap?!
A politician supporting his consituents instead of his party?
Can’t have him in government. That goes against ALL the rules.
2010 Draft Order at the Breakfrom Andy Seiler's MLB Draft Blog
1. Washington Nationals (26-61)
2. Cleveland Indians (35-54)
3. San Diego Padres (36-52)
4. Kansas City (37-51)
5. Arizona Diamondbacks (38-51)
6. Oakland Athletics (37-49)
7. Pittsburgh Pirates (38-50)
8. Baltimore Orioles (40-48)
9. Cincinnati Reds (42-45)
10. New York Mets (42-45)
11. Atlanta Braves (43-45)
12. Toronto Blue Jays (44-46)
13. Houston Astros (44-44)
14. Chicago Cubs (43-43)
15. Minnesota Twins (45-44)
16. Florida Marlins (46-44)
17. Chicago White Sox (45-43)
18. Milwaukee Brewers (45-43)
19. Seattle Mariners (46-42)
20. Colorado Rockies (47-41)
21. St. Louis Cardinals (49-42)
22. Tampa Bay Rays (48-41)
23. Detroit Tigers (48-39)
24. Texas Rangers (48-39)
25. San Francisco Giants (49-39)
26. Philadelphia Phillies (48-38)
27. Los Angeles Angels (49-37)
28. New York Yankees (51-37)
29. Boston Red Sox (54-34)
30. Los Angeles Dodgers (56-32)
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
Looks like the Natinals are taking lessons from the Rays.
"Thats all we got? One goddamned hit?" - Harry Doyle
"You cant say god damn on the radio."- Colorman
"Ehhh, who cares...nobody's listening!"- Harry Doyle
Except
Bryce Harper + Stephen Strassburg >>>>> anyone the Rays ever picked first. Regardless of how good some of those guys turn out to be.
Go Rice Owls!
You think that team's not tanking it in the 2nd half?
Ha ha.
"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem
by inactive lsb user on Jul 15, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
What a strange AM thread
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
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-The Outlaw
slowest sports day of the year - what do you expect
More posts arguing about why it is dumb for us to trade Smoak, Elvis, and Feliz for Halladay?
Go Rice Owls!
Smoak/Elvis: NO
But Feliz, I could bear to part with him if it gets Halladay. Of course it may take getting 2 or 3 current players to defer some payroll to get the deal done.
"Thats all we got? One goddamned hit?" - Harry Doyle
"You cant say god damn on the radio."- Colorman
"Ehhh, who cares...nobody's listening!"- Harry Doyle
EGrant
was on Norm this morning and made it sound like a done deal that Feliz is going to be a closer in The Show.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 15, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Feliz as closer
Last night I was watching Mariano pitching. I love watching Mariano – he’s the greatest ever at what he does. There aren’t many opportunities to watch someone absolutely dominant at what he does. His value in wins added can be debated. But I’d argue that Mariano Rivera is unique among current players (possible exception of Pujols) in that he’s the greatest at what he does. That cutter is coming, and left handed batters know it, and they swing at it anyway, and they miss it.
Watching that makes me think Feliz has the potential that he could be absolutely dominant as a closer. Probably not Rivera, but potentially as dominant as any other guy in the league. And I’ll take that. For a closer all the worries about secondary stuff, etc begin to go away when you can be that dominant with one pitch.
Go Rice Owls!
JB
I worry about his control.
I saw him in spring training and he was amazing. I’ve said it before but it was the hardest I’ve ever seen anybody throw a baseball and I saw Nolan Ryan in the mid 70’s.
The problem was two-fold. He didn’t throw enough strikes and the only pitch close to the strike-zone was his fastball so he had to dial it down and he got rocked.
If he can consistently bring that heater in for strikes…my gawd.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 15, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
A great closer makes games a lot more enjoyable
When CoCo was dialed in it was beautiful. If Neftali can do that I’ll take it.
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
I'm not saying it's good or bad either way.
Making Feliz a starter when he doesn’t have the tool box to be successful at it would be foolish regardless if you gave up a Hall of Famer in his prime to get him.
If he’s an elite closer, there’s nothing wrong with that.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
Did anyone else get to hear EG this morning?
Was it EG’s opinion that Feliz would end up as a closer? Is he relaying the feelings of someone in the organization?
Feliz is probably a #3 SP with the stuff he has right now. That, in my opinion, is more valuable then a dominant closer.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
EGrant
said it with complete conviction, RangerMad.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 15, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
So EG feels he ends up as a closer.
And that does carry so weight. But I do think the Rangers give him every opportunity to start next spring. Even to the point where he goes back to AAA for a month or so.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
EG said it with the conviction
that made me think it came directly from Donuts.
He mentioned his overpowering fastball but then said he hasn’t been able to do much his other pitches.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
good thing is
that we all wil get to see Feliz pitch in the MLs in the next few weeks. So we all will be able to judge for ourselves whether or not secondary his pitches are good enough for him to be a SP.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
I would like to hear...
about this as well. Not able to hear DFW radio here and I don’t trust anything Josie Donuts has to say. Anyone else?
I really don’t want Feliz to be seen as a closer and not get a chance to be a starter.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
I'd like a second opinion as well.
No offense, Josey, but I don’t really believe anything you say because you are so wrong so often.
EG reads LSB
and maybe he’ll chime in with an interpretation.
I was in the car and not taking notes but that was my impression.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
x
I will have to check to see if that segment makes it on Norm’s Podcast today.
by GregoryM on Jul 15, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
This is a great quote from Michael Young on ESPN
“People are starting to get the itch again,” said Rangers third baseman Michael Young. “Texas is a sports-crazy place, and in the summertime it’s just us. [Terrell Owens] is gone now, so Cowboys training camp shouldn’t be as big a story this year.”
what a realist. Love ’em.
sorry Mike
Cowboys training camp will still trump the Rangers. T.O. might be gone but that just means the reporters are going to have to do a little more work. It shouldn’ tbe too hard since every little hang nail, candy bar wrapper and chili belch gets blown way out of proportion.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
Yep
It’s like I said about 15 years ago- updating now for current players- that if the Rangers won the World Series, and Tony Romo took a dump, the local media would spend a minute on the Rangers, and the next 20 analyzing Romo’s choice of toilet paper.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
Tom Schiefer running for Texas Governor
First George W. Bush now Tom Schiefer can we hold out hope for a Tom Hicks run?
by GregoryM on Jul 15, 2009 2:57 PM CDT reply actions
god damn it, why cant we get solid competent against the same old status quo in this state
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
So
Schieffer, Perry, and Hutchison? That’ll be fun when the mud gets flinging.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
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