Main done for 2009?
by RangerMad on Jul 15, 2009 11:02 AM CDT
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per MJH over at InsideConer...
Main is done for the year. He has been sent home to Florida and won’t be called back to Surprise until August. There’s no reason that a healthy Michael Main can’t be at the top of this list a year from now.
He was originally diagnosed to have mono. Does anyone know what he is/was finally diagnosed to have? Good question for JD tomorrow at Pennant Race Pep Rally at Pappasitos.
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I wonder if the spleen was close to bursting
or if it actually burst…?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 15, 2009 11:06 AM CDT reply actions
Hopefully it didn't actually burst.
Check out this answer on Yahoo! about mono, spleens, and Type A personalities.
Your spleen gets swollen from mono, but it won’t generally burst from it. However, doing anything that might be active (sports, running up or down stairs, etc.) could put you into a position to have a tumble. With a swollen spleen, a rupture is more likely if you hit that area.
A ruptured spleen is painful, as is the surgery needed when it happens. It is recommended that you do what you can to get rest.
Mono is also a sign of “Type A” personality, which is the outgoing and competitive kind. It’s a sign of exhaustion, and though they call it the “kissing disease” (as you can get it from contact with someone who has it), the disease itself is typically the result of weeks of exhaustion.
The swelling of your spleen is your body’s way of fighting the disease, as it becomes a kind of battleground for your immune system. So long as you get the rest you need in order to recover, you should have no problems with it whatsoever.
Question for you fellas who get to interact and physically watch Rangers’ prospects. Is Main a Type A?
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
Meh.
So what if he is/isn’t? What if he went on a date with a Type A personality? What if he’s a Type A personality that doesn’t have mono?
I guess my point is, moving forward, him being a Type A personality has little relevance to his diagnosis/treatment, even if it does end up being mono. Maybe if you were practicing medicine out in the sticks, but he’s probably had 50 tests run on him/his blood by now.
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 15, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
I mostly just thought it was interesting in that I had never heard of anyone linking Type A to
risk for exhaustion to risk for mono. I have no idea where that response got its information. I’m not really trying to diagnose anything here, just curious about it all.
It’s really not important to the diagnosis of his illness, but I think it might be a lesson learned for him in that if he is Type A maybe this has given him a clear sense of the importance of not overworking, getting enough rest, etc.
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
If he is a Type A personality...
Can we get compensatory picks for him if he doesn’t work out?
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by RangerFloppy on Jul 15, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
yea my brother had mono at end of baseball this year
was out ~2 weeks, no baseball activity b/c of enlarged spleen (and liver?) that could rupture if hit wrong
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 15, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Michael Main: 2009's Wilmer Font?
"You know, I’m playing entirely too much." - Andruw Jones
"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels
Heh...
I like it.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jul 15, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
He was diagnosed with
Epic Failure.
Take him off the prospect list. He has gone the way of Colt Griffin.
colt griffin
balme that on the royals.
i mean, who, SERIOUSLY< gives a kid his bonus, then has no contact with him the rest of the sumer until ST. the kid didnt pick up a ball from the end of baseball season to the start oF ST after he signed.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 15, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Purely speculation on my part
But this mysterious illness talk reminds me of Rocco Baldelli’s issues.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
also reminds me a little of Juan Dominguez
I wonder if he encountered his first failure as a baseball player and a person, and sunk into depression.
Promote Nam!
yeah pure speculation
but as slc says below, what else are we supposed to do in the absence of info about a season ending undiagnosed “mystery illness,” that follows a weeks long run of terrible performance from a previously ace prospect? We speculate. Depression and anxiety are very common afflictions.
Promote Nam!
I am 100% positive this has nothing to do with depression.
And yes, it’s unfair and not exactly reasonable to automaticlally compare him mentally to Juan Dominguez because he’s out for the year with a sickness that the doctors can’t place their finger on.
Umm, anyone heard of HIPAA???
The club can’t release what’s wrong with him without his permission.
So, undisclosed <> undiagnosed
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Which is some times worse because
it leads to wild ass speculation.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
Unfortunately yes
"andruw jones hits 3 HRS at LA of Anaheim last nite after hitting zero at LA of LA as Dodger in all of '08. thats nuts." SI_JonHeyman
Not true
They can, per permission of patient or guardian…
Example: Michael Jackson… Family had to give consent for MJ’s nurse to go do interview about his drug use…
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by FormerLSBUser on Jul 15, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Umm, what part of "Without his permission" did you miss??
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
What happened to leave the kid alone...
and talk about someone else?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Because he's a prospect that has been endlessly praised by
Newberg and his kind and is being sent home for mysterious reasons.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
Heh
"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem
by inactive lsb user on Jul 15, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Umm, I believe I was tracking that way...
Making the point that the absence of any details was meaningless..
As in, "nothing to see here… move along’
But, point taken…
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Sorry
got the work brain, kills me
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by FormerLSBUser on Jul 15, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I cannot imagine
why you think there is any basis for comparison there.
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it's not a good comparison
except for the depression part. Obviously two very different kids. But it’s very common for high performers to experience depression when encountering their first failure. And the symptoms of depression are similar to mono … fatigue, low energy.
Perhaps Greinke is a better comparison. Though for him it was social anxiety not depression per se. But it did cost him a season.
We can’t underestimate the pressure these kids are under.
Promote Nam!
Ok, got ya
Whatever it is I hope we hear how good he feels in August.
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maybe?
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 15, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
oh!
my duodenom is acting up again…
"The mystery of the beginning of all things is insoluble by us; and I for one must be content to remain an agnostic" - Charles Darwin, you know who he is...
Strange. I hope it didn't progress to anything life threatening.
That seems like a time line consistent with a diagnosis of mono. I’m guessing they went through their tests, found nothing else they could pin it on, and moved forward with treatment for mono.
Get well Main!
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
A quote from Main:
This time, Main said he was feeling fine and starting to get the hang of pitching in the hitting-heavy California League. After a rocky start, Main had been pitching well, but his record stood at 4-6 with a 7.33 ERA when he got sick.
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“It’s just a matter of making adjustments; you’ve got a lot of veteran hitters in that league and they’ll hit your mistakes,” Main said. “It’s frustrating because I really felt I was doing better lately.”
It doesn’t sound to me like Main was feeling sick until perhaps his last days in uniform – he got killed in his last start, for example. So many people, including MJH, are discouting Main’s WHOLE 2009 performance due to the illness – which sounds like it only really effected his last start. I would like to hear confirmation that Main’s illness had anything to do with his struggles for the majority of the season.
Well
Parks mentioned mechanical issues.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jul 15, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Parks:
His curveball, a pitch that has flashed plus potential and will eventually grade out that high, has stumbled this season, along with everything else in Main’s arsenal.
And then it sounds like he assumes when healthy again Main will regain his stuff. Yet my quote claims Main felt fine until the last days. His stuff was off [per Parks] while he felt fine and assuming it will return when he is cured [fingers-crossed] seems to be the CW, and seems to be shaky ground to stand on, IMO. I would love to hear it confirmed that Main’s illness effected the vast majority of his performance this season. Doesn’t sound like Main believes that.
I assume
that he was sick and weakened a bit before he realized it or gave attribution to it. He was definitely struggling and trying to adjust and get his pitches down, so he’ll still need to do that when he’s healthy. But I don’t see any reason he can’t make that adjustment.
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I'm giving him the benefit of doubt
These kids don’t always go running off to tell someone that they aren’t feeling their best, especially guys like Main who were raised to be tough, shut your mouth, and compete.
Before the diagnosis of mono came out, I assumed it was primarily mechanical.
He’s a very self-aware guy, according to reports on how he suggests innovative things to his coaches that he can try in his pitching motion. I figured either he had been fiddlin’ too much and lost some feel or was in the process of fiddlin’ some more to better compete. If other top prospects are a guide, I was hoping to see steady progress show up in his peripheral around 50 IP. He’s stalled at 54 IP now.
I think fatigue could from mono (or anything) could play a role with consistency, but I’m not sure that it would effect the overall structure of his mechanics. Anything that screws with his consistency, though, makes it difficult to read his ability to adjust at higher levels, which adds more uncertainty when analyzing him for our highly important prospect lists.
With the number of prospects the Rangers have, I hope Main is able to find some time on the mound later this summer.
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
I "assume" and "give benefit of doubt"
to the possibility that Main was “feeling fine” and his struggles were possibly “primarily mechanical.”
That's a great point.
I’m sure you’re right.
I’m basing my assumption about this year on the fact that everyone — and by everyone, I mean people who actually saw him and coached him — talked about how he had put it all together last fall and was dealing major league quality stuff, a more plausible explanation for his struggles this year would be health. But I’m sure I’m wrong and he was struggling because he suddenly forgot how to pitch.
Well
Putting aside your destructive instinct to personally attack and stifle debate … I’ll just add …
On April 14th Trip Somers wrote in his eval of Michael Main …
Main’s arm doesn’t appear to be doing a whole lot of work. That’s usually a good thing, but Main’s arm does all of its work in a shorter period of time than just about every other pitcher on the planet because of his extremely late hand-break and ball pick-up. This leaves less room for error and can lead to timing issues that adversely affect command and velocity when the timing is just slightly off.
On May 14th Chris Hadorn wrote about the May 12 BAK Main game he attended …
First off, what has happened to his command? After walking only 13 batters in 45 innings at Clinton last year, Main entered the game having already issued 16 free passes in 24 2/3 innings. In addition, there were reports that his fastball velocity had waned into the high-80s to low-90s after he briefly hit low-to-mid 90s during the instructional league last fall. There were also rumblings that his curveball, his main out pitch, has lost some of its bite.
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Throughout the start, the 2007 first rounder showed glimpses of his frontline starter talent, but he admitted afterwards that he couldn’t find a rhythm. Main also acknowledged his fastball command was off, and that he’s had trouble finding consistency with his curveball.
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"That (curveball) is something we (pitching coach David Chavarria) have been working on," said Main. "Early on in the game, it was good and then I kind of lost it there for a couple of innings. It helped me get out of that jam in the fifth, it kind of came back to me. It’s just the matter of getting out there and throwing it and just becoming more and more consistent with it."
Hadorn then cornered the BAK pitching coach for his thoughts …
Chavarria says Main’s command issues can be attributed to flaws in his mechanics and delivery.
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"Right now, he’s working on getting more extension out front on his release point," says Chavarria. "Getting down the slope of the mound a little bit and on-line. He’s always had the arm and the man upstairs I guess kind of blessed him a little bit with one of those arms. And when you have one of those arms, you can get away with a lot of stuff, delivery wise, et cetera, at the lower levels and even in high school. At some point, it catches up.
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“Right now, he’s in that mix and he’s working extremely hard at it. We have made some slight changes. We’ve moved him over to the third base side of the rubber. He’s felling really comfortable over there. Right now, he’s in a good place and I think he’s about to turn the corner and get things going. I am looking forward to seeing him pitch."
This isn’t about who is right or wrong in the end, it’s about the withering derision and scorn doled out by those in the “assume” and “benefit of doubt” camp to those who are worried that, like other high-pick pitchers in the system [Beavan, Kiker, Ramirez] whose stuff has suffered as their mechanical issues are addressed, Michael Main’s return to heady prospect status won’t simply hinge on the effectiveness of a Dr.’s prescription, but on overcoming “primarily mechanical” issues we, Dave Chavarria, Trip Somers and apparently Michael Main all recognize and target for solutions.
good grief
I don’t doubt the mechanical issues. You could add in my interview with Danny Clark where he said some of the same things about Main. I know his mechanics were off. I saw him in Surprise this spring and he wasn’t really finishing off his pitches.
The question is why did he lose his mechanics?
What caused this kid — who was lights out in October, prompting his own pitching coordinator to gush about how he had perfected his mechanics to the point that he was dealing some of the highest quality stuff he’d ever seen from a kid that age — to suddenly begin to struggle with his mechanics?
Isn’t it possible that his “mechanical issues” arose as a result of feeling weak? In other words, it’s not one or the other. I think one probably caused the other.
Sure, it's possible
Isn’t it possible that his "mechanical issues" arose as a result of feeling weak? In other words, it’s not one or the other. I think one probably caused the other.
That’s why shroomer said:
I would like to hear confirmation that Main’s illness had anything to do with his struggles for the majority of the season.
He’s not ignoring that opinion. He’s asking for confirmation on YOUR OPINION that the mechanical issues are due to his illness.
It really doesn’t do to poo-poo potential reader’s feedback, especially those as informed and intelligent as shroomer’s is about minor league players. It just make you seem like yet another LSB poster who can’t be wrong about anything. We can read it here, why should we go elsewhere to read the same thing?
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by Requiem on Jul 15, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is why you annoy people.
"Was this really necsarry?" - cowpoke/hurler hurley
Not the only reason
Don’t sell my ability to annoy people short. I know a lot of ways to get the job done.
Lots of speculation
and lots of knee-jerking going on in this thread.
I agree
Main was obviously infected by aliens who were Angels fans.
by Michael Cave on Jul 15, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Concur...
but what else is there to do ‘til people find out exactly what it is that’s going on with him and why he struggled so much and is now out?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Move on to talking about someone else and leave the kid alone??
Just a thought…
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
What kind of a prospect is zombie Main?
I heard he is slow to the plate
Yep
My sister tangled with mono a couple of years ago (she was a soph in high school) and was hospitalized a couple of times because they were concerned about her spleen. I’m happy to give Main the benefit of the doubt on his whole season because mono is just a mess to deal with. I would think that mono could create mechanical problems for a guy: if he’s always fatigued and not feeling well, why wouldn’t he struggle with focus on his mechanics, repeating his delivery, etc.? Speaking from my sister’s experience, mono can screw up everything you try to do.
"andruw jones hits 3 HRS at LA of Anaheim last nite after hitting zero at LA of LA as Dodger in all of '08. thats nuts." SI_JonHeyman
by WestTxAg06 on Jul 15, 2009 11:59 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I think that's a good way to put it.
I think he would have had struggles and a major adjustment period this year even if completely healthy. But the illness just exacerbated it, and from his comments above that shroomer posted, nipped his progress in the bud right when he felt like he was getting a handle on it.
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I had it for eight months once
It can take your legs out from under you. The reason I had it son long, and I’m guessing it’s the same with Main, is because I was too stubborn/stupid to stop trying to go back to work when I started to feel a little better. The Rangers are doing the right thing, he’ll be OK.
That's why they call them business sox
are you sure you werent just really bored?
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
that's how I was
for a month or so…so sluggish. but wouldn’t give in.
finally, I was pretty much in a coma and taken to the emergency room…they said the spleen was about to explode
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 15, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep. I was undiagnosed for several months.
I think it is still hard to diagnose/confirm mono. I ended up being in the hosp for about three weeks, and confined to indoors for about 3 months. My liver and spleen were both effed by this time, so I even had a special diet, and of course no drinking booze.
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Yes we can! November 04, 2008
I feel dumb
I never reallized Mono could be so overwhelmingly debilitating.
Had no idea.
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Jul 15, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it varies person to person
and of course those that are more active (I was in the Air Force at the time, playing rugby, boxing, etc.) are going to take more of a beating. Plus I was taking Ripped Fuel and working out extra hard. NOT a good combination
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 15, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Those of us who were pretty much just sitting on our asses anyway
won’t notice much difference. I may have had mono in college, hard to tell when you’re always hungover. Am I sick, or do I just feel like shit because I played quarters and 3-man until 4 a.m.?
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Ha
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Jul 15, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions
this is true
I always feel like I have mono these days…
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 15, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I had it when I was 14 or so
I lost 6 months of any activity due to it. It was awful. It actually played a part in me having to quit playing baseball and take up golf instead.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 15, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I had to quit baseball...
around that age as well. Played soccer instead.
Although sucking is what played the biggest part in that.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
I suspect that's the truth for many of us here
I was always too slow…which I didn’t get. If I was any good at all, I suppose they wouldn’t give a shit if I was slow at all.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 15, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions
well yeah that too
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 16, 2009 7:48 AM CDT up reply actions
I quit around that time too
Had to sit out an entire season because of a poorly timed fracture, then next season all my friends had stopped playing and the new coaches took things too seriously and it wasn’t fun anymore.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Yeah
My sister was twirling, doing a lot of FFA stuff and just generally running around like an extremely busy small town high school kid. She didn’t slow down because she didn’t have time, and by the time that she did, she was completely run down.
"andruw jones hits 3 HRS at LA of Anaheim last nite after hitting zero at LA of LA as Dodger in all of '08. thats nuts." SI_JonHeyman
Well at least I admitted it was purely speculation.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 15, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
even more so
elsewhere…they’ve dropped him from a top 5 prospect to probably outside the top 15 because of this year. not that it’s undeserved, especially with Purke and Scheppers’ additions.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 15, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
welcome to the internet
it’s a magical place where everyone knows everything, especially if they can’t(or won’t) be proven wrong…
Hate to hear that
He was injured last year too. You just hope that this doesn’t become a running theme with a guy this talented. Hopefully he will get better and be ready to go at 100% next spring. He’s just 21, so we still is very young and has plenty of time to get it together.
"Thank God for Feldman." - Ron Washington to Eric Nadel, August 2008
Crap
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
by Jayslick on Jul 15, 2009 1:55 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Is this your homework Larry?
You’re killing your father Larry!
I have no objection to man walking on the moon.
What movie? Can't remember
Or was that my friend’s neighbor in Beverly Hills?
by Mark from OC on Jul 15, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Big Lebowski, right?
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"-Wayne Gretzky"-Michael Scott
by ReallyCreativeScreenName on Jul 15, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Could be, thanks
I haven’t seen that movie in many years. Funny though, now all my neighbors are hooked on White Russians since I made them for the Super Bowl party.
by Mark from OC on Jul 15, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, it's Lebowski.
They find Larry Sellers’ homework in the back of the car and figure he had stolen the briefcase full of money, and upon finding a new Corvette in front of his house, they figured he spent “thirty, fourty grand tops” on it.
had to Rec it
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 15, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Good stuff on Mike's top 10 prospects
A few thoughts:
I’ve been a lot more down on Kiker than perhaps I should have been. I didn’t realize he had a .219 BAA this year. If he can harness that inside control in the future, those crazy HBP numbers might work in his favor. Willingness to go inside (and occasional wildness while doing so) can create something akin to the effect Nolan had on hitters back in the day. For example, Ryne Sandberg said he would stand in the very back corner of the box and just hope to get out of the at-bat alive.
Martin at #1 is a gutsy move considering Smoak and Feliz are closer to the majors, but I don’t think it’s an indefensible one. The tools and makeup on that kid are so exciting I think they can arguably outweigh the proximity to some extent.
I’ve had a long-standing rule against getting excited about Wilmer Font, but I’m going to break it before too long, I’m afraid.
For those that know more than I do: does Wilmer have the highest ceiling of all our top pitching prospects?
"andruw jones hits 3 HRS at LA of Anaheim last nite after hitting zero at LA of LA as Dodger in all of '08. thats nuts." SI_JonHeyman
It hurts me to say this, but i would think Perez has a higher ceiling than Wilmer
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Jul 15, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Feliz has the highest ceiling
of all the pitchers, but I think Martin is close and more likely to reach his if he avoids the young pitcher attrition problems. Font is 3rd, but that is nothing to be ashamed of in that company.
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Yeah, we're talking ace potential with all of them, so 1-2-3 is like 1a, 1b, 1c
The way I see it shaking out in my own ill-informed, quick and dirty comp among the three, someone please correct me if I’m wrong:
Feliz
Good: throws 100, ridiculous pure heat, loose easy mechanics
Weak: secondary stuff (both development and tipping hitters off with changing arm slots)
Perez
Good: great pure stuff, great makeup, great polish for a kid his age
Weak: doesn’t throw 100 like the other two, what is there?
Font
Good: “howitzer arm” at MJH said, near triple digits at age 18, ideal power pitcher frame
Weak: command, secondaries lacking
"andruw jones hits 3 HRS at LA of Anaheim last nite after hitting zero at LA of LA as Dodger in all of '08. thats nuts." SI_JonHeyman
Is Feliz still tipping?
I thought he had made great strides in that area, and it was more a matter of command now.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Yeah, I seem to recall hearing he's gotten a lot better at that but still lapsed from time to time
"andruw jones hits 3 HRS at LA of Anaheim last nite after hitting zero at LA of LA as Dodger in all of '08. thats nuts." SI_JonHeyman
OT: Speaking of mono...
Sonnanstine dealing with mono: Tampa Bay SP Andy Sonnanstine, who has made two strong starts for Triple-A Durham since being sent down and losing his spot in the Rays’ rotation, was placed on the 7-day DL on Saturday with mononucleosis.
Apparently reading more into Sonny’s case (he’s long been a personal fave of mine) there are different types of mono and Sonnanstine has the less severe kind, the kind that mixes some low-grade symptoms similar to what we generally think of as being “mono” with flu-like sickness.
I didn’t know there were different types.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
maybe they should change the name to poly
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Jul 15, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
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