Saturday a.m. Rangers things
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 18, 2009 10:00 AM CDT
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At least the Angels lost...
Evan Grant says that Vicente Padilla got squeezed by the home plate umpire last night, and in particular, had strike three to Jason Kubel called a ball before leaving a pitch up in the zone that Kubel hammered for the three-run homer than won the game for the Twins.
Anthony Andro says that Josh Hamilton was the only offense last night.
Matt Harrison is going to head out on a rehab assignment next week, assuming his bullpen session tomorrow goes well. Meanwhile, the Rangers are going to drop a reliever after this series with Minnesota, potentially in favor of Esteban German, whose addition would require a 40 man roster move.
Jennifer Floyd Engel says the Rangers need Hamilton and Ian Kinsler to hit if they want to stay in the race.
And the Rangers have the biggest percentage increase in their TV ratings of any of the 30 major league clubs this year. Amazing what winning some games will do...
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So...
if the Rangers bring up German the only guy I could see them dropping off the 40 is Bannister, no?
Will they send down Mathis? Or could they cut ties with Nippert?
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by slc ranger on Jul 18, 2009 10:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why not drop Arias
for German? Arias is out of options next year and if he is not good enough for your team in this situation then he won’t make your team out of ST next year.
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by RangerMad on Jul 18, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boy, EG, AA and JFE are really bringing the HSO's this morning.
Anyway, re: German… between him and Feliz it looks like we’re gonna need two 40 spots pretty soon… Guardado and who else? Bannister? Asian Kid (again)? DFA Dusty Tits (again)?
I’d say Willie Eyre, but he apparently has peephole footage of Wash and JD or something.
"You know, I’m playing entirely too much." - Andruw Jones
"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels
by lonestarJon on Jul 18, 2009 10:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Guardado isn't going anywhere
Mendoza probably loses a spot, and Nippert is probably gone at some point.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 18, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, forgot about 'Dozer.
And why wouldn’t Guardado go anywhere? It seems like a no brainer, kill the 25 and 40 spot with one stone.
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"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels
by lonestarJon on Jul 18, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm thinking about when Feliz comes up re: Eddie BTW.
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"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels
by lonestarJon on Jul 18, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leaves then pen with 1 lefty
Who happens to be the setup man / closer
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by rentz on Jul 18, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guardado has gotten killed by lefties this year.
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"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels
by lonestarJon on Jul 18, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because the Rangers aren't going to do that
They aren’t going to go with one lefty in the pen.
And they like Guardado.
And he’s pitched well this year.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 18, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Setting aside what should or shouldn't be done
This is a team that is in a pennant race.
Guardado is one of the leaders in the bullpen, a very well respected guy who also has some playoff experience and who has pitched well this year.
Why would you think that, given all that, the Rangers would consider cutting him loose instead of, say, Mathis or Nippert?
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 18, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because I think he's a shitty pitcher who can't be relied upon in a pennant race.
Not that Nippert and Mathis are any better, really, but they’re long men. Eddie is a 50 year old LOOGY who can’t get lefties out. Once we call up Feliz to be an all-purpose bullpen flamethrower, I don’t see that we have much use for Eddie.
"You know, I’m playing entirely too much." - Andruw Jones
"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels
by lonestarJon on Jul 18, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not asking what you think
I’m asking you why the Rangers would do that.
Since his ugly 4 run outing in mid-April, he’s had a 2.66 ERA.
They don’t think he’s a shitty pitcher. And even if they did, I don’t think they believe that the marginal upgrade between him and, say, Mathis or Nippert would justify the political/clubhouse/whatever impact it would have on the players to cut him loose.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 18, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I know that's therr thought process
Mine is, I don’t see how they’ve arrived at such a thought process.
It just seems like a slam dunk no-brainer to me, kinda like trading Gagne just in the nick of time was. Fine, he’s supposedly a great clubhouse guy, and great, he’s somehow managed to prevent runs from scoring since April. But I still would not want Eddie on the mound in any key situation for this team down the road. Cut him before he does implode again, and ask him if he’s ever considered a coaching job.
But keeping a guy around exclusively for his “intangibles” when you have better options talent and stuff-wise… that’s something I just don’t comprehend. If we’re going to sacrifcie player development to win this year, I don’t see why we’d be so guarded about the clubhouse.
"You know, I’m playing entirely too much." - Andruw Jones
"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels
by lonestarJon on Jul 18, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They aren't keeping him around just for his intangibles..
….when they feel they have better options available, though.
And saying that there are guys with better talent and stuff misses the point…that’s true, but talent and stuff doesn’t always get guys out.
They aren’t going to go forward with C.J. as the only lefty in the pen, and I believe the organization thinks that they are better off with Guardado in the pen going forward then with A.J. Murray or Doug Mathis or whomever you’d keep in his place.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 18, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I basically think that's silly.
"You know, I’m playing entirely too much." - Andruw Jones
"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels
by lonestarJon on Jul 18, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think whats silly
is to kick Guardado to the curb, just to get some disposable guy like Mathis or Nippert in.
It would be one thing if we were adding a piece we thought would be a solid part of the team for years to come.
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by DJCahill on Jul 18, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying kick him to the curb for Mathis or something
But for Feliz, once the time comes.
"You know, I’m playing entirely too much." - Andruw Jones
"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels
by lonestarJon on Jul 18, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's say Feliz gets promoted on Monday
You’d advocate dropping Guardado, rather than Mathis or Nippert, to make room for him?
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 18, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much, because Mathis has to go down to make room for German
And we still need a long man.
"You know, I’m playing entirely too much." - Andruw Jones
"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels
by lonestarJon on Jul 18, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Long man
Jennings should be able to fill that role.
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by rentz on Jul 18, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
Or Grilli.
With Guardado, Wilson, O’Day, and Feliz presumably getting the bulk of the middle and setup work, you aren’t going to have a ton of innings for Grilli and Jennings otherwise.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 18, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, I guess.
Forgot about Grilli. I guess he’d be your longman, because Jennings has only hit the 3 inning mark three times this season.
"You know, I’m playing entirely too much." - Andruw Jones
"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels
by lonestarJon on Jul 18, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Backwards you have it
if they were not worried about winning, they would concern themselves with acquiring more talent, and let “the clubhouse” work itself out.
Since they are currently in it, though, “the clubhouse”(chemistry, mental state, etc) takes on a much greater importance.
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by randyd on Jul 18, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very true.
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by Rodney on Jul 18, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would substitute the word "joker" for "leader"
I heard that he and Frankie were wrestling naked in the showers over a joke gone too far before the ASB
we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"
by eclou on Jul 18, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you have to put that image in my head?
I never in my life want to hear about Guardado and Frankie wrestling in a shower naked again.
by TRanger on Jul 18, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I imagine
Guardado will stay until at least one of Holland/Harrison is in the pen.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 18, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see...
the Rangers cutting Guardado at all now. He seems to have turned it around a little and he’s still seen as a leader. I’m not a big fan of his, but I think he’s there to stay.
I forgot about Mendoza. I suppose it could be him, Nippert, or Bannister that is next to go off the 40.
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by slc ranger on Jul 18, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is a good reason
to forget about Mendoza.
However, Bannister would be the guy I kicked to the curb.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 18, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, probably so.
"You know, I’m playing entirely too much." - Andruw Jones
"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels
by lonestarJon on Jul 18, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mendoza
I think someone probably takes a flyer and claims him.
My only question has always been, what is it this team sees in eyre?
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by rentz on Jul 18, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From Jason Cole:
Willie Eyre’s changeup was absolute filth in the ninth and tenth.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Jul 18, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know who has a great change up?
Clay Buchholz. I had never seen him pitch, and the ESPN highlights that showed his changeup were eye-popping.
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by rooster on Jul 18, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
JFE is right about one thing
Kinsler needs to stop sucking so much like he has the last month and a half. Tough to see this thing going far unless both he and Hamilton are bringing the pain nightly.
We really need to see a stretch of Ranger Baseball, where the team is putting up 5+ runs every night for a few weeks.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 18, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
JFE
Wow. So insightful stuff.
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by RangerMad on Jul 18, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the little ball of insightful
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by rentz on Jul 18, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
JFE's next column:
“In order to win games, The Rangers must score more runs than their opponents.”
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
by Bob Loblaw on Jul 18, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You give her too much credit.
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by randyd on Jul 18, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just drop Arias and Nippert from the 40
and option Mathis
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by RangerMad on Jul 18, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Omar & Elvis chat
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Jul 18, 2009 10:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We need Salsa dancing lessons for MY!
petrone: Omar: What is the most important piece of advice you can offer to a young shortstop?
Omar: To know how to dance salsa. If you know how to move your feet, you can field a ground ball.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 18, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It pisses me off that everytime i watch Padilla pitch....
He gets screwed by the umps….now that thats out of the way…
For the rangers to compete the rest of the way, we better have our offense get its head out of its ass.
3 runs last night…..all 3 driven in by Hamilton….2 of which were on a homerun.
I know JD is a little hamstrung with this team right now due to money, but for it to compete in the next few years we have to get away from this all or nothing aproach. I heard a stat last night that Andruw Jones has 30 hits, and 14 of them are homeruns….that is just fucking stupid.
by death of the cool on Jul 18, 2009 12:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Now the Rangers don't have the money for Halladay
12:39pm: SI.com’s Jon Heyman tweets that the Phillies are still the favorites to land Halladay. He hears that the Angels want to keep their prospects while the Rangers don’t have the money to bring Doc aboard.
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by RangerMad on Jul 18, 2009 1:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
we don't have 5 mil?
I think I heard somewhere that is all he is owed the rest of this year. His salary next year should not come into play.
I find it hard to believe that the Rangers would turn down an ace because of 5 million dollars. Now maybe that is the excuse being used so that we can keep our prospects, or prehaps some sort of leverage to see what other teams are willing to dangle before we dangle too much talent their way.
by death of the cool on Jul 18, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Halladay's looking to have his no-trade clause bought out.
Or maybe adding $5 million (or whatever it is) in payroll is actually a deal-killer for the Rangers. I don’t know what to think about this club’s financial situation anymore.
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by Snark on Jul 18, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, maybe Heyman's full of shit.
It certainly wouldn’t be the first time.
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by Snark on Jul 18, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
We didn’t have $2 million to give Juan Cruz this spring. And we’ve been hearing from multiple sources all year the Rangers can’t add payroll. So I don’t know why the idea that we can’t add $5 million for Halladay would be such a shock.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 18, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the shock would be....
money vs outcome.
This team has talked about having an ace for probably my entire life, and now they can have one but 5 million dollars stands in the way….I could see if it was a guy that may help you but has question marks…..but this is a guy that can clearly put you in the running for the playoffs the next 2 years.
Also I thought that a big sticking point with Cruz was that he would cost a pick as well.
If the money issue is that crunched, then this team is screwed until they get a new owner.
by death of the cool on Jul 18, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How has Cruz panned out
is he really an upgrade over what we have?
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 18, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again
We’ve heard all year, from folks local and national, that the Rangers can’t take on more payroll this season, period.
That’s been part of the reason why folks have been saying the Rangers aren’t legit players for Halladay.
I don’t know that that is really that difficult to believe.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 18, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Should we have an argument about hard and soft budget caps now?
I think I remember some great ones from days past on the NMLR forum.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
by Snark on Jul 18, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then there is really no point in JD making the phone call.
Why waste his time if we can’t take on any money.
by death of the cool on Jul 18, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again, it's possible that there's more money involved
than $5 million in salary.
And, again, it’s also possible Heyman’s full of shit.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
by Snark on Jul 18, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From MLB Trade Rumors
Halladay Could Demand A Trade After The Season If Traded
By Mike Axisa [July 17 at 7:12pm CST]
Todd Zolecki of MLB.com reminds us of a rarely used rule that could possibly come into play if Roy Halladay is moved before this year’s trade deadline. If a player signed a multi-year extension before October 2006 and is traded during the life of the contract, the player can then demand a trade during the offseason. If the team falls to trade the player by March 15th, he becomes a free agent. Halladay signed a three year, $40MM extension in March of ’06.
Javier Vazquez is the only player to take advantage of this rule in recent years, when he demanded a trade out of Arizona following the 2005 season. Since he already has a no trade clause it’s unlikely Halladay will end up with a team he doesn’t want to play for, but he could use this rule as leverage to get a contract extension after the season. That last part is just speculation on my part, though.
So that is something us to keep in mind…
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jul 18, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting.
I’d think that the Rangers would be interested in a contract extension if they actually pulled off a deal for Halladay, but I’d also imagine with the financial situation what it is, Hicks is probably not in a position to negotiate it this season…
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
by Snark on Jul 18, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus
the other big obstacle standing in the way besides the 5 mil is Halladay saying yes to Arlington since he has the full no trade clause. It all becomes a moot point if he says hell no to pitching in the ballpark.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
"you're fuckin out" (Kenny Powers)
Texas Rangers Baseball: Built to start piece of shit retreads like Dustin Nippert in intradivisional play in July!!!
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jul 18, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or if Halladay asks for a ton of money for the clause to be bought out
in order to go to Texas, and Toronto tells Daniels he’s on the hook for that cash.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
by Snark on Jul 18, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Halladay a Boras client?
If not, how does Heyman know anything about him? I didn’t know he could take his lips off Boras’ ass long enough to do anthing but take a breath…..
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by randyd on Jul 18, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
day wrong
isn’t it Sunday today? why does the header say Saturday?
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by horsedooty on Jul 18, 2009 2:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yikes ...
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by Chase Irwin on Jul 18, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
x
sorry dumbass here it is Saturday after all. It is not as late as I thought.
return now to your regular programing.
I soloed in the Mile High Club!
by horsedooty on Jul 18, 2009 2:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Drugs are bad,
mmkay
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by DJCahill on Jul 18, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not necessarily
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
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by Brian Thomas on Jul 19, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think quite highly
of antihistamines.
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by t ball on Jul 20, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
x
no drugs just a severe case of the dumbass.
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by horsedooty on Jul 18, 2009 3:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
x
ok I will use it now. is there a real reason to use the reply button? you seem to have been able to keep it straight. Just asking. trying to learn. Hard to be a dumbass around here.
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by horsedooty on Jul 18, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yo soy Horsedooty!
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by slc ranger on Jul 19, 2009 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Erin is pissed
so, wrt the link of the nude thru the keyhole, did yall see this?
http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/9822996/Lawyer:-Erin-Andrews-to-sue-over-nude-video?GT1=39002
I soloed in the Mile High Club!
by horsedooty on Jul 18, 2009 4:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
sweet
Sucks that she’s fighting it so hard.
FIRE DAVE ANDERSON!
by Butters on Jul 18, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey ~ when she poses nude, *she'll* be the one to profit from it, y'hear?
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