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Chris Davis in Oklahoma since being sent down:  .395/.455/.684, 8 Ks in 38 ABs

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oh wow

this is awesome… plz keep this

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 18, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

tweeting himself

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

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-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 18, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

What is he doing different?

I guess 8 Ks in 9 games is an improvement.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 18, 2009 12:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Hitting to LF is one thing.

He claims he’s gotten back to old drills that focus on hitting up the middle.

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by rooster on Jul 18, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why wasn't he doing them in Arlington?

Was he told he didn’t need to or they wouldn’t help? It is just coincidence that he gets sent down and he comes up with the idea to do some old drills at the same time?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 18, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

The slug-like young of Ceti eels.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 18, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well,

at one point in the majors he said he was doing that, at Omar’s suggestion. I guess the lunkhead forgot anything but the Rudy method of “swing as hard as you can in case you hit it”

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 18, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

What is he doing different?

Hitting against AAA pitchers would be my guess.

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by LSBUser on Jul 18, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

even still

he was swinging and missing on 88 mph fastballs in the majors, and he is hiting them in the minors.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 18, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess

I just see that he’s doing this against guys like Sidney Ponson and Casey Fossum and it tempers my enthusiasm.

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by LSBUser on Jul 18, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's not like he faced a Cy Young candidate every night in the bigs

For every Greinke, Halladay, Cain, etc. that he faced, there were others who aren’t that much (if any) better than Fossum and Ponson.

If he was destroying the ball in Class A, yeah it wouldn’t mean much and I’d agree. But much of the pitching he faces in Triple A will be replacement level or something near it. Until every ML team starts running out a rotation like the 90s Braves, it’s cause for at least some optimism.

"andruw jones hits 3 HRS at LA of Anaheim last nite after hitting zero at LA of LA as Dodger in all of '08. thats nuts." SI_JonHeyman

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 18, 2009 4:06 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

You are correct.

I think he succumbed to the pressure, and then just spiralled out of control.

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by Rodney on Jul 18, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

How huge would it be if he could come back in August

and put up numbers like he did last season?

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 18, 2009 12:28 PM CDT reply actions  

That would be huge.

But it seems like they are going to go with AJ until his numbers turn negative.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 18, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

until?

haven’t they alredy done that?

Never argue with a fool. Onlookers might not be able to tell you apart.

by randyd on Jul 18, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

.208/.284/.479 since May 1.

I’m not suggesting they DFA him today, or that Davis is ready to come back yet, but let’s not pretend Jones has been tearing things up.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 18, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Adam. why do you do that?

You know AJ’s numbers are in freefall. You also know that any stat by itself is rather meaningless.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 18, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just was pointing out...

…that while Jones’ numbers have been weak the last couple of months, he has still, for the year as a whole, hit pretty well, and thus they are likely going to give him some more time before they cut him loose.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 18, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

So how does AJ compare

to Sideshow Sammy?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 18, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's better than Sideshow was

Also, when Sideshow was here, we were out of the race by May 1, and should have been in auditioning younger players mode. That’s not the case this year.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 18, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also

Jones has, generally speaking, sat against RHPs. Sideshow played every day for four months.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 18, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

thats the biggest difference.

Actually, Sideshow Sammy on this team, being handled the way that AJ is would be a fairly useful player.

I think the front office and manager have gotten a lot more mature since they had sideshow sammy.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 18, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, maybe in handling old Dh types

but this is still the bunch that put Kris Benson in the rotation.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jul 19, 2009 6:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

and pulled him out

after 2 starts.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 19, 2009 7:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't he the FT DH now?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 18, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm shocked

No AJ tonight

Here is the lineup you have to work with against Minnesota RHP Scott Baker: 2B Ian Kinsler, 3B Michael Young, CF Josh Hamilton, RF Marlon Byrd, 1B Hank Blalock, DH Nelson Cruz, LF David Murphy, C Jarrod Saltalamacchia, SS Elvis Andrus and pitching for the Rangers … RHP Scott Feldman.

linky

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 18, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good to see Murphy back in the lineup.

Weird to write those words.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 18, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Murphy in the field

I’m surprised that Murphy is playing the field given the defensive difference between him and Cruz.

by Excel Hearts Choi on Jul 18, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hamilton at DH

So, you’d keep him at DH until the end of the year? Maybe it is just me, but I don’t the Rangers dealing Byrd.

by Excel Hearts Choi on Jul 18, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why not?

Either DH or LF.

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by inactive lsb user on Jul 18, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just don’t think the organization views Hamilton as a DH, unless trying to get the occasional day off or recover from injury. There is nothing wrong with what you propose, but I suppose that it won’t play out that way.

by Excel Hearts Choi on Jul 18, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

What I don't get

Is since Hammy has been back in the lineup, not once has he DH a night. Every game so far he has been playing in the outfield. Wasn’t it a goal of Wash’s to not play Hammy so much in the outfield and give him some rest in the DH spot?

Can’t you just move Byrd to CF, Murph in LF, and Cruz in RF? Sometimes I just don’t get Wash

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by SCDP on Jul 18, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

To be precise, his numbers have been weak the last two months and 17 days.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 18, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would prefer not to

have a .233 batting forth no matter what his obp and ops are. This team needs a cleanup hitter.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 18, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Move Kinsler there

he sucks ass as a leadoff hitter.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 18, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Murphy/Andrus leading off, then?

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 18, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thats what I would do.

A platoon is the best option I see right now.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 18, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kinsler

Thats what i was thinking, he trys to hit for power more than contact so why not put him into a more traditional power hitting spot

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 18, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

One argument's that he shouldn't be trying to hit for power

more than contact, and so a move to cleanup would do more harm than good, both for him and the team.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 18, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree he needs to move

from leading off but that won’t happen midseason.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 18, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't get that

changing lineup seems like something you can do midseason, especially to a guy like Kinsler, who doesn’t seem to go out of his way to get on base.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 18, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think Wash is the

type that wil make such a move midseason. It will take a edict from Nolan JD in the off season to get Wash and Ian to accept a role cahnge.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 18, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

What could be different?

I wonder if the AAA competition just isn’t adept at exploiting the holes in his swing yet. In other news, two weeks since the demotion and Chris Davis STILL leads the AL in strikeouts, haha.

by Tex34 on Jul 18, 2009 12:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Yup, that's funny.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 18, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

i say keep him down until you are pretty damn sure he cant break the single season strike out

record, then bring him back up… Of course, that could be a while

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 18, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

only by one though

Pena’s done his best to catch up.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 18, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey Gdawg ~

Kaisersoze was asking where you were the other day at Newberg’s forum… should I tell him you send your love?

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 18, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Add me to your list.

He needs to post over here.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Jul 18, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I disagree, but I'll pass you message on.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 18, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

*your

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 18, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

You two didn't get along?

I honestly can’t remember…

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 18, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess I missed something too.

Oh well.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Jul 18, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Still is.

And, unfortunately, wufdog himself has only gotten worse.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 18, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's unpossible

Wufdog couldn’t have gotten worse.

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by LSBUser on Jul 18, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

He hath become NMLR's version of Joe Morgan.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 18, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

About wuf...

I thought I was the only one irritated by wuf. That guy would disagree if you told him the day of the week.

by Tex34 on Jul 18, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're not alone by a LONNNNNG shot

Almost everyone disliked him coming over from the ESPN message boards.

He would actually make some valid points, but if it wasn’t brought up by him or if you showed how he was wrong, he wouldn’t even acknowledge any good points from others.

R

by Requiem on Jul 18, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's because he played in the minor leagues in 1950

That shit’s legit

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 18, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

x
wufdog himself has only gotten worse.

That’s impossible.

He singlehandedly killed the ESPN Rangers boards.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 18, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wasn't ever on the ESPN board,

but from a strictly NMLR perspective, I’m telling you: hard as it might be to believe, he’s gotten worse.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 18, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually

the biggest problem with LSB atm is too many of the morons at NMLR jumped over, especially the folks who like to have long arguments with jw.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 18, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I laughed.

Then I realized you might be referring to me.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 18, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

I still pop in there occasionally, but I don’t have as much time and the huge anti-stats movement over there just got to be too big of a beating. I got sick and tired of wufdog saying Padilla was a good pitcher because the Rangers won x number of his starts (and that he’s an arrogant prick to begin with).

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 18, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh.

I’ve been posting over there less, as well. Hasn’t changed much. wufdog and Kaiser are still going at it over Padilla ~ now with Blair and Doug, which makes for some pretty entertaining back-and-forth.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 18, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Davis

One thing lost in bringing Davis back is how well Blalock has hit playing everyday. His July line: ,412/.723/1.135 in 51 PAs. He is hitting incredibly well since Davis left and he started playing everyday. Until he starts to slow down I see no reason to bring Davis back.

by pblack on Jul 18, 2009 1:37 PM CDT reply actions  

well,

I don’t imagine you’d bring Chris back for 100PA anyway.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 18, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you bring him back

then Blalock should move into the FT dh role(if he continues what he is currently doing). Makes us real vulnerable to lefties, but that’s no different than the current lineup.

Never argue with a fool. Onlookers might not be able to tell you apart.

by randyd on Jul 18, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Blalock is still hitting, sure.

However, there is no telling if he will be hot or in a slump in a few weeks.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 18, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh, I know

I’m just kind of tired of The Great Andruw Experiment of 09.

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by randyd on Jul 18, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Always funny to me

how much heat the player with the top OPS on the Rangers is drawing.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 18, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

OPS has dropped

almost 500 points since May 1.

Never argue with a fool. Onlookers might not be able to tell you apart.

by randyd on Jul 18, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

and yet

its still the highest on the team.

Everyone else must really suck.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 18, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

don't make me answer that...

the truth will make me crawl in the fetal position.

by death of the cool on Jul 18, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

for 2 months

YES they have.

Never argue with a fool. Onlookers might not be able to tell you apart.

by randyd on Jul 18, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

OPS

the be all, end all stat. :>(

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 18, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

True

No need for playoffs or WS, just give the rings to the tam with the best OPS.

Never argue with a fool. Onlookers might not be able to tell you apart.

by randyd on Jul 18, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's what Billy Beane and his computer would do! /Joe Morgan

"andruw jones hits 3 HRS at LA of Anaheim last nite after hitting zero at LA of LA as Dodger in all of '08. thats nuts." SI_JonHeyman

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 18, 2009 3:59 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Glad for Chris....

I was one that was very hard on him when he was a lock to strikeout 2 or 3 times a night.

He is a good kid that plays hard and works his tail off.

I hope he comes back up here and starts mashing like the Crush that we thought he would be.

by death of the cool on Jul 18, 2009 2:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Same here

Even when he was in the throes of awfulness, he was still giving his all in every facet of the game and you could see how much it was bothering him to fail. Some players tend to lollygag in the field or on the basepaths at times, particularly when they face adversity, but I never saw that out of CD.

"andruw jones hits 3 HRS at LA of Anaheim last nite after hitting zero at LA of LA as Dodger in all of '08. thats nuts." SI_JonHeyman

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 18, 2009 4:02 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

scott thorman

has been tearing it up too!

Michael Young is the next Steve Garvey.

by gossamer on Jul 18, 2009 4:29 PM CDT reply actions  

jfwy

Michael Young is the next Steve Garvey.

by gossamer on Jul 18, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Angels/As

Going into the Bottom of the 4th, Angels got an 8-1 lead….

Stupid Angels

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by SCDP on Jul 18, 2009 4:34 PM CDT reply actions  

yeah

What are they doing scoring 8 runs when they are missing Guererro and Hunter?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 18, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Errors

Some costly errors by the A’s.

by Excel Hearts Choi on Jul 18, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

OT: Heyman tweeting on Halladay

Says he hears Rangers don’t have the $, Angels don’t want to give up prospects.

Good grief, have the Angels EVER wanted to give up a prospect? It’s like that franchise operates under the assumption that trading bid prospects is against MLB rules. Sometimes you can trade “meh” for value (see their Teixeira trade), but if you’re not careful you’ll end up with too many once valuable, now busted assets on your hands (see McPherson, Dallas).

"andruw jones hits 3 HRS at LA of Anaheim last nite after hitting zero at LA of LA as Dodger in all of '08. thats nuts." SI_JonHeyman

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 18, 2009 4:46 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

The Angels don't have the prospects

Who are they going to give from their minor league system that would match up with the kind of offers that Toronto is looking for. The proposed deals from the Rangers that are apparently not enough for Halladay (ignoring the money aspect) would top just about anything the Angels could offer.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 18, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

SS

I’ve heard rumors that the Jays are looking for a SS. As such, Brandon Wood’s name has been tossed about quite a bit. Of course, Wood has been mentioned in many deals, but has always been kept in the organization.

by Excel Hearts Choi on Jul 18, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

They've refused to trade him about 11 billion times, it seems like

They either have to trade him or eventually play him or he’s going to be collecting Social Security benefits while still riding the Orange County-Salt Lake shuttle.

He’s still young, but geeze, it seems like we’ve been hearing about him as “the guy” for about ten years already and yet they still refuse to give him a fair shake. We’ve got hotshot rookies and near-ready prospects who were like in 4th grade when I first heard Brandon Wood’s name.

"andruw jones hits 3 HRS at LA of Anaheim last nite after hitting zero at LA of LA as Dodger in all of '08. thats nuts." SI_JonHeyman

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 18, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

At what point does Chris come back?

The purpose of sending him down was 2-fold: help him find what he lost this year at the plate and get rid of a 50% strikeout chance every time he came up to the plate. He has obviously found a way to hit, albeit against a lower level of pitcher. So that leaves the question would bringing him back up now improve the Rangers lineup?

by Mark from OC on Jul 18, 2009 4:50 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't see the Rangers getting a quality major league or major league-ready pitcher for Blalock

Right now, Blalock’s bat is too important a part of the daily lineup to trade him for anything less. Trading Blalock for less is giving up on winning the AL West this year.

by Mark from OC on Jul 18, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've been a proponent of finding a way to trade Blalock for several years

But you’re exactly right. Under the current circumstances, it’d be a bad idea to move him at this deadline. If only he hadn’t been hurt last summer or the economy hadn’t sucked this winter…

"andruw jones hits 3 HRS at LA of Anaheim last nite after hitting zero at LA of LA as Dodger in all of '08. thats nuts." SI_JonHeyman

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 18, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

With the numbers hes putting up he may bring a nice player in return

Having said that if this team is still in a pennant race I don’t see them trading one of their best offensive players. The only way I think Blalock is traded is if there is already a deal in place to bring in a guy like Halladay and you can say the trade is to free up the salary to bring that guy in.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 18, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

As much as it stuns me to say this, subtracting Blalock may create bigger problems than the benefits added with Halladay

Halladay is of my favorite pitchers in the game today, but as good as he is, he can still only pitch every five days. Consistently scoring runs is a bigger issue this year than upgrading to a true ace at the front of the rotation. When you take Blalock out of the lineup, how much more troublesome does the offense become?

"andruw jones hits 3 HRS at LA of Anaheim last nite after hitting zero at LA of LA as Dodger in all of '08. thats nuts." SI_JonHeyman

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 18, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

That would depend on how Davis does when he comes back

I agree with you but if Davis came back and put up numbers like last year it would mitigate some the loss of Hank.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 18, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just wonder how quick they plan to bring back Davis

Has anyone heard a comment from JD on this? I’m sure they don’t want to risk rushing him back and the lessons of Triple A not sticking like they should. I could see them keeping him in Triple A until September call-ups and then use him in the race down the stretch. I’d be real surprised, though, to see him back before the deadline.

"andruw jones hits 3 HRS at LA of Anaheim last nite after hitting zero at LA of LA as Dodger in all of '08. thats nuts." SI_JonHeyman

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 18, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

You mean

the Blalock thats 1 for 8 after the break? I’m curious to know if his pre ASB hot streak is already over, and if we are back to Blalock in a funk we saw earlier.

I don’t know if its a sure thing that taking Blalock out of the order will hurt this team, because he is yet another streaky hitter on a team full of them.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 19, 2009 4:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Trading question

Aren’t the Rangers going to find themselves in a little bit of a crunch, 40-man speaking, this winter, and worse next year?
My question-couldn’t they package 2-3 of these middling/fringy prospects to maybe get a guy to help a little this season(a guy whose contract is up), as well as ease the numbers crunch this winter? I have no idea who, just hypothetically?

Never argue with a fool. Onlookers might not be able to tell you apart.

by randyd on Jul 18, 2009 6:06 PM CDT reply actions  

this winter shouldn't be

a problem. Next winter, yes.

Lucas rule V chart

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 18, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I see-next wintwer and the one after-yikes.

Never argue with a fool. Onlookers might not be able to tell you apart.

by randyd on Jul 18, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

starting next winter it looks to get really interesting for a few years in a row

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 18, 2009 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really hope...

he just had to go down and get his confidence back up. It really seemed like he was expecting to fail when he stepped up to the plate the last month or so. I hope the problem was that it was just in his head before he even stepped into the box.

Sure would be nice if the CD from last year is the guy the Rangers can get in the future too.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jul 19, 2009 1:14 AM CDT reply actions  

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