The Rainbow Lollipop Valley (Post here if you loooove Jesus!!!)
by cmkelly29 on Jul 18, 2009 1:33 PM CDT
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Here, I've changed this topic so that everyone can stop freaking out about it.
Continue the debate if you want.
Fuck L Ron Hubbard and
Fuck all his clones.
Fuck all these gun-toting
Hip gangster wannabes.
Learn to swim.
Fuck retro anything.
Fuck your tattoos.
Fuck all you junkies and
Fuck your short memory.
Learn to swim.
Fuck smiley glad-hands,
With hidden agendas.
Fuck these dysfunctional,
Insecure actresses.
Learn to swim.
Cuz I'm praying for rain
And I'm praying for tidal waves
I wanna see the ground give way.
I wanna watch it all go down.
Mum please flush it all away.
I wanna see it go right in and down.
I wanna watch it go right in.
Watch you flush it all away.
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Let me just add...
What this guy did was really fucked up.
Posting it here is probably just as fucked up. I realize that, but I figured some of you guys would want to see it.
by cmkelly29 on Jul 18, 2009 1:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
why did you post this?
She was the victim of a crime, and you are encouraging more people to view it. Her lawyers have threatened to sue any and all who disseminate the footage. I’m sure Adam really appreciates you putting this up here.
"Was this really necsarry?" - cowpoke/hurler hurley
by trza on Jul 18, 2009 3:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I for one
Definatly appreciate this.
Probably the best post in the past few months actually.
by SaltyGoesYard on Jul 18, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
gagree.
Definite rec worthy.
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by DJCahill on Jul 18, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
as far as i can tell all he is doing is
disseminating information that such a video exists and is apparently accessible. it’s not really different from a news story about the video’s release. we are all adults here and know how to use google if we want to find this thing. i guess the tone of the post is a little tacky and voyeuristic but i hardly think it’s worth getting worked up about.
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Jul 18, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
mature
"Was this really necsarry?" - cowpoke/hurler hurley
by trza on Jul 18, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No that's different
this belongs in the voyeur category.
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by t ball on Jul 18, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What an odd little fumbletwit you are
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
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by Brian Thomas on Jul 18, 2009 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Jul 18, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it looks like I"m going to lose this argument
But making a post directing people to a site where they can view this fucked up criminal video is unethical. cmkelly29 basically recognized that much himself when he posted it. so why perpetuate it?
"Was this really necsarry?" - cowpoke/hurler hurley
by trza on Jul 18, 2009 6:03 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
I don't know
It was only six seconds long and I have seen naked women before. It’s not really worth talking about. Not sure why it was posted about here or why anyone is interested in it.
by Black Francis on Jul 18, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
best 6 seconds of my life....
by death of the cool on Jul 18, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
its longer than 6 seconds its closer to 5 minutes
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
by Jayslick on Jul 18, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I only saw six seconds.
And got pretty bored with it. I know she’s good looking but that type of voyeur shit doesn’t do it for me, whether real or staged or whatever.
by Black Francis on Jul 18, 2009 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
definately boring and id bet my life its staged
hot naked chicks are great, blurry ones pretending to be voyeured (is that a real word) not so much.
this reminds me a lot of the paris hilton, “i cant believe sum1 videoed me while i pose for the camera” moment.
she is hot though, and naked as hell, and posing it seems.
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
by Jayslick on Jul 18, 2009 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
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by lonestarJon on Jul 18, 2009 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trza
The things I would eat out of her ass, you have no idea.
by SaltyGoesYard on Jul 18, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
great movie.
I mean, I guess it would just be a guy who you know, grabs bananas and runs. Or, um, a banana that grabs things. I don’t know. Why would a banana grab another banana? I mean, those are the kind of questions I don’t want to answer.
by buckets on Jul 19, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I totally agree with you.
But don’t expect many other to do so.
This is the interwebs, sanctuary of the fucked up pervert.
I have zero idea what this video is or if it’s real, but if it is real and she was really secretly taped without her knowledge, then it’s plenty fucked up and posting about it here is a douche move.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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by thedirkatron on Jul 19, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Douche move?
Give me a break.
All that I said was that I had seen it, and if other people (who I guess are just as douchey as me?) wanted to see it, they could.
I consider many of you to be friends of mine, and I shared the info with you like I would with my own friends. I knew the high-and-mighty, morally pure folks here would give me shit about it. Oh well.
by cmkelly29 on Jul 19, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't know that finding the dissemination of a video of a girl being video taped naked without her knowledge or consent to be wrong made me high and mighty or morally pure.
(If that is indeed what happened here, I haven’t reasearched it and I’m naturally incredulous whenever something like this breaks on the internet.)
For the record I’m neither high nor mighty, and my morals are anything but pure.
Basically I think your viewpoint on this is sad. That’s all. And I struggle to figure how you could bristle at the notion this is a douche move. It’s pretty clearly douchey. Not that it’s some horrible abomination or a blight on the face of society or anything over the top like that, or even that it makes you a douche in totallity, just that this move itself is totally douchetacular. If this happened to your mom or sister or wife, wouldn’t you be outraged and want to throw the guy who did it through a brick wall?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jul 19, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course I would...
but then again, I understand how the internet works. I would want to kill the guy who taped it, but I guess I could understand why people would want to see it. I will admit that it’s probably not kindest act on Earth, but I’m not going to hate myself for sharing it with you guys.
I figure that much like the Paris Hilton video, this will make it’s way to everyone’s eyes at some point. If this was, let’s say, a year down the road and everyone had seen it. Would it be as bad?
My intentions were good, really. I just figured there would be a few guys who wouldn’t mind seeing it, and like I said, I consider you guys friends.
by cmkelly29 on Jul 19, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let me add dirk...
I’m not upset that you called my actions “douchey” or anything, I understand.
You’re an alright guy in my book, and really, I’m sorry if I’ve offended anyone. I just figured there would be some people interested in the vid.
by cmkelly29 on Jul 19, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That movie you recommended
Was it Let the Right One In?
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
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by Brian Thomas on Jul 19, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jul 19, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you rec this post up?
I thout CM deleted it, until I looked up here.
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by Rodney on Jul 19, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this proves 1 thing
LSB is full of perverts!
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by rentz on Jul 19, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
6 at least.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Jul 19, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unnastand youself.
Guys are visual creatures, that’s how we’ve been wired, for millennia…only fat and or ugly chicks use that word you just typed.
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"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
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by Rodney on Jul 19, 2009 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wanted to post to say
that your last sentence, in particular, is an especially good point.
Women get a hell of a lot of disrespect, even in our colloquialisms. I’ve spoken with my friends about this kind of stuff in the past, and most guys don’t want to accept accountability.
by jwiscarson on Jul 20, 2009 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok checked it out and my first impression
this is a total setup, erin andrews knew that she was being taped and this is a publicity stunt. who the hell stands butt assed naked while they curl their hair for 5 solid minutes rotating around to make sure every1 gets a good look? Its ridiculous, its so in your face a publicity stunt.
any1 who watches the video, let me know what you think. thats my take.
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
by Jayslick on Jul 18, 2009 7:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not mad at myself for watching it.
I'm Ron Burgundy?
by Ryin A on Jul 18, 2009 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
a) Usually a publicity stunt serves a purpose, and I’m not sure I see what this accomplishes for Erin Andrews at all….
b) Girls do their hair naked and look at themselves in the mirror from a million angles while they do it all the time. They are weird.
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by Wes Cox on Jul 19, 2009 1:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
re: A)
Things like this make a girl infinitely more famous.
Paris Hilton and that Kardashian chick with the comically huge ass for example. Maybe I’m just not pop culture-y enough, but I had no idea who those bitches were and then all the sudden one day it was like “SEX TAPE!” and then they were famous as shit.
Something like this would certainly seem to be not on the same level as a sex tape, but anything in that basic genre can obviously thrust someone into the mainstream for a little while.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jul 19, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're just not pop culture enough I would say
atleast with Paris Hilton
by Mike E on Jul 19, 2009 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where is
this 5 min video, awesome…
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by PM Productions on Jul 19, 2009 1:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my wife does her hair naked...not sure why
i brush my teeth naked. I usually try to get everything done in the bathroom before putting clothes on.
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by willamos2 on Jul 19, 2009 7:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's kind of funny
I was listening to XM the other day, and they had a guy call in whose best friend had to take a dump COMPLETELY naked, even if he was in a public bathroom (and he had no qualms about pooping in a public BR, by the way).
So picture this: You go into the men’s room, and while standing at the urinal, you see pants, a shirt, socks, etc., all neatly folded over the stall door. Fucking hilarious. Or even weirder, imagine if you were in the shitter next to him, and he starts stacking his clothes over the wall you share.
He even has to take his watch off.
Evidently it is because his Mom always made him get buck naked when he was kid.
People are funny.
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
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by Brian Thomas on Jul 19, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe I heard a bit on The Ticket a few years ago
and David Robinson Also had to be completely naked to take a dump, as well.
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by Bob Loblaw on Jul 19, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
See, I wasn't gonna go there.
But yes, and DRA could not use a public, or a friend, or relative pooper. He would actually rent a hotel room to take a dump…WTH?
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by Rodney on Jul 19, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think George just took his shirt off
Are you saying I made it up?
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by Brian Thomas on Jul 20, 2009 7:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hadn't thought of it that way, but it makes perfect sense.
Either way, internet .. ftw!
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by Chase Irwin on Jul 19, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they're real and they're spectacular!
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by rentz on Jul 18, 2009 7:58 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
perverts!!!!!!
Michael Young > Steve Garvey.
Nelson Cruz >Greg Nettles.
Elvis Andrus > Willie McGee.
Ian Kinsler > Darryl Strawberry.
i dunno, that's just really random.
by gossamer on Jul 18, 2009 11:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I was going to stay out of this one ...
… but this got rec’d enough to make it to the top list? Really? Really really? It’s bad enough that there are people who try to justify viewing this video, but now you have to ensure that this post stays on the first page as long as possible so others can join in your enjoyment of deviant behavior?
by Melmart1 on Jul 20, 2009 11:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
People must really hate looking at dirkatron's face
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by Gdawg on Jul 20, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This.
"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem
by Chase Irwin on Jul 20, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looking at a video...
of a naked chick isn’t “deviant” I don’t think. It would have to be an activity enjoyed by so few people as to be outside the norm. Since if you go to Google and type “Erin Andrews,” and Google helpfully fills in for you “peephole video,” I don’t think this particular situation qualifies as “deviant.”
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by benmor78 on Jul 20, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um ...
I wasn’t saying viewing the video was deviant. I said those viewing it were enjoying deviant behavior, as in they were enjoying illegal voyeurism. The videotaping of a naked woman unbeknownst to her is deviant behavior, and those viewing and defending the video are enjoying the deviant behavior.
by Melmart1 on Jul 20, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But the very fact...
that so many people are viewing it precludes it being deviant. I’m just saying that “deviant” isn’t the right word. Maybe “reprehensible,” but not “deviant.”
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by benmor78 on Jul 20, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So because a mass of people
view the video, that means that the guy who videotaped it was ‘reprehensible’ but not ‘deviant?’ Is that all it takes, numbers? That’s a pretty poor argument, I think. The masses don’t make something right. The masses are stupid.
by Melmart1 on Jul 20, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Deviant...
means “aberrant” or “outside the norm.” Definitionally, if a bunch of people are viewing the video, it’s not outside the norm.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
by benmor78 on Jul 20, 2009 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bullshit
People watch snuff films or else they wouldn’t exist. That isn’t deviant? Not that I’m taking a position about this particular film but to claim that others are doing it makes it OK doesn’t hold an ounce of water.
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by WyoRanger on Jul 20, 2009 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's not what he's saying at all.
He’s arguing that the word deviant doesn’t apply, that’s all.
It’s pretty clear.
Don’t know how you could miss that actually, as he’s stated he’s strictly arguing semantics here several times in very clear English.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jul 20, 2009 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But why split semantic hairs?
Seems pretty pointless.
Hitler wasn’t a socialist; he was a fascist!
OK.
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Jul 20, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because he's Ben and Ben loves to argue any and every point.
Are you new here?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jul 20, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also like to call Mike Hindman a namedropper.
Man, if he’d show up in this thread, my night would be complete.
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by benmor78 on Jul 20, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
I like to ask him for Barbaro updates.
He’s fun.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jul 20, 2009 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This thread is beginning and completing a lot of nights already.
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by Chase Irwin on Jul 20, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, what dirk said.
I’m simply saying that “deviant” is not the word to use here.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
by benmor78 on Jul 20, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You still don't get it?
I said the TAPING of a naked woman without permission is deviant. ANd those watching the video are enjoying this man’s deviant behavior.
by Melmart1 on Jul 20, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damnit again
I agree with this too. I don’t think it’s right to videotape a naked girl without her permission. Call me old fashioned. I also think it can be considered “deviant.”
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
by WyoRanger on Jul 20, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, I guess.
Just making the distinction that watching the video isn’t particularly deviant.
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by benmor78 on Jul 20, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never made that statement, ever.
watching it doesn’t make YOU a deviant, but it sure as hell doesn’t make the person who taped it any less deviant. What that person did is pretty clearly deviant by most standards. That’s what I was trying to say.
by Melmart1 on Jul 20, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't even know if I'd consider the person taping it deviant...
considering that magazines with very high circulations surreptitiously take topless photos of starlets on beaches or “look at how fat Kelly Clarkson’s ass looks in this bikini” pictures or whatever.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
by benmor78 on Jul 20, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hotel room versus beach
One is public the other is not.
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by WyoRanger on Jul 20, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see the distinction.
If you’re so up in arms about celebrities deserving no worse than “normal” people, why should they be forced to endure humiliation by walking in a non-secluded area?
by brettgardner on Jul 20, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
Secretly taping a girl naked in her bathroom and taking pics of a chick at a public beach are the same thing to you?
I find that hard to believe.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jul 20, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's the difference?
Do you expect to be photographed when you go out in public?
by brettgardner on Jul 20, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, you're just being a contrarian ass here.
And you know it.
I don’t know why you get in these moods sometime, but I’ve learned to just slowly back away, and so I will.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jul 20, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry you feel that way
I’m really not trying to be a contrarian ass.
by brettgardner on Jul 20, 2009 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you seriously
saying that celebrities wearing unflattering clothes in PUBLIC and getting their picture taken (which they know will happen) is the same as a naked woman in a private hotel room getting videotaped? Really?
by Melmart1 on Jul 20, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know for a fact...
that those grainy topless celeb photos that show up in magazines are generally taken when the celeb in question believes they are in private, or at least reasonably private. So there’s a difference of degree, but not much.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
by benmor78 on Jul 20, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I stand by my assertion
that peeping toms who videotape naked women are deviants. It’s not normal, not at all. And those grainy topless celeb pics aren’t exactly normal, either. As a percentage of the amount of pictures that are taken of said stars, I would say it’s a very small number. Which makes it abnormal, and therefore can likely qualify as deviant by your definition.
by Melmart1 on Jul 20, 2009 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
When exactly does something go from deviant to normal? The photograph itself hasn’t existed for very long.
by brettgardner on Jul 20, 2009 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The grainy topless celeb pics...
appear in mainstream magazines, and so wouldn’t be deviant. And, rest assured, I’m not approving of the guy’s actions here, I just don’t think it rises to the level of deviancy.
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by benmor78 on Jul 20, 2009 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
How does watching the video make you any less deviant than the person that taped it? I guess the answer is that the tape exists, is on the tubes, so the harm’s been done. Still doesn’t seem right. Still doesn’t mean I might watch it.
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by WyoRanger on Jul 20, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are deviant things that happen...
in the porn world, if Boogie Nights is to be believed, does that make you deviant for enjoying porn?
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by benmor78 on Jul 20, 2009 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good lord.
Let the market sort out morality.
by brettgardner on Jul 20, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
Why would the market decide if people wanted to view a video that I presume is free (haven’t looked at it; not holier than thou just busy)? If it’s an illegal video the law sorts it out. If not it comes down to morality. Speaking of which, why isn’t it hypocritical that you object to others’ moral objections – isn’t that a moral objection of your own?
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
by WyoRanger on Jul 20, 2009 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Free?
People only link to it to get hits. If nobody cared, it wouldn’t happen. I said nothing about the legality of the tape, just melmart’s self-righteousness.
And no, not every objection is a moral objection.
by brettgardner on Jul 20, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not being self-righteous
the person who videotaped this is a deviant. You can try to justify the taping all you want but it’s my opinion and I don’t think it makes me self-righteous.
by Melmart1 on Jul 20, 2009 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with ben
That you’re not really using the correct term here. If you mean “morally corrupt”, then OK—I couldn’t really care less from that standpoint. If, though, enough people agree with you to make it illegal, then I’m all for prosecuting the fuck out of him.
by brettgardner on Jul 20, 2009 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't think 'deviant'
is the right term for someone who sticks a camera in a hotel peephole and videotapes an unassuming woman naked without her permission? Because deviant is something that isn’t normal, and that sure as hell isn’t normal in my book.
You are right about them being morally corrupt. IMHO, the videotaping was deviant behavior. Plastering it all over the internet makes them morally corrupt as well. So maybe we are both right.
by Melmart1 on Jul 20, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well this discussion is going on above
But I don’t see much difference between this and any other secretive photography.
by brettgardner on Jul 20, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not at all related to the discussion..
Do you plan to retire the avatar when he steps down?
by Houston27 on Jul 20, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I do
I’m going backwards, not forward—I’m thinking Joseph Story.
by brettgardner on Jul 20, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Had to look that name up.
Chuckled to think that he would be an authority in any debates about Martin (Perez) vs. Hunter. Ok, I’m bored.
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by t ball on Jul 21, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's an example of deviant...
deviant aspect #1: furries.
deviant aspect #2: ugly older woman, underage boy.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0702092furry1.html
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
by benmor78 on Jul 20, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would call that
abhorrent AND deviant. Deviant is simply something that is outside the norm. Sticking a camera in a peephole and videotaping w/o permission is definitely outside the norm. Maybe we just have different definitions of what makes something deviant.
We are not going to change each other’s minds, so I will respect your opinion and leave it at that. But thanks for not letting this devolve into some name-calling pissing contest like so many of these threads kinds of threads often become.
by Melmart1 on Jul 20, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My definition of deviant...
it always involves furries.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
by benmor78 on Jul 20, 2009 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't know
what a furry was until I saw that episode of “Entourage” a season or two ago when Turtle makes the date with one and backs out, only to have Drama go in and close the deal.
by Melmart1 on Jul 20, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They used to use...
furry websites all the time for the Awful Link of the Day over at SomethingAwful all the time. There are things that you see that you can’t unsee (shudder).
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
by benmor78 on Jul 20, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The best part of the video...
was the SportsCenter theme song playing at the very end. I laughed.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 20, 2009 8:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure Erin Andrew's incredible good looks have served her well in life
I would guess that she has enjoyed priveledges her whole life because of her looks, so it’s hard for me to work up a bunch of sympathy for her. I’m not saying that I condone what was done to her, I just think that if you really thought about it, this is a pretty small cross to bear.
A couple weeks of embarrasment in exchange for a lifetime of priveledge. Not a bad deal if you ask me.
There's more to the picture than meets the eye.
by tricer on Jul 20, 2009 8:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
You seem like you’re a pretty smart guy, Todd. Probably enjoyed a lifetime of privelege due to your above average intellegence. No pumping gas or digging ditches for a living for Mr. Trice.
And so I therefor think it’s completely okay to secretly videotape you all sweaty and out of breath as you furiously masturbate to some nice Asian-Fisting pornography in the comfort of your home office, and then plaster it all over the internet.
A couple weeks of embarrasment in exchange for a lifetime of priveledge. Not a bad deal if you ask me.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jul 20, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't the analogy have to be about him showing off his brains?
So it would be like videotaping him doing some calculus or w/e
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
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-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jul 20, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you seemed to understand what I was saying a lot better than Hunter did.
There's more to the picture than meets the eye.
by tricer on Jul 20, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you missed it
And I didn’t say it was ok.
There's more to the picture than meets the eye.
by tricer on Jul 20, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, you just insinuated it was much ado about nothing
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Jul 20, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you are pretty wrong about that
As dudes we don’t have any conception of how utterly humiliating it is for a woman, wherever her physical appearance falls on the scale of 10, to have her naked body exposed to just one unwelcome person, much less thousands on the series of tubes.
I respect you and your opinion a lot, Todd, but I think the conclusion you just came to, that this is essentially a blip on her career radar, is borderline asanine, and really, really faulty.
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Jul 20, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, last comment on the matter
In the first paragraph above you act like being seen naked is some emotion-wrenching experience for a woman. Guess that may be true for some of them, but plenty of women pose nude, dance nude, go to nude beaches, flash tits for plastic beads, wear as little clothing as possible, etc. Being seen naked isn’t some horrific experience that terrifies every woman on the planet, a lot of females like it.
I think this incident is basically a blip on her career radar, what do you think it is? An invasion of privacy without doubt, but what else? Something that is going to ruin her career? Absolutely not, her popularity is higher than ever. Something that is going to lose her money? Absolutely not, she can probably demand more money now than ever before in her life. If it’s not just a career blip, then what is it Brian?
And the reason I made the original post that started this is because I believe there are probably thousands of women in America that are just as talented as Erin Andrews, but not as easy on the eyes. Women that work in sports journalism that will never be handed the opportunities that Andrews has been. My guess is that the majority of those women would gladly swap places with her right now, peephole video and all.
Again, I never said that what happened to her was right, but if we are going to get worked up about people that are victims, there are a lot of victims that are in more sympathic situations in my opinion.
There's more to the picture than meets the eye.
by tricer on Jul 21, 2009 6:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is an easy distinction here.
Plenty of women choose to pose nude, choose to dance nude, choose to go to nude beaches, choose to expose themselves in public, and choose how to dress. Erin Andrews did not choose to have this happen to her, and any implication that the two are equivalent is indescribably short-sighted. Inferring that other women would gladly trade places with someone who illegally had her privacy violated also seems pretty sexist to me.
by jwiscarson on Jul 21, 2009 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you are still missing the point
It’s not the nudity, per se, it’s the being spied on, leeringly eavesdropped on, with a camera, when you are at your most vulnerable. She was violated.
I did say career radar, but that wasn’t really what I meant. Obviously, this won’t have a harmful affect on her career, except for the occasional crude joke she will likely get about it from time to time doing interviews and whatnot. But I think you are kidding yourself if you think this is something that will be easily forgotten by her shortly. That’s what I meant to convey about the radar blip. I doubt she’ll feel comfortable in a changing room or bathroom for years.
These types of things are a big deal for women.
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Jul 21, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
An excellent point.
Simply because we have a difficult time measuring the emotional impact and long-lasting effects of these rights violations doesn’t mean that the emotional impact doesn’t isn’t substantial. Before, she likely had to deal with leers and obviously had to learn to cope with being objectified on a daily basis, but she didn’t have to wonder “how many of these men have seen me naked?”
by jwiscarson on Jul 21, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plenty of women have sex and it certainly isn’t some horrific experience that terrifies every woman on the planet, and a lot of females like it; but it would be ridiculous to infer from this that a woman forced to have sex against her will will see such a violation as a mere blip on her radar.
On the one hand I do think that attractive people, both men and women, have a big career advantage in televised media, but it’s really cynical and insensitive to view this thing in terms of her career. If she was indeed violated like this, it is an unfortunate and discomforting incident that should be divorced from her career.
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Jul 21, 2009 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good lord
Since she’s attractive she deserves indignity? Is this some fucked up karma analysis? Yeah, she lucked out in the gene pool but that doesn’t mean she should be treated any differently than any other woman.
I remember a while back I saw a video of her interviewing Joba and it seems like he said something improper at the end. She didn’t deserve that either.
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
by WyoRanger on Jul 20, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
didn’t say she deserves indignity, just said it is hard for me to feel especially sympathetic.
There's more to the picture than meets the eye.
by tricer on Jul 20, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a really sad point of view.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jul 20, 2009 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jul 21, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dehumanizing people because of their looks
is the very sort of logic that “pretty people” use to pick on weird kids in high school. Applying the same set of actions to someone who’s attractive doesn’t make the world a better place, and is a pretty dim outlook on life regardless of the direction of discrimination.
Look: If anyone thinks women have an easy time of it, check out media images of women, and then consider that most women are more self-conscious to begin with because of societal pressures to fit into a very slim definition of “attractive”. I won’t even go into violence statistics, pay inequality statistics, or anything else far more tangible than this.
If you can’t sympathize with her because you think she’s attractive, sympathize with the situation.
by jwiscarson on Jul 20, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmm...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=8151491&page=1
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
by benmor78 on Jul 23, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This thread needs to die.
I’m a white boy who doesn’t think a black man is good enough to manage my baseball team.-Lonestarjon
by AirJordan on Jul 20, 2009 8:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's had so many permutations...
Such a comedy goldmine. I’ve been sitting back, watching, enjoying…
by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 20, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"mmmmm, this popcorn tastes like junk shooting in my vains"
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
by Jayslick on Jul 21, 2009 2:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is quite entertaining indeed.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jul 20, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I liked it a lot more
When we were talking about pooping.
I had a paper route when I was a kid. I was supposed to go to 2,000 houses. Or two dumpsters.
by TheBZA on Jul 21, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
she was assaulted!
delete this!
Michael Young > Steve Garvey.
Nelson Cruz >Greg Nettles.
Elvis Andrus > Willie McGee.
Ian Kinsler > Darryl Strawberry.
i dunno, that's just really random.
by gossamer on Jul 20, 2009 9:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Lollipop Guild was assaulted?
Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.
by rangers85 on Jul 20, 2009 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm such a rebel...
I don’t love Jesus and I just posted here anyways.
This thread turned out to be quite entertaining.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jul 21, 2009 10:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What do you expect from the Rainbow Lollipop Valley?
Loving Jesus isn’t the only requirement.
by cmkelly29 on Jul 21, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Question
How does one videotape someone through a peephole? Was this a reverse peephole or something?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jul 21, 2009 11:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
At my dorm
You could unscrew the peepholes from the outside.
by brettgardner on Jul 21, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some think it wasn't a peephole
"Let me tell you something my friend. Hope is a dangerous thing. Hope can drive a man insane." ---Red, The Shawshank Redeption
by drizzle on Jul 21, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this one looks like he stood in here room with a piece of cardboard with a hole in it
then they both peruse it after taping and put it on the web.
this is so set up its silly
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
by Jayslick on Jul 22, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think its set up
Erin Andrews has little to gain from this. Her whole appeal was that guys everywhere wondered what she looked like naked. Now, the mystery is gone.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jul 22, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You really believe
That a guy would rather have mystery than a naked woman?
by brettgardner on Jul 22, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends
on the woman.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jul 22, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really
There’s no hot woman I’d rather have mystery with than nakedness.
by brettgardner on Jul 22, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
If given a choice I’m sure those guys that have raging crushes for EA would prefer to see her naked. I think Gdawg’s point was she’s better off playing off that mystery than setting up a voyeuristic video exposing her naked body.
I had a paper route when I was a kid. I was supposed to go to 2,000 houses. Or two dumpsters.
by TheBZA on Jul 22, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
I had to read that twice.
That hypothesis makes no sense at all.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jul 23, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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