LSB Community Prospect Project: Mid-Season #15
by thedirkatron on Jul 19, 2009 11:18 AM CDT
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After garnering 32% of 187 votes, Joe Wieland has won the right to be called the LSB Community #14 prospect!
The List So Far:
1. 1b, Justin Smoak
2. RHP, Neftali Feliz
3. LHP, Martin Perez
4. RHP, Tanner Scheppers
5. LHP, Matt Purke
6. RHP, Wilmer Font
7. (Tie) RHP, Blake Beavan
7. (Tie) CF, Julio Borbon
9. RHP, Tommy Hunter
10. RHP, Michael Main
11. LHP, Kasey Kiker
12. LHP, Robbie Ross
13. C, Max Ramirez
14. RHP, Joe Wieland
Time to move on to the vote for #15.
The polls are open, so go ahead and vote in the poll at the bottom and feel free to make any suggestions and/or criticisms in the comments below.
And, as always, please don't hesitate to tell me you want on the list for next time.
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Wieland last time, but gotta go with Engel Beltre here by a hair over Boscan and Madrigal.
Beltre’s tools are jaw dropping, and his drop in slash-line production from last year is strikingly similar to his drop in BABIP. From the looks of things he’s been working hard on taking more pitches/walks. Oh, and he’s still realy young.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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To skinny
"You know, I’m playing entirely too much." - Andruw Jones
"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels
Nothing in particular.
He actually belongs in the next group for me.
What he’s been doing this year has gone overlooked, imo.
He might be above Boscan and Madrigal, I’ll have to give it another look tomorrow.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jul 19, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Great Sign
To be in a position here you are thinking wether a guy with the upside of Beltre deserves to be in the top 15 of your team’s system.
Boscan for me here.
After him, I have no idea.
"You know, I’m playing entirely too much." - Andruw Jones
"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels
Boscan & Moreland
the next two for me
After the show I want Greg Oden to tuck us both in and tell us stories about the old days. - Will Ferrell
Wow...
I have Boscan at #9. The fact that he may not even make the top 15 on this list shows how deep this system really is.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
OT: Did MJH ever finish his top 40?
Anybody have a link if he did?
I think Poveda should be on before Boscan.
Riddle me why not, seriously.
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"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
Couldn't agree more.
I’m just hoping Fredo isn’t an A player.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jul 19, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep
Loved Poveda for a couple years now. Been voting him last couple tries
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
me too
Like I said in the last thread, he’s a pitcher with a similar ceiling to Wieland and Boscan but is pitching well in AA as opposed to Hickory.
Psst
I don’t think the crowd is with us.
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"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
I voted Omar
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Jul 20, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions
i was going to vote for Poveda
but changed my mind at the very last moment and went with Tim Smith
by davisdingergoingdeep on Jul 20, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions
A Name to Add...
Although I’m not certain if I’d vote for him in the next couple of rounds, I think Richard Alvarez might be worth adding to the list. He is, after all, currently holding his own in the Arizona Rookie League despite being about three weeks away from turning 17.
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im sad there hasnt been any more crops?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 19, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm voting for Hurley at this point
Lots of pretty good talent still out there, but I’m going with the ML ready starter in Hurley. The health is a concern of course, but I think he can make it back and be ready for next season.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Is he on a throwing program yet?
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wow aweful early for him
considering a) no one knows how bad his arm was hurt b) he isnt even throwing and c) no one knows when he will start throwing
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 19, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Hurley
has definitely gotten lost in all this. Whose to say he doesnt come back and do very well? I mean he didnt have snap dragon type slider or curve that he has to stop throwing now that he had surgery. Sounds weird but he simply had it and it working his way back. Honestly, guys that dont have to abandon a pitch or throw it differently after TJ usually come back fairly strong.
by Michael Cave on Jul 20, 2009 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions
the issue is
again that no one knows anything about his injury or his rehab — anyway, looking at his stats in the minors over the last few years, would he really deserve to be in the rangers top 15 prospects?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 20, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
our least talked about pitching prospect
Kennil Gomez. He isn’t blowing away the Cal League, but he is holding his own. Groundball and K rates look good, the stats say that he just needs to work on his changeup because while RHB are hitting only .216 against him, LHB tune him up at .332.
BA had him ranked above both Poveda and Ross in the handbook and had this to say:
Gomez’s athletic frame and clean, easy arm action evoke Ervin Santana. He has good command of a 88-93 fastball with sink and run and his 75-78 three quarters breaking ball projects as a plus offering…Coaches rave about his makeup…very popular in the clubhouse…defenders love playing behind him because he works quickly…
Hindman has him at #16 and has this to say:
His arsenal features a high-80’s / low-90’s two-seam fastball with absolutely wicked late movement and a strong bender. Don’t get too caught up in the numbers he’s posted in Bakersfield (2-7; 4.82 ERA). The Cal League is not terribly friendly to pitchers who rely on movement.
I didn’t vote him here, and I’m not sure when I will start voting him, but I just wanted to throw his name in the mix because he’s a pretty good looking pitching prospect that hasn’t been talked about at all.
There's more to the picture than meets the eye.
And I think this shows the problem with choosing a guy to vote for in this area.
There are so many B-/C+ guys in this system that choosing one over another at this point is tough.
Every guy I think of I can find another to compare him to who maybe could be a little better.
It’s wide open at this point.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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by thedirkatron on Jul 19, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
And Beltre & all the other hitters.
I suppose we as Ranger fans are conditioned to always value pitching, but…
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"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
To a pt
Right now I would not trade away Smoak in any deal (realistically, I mean if the Jays said Smoak for Hallday sure, but that WONT happen). I would trade Holland, Feliz, or Perez before Smoak (not just because of the hitting struggles that is just who i think is the most valuble). I supremely believe that by the middle of 2011 the elder statesman in our rotation will be Feldman.
There are going to be 40 man roster crunches coming up soon, I just hope the Rangers choose the right guys to deal.
by Michael Cave on Jul 19, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I more meant from this point in the voting forward.
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"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
I'm glad you aren't calling the shots
I would trade Holland, Feliz, or Perez before Smoak (not just because of the hitting struggles that is just who i think is the most valuble).
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Jul 20, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
i like them all too much to vote for just one!
cant i vote for them all, because really aren’t they all winners??
But to be serious, I went boscan. Probably between poveda/beltre next then moreland and gomez
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
I guess im not as high
on Gomez as other ppl but he isnt in my top 20, most likely barely making the top 25
by Michael Cave on Jul 19, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
once it gets into this territory it starts to get like that
outside of the top 15-18 everything starts getting even more divided.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Moreland campaigning for your vote
2B, HR, 5 RBI tonight
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
You don't vote...
for someone in these polls based off what they are doing in today’s game.
I know MM has been tearing it up lately, but for me at least, Boscan and Poveda are ahead of him.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
beltre for me now
moreland/boscan/povteda next (not sure for what order
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 19, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Should Evan Reed be added to the poll yet?
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 19, 2009 10:06 PM CDT reply actions
23 year old reliever repeating A+.
No, thanks.
The ERA is nice and the sexy K-rate (12/9) keep him interesting, but the walks (5.5/9) are a huge concern.
He’s a person of interest, but I hesitate to dub him a prospect at this point.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jul 19, 2009 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Beau Jones?
Walk rate (6+) and BABIP (.419) have hurt him this year, but he’s missing bats and given up just 1 bomb.
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by inactive lsb user on Jul 20, 2009 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions
didnt he just get sent down to bakersfield?
by blueballlefty on Jul 20, 2009 3:14 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't understand what they've been doing with him.
I just know that he hasn’t exactly played behind stellar defenses.
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by inactive lsb user on Jul 20, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe because a pitcher playing behind his defenses
raises some eyebrows in the organization
Go Rice Owls!
Heh
goofed that.
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by inactive lsb user on Jul 20, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Its really hard to throw strikes from the warning track.
"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09
by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 20, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Reed
He’s doing it in the Cal League, and he’s got a ridiculous ground ball rate.
Go look at BP’s peak translation for him.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 20, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
He's no more ridiculous
than some of the other names already up there.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
Yeah the walks bother me
I do see him as a prospect though.
by Brett Perryman on Jul 20, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Did Dirk give up after 15?
Its almost 2 pm on the east coast and no #16 yet
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Sorry, been busy all day. Just got some comp time.
Thought I’d get free before now for sure.
I’m throwing the new one up right now.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jul 20, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
thanks for big timing me on my email, Hollywood
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Jul 20, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Ha ha, did you get my reply?
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Jul 20, 2009 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions
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