Thursday morning Rangers stuff
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 2, 2009 8:07 AM CDT
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Off day today, and you have to feel, well, not terrible about things right now. I hate to think what the mood would have been like if we'd blown that 7-1 lead last night and lost.
Jeff Wilson says the Rangers were glad Mike Scioscia opted to pitch to Hank Blalock, who had been in a pretty big slump before yesterday's game, in the 9th, rather than pitching around him and going after Julio Borbon. I will say that in that situation, where a hit wins the game, there's probably not that big a difference between pitching to Blalock, who has hit for power but not for average this season, and Borbon, who profiles as a good hitter for average with less power.
Evan Grant says last night's game was more reminiscent of the pre-2009 Rangers, with weird plays, a bullpen collapse and lots of offense.
Vicente Padilla has been scratched from his start on Saturday, due to a sore shoulder. Derek Holland will take his place.
Dustin Nippert could be activated and return to the Rangers after just one more rehab appearance. The question then, of course, is who is removed from the 40 man roster and the 25 man roster to make room for Nippert.
The Rangers bullpen has a new talisman, courtesy of Jason Grilli.
Mike Bauman writes that the Rangers are legitimate contenders.
Jim Reeves says that Kevin Millwood deserves to be in the All Star Game.
The S-T has a piece on Kasey Kiker.
Evan Grant says that the response to reports that the Rangers have had to borrow $15 million from MLB to make payroll has been "no comment."
Mike Heika reports that Tom Hicks has folded the marketing group he had formed for the purpose of marketing the Stars and Rangers.
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Thing about pitching to Blalock is that there's no way Wash would've let Borbon hit with the game on the line
Knowing how much he likes to rely on “veterans” in clutch situations like that, he probably would’ve gone to Andruw, and Speier has chopped up right-handed hitters this year (and gotten chopped up by lefties).
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 2, 2009 8:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
thats what confuses me the most
there was a .000001% chance borbon was allowed to hit in that situation, and if he is — would you rather pitch to borbon than blalock in ANY situation?
not only why would you pick hank over borbon, and why would you rather take your chances with hank over borbon (rookie) or jones (RH batter, who speier has killed)
i just…dont…get it
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 2, 2009 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they meant to pitch around Hank
and see if he would chase something out of the strike zone. The pitch was a mistake. The catcher was set up way outside and had to come back in over the plate before Hank hammered it.
by jcAustin on Jul 2, 2009 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely possible.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 2, 2009 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
Did Jones come out on deck? I didn’t see him…I’m guessing that Borbon hits in that situation.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 2, 2009 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is Wash we're talking about
I’d have ate my hat if he’d have let Borbon hit with the game on the line.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 2, 2009 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
a TINY chance he would have let him hit
was fuentes warming up when the HR was hit?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 2, 2009 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, if he knew what Speier's lefty/rightly split was he might have let him hit.
But even so, with Wash veteran experience usually trumps splits. And after all, people probably would’ve gotten on him had he let the rookie bat in that situation…
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 2, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure what would have
happened, but i was hoping he would leave Borbon in. Rather see him there than Andruw.
by jcAustin on Jul 2, 2009 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two outs...
Jones would only come out if he was for-sure going to bat.
If Blalock would have made an out, the inning would end and Wash would want to keep Borbon in the field, and possibly PH for him to start the next inning.
by Trickman on Jul 2, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Borbon was on deck the whole time
Yet I glanced over to the top of the dugout where all the players were standing and didn’t see Jones. Maybe he was standing nearby Wash just in case?
That's not hail you see in Frisco....that just Justin Smoak's Home Runs coming back into orbit....
by Smoak Some on Jul 2, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Main, Hicks
Everyone be sure to look at the fanshot about Main today, apparently they can’t diagnose his illness. That’s freaky.
This Hicks debt crap is really starting to worry me. This is the first year I’ve been worried about them being able to go overslot and sign their draft picks. I’m not surprised the team is silent, though.
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by t ball on Jul 2, 2009 8:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
signing draft picks is my concern also
I think they will sign Purke and Scheppers but some of the lower round guys won’t be signed due to money.
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by RangerMad on Jul 2, 2009 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm worried
I don’t see how we can expect to bust slot to get our top 2 guys signed when MLB is having to float loans to cover payroll.
There's more to the picture than meets the eye.
by tricer on Jul 2, 2009 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it is probable that
the Rangers and MLB agreed on a set amount of money to be used for bonuses. If the Rangers go above slot for Scheppers and Purke, that will leave less money for lower round picks.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jul 2, 2009 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the fact that the fucking team cant cover payroll
is frusterating as hell
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 2, 2009 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
im not really concerned
about Purke and Scheppers. I agree with RM above that this really hurts our ability to sign some of our lower picks which totally blows the whole high ceiling possibly high bonus demands philosophy out of the water. I wonder if the people conducting the draft would go back and draft differently if this had happened a week or two prior to the draft.
by Michael Cave on Jul 2, 2009 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's just maddening
that Hicks is screwing us the fans once again. We are finally building something special and now we have this cloud over the team again. The sooner that guy is out the better for all of us.
It just sucks that it’s come to this. What an idiot!
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by kentbenfer on Jul 2, 2009 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I think it will be very nice if after he sells the team the value of the franchise just skyrockets as the Rangers set up a dynasty. And hicks will not benefit at all. I just hope someone buys the team who is committed to winning.
by Michael Cave on Jul 2, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
because yes
it was reasonable to expect hicks to be clairvoyant and know the economy was going to turn to shit and that his British bank was going to recall the loan early when he wasn’t in a position to pay off his debt. You can blame Hicks for lots of things but not seeing this a year or two ago can’t be one of them.
by Hull Fan on Jul 2, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
It was greed that drove this and people should have seen this coming for a long time.
Hopefully the new owner will get in and get the hell out of the way.
"Thank God for Feldman." - Ron Washington to Eric Nadel, August 2008
by kentbenfer on Jul 2, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my ass
he an over-leverage idiot who tried to buy the world with credit cards that he has no way of paying for. He has over a billion dollars leveraged against assets value at 1.3B which he cant sell for that value and doesnt have the liquidity to pay his bills
he is the, “Im in debt up to my eyeballs” guy from the tv ads.
and he just spent 25M bucks on a Right Back for LFC.
fuck that guy
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Jul 2, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ignorance is bliss.
Plenty of people saw the economic downturn coming from far away.
Plenty of people also fired consultants who warned them of such failings coming along because it was against the “collective intelligence of the market.”
Ignorance is bliss in the business world, particularly for big owners.
by Trickman on Jul 2, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly...
Fuck Tom Hicks
and im borderline fuck the guy on here who always says tom hicks has plenty of money and has no intentions or actually selling the team
by Horns130 on Jul 2, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How much have the D'Backs borrowed from MLB?
They haven’t been shy about signing high end draftees.
by Redcaps on Jul 2, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point
but it just seems like it would be a case of driving a Cadillac to go to the Welfare office and collect a check. If I was MLB, I’d say if you don’t have any money, you don’t have any money and we ain’t covering your payroll while watching you bust our slot recommendations.
There's more to the picture than meets the eye.
by tricer on Jul 2, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
im pretty sure they dont give the league like 10+% of their profits every season to the league
so that when they need funds theyre fuct.
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Jul 2, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Until they don't sign those guys, I'm still going to believe that they have the money available to sign them
Again, what has changed from the day of the draft and now? Hicks hasn’t gotten any more money and the financial situation doesn’t look any better or worse now then it did then. And it seems like if the Rangers are getting money from MLB, its only to help them cover their ML team’s payroll needs (we keep hearing about being unable to take on any more payroll at the deadline) and isn’t preventing them from making LA or draft signings. That Kennedy guy on XM said that MLB has a fund set up for this type of case, so it isn’t some special situation which means that MLB probably still has no control over what they do with their draft picks.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
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-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jul 2, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's like me asking you to cover my lunch money
while you watch me go out and buy a big HD TV. Why would you foot the bill for my regular expenses, knowing that I am splurging on discretionary things.
I hope you’re right, but it doesn’t seem right that the team can’t cover payroll, but has millions laying around for big ticket amatuers.
There's more to the picture than meets the eye.
by tricer on Jul 2, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its Major League Baseball
These are the same people that let Loria stick around to profit.
From the little bit of info out there, it sounds to me like the MLB fund thing has a set of rules which would allow a loophole like that to exist.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jul 2, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
some of the lower round guys won’t be signed due to money.
I thought they’d signed many of these guys already…
Andrew Doyle was the main name lingering, and he’s been outspoken about his signability.
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by hightowersmith on Jul 2, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
“I’m just sitting here, waiting to be diagnosed and wondering what I’ve got,” Main said Tuesday. “It hasn’t been that scary, because the doctors said they were pretty sure it wasn’t life-threatening. But I can’t really do much here except throw a little. I should be out playing.”
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 2, 2009 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
International signings start today...
Right?
by N41D on Jul 2, 2009 8:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You don't think there's a difference between pitching to a veteran guy who has an OPS of .907 versus RHP's this season vs. pitching to a wide-eyed rook in that sort of situation?
Man, I gotta say, I think you’re dead wrong here.
I thought that was one of the more horribly obvious i-walks I’ve seen in a long, long time.
I get that a single is just as good as a double there, and that Borbon profiles long term as the kind of guy who’s prolly just as likely to get a single there as Hank, but I don’t know that that’s the point.
Over the course of their careers maybe Borbon will turn into the kind of hitter who is just as (or more) likely to get a hit in that situation as Hank is, but in that particular situation I don’t think it’s close.
Plus Hank had been hitting the ball really well last night. You think you’d pitch around him and face the slap hitting rook just for that.
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by thedirkatron on Jul 2, 2009 8:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
maye they were trying
to pitch around him but Spieier miss his spot.
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by RangerMad on Jul 2, 2009 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blalock
Hitting .261 against RHPs this season.
Has a tendency to over-swing and chase bad pitches.
So yeah, Scioscia probably told Speier to throw him stuff out of the zone and try to get him to chase it, rather than intentionally walk him.
But given the circumstances, I think Blalock v. Borbon is probably a coin flip.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 2, 2009 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In case of a coin flip
give me the rookie, every time.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 2, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that Scioscia probably told Speier to throw the ball out of the zone
and that’s confirmed when you look at where the catcher was set up and where the pitch was thrown.
To say Blalock v Borbon is “probably a coin flip” is definitely shtick.
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by Josey Wales on Jul 2, 2009 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
uh no it isnt when all you need is a single
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on Jul 2, 2009 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
1st base open
rookie on deck.
I thought it was a no brainer. Set up a force at any base, and pitch to a rookie, rather than a guy who has touched you up for a double and a HR.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 2, 2009 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
the world is surely coming to an end, this is like the 5th time in 2 days i have agreed with cahill lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 2, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, it isn't
Blalock has morphed into a low-average power hitter.
Borbon has limited power, but he can hit for average.
I’d say the chances of either of those guys getting a hit in that situation is at least even.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 2, 2009 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Adam
That’s asinine and derived solely from your feelings about Blalock never reaching his potential.
Borbon gets a lot of infield hits (which were not going to score Young from 2B).
Borbon was also 1 for 5 as he stood in the on-deck circle.
Blalock, a notoriously streaky hitter, was hitting the ball very well last night.
To say it was a coin-flip is among the silliest things ever written in here.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 2, 2009 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you are saying it's not a coin flip because...
…the guy who doesn’t hit for average was hitting for average so they should have thrown to the other guy who hits for average? Donuts, you are a ruh-tard.
by FuturePants on Jul 2, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As fans of Kris Davis (hitting .148 v leftys this year) can attest to, what you do in the minor leagues
doesn’t always translate to The Show.
Borbon had one ground ball with eyes for a hit in 5 plate appearances.
Nobody really knows what he is right now in The Show but a lot of his hits come from infield hits that he legs out (which wasn’t going to score the average running Young).
In his career (which is much more than the 5 ab’s Borbon has) Hank F Blalock has 18 HR & 91 RBI in 282 at bats with a .326 batting average.
He has so many RBI in those situations because his slugging % in those situations is .603 (1039 OPS),
Coin-flip, my ass.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 2, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Should read
In his career as a hitter with a runner on 2B, Hank F Blalock has 18 HR & 91 RBI in 282 at bats with a .326 batting average.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 2, 2009 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So what you mean is...
You’d rather pitch to one slumping guy over a second slumping guy? Still not well-conceived.
by FuturePants on Jul 2, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blalock
had the red ass last night and was knocking the tar out of the ball.
To equate him to a slap hitting rookie with 5 career ab’s in The Show at any time would be silly but to say it was a “coin flip” last night is totally irrational.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 2, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So nights where Davis hits a HR are nights that you would pitch around him?
I know your answer is no, so Donuts, your whole line of reasoning is just stupid.
by FuturePants on Jul 2, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Precisely.
The fact that Hank Blalock had homered off of Jered Weaver earlier in the game should have little to no pull in whether you let Justin Speier pitch to him. It’s a totally different situation.
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by ghtd36 on Jul 2, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HR and a Double earlier.
I think its safe to say he was seeing the ball pretty well last night.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 2, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And more importantly
it was a right handed pitcher.
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by t ball on Jul 2, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't disagree with you.
I just think Josey Donuts’ ability to explain his reasoning is lacking.
by FuturePants on Jul 2, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His reasoning in this particular case
is so straightforward that it really shouldn’t require much, if any, explanation.
There's more to the picture than meets the eye.
by tricer on Jul 2, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
By ground ball with eyes...
I assume you mean line drive up the middle?
by Horns130 on Jul 2, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blalock reached his potential several years ago
He has just chosen to play below it this entire season due to an absurd, selfish, swing from the heels and go for the fences
Every.
Single.
Swing.
approach. He hasn’t lost his power to kill a mistake pitch, he’s just lost his ability to hit anything BUT a mistake pitch. To date this season, he’s gotten mistake pitches in roughly 24.5% of his at-bats. He certainly got one in the 9th, and good on him for jumping all over it.
"He struck him out swinging! Hello no-hitter number seven!" - Mark Holtz
by ryan_xpress on Jul 2, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is the thing about it
In the bottom of the ninth (or 10th, 11th, etc), where one hit can win the game, things like OPS go out the window. You aren’t worried about the home run, or the walk, or anything else. You’re worried about a hit. Batting average becomes the key statistic.
Frankly, if you need an out, Blalock is one of the better Rangers to be facing (obviously, Salty and Davis are the ideal ones to face when you really need an out, but Blalock is right up there).
Yeah, Borbon is a rookie, but he’s also an unknown. Blalock is a known “easy out”. I understand the decision to pitch to him.
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Jul 2, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it was asinine
but it worked for the Rangers, so what the Heck.
With 1B open, and a rookie on deck, I’d definitely take my chances pitching to Borbon.
The only way I pitch to Hank is with a lefty on the mound.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 2, 2009 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, its not really assinine.
I’ve lost count of how many times Blalock has been at the plate, in a situation where a solid single will end the game, and he K’s by swinging for the fence.
"Thats all we got? One goddamned hit?" - Harry Doyle
"You cant say god damn on the radio."- Colorman
"Ehhh, who cares...nobody's listening!"- Harry Doyle
by awillis111 on Jul 2, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
.326 lifetime average with a runner on 2B in The Show
Simply asinine to believe it was a “coin flip.”
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 2, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok,
but look up this split: RISP, 2 outs, Bot 9th, tie game
I’d be willing to bet that BA falls dramatically
"Thats all we got? One goddamned hit?" - Harry Doyle
"You cant say god damn on the radio."- Colorman
"Ehhh, who cares...nobody's listening!"- Harry Doyle
by awillis111 on Jul 2, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah
but his OPS when there are RISP, late in a tie game, against AL West teams facing pitchers with initials J. S., in months ending in ‘Y’, and game starting temperature was above 97 degrees is now probably 5.000.
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Jul 2, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That doesn't matter
OPS at that point in the game doesn’t matter :D
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jul 2, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's good against righties
that’s for sure.
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by t ball on Jul 2, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hicks
Its frustrating to think where we are headed… And I would rather not switch owners from Hicks to Whoever… But it needs to happen, to make the mess go away, to sign the draft picks, ect.
Sell 70% of the team for 450 Mill, use that as leverage to refinance and pay off loans in the US, NOT YOUR LIVERPOOL LOANS, and if you wanna buy the team back later then go for it. It will be a lot of cash for the team, lots of new capitol, and when you have your shit together, come on back and lets finish what you started a couple years ago.
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by PM Productions on Jul 2, 2009 8:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
the whole franchise isnt worth 450M nevermind 70%
which is the crux of the problem
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Jul 2, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep,
while someone may make an offer for the Rangers, its not going to be at a $650 million valuation in this market.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 2, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hick's valuation of the rangers is
Stopping an ownership change, not b/c it’s too high, but b/c it’s not in line with what a bank is willing to loan to a potential investor to purchase us. Which means either a sheik from Arabia paying cash or sum1 rich enough that the banks won’t bat an eye lash to on a loan. Makes it tough
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Jul 2, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if this money BS keeps us from signing both schweppers and purke
i think my head might explode.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 2, 2009 8:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You won't be the only one.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 2, 2009 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a chance
Signing those two guys, even over slot, only enhances the economic value of the franchise. I’m guessing the Rangers get everyone signed.
One of the things Hicks will do when marketing the organization to buyers is telling them “#1 farm system in baseball so your investment will continue to profit long term.” Can’t quit building the farm now.
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
by WyoRanger on Jul 2, 2009 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
umm
if the money is not there, how can they sign them? i agree with your sentiment about the farm system being a major selling point, but I don’t see how that affects their ability to sign guys who want more money than they have to spend.
What we’ll see, especially if Blalock heats up, is the selling off of veterans to try to make the money work. Getting Teix, Gagne and Lofton off the books helped fund the great influx of ‘07. We’ll see who gets sent out this year.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Jul 2, 2009 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spending money you don't have is the American way!
It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca
by bioaggie on Jul 2, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Hicks' way
I agree that if he simply can’t afford something you can’t afford it but if it’s a good investment, Hicks will find the money.
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
by WyoRanger on Jul 2, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is the timing of the payments
for draft signees? Maybe they can negotiate a pro-rated bonus.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jul 2, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
for major league contracts
I think they can pay the money whenever they want.
For minor league deals, I think the bonus has to be upfront, with an exception for “two-sport atheletes” (I guess guys with a scholarship offer in football or basketball as well). I remember reading something along those lines about why the Padres were able to draft Donovan Tate, who otherwise would be too expensive for a team with far less financial flexibility than Texas.
If this is how it works out, it wouldn’t surprise me if Scheppers got a major league deal for this reason alone.
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Jul 2, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
if that’s what it takes, why wouldn’t a guy like Scheppers get a ML deal?
Please, don’t reply with crap about the 40, anybody.
"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem
by Chase Irwin on Jul 2, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Angels lost this one
more than the Rangers won it. They were total boneheads on the bases, although I’ll credit the Rangers (Salty, Murphy etc…) for taking advantage of their gaffs.
by jcAustin on Jul 2, 2009 8:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The game should never have been that close even so I wouldn't say the Angels lost it more than the Rangers won it
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
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by Gdawg on Jul 2, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure I understand Hicks' situation
is he going broke or is his money just tied up in non-liquid assets to where he can’t meet operating expenses? I’m pretty sure it’s the latter, but you’d think that he wouldn’t have bought Liverpool if he was already worried.
Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball
by willamos2 on Jul 2, 2009 9:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He can't cover the interest on his loans.
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
by WyoRanger on Jul 2, 2009 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Check that - not interest
Can’t meet his loan repayment schedule
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
by WyoRanger on Jul 2, 2009 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of companies
were loading up on leverage a year ago, and buying things assuming the economy would be in good shape.
Then the Mortgage crisis blew up our financial system, and cash flow isn’t enough to service debt.
He’s not the only one in this ditch.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 2, 2009 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wouldn't/shouldn't
Hicks just sell the team then (or Liverpool) even if it’s not for a great price? I have to think that he’ll make plenty on the Rangers from what he paid for them over a decade ago.
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by willamos2 on Jul 2, 2009 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think there isn't a line of buyers.
Most of America has been running on borrowed money since the 80s. Its a tough time to lay your hands on enough borrowed money to make the deal, and not many folks have the half billion or so liquid that Hicks wants.
I’m sure someone will do the deal eventually, but I’m sure they are going to try to knock the price closer to the quarter billion that Hicks bought it for.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 2, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buyers
Theres buyers for Liverpool, Hicks just isn’t selling.
Rumor was a few months ago he could have flipped them for a decent profit to the Dubai investment group but had no interest in selling yet his partner Gillette did.
Now that Gillete has sold the Canadians it looks like all the eggs are going into the Liverpool basket.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jul 2, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it was a rumor
I think that’s why Hicks and Gillette have had a falling out.
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
by WyoRanger on Jul 2, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was
I said rumor because I dont remember if it was ever flat out confirmed that the offer was more than they paid.
But for a while those two werent even talking and now Gillettes gone and sold one of the most storied nhl franchises
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jul 2, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeez.....Our rotation now with Padilla out is
Millwood
Feldman
Hunter
Holland
and if Pads stays out for a while…..who’s the 5th?
by jcAustin on Jul 2, 2009 9:05 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What is the timetable for the garbage from somebody else's front yard
aka Ichabod McCarthy ?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 2, 2009 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moscoso
Or god forbid, Mathis.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 2, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like they're readying Nippert...
His schedule is rounding out to every fifth day, and he’s gone longer and longer. Newberg put this in a report this week, in case it sounds like original reportage here.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jul 2, 2009 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, I was wondering about this when he reported that
but now it makes sense.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Jul 2, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So anyone want to discuss the closer situation?
Is it safe to say CJ is our man?
we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"
by eclou on Jul 2, 2009 9:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Until Frankie gets his control back, I should hope so
I think CJ might’ve been at the best I’ve ever seen him this June.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 2, 2009 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Old School Brutha declared last night before the game about Frank Frank
“He’s back.”
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 2, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
CJ looked great; not only was Frankie’s location off but his velocity was down – hitting 92 tops. Bottom line: the two outs he got were lucky, lucky outs. The Rangers are also lucky that Blalock’s two run shot didn’t simply tie the game.
by FuturePants on Jul 2, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lets hold off there for a second eclou
Frankie has been dominate all year EXCEPT when overused and used incorrectly. I love CJ here more than most and he has been GREAT lately, but even I canot overlook what 2Frank has done this year. Had he not been used (and even CJ) Tuesday night in 6 RUN BLOWOUT GAME, then he comes out with better stuff tonight. He hasnt looked all that great from coming of the DL the second time and there is no reason he needs to be pitching back to back, ESPECIALLY in a 6 run game on tuesday.
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
by thad728 on Jul 2, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't get me wrong, we would not be here if it were not for Frankie earlier
CJ, Darren, etc all understand and want Frankie healthy too. The problem is that he is clearly not healthy. He is being pitched when he needs to heal. When he is 100% then yes put him back as a closer. Until then, why put his shoulder at risk? He is heading towards a season-ending injury at this rate.
we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"
by eclou on Jul 2, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im with you.
If he is not 100%, there is no reason for him to be your “go to guy” in the 9th
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
by thad728 on Jul 2, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree. 2 Frank
looked gassed last night, and like he didn’t think he could get those guys out.
by jcAustin on Jul 2, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
play the hot hand
they have essentially been doing that since Cordero left. Neither Frankie or Wilson have enough skins on the wall to be the de facto closer, so just stick the guy in who has been hot lately. Fantasy owners will just have to deal.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Jul 2, 2009 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that last night
was more a case of Frankie being used on back-to-back nights and him not getting a couple calls. I know that the Strike Zone on TV is not 100% accurate but he was getting hosed on a couple calls to Abreu and Hunter. If those calls are reversed it’s a different story today.
"Thank God for Feldman." - Ron Washington to Eric Nadel, August 2008
by kentbenfer on Jul 2, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i do think the back to back nights were a factor as well
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 2, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baseball Prospectus said that the Old School Brutha's management of his bully
was his biggest weakness this year.
I’m not sure he’s overcome it and that (along with his general incompetence) is something this team is trying to outrun.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 2, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rangers 4th in MLB in bullpen WPA
which would seem to indicate they are being leveraged well. They were 11th last year and 7th in 2007. This might be the best since 2004.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jul 2, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously pure speculation...
…but it seemed to me that Washington left the starter in too long in games 1 and 3 vs. the Angels this week.
by FuturePants on Jul 2, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hard to fault him on Padilla
because it happened so fast.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 2, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Happened fast with Millwood, too.
That’s not really my point.
by FuturePants on Jul 2, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those were our veteran starters
They weren’t going to leave a decent outing with 90 pitches.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
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-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jul 2, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Frankie's performance at the end of last year and before he got hurt this year is some pretty good skins, myself
He should get the job back once he proves he’s healthy, and in command of his pitches. CJ is on quite a roll, but at some point I have a feeling he’ll fall back to earth sooner or later, as he has in the past.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 2, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the CJ we should expect
The one we’ve seen sometimes in the past is the one that wasn’t healthy. As long as he’s healthy, he’s going to be able to dominate like he has this season or like he did in 2007.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jul 2, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
People have expected this CJ in the past, and been sorely dissapointed
Lets not forget he was pretty horrible at the beginning of this year, and perfectly healthy too.
I think the real CJ is something in between April 2009 CJ and June 2009 CJ. A streaky, but overall effective late-inning lefty who sometimes has trouble getting right-handed batters out.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 2, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He wasn't pretty horrible
He had some bad outings that were in large part due to defensive issues and some lucky hits. He’s showing some better command of his fastball now, but he still wasn’t doing horribly then.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jul 2, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think CJ
is an under the radar AS candidate.
He’s been great this year.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 2, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't have the saves to make it to the AS Game
And while he’s been great, he still hasn’t been that great to deserve to make the AS Game
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jul 2, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zimmerman deservedly made it back in 98 and was a set-up man
for Wetteland.
CJ has bumped back n forth b/w set-up & closer this year so it’s not his fault the save numbers aren’t there.
A couple of good outings v. TBay this weekend might help because Madden is the AS manager.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 2, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the problem with taking CJ
is that he is not the best LHP RP in the AL right now, non traditional closer category — that is JP Howell
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 2, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree its not his fault, but that won't make much of a difference in the end
And just look at some of the other RP around the league. Looking at Fangraphs WAR for relief pitchers, Wilson’s having a nice season, but has been worth about half of what the top relievers have this season. There are just more deserving players than CJ and I say that without having anything against CJ, its just the facts.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jul 2, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You may be right
but there are a lot of relief candidates, he probably doesn’t get in.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jul 2, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He had a 6.52 ERA for April, and opposing batter hit .300/.404/.475 off him.
He’s been lights out since then, but he was struggling pretty bad with his command in April.
Like I said, he’s streaky. Overall I don’t think he’s neither here nor there – he’s the type of guy who can look bad for a month, and then shut people down for a month. The key is using him accordingly when he goes through period where he doesn’t have his best stuff.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 2, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
CJ's #'s
got killed by that outing in Detroit (when Tiny E made a critical error).
I’m not gonna look it up but I think in the Baltimore game that month he should have been out of the inning because his defense let him down…but after April – wow!
22 games, 3 earned runs total.
Given Frank’s injury (and I have no confidence in him being 100% healthy again this year), CJ Wilson has been one of our MVPs.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 2, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He had his 2 worst games of the season in April
It happens for a reliever. Again, the defense didn’t always show up well for him early on and in those 2 worst games, like I said above, it was a lot of weak hits that killed him. Again, that happens and its why you don’t kneejerk when a reliever has a bad month.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jul 2, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He probably won't make it because he's so far under the radar
but a lefty who is dropping mid 90’s gas out of the pen is a devastating weapon.
He is one of our MVPs this season.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 2, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed he is one of our MVP's
no doubt he could close for any team in the majors the way he has been pitching. I would not be surprised if some of the deeper pocket teams try to pick him up for next season
we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"
by eclou on Jul 2, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's been a key to the team's success this season
But right now, I can’t say that CJ has exactly separated himself from O’Day and FX2 in their value to this team out of the bullpen. Pretty much, if CJ is one of our MVPs, then we have at least 8 or 9 MVPs.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jul 2, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 2, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For the most part
we have had at least 2 guys in the pen all year that are going well at any pt in time. I think that has been the key. knock on wood but we havent had many times that we simply do not have anyone in the pen that can get anyone out.
by Michael Cave on Jul 2, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's not a bad thing either!
we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"
by eclou on Jul 2, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
FX2
hasn’t been right since the dipshit manager had him work three nights in a row in early May.
CJ has been available all year.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 2, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And we were having such a nice chat about baseball
Oh well, it lasted as long as it could.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jul 2, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love a healthy FrankX
almost as much as I love CJ.
CJ was also mismanaged (see game where Cabrera hit dinger after CJ threw 27 pitchers 16 hours earlier) this year by the Old School Brutha.
It’s a constant this team is trying to outrun.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 2, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've said it before
and I’ll say it again. Hicks is the worst thing to ever happen to this franchise. Hopefully he’ll sell off, lick the sizeable wounds on his ego, and fade into obscurity.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Jul 2, 2009 9:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not sure where you were in 2004, Clark
but I was at the front of that parade back then and slowly but surely was proven correct. It was a tough sell back then.
I don’t know if Tom Hicks is the worst thing to happen to this thing but he’s been the biggest hurdle to clear in the last 6 years.
In the micro view, this year has been great because the team has outplayed expectations but the much better news is that Tom Hicks is being forced to sell the team.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 2, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What makes you think that another owner or ownership group is suddenly going to start bankrolling the team at a much higher rate?
The last ownership group managed to let Brown and Rogers walk because they didn’t have the money to spend on them.
by Redcaps on Jul 2, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's not even the worst owner we've had, much less the worst thing to happen....
I’m ready to see him go ASAP, but I think a little historical perspective is in order.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Jul 2, 2009 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And one of Hicks' more ardent supporters (bking)
checks in.
Short wasn’t here long enough but wasn’t going to do well. Chiles was bad but Hicks is worse.
Corbett had issues but nobody ever questioned his desire to win.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 2, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When Hicks starts signing HS pitchers and throwing them in the rotation just to draw fans...
THEN I’ll rank him above Chiles and Short.
BTW, it’s good to know that my calling you on your blatant lies (and proven lies as well) makes me such a Hicks fanboy. Don’t ever lose that petulant tool persona – we’d be lost without the fodder.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Jul 2, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bking
when did I lie?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 2, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Throughout the original Forbes debate...
and I have ALL the old NMLR logs, so I suggest you just move along..
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Jul 2, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Having an opinion later proved to be wrong
or misreading/not understanding information is different than lying.
I’m not moving along, bking.
If I lied, let’s see it.
My understanding is that Hicks slashed player expenses ($ 81 to $ 73 million?) after 2004 despite the nice bump in revenue (buoyed by the raise in attendance/game of 5000+) and then decided to raise ticket prices & parking.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 2, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Josey I posted these numbers a few days ago
On Forbes it says that revenues only went up 2 million dollars from 04-05 yet player payroll went up 13 million.
I don’t know where you are getting your numbers from, other than The Ticket, but I think you are wrong on this topic
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jul 2, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to bail on this and actually work this afternoon
but my recollection is that the payroll stayed at $ 55 million from 04-05 but revenues climbed from $ 142 million to $ 155 million. Check out my memory.
That fall on The Ticket Hicks was bragging about the Rangers being “Very, very profitable.”
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 2, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I have to bail on this and actually work this afternoon"
Of course you do
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jul 2, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And now every "fact" he trumpeted ad nauseum...
is just his “recollection”.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Jul 2, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why would I be afraid to look at what bking has on NMLLR
from 2005?
I was at the forefront all by myself telling the world how Hicks’ failure to add on to that team was a terrible, terrible red flag for our future – AND I WAS RIGHT.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 2, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did I say something about that?
I just thought it was interesting that you said you have to go do work today. That you still are posting right now and your mind went straight towards what bking said earlier is just another interesting tidbit.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jul 2, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too bad
y’all can’t go back to NMLR to settle this discussion. All the jackasses over there who argue nonstop with Josey were the reason I left there, and unfortunately the idiots just come over here.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 2, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
That's odd
because one of my favorite posters at LSB is DJCahill.
Enlightening, optimistic, knowledgable, progressive, exciting, open-minded, phenomenal conversationalist and nuanced thinking per all things Great Game are among the many descriptions I subscribe to when thinking about DJCahill.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 2, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
can't speak for Dan
But my point in agreeing with him doesn’t have as much to do with you, as it has to do with others in response to you.
There's more to the picture than meets the eye.
by tricer on Jul 2, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that was 03-04
Because payroll went up from 55 million to 68 million in 05 and revenues only went up 2 million.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jul 2, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Payroll didn't go up to $ 68 million until '06, bigsteve.
Little Boy Donuts got a 21% bump in money to work with and decided to sign Millwood and trade Soriano, CYoung & AG for a ton of shit.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 2, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok I had my years mixed up
The fact remains payroll went up 13 mil and revenues only went up 2
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jul 2, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"worst thing to ever happen"
was probably hyperbolic, but he has done significant damage. His shenanigans early on (throwing money around at ill-fitting veterans who were past their prime and paying $100m over market to get A-Rod when the team had no foundation and was nowhere near contention), coupled with his current money problems just at the time when his team is in position to contend and desparately needs financial flexibility, would be poetic justice if I didn’t care about the team so much.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Jul 2, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You all had better wish I keep posting fanposts
about how this team is through and that they should play for 2010 by trading off all their veterans.
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Jul 2, 2009 9:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Seemed to work
"He struck him out swinging! Hello no-hitter number seven!" - Mark Holtz
by ryan_xpress on Jul 2, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone besides me expect to hear the Milly is hurt??
I might be making something out of nothing, but I noticed last night that he was cruising until he reached down to nab a low throw from Salty during the Aybar AB in the 7th, grimaced as he readied himself for the next pitch, and then proceeded to have a micro-implosion.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Jul 2, 2009 9:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he wasn't cruising . . .
he had to pitch out of trouble almost every inning.
"A good start would be not giving up 900 runs again." -Jon Daniels
by Randy Richardson on Jul 2, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Out of pocket last night so all I've seen were highlights
but Millwood had a Game Score of 42 meaning he couldn’t have been very good and was more likely trying to fight thru it without his best stuff.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 2, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His velocity
was down a bit but the action on his pitches was very good. 2-seamer was moving and CB was waterfall like a few times.
by Michael Cave on Jul 2, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Prior to the point I was referencing...
His line was 6.1 IP, 5H, 1ER, 2BB, 5K, 94 PIT
after that:
0 IP, 3H, 3ER, 1BB, 0K, 10PIT
So, I’d say he was dealing pretty well prior to the Aybar AB.
NOTE: Pitch counts approx., as I don’t recall exactly which pitches followed the Salty toss I was referring to.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Jul 2, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he was battling the ump all night
i think he finally let it get to him in his last inning.
el foldo
by SteveP on Jul 2, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe so, but his pitch count was pretty management through 6
Right around 90 thru 6 works out to 15 pitches per inning. Not great, but not horrible either. I still think he tweaked something in the 7th, but maybe I’m overreading what I saw.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Jul 2, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
pretty management???? WTF???
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Jul 2, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He looked pissed.
He looked downright mad about the call he deserved to get on Aybar.
by Trickman on Jul 2, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was obviously gassed in the 7th.
Wash shouldn’t have left him in to face Hunter. Prior to the train wreck inning, he’d had his troubles but kept managing to get out of them. He didn’t look hurt though.
by Athos on Jul 2, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rank, in order, the possible dire consequences of Hicks' current financial fiasco
From least dire to most dire (factoring in probablity of them happening):
A) Failure to sign Purke and Scheppers for above slot, costing us two potential front of the rotation starters
B) Failure to sign Ben Sheets for a stretch run in 2009/having an ace that will actually agree to pitch in RBIA in the summer for 2010 and 2011
C) Failure to extend Hamilton at a ‘good for both parties’ price in a reasonable timeframe, leading to bigger expense down the road, possible rift and possible eventual loss of Hamilton
D) Failure to make an advantageous deadline trade in 2009, solely for financial reasons
E) Desperation sale of team to new owner solely motivated by economics who could cut payroll, get rid of Nolan, mandate ruinous ‘win now’ trades of our coveted prospects and any number of other fiascoes
F) Failure to add any impact free agents in preparation for 2010 (depending on timing of sale)
G) Implementation of Ten Dollar Hot Dog Night
"He struck him out swinging! Hello no-hitter number seven!" - Mark Holtz
by ryan_xpress on Jul 2, 2009 9:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Nolan Ryan getting involved
in phone conversations (at least with Purke) to find out what kind of money they’re looking for is a good sign.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 2, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was that what we had heard about prior to/right after the draft
or have there been more recent convos (e.g. likely subsequent to the MLB loan situation)?
"He struck him out swinging! Hello no-hitter number seven!" - Mark Holtz
by ryan_xpress on Jul 2, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nolan and purke have the same agent
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Jul 2, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would there be any obstacle
To negotiating a bonus to be paid out over multiple years, so that most of the actual payments would be made under new ownership? Aside from the fact that time value of money would mean that the organization would end up paying out more $ overall?
"He struck him out swinging! Hello no-hitter number seven!" - Mark Holtz
by ryan_xpress on Jul 2, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not sure
off the top of my head i havent heard of it happening before
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 2, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would agree with this
he will get a well over slot deal, but not the 7 mil
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 2, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd disagree with a couple of those.
A) no doubt a big fear
B) Sheets is not going to pitch this year, or at the very least, my chances of winning the lottery are greater than my chances of seeing Sheets pitch in 2009.
C) Why extend Hamilton? You have him cheap for a few years, take advantage of it and don’t waste big money on a guy that can’t stay healthy and is a huge risk to continue to have problems.
D) Yep.
E) Slim chance of this, but it could happen. A new owner is more likely to want to keep an icon like Nolan and take advantage of all the talent on the way to try and ride the wave created over the past couple of years, not tear it down.
F) Yep, though the effectiveness of impact FA’s is often overrated.
G) no chance
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jul 2, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dammit, I swear I looked down and didn't see anybody commenting on the Hammy extension
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Jul 2, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but you added
some nice points about his age and prime that are salient.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jul 2, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Disagree
Failure to extend Hamilton at a ‘good for both parties’ price in a reasonable timeframe, leading to bigger expense down the road, possible rift and possible eventual loss of Hamilton
Extending Hamilton is a foolish idea. He is too old and brittle for it to be worth it. We control him for the prime of his career. There is plenty of reason for Hammy to do it, but I see no reason for the Rangers to.
Extending guys you already control for 3-4 more years is a great idea when they are 23-4, and have a relatively healthy history, as long as you can buy out a FA yr or two. Big Hammy, not so much. At the very least, I wouldn’t entertain the idea until he demonstrates a year or so’s worth of mostly injury-free productiviity.
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Jul 2, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeeez, I agree.
I need to see more good health from Josh before making a long-term investment.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 2, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scary, that I agree with you both.
Hambone’s drug past leaves alot of question marks on his future health. Prolonged drug use has effects on the body, long after the last time it is used. Trust me and my personal experience on that.
"Thats all we got? One goddamned hit?" - Harry Doyle
"You cant say god damn on the radio."- Colorman
"Ehhh, who cares...nobody's listening!"- Harry Doyle
by awillis111 on Jul 2, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beyond that
Hamilton has had injury issues since being drafted off and on. I’m not as worried about his drug use.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jul 2, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm far more inclined to worry about his playing style than the past drug issues
by Joey Matschulat on Jul 2, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think I made my point clear.
I’m not worried that Josh is using again. I’m worried what the effect of his past use may still be having on his current health, especially in light of his 110% playing style
"Thats all we got? One goddamned hit?" - Harry Doyle
"You cant say god damn on the radio."- Colorman
"Ehhh, who cares...nobody's listening!"- Harry Doyle
by awillis111 on Jul 2, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
question
Has the Rangers TV booth always sounded like an extension of the Ticket or is this something new this season?
For the life of me I can’t ever remember so much non-baseball talk out of Josh and Tom. Am I mis-remembering (Roger Clemens style) or is this a change in their style?
I've won the same lifetime achievement award twice....yes I'm the Most Interesting Man in the World
by Bezekira on Jul 2, 2009 10:05 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I imagine
giving a shout out to the most popular sports station in town generates good feelings from The Ticket towards Josh & Tag.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 2, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he means overall broadcast style of mixing in a lot of non-sports chatter
As opposed to direct Ticket mentions/references.
Although TAG throwing in baby arm every now and again would be a plus IMO.
"He struck him out swinging! Hello no-hitter number seven!" - Mark Holtz
by ryan_xpress on Jul 2, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wanna hear TAG on a Ranger broadcast say
“Giant Beaver.”
Make that happen, Josh.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 2, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did ya'll miss the memo?
Grieve’s nickname is no longer TAG. He was officially christened “poopoo” night before last.
"Thats all we got? One goddamned hit?" - Harry Doyle
"You cant say god damn on the radio."- Colorman
"Ehhh, who cares...nobody's listening!"- Harry Doyle
by awillis111 on Jul 2, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm out on any and all references to
“Poo Poo”
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 2, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually agree
That has been quite annoying the past few nights.
by Michael Cave on Jul 2, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And to make it even more irritating...
…is how hilarious TAG seems to think it is. He laughs his ass off every time, which only encourages Josh to say it overandoverandover.
by FuturePants on Jul 2, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was only funny if you watched TAG explain how the kid reacted
"Thats all we got? One goddamned hit?" - Harry Doyle
"You cant say god damn on the radio."- Colorman
"Ehhh, who cares...nobody's listening!"- Harry Doyle
by awillis111 on Jul 2, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw it all, believe me.
And I doubt anyone thinks it’s as hilarious as Tom Grieve.
by FuturePants on Jul 2, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What was funny to me was watching Tom explain the whole exchange between him and the kid.
That’s what i was trying to say. I can’t remember ever seeing Tom that animated.
"Thats all we got? One goddamned hit?" - Harry Doyle
"You cant say god damn on the radio."- Colorman
"Ehhh, who cares...nobody's listening!"- Harry Doyle
by awillis111 on Jul 2, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i wish they would stop with that mickey mouse BS
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 2, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ive had people i have never mentioned the broadcast style and my hatred of it flipping out about how mickey mouse the broadcasts are
me and my buddies decided we are gonna just listen to the games muted with tunes in the background. we both have satellites so the radio wont match up with the delays so Nadel isnt an option. we kinda dont know what to do or how to listen to the games, so i guess we’re gonna listen to phish or something that last 3 hours and watch the game along with it.
we all agreed, the tv broadcast announcers wont get our ears ever again.
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Jul 2, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well its not that bad
but i think the poo poo stuff is little league, mickey mouse stuff
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 2, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
TV Broadcast
I may be in the minority here but I like Josh and Tom, and even knox to a small extent. If they would just bring it down some it would be a nice blend. It has gotten over the top recently.
The broadcast doesnt have to be serious baseball 100% of the time, if it was it would sound like generic baseball broadcast which is about what barnett sounds like on the radio.
Ive watched other teams games on tv and I dont feel they are done nearly as well.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jul 2, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
go watch a full dodgers game and come back to me
your opinion will change.
hint: Scully isnt pushing Ice Age 2 cutting away from the game and he doesnt mention tweets every inning and he doest have a buddy named poopoo.
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Jul 2, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Scully is great, Lewin isn’t scully.
But most other broadcasts are so damned dry and generic. This season has gotten WAAY over the top with the twitter crap and now poopoo
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jul 2, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Josh probably assumes credit / responsibility
for the dramatically increased TV ratings.
Snooze.
"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem
by Chase Irwin on Jul 2, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same thing with Twitter.
I’d imagine that Fox Southwest has some kind of deal with Twitter.
by Redcaps on Jul 2, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Part of that isn't on Josh and TAG though
I doubt they were given the option of plugging these movies. Now its Ice Age 2, but earlier in the season I remember it was constant references to Taken coming out on DVD. They can’t do much about it.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jul 2, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the poo poo shit is what annots me the most
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 2, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems like there's more of it than in years past
Speaking of Ticket-speak, as an ardent fan of most of the Ticket and an ardent hater of Rhyner – the fewer references to ‘this thing’ on this blog, the happier I would be.
"He struck him out swinging! Hello no-hitter number seven!" - Mark Holtz
by ryan_xpress on Jul 2, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"This thing and somesuch..." sorry,
I’m not gonna stop.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 2, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh...try
hehe
"He struck him out swinging! Hello no-hitter number seven!" - Mark Holtz
by ryan_xpress on Jul 2, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how can you love the Ticket and hate Rhyner?
he’s the straw that stirs that drink, and the only reason I listen to the Hardline. The rest of the “talent” is nothing special but Rhynes makes that show, IMO.
There's more to the picture than meets the eye.
by tricer on Jul 2, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its pretty easy
When Rhyner has become a caricature of himself. He really does need a guy like greggo to play off of, but I was never a greggo fan.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jul 2, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ticket
I do know that the hardline has been broadcasting from the ballpark more often recently, so thats probably drumming up some of the ticket references.
I heard a “rhyners dead” from knoxie the other day
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jul 2, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was actually when
Rhyner was in the broadcast booth. It seems that the Ticket is trying to capitalize on the heightened interest in the Rangers this year.
by Michael Cave on Jul 2, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Knox
Nah he let one out in the stands a few days ago doing an interview, some fans asked him where rhyner was and he said “rhyners dead”
But yeah, the tickets totally trying to play up the increased interest in the rangers and I cant say I blame them.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jul 2, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh he did it another time when Rhyner wasnt in the booth?
Interesting. I wonder if the Ticket is feeling a little heat from The Fan.
by Michael Cave on Jul 2, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like the Fan got in at the right time
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jul 2, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think June kinda changed their style a bit
I don’t get to listen to them that much, but from what I can tell, Tom spent the month making excuses for the offensive suckage, and Josh spent the month cracking even more lame jokes to try and distract viewers from the offensive suckage.
Before this past month, people never really complained about those things (well, Lewin a little bit, but nothing like lately).
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 2, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The promo for Ice Age 2
was brutal. It made me embarrassed to be human.
by jcAustin on Jul 2, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was horrible
should i re-post the pixar v dreamworks cartoon img
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 2, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I laughed at that
But I have enjoyed Dreamworks animated movies more than Pixar overall, but then again, I can’t think of any of those types of movies that I’ve seen since Shrek 2.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jul 2, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they are really different kinds of films….i laughed at the img too lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 2, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
x
The only positive was when Josh said, “I feel like I’m going to be fired if I don’t go see it.”
by FuturePants on Jul 2, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that was pretty brave of him to throw out there.
by jcAustin on Jul 2, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well farewell Josh
I would really enjoy it if Tom and Eric did the radio and TV brodcast, instead of having a radio team (Barnett sux) and a TV team.
"Thats all we got? One goddamned hit?" - Harry Doyle
"You cant say god damn on the radio."- Colorman
"Ehhh, who cares...nobody's listening!"- Harry Doyle
by awillis111 on Jul 2, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and then they had dead silence for 30 seconds plus
which for the broadcast was awesome, but im pretty sure they were so embarrassed and shell shocked they just laid out in horror. you know its bad when Lewin thinks your an over-marketing sellout whore
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Jul 2, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
any1 who has that tivo'd should throw it up on youtube or something
just to show the world how brutal our broadcast has become.
“My Kids loved it”
“You mean someone willingly fucked your sold out, offering nothing to your profession ass? Multiple times?”
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Jul 2, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So what happens on Friday/Saturday v. Kazmir/Price?
Does the Old School Brutha keep Hank out of the line-up?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 2, 2009 10:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Teams website has Hunter/Holland, respectively, as probables
"Thats all we got? One goddamned hit?" - Harry Doyle
"You cant say god damn on the radio."- Colorman
"Ehhh, who cares...nobody's listening!"- Harry Doyle
by awillis111 on Jul 2, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His terrible career splits
against lefties make me hope so.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jul 2, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
woooooo Neftali Perez!!!!
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 2, 2009 10:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Last nights game....
I went from being the most pissed I have been to jumping around the living room….it wasn’t pretty, but damn it was fun. A few things:
1.We have to get Frankie right and back in the groove. regardless if he is closing or pitching the 8th…we need him dealing. It would be crippling for this team to start blowing games late.
2.Notice that 2 of the 3 players (Hank and Byrd) that would lose playing time to Borbon are now on fire since he has been called up. We should have called him up a month ago.
3.Speaking of Borbon….I am impressed. Weaver is a tough pitcher to hit, and Borbon had a great at-bat, and then showed his speed getting to 2nd. He also just missed a bases loaded triple that he smoked down the line the day before….I like this kid.
by death of the cool on Jul 2, 2009 10:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Borbon
despite his walk rate in the minor lgs he actually looks to be a patient hitter. I think that eventually him and Andrus as a 1-2 punch at the top of the order is going to be a night. That is, if Washington finally realizes that Kinsler is not a leadoff hitter. I really think he is a 3/5 hitter.
by Michael Cave on Jul 2, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd just like to say that I like Julio Borbon
that hit and extending the hit into a double was very nice to see
by texasraider on Jul 2, 2009 11:05 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
heads up play
and played within his capabilities, which can be a difficult proposition for kids straight off the farm
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Jul 2, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course, anyone still think he should have played CF in his first game??
Immediately after watching his brief rookie moment in LF, that’s the first thought I had.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Jul 2, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT: Give up
What’s up with all the anxiety disorder problems in baseball today? The latest to come out is Ian Snell.. While talking to a radio station he said this:
“Sometimes people do stupid stuff and I had to fight it, not to do something stupid and take my life for myself and from my family and my parents,”
You’re playing baseball! Come on, it’s not the end of the world. I don’t get it. However, this is great news for my sports psychology career :)
Does Zach Phillips have to choke a bitch to get to Frisco?
by sprite on Jul 2, 2009 11:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pussification of a America, sprite.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 2, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
im recing this
dunno why
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Jul 2, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought you had work this afternoon?
"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem
by Chase Irwin on Jul 2, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tell that to a Veteran
…who has it. He’ll make you into a pussy real quick. Fucking asshole.
by Black Francis on Jul 2, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Little bit of a difference between anxiety on the baseball diamond v
the battlefield, tough guy.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 2, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure.
Anxiety Disorder can come about in several ways, but it’s not for you to make such sweeping generalizations. It only makes look even more ignorant than most of us thought to begin with.
Things you know nothing about:
1. Anxiety Disorder
2. Battlefields
3. Pro Baseball
Things you think you know everything about:
All of the above and everything else, you know-it-all prick.
by Black Francis on Jul 2, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i firmly believe the dontrelle one was bullshit.
99.9% believe it
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 2, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can CD be put on the
DL with an anxiety disorder?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jul 2, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
or maybe go to Dr. Booth
for LASIK.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 2, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just had that done
for my 40th birthday, 20-15 vision is freakin’ awesome after wearing glasses for 30 years.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jul 2, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then you need to update your avatar.
I have been seriously considering LASIK too.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jul 2, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lasik
Ive thought about it recently.
How much of a pain in the ass is the post op stuff? Lots of eye drops and such?
My big problem is i cant stand things getting near my eyes, which is why i dont like contacts
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jul 2, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My post op
Eye drops for a week (or maybe 2?) along with glasses to keep wind from blowing in your eyes. No Ceiling fans either. Its been about a decade, so I’m not sure whether it was 1 or 2 weeks.
I had it on a Friday and had some mild discomfort (not much more than a dry eye feeling) over the weekend. That was about it.
I may need reading glasses down the road, but I’d have had to do something down the road whether I had the surgery or not.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 2, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everything Dan said
was my experience as well. A lot of eye drops, and some annoying eye gel (like neosporin for your eye they told me), but a small annoyance for the result. You’d be putting eye drops in about every 30 minutes – hour for a couple weeks. Cost about $3,000 and well worth it to me. Probably need reading glasses at some point, but I don’t care about that.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jul 2, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe some Wild Thing Black Rim Glasses
I've won the same lifetime achievement award twice....yes I'm the Most Interesting Man in the World
by Bezekira on Jul 2, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I called into the postgame show last night
saying that if I were Mike Scioscia I would not have IBB’d Hank Blalock either. Julio Borbon is probably better.
Bobby Jindal '12
by dstar442005 on Jul 2, 2009 2:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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