Minors 7/2
by Kinslerhomer on Jul 2, 2009 6:52 PM CDT
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Here's tonights pitching probs:
At 6 Wilmer Font started for Hickory.
At 7 the Lizard will get the start for OKC.
At 7 Michael Kirkman will take the ball for Frisco.
At 9 Jared Hyatt might get the start for Bakersfield.
At 9 Trevor Hurley Ben Henry will toe the rubber for Spokane.
Sometime tonight the AZL Rangers will play with maybe Edwin Escobar get the start.
Go Rangers
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3 scoreless, walkless innings for Font so far
good sign
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on Jul 2, 2009 6:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Very nice game from Font
Gotta think he’s done after six. 6 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 0 BB, 4 K
Bob Sturm doesn't like baseball.
by Brett Perryman on Jul 2, 2009 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Font
Hasn’t gone 6 all year has he?
First start without a walk this year too I think.
by LiamP on Jul 2, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They corrected the box
Boscan relieved him to start the 6th – which means Font’s start was even better.
by shroomer on Jul 2, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep, 5 IP, 4Ks, 0 BBs...
great start
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on Jul 2, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ADoyle rulz!
Bob Sturm doesn't like baseball.
by Brett Perryman on Jul 2, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's just
a reflex for you, isn’t it?
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jul 2, 2009 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much
Bob Sturm doesn't like baseball.
by Brett Perryman on Jul 2, 2009 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is he a Tommy Hunter
type of pitcher?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jul 2, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Evan Reed is the guy I liken him to in my mind.
Without knowing much about him.
by shroomer on Jul 2, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
really?
fastball sits around 95 mph
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Jul 2, 2009 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but that's in a seven day roto, so to speak.
Will that velo hold up starting every fifth day? Dunno, but I really like seeing that number, although most have him slotted as a three, at best.
Will his mechanics need to be reworked, ala BB? I have no idea of his mechanics, maybe Trip could enlighten us.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jul 2, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha yeah right
Bob Sturm doesn't like baseball.
by Brett Perryman on Jul 2, 2009 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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by thedirkatron on Jul 3, 2009 3:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doyle told Jason Cole ...
Doyle: Pretty much I’m a sinker-slider guy. I’ve got a low three-quarter arm slot. I try to stay with a two-seam sinker as much as possible to get a lot of ground balls. I pitch at about 90-93 or 94 [mph]—around that range. I’ve been up to 96 this year, I believe. I have a changeup, which I believe is my second best pitch. It’s a plus pitch for me. It has got a lot of depth and a lot of late action. Then, of course, my slider is my last pitch. It has kind of been a pitch that I’ve been trying to develop. I need to make it into an out pitch, and working with the Rangers, hopefully I’ll be able to do that.
by shroomer on Jul 3, 2009 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doyle
On the SPO roster already, just fyi.
by shroomer on Jul 2, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Law today...
http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/27253/mlb-insider-keith-law
Matt (Boston)
Hey Keith, can you give me a couple of sentences on Boston’s Tim Federowicz? Thanks.
Keith Law (1:14 PM)
Plus defender. Big question on the bat. You can ignore everything he did in Greenville, which was a step down for him. Speaking of which, why on earth do teams send college products whom they drafted high to low-A? San Diego is the biggest offender – Darnell and Tekotte had no business at all being in the Midwest League. You’re not developing the players. You’re not learning anything about them. It’s dumb.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jul 2, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've seen him several times.
Org fodder with a possible best case scenario of a defense-only backup catcher in the show
Not that the Federo part was why you posted the quote, but, still.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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by thedirkatron on Jul 3, 2009 3:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Minors odds and ends
Roark sent back to BAK
Poveda is set to pitch Saturday for Frisco – which would line him up for a TV game the following Friday.
Eyre is starting Saturday after starting just Wednesday.
Hammy’s in CF tonight for OKC.
Hurley is starting on 3 days rest for SPO tonight – weirdness. Wonder if Henry got promoted to HIC. Maybe Doyle’s starting tomorrow for SPO – probably not.
by shroomer on Jul 2, 2009 7:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That would be nice to see Omar on TV.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jul 2, 2009 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OKC's roto is a mess
Ramirez tonight, then TBA, Eyre, Rupe, TBA
Too bad a few more guys aren’t a little further along. Next year at this time Texas should have all of its current options (other than maybe no one in Padilla’s place) plus Kiker, Poveda, Beavan, etc.
Bob Sturm doesn't like baseball.
by Brett Perryman on Jul 2, 2009 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep, we could/should have some nice depth going into next season
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on Jul 2, 2009 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that sucks for Roark
Maybe he will be called up when Frisco plays Corpus again.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jul 2, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Henry back as tonight's SPO starter
musta been a typo by whoever submitted the info
by shroomer on Jul 2, 2009 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moreland hit a HR off of Kyle Lohse in the 1st
that Frisco lineup looks really solid with Smoak healthy and Smith and Moreland there… BTW, i really hope Moreland’s game can work out at the ML level, i love his abilities and would love to have him in our lineup in a couple years
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on Jul 2, 2009 7:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Rangers
kept Smith and Moreland in Clinton for a full season and they both seem to be flourishing a year later. I wonder if they look at Bianucci the same way – just leave him in HIC all season and hope he earns a promo to Frisco by mid-June of 2010.
by shroomer on Jul 2, 2009 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bianuci has been doing
a very nice Chris Davis imitation the last 10 games.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jul 2, 2009 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would definitely mean
that CD or Smoak would be gone. I really dont think that Moreland is in the lineup anywhere but at DH.
by Michael Cave on Jul 2, 2009 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
I’ve never seen him play, but obviously the arm is plussy-plus.
Is he a total plodder out there in the COF?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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by thedirkatron on Jul 3, 2009 3:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Max not in OKC lineup
again tonight. Hope his wrist is OK.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jul 2, 2009 7:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ugh, yea
if it keeps bothering him, im ok if we just right off this season for Max and hope next year he comes back fully healthy… I know he’s capable of a lot more than he’s shown this year.
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on Jul 2, 2009 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know why we try to get guys back in the lineup when they're not fully healthy.
I’m a huge advocate for DL’ing a guy until he’s fully right.
These false starts and quick-reinjury situations sadden me.
Sit him down and let him heal till he’s 100% right. It doesn’t behoove anyone to bring them back less than 100% and let them try to heal up on the job.
They didn’t do it with Franky or Harrison, and I don’t think they’re doing it with Max.
Here’s hoping they let Hambone get back to 100% before sending him back out there.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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by thedirkatron on Jul 3, 2009 3:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smoak
If he weren’t so damn slow he would make a good #2 hitter. 2 BBs tonight so far.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jul 2, 2009 8:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope you meant that sarcastically
He is a perfect 1st baseman. Power, BA, and solid Def.
by gamerabcd on Jul 2, 2009 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
somewhat
Just emphasizing his BBs. I believe he now has more BBs than Ks. Wash will probably bat him 7th.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jul 2, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he even gets off the bench
i know there are managers that like vets a lot more and those that are okay with playing rookies. Wouldnt it make sense for the Rangers to have a coach that doesnt mind playing rookies? Wash seems pretty rookie averse so to speak.
by Michael Cave on Jul 2, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Wash gets a little too much
flack from us on this subject. He played Davis fulltime last year when he came up. Boggs also until his bat went cold. Andrus is only getting 1 game off per week.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jul 2, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah but
the andrus thing almost seemed like a mandate. It was such a big deal moving MY off of SS that Andrus was going to get extensive playing time. Luckily, Andrus started off hot. Honestly, im really afraid of how he will handle Borbon. I would love it if he just put Borbon in CF for the rest of the yr.
by Michael Cave on Jul 2, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How so?
Elvis is starting almost every day. Holland has been used plenty. CD started 90% of the games last season, and 95% this season. Boggs played a lot last year.
i think you are reading too many LSB knee-jerkers…
(same thoughts as RM…heh)
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jul 2, 2009 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
forgive me
if i only respond to him extensively then since you and RM are pretty much on the same pg. May be just overall frustration from how he handles the lineup ha
by Michael Cave on Jul 2, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
0.5 outta first place, for a team forecasted to win 72-75 games?
Most here ride his ass like a wet fucking diaper…for no real reason, other than that they want to bitch.
What would you have thought if RW managed like McFat last night? This place would have imploded.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jul 2, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I pretty much agree with you
Whining is just a part of life on LSB… RW gets way more crap from some, yes, he makes some dumb moves, but I think we dont know all the reasoning behind it most of the time, and the times he messes up, well every manager in baseball makes alot of mistakes… Its just a part of baseball.
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on Jul 2, 2009 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Second guessing is part of the fun of being a fan
and not the mgr. I agree that every mgr in the majors get a lot of shit from his hometown fans. I would be interested to see a mgr ranking somewhere. I doubt there are any metrics that can measure how many wins a manager adds/subtracts to/from his team.
by Michael Cave on Jul 2, 2009 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
blalock84, I completely agree.
And Michael, I do agree with you, that is part of the fun of being a fan. But I tend to think of it in a chess match kind of way, and not "he’s a complete idiot’ kind of way (not directed at you).
I really, really like the fact that so many more people post here now, as it makes for entertaining discourse, but I think the “teen-angst/lack of nuance crew” gets to be a beating. Everything is SUCK!, or RULES!
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jul 2, 2009 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea, i agree, i get pissed at Ron too
it is a part of being a fan, but at the end of the day, Im happy with him as our Manager… it just becomes a beating when its on the agenda of some fans to make everything out to be why RW sucks ass
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on Jul 2, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
totally
agree guys. I know this is an overused argument but one testament to RW is that the players really seem to like him. And Rodney you are right taking extreme stances either way gets old.
by Michael Cave on Jul 2, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, you pitched in college.
I did not. I do value your opinions, as you are much closer to the everyday routine/way things work info than I, seriously.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jul 2, 2009 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Appreciate that
you are definitely on the list of posters whom i actually read. You can guess which ones i dont (ahem, josey donuts, steal home, any iteration of hurleyhurler). In college i knew NOTHING about sabermetrics at all. This site has definitely taught me a great deal about a different side of baseball. Funny thing is that im actually a big time math guy so finding out about that stuff is really cool.
Also, i had a couple of friends in college that never really played ball in their lives but knew a lot about baseball. I also had a few friends that did play and knew VERY little surprisingly ha.
by Michael Cave on Jul 2, 2009 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
now to be a contrarian
He really had little choice with CD and Andrus. And I didn’t like the way Holland was used out of the bullpen. It will be interesting to see what happens with Borbon.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jul 2, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
Seems like whenever he has an actual choice, he goes with the “veteran” or whoever has more experience.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 2, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I think you are reading too many LSB knee-jerkers…"
Yep, that was partially directed at you.
Please, cite examples of when he didn’t play rookies, at least those who may be lucky to have a career as a 5th OFer, and were called up as such.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jul 2, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All three young catchers have had time snubbed from them at some point or another
There haven’t been a ton of rook position players up here in the last couple years, but Salty, Max and even Tea at the very end of last year all got shorted playing time either for Gerald Laird or because Wash was afraid to play them defensively (in Max’s case). Davis has always gotten playing time because he’s either been the only option or the best defender, but he also got got continually buried in the order last year when he was hitting extremely well.
Wash has fallen in love with some young guys, but when he does they’re usually the wrong ones, like Arias and pre-2009 David Murphy.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 2, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So... Wash was playing the better players?
Doesn’t sound like much of a young/old thing. Sounds to me like a win/lose thing.
by NoNameOnCard on Jul 2, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Up until this season, win/lose should've been a much lower priority than player development, IMO.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 2, 2009 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Long term, yes.
Short term, Was had to show that he knew how to manage a team. Winning is really the best measure of that.
by NoNameOnCard on Jul 2, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The front office has stuck with Wash for 2 and a half years now
If Wash really had to short young players development time in non-contending seasons to keep his job, then that’s on the front office for not admitting we where in the midst of a rebuild.
But given that this organization has put up with three consecutive horrid April starts without firing the guy, I don’t really think that was the case, myself.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 2, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only way the front office has anything to do with this is...
by giving Wash a job to do (win games) and by giving him veteran players.
The manager’s job is to win games.
by NoNameOnCard on Jul 2, 2009 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that's a rather narrow definition of a managers job, myself.
I think maybe 50% of a managers job is managing to win games through in-game managment (which Wash sucks at) and 50% of it has to do with managing playing time, players, and prioritizing who should play when and why.
When you’re managing a losing team, I think that changes the priorities of who should play and why, because winning is not only less likely, but less important. Part of the reason Wash was hired is because he was billed as a player development guy, but in the last two seasons, which where pretty much lost to us soon after they began, he proved to simply be a “win every game” manager. And for a young team that at a certain point needed to play for the future instead of the present, I think that was the wrong focus.
This year Wash’s focus is a little more in line with our goals, thanks to the fact that the roster has improved, but he still needs to learn to juggle the win now and win later responsibility better than he has.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 2, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um, I don't agree with that at all
Managers #1 goal is always to win games.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 2, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
especially when he could be fired at the end of the year
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on Jul 2, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Laird brought Melo & Moscoso.
Was that bad? Coming off of an injury, he needed to play to up his trade value.
And frankly, Salts was not good defensively last season, and Max lagged far behind.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jul 2, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Salty was conveniently benched when he heated up in the second half last year.
Max barely had any AB’s at all, thanks to the fact that he spent most of his time in the majors on the bench.
I’m happy that Laird brought back Moscoso plus Melo, but since Laird basically hit like crap in the second half I don’t really buy that playing him late in the year is what cranked up his trade value. His hot first half was what made his 2008 season look decent.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 2, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
again, this is the typical kind of stuff we go through most of the time when we question
the managers moves… there are legit reasons to both sides of the question, its just the way someone sees it. Im not saying that RW is never wrong, but alot of times, there are really good reasons for what was done even if we disagree with it
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on Jul 2, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I'm sure Wash has his reasons for everything he does
I just think his reasoning is kind of screwed up most of the time. And I really doubt he gave any thought at all to Laird’s trade value last year, he just played him because he thought he was the most experienced and reliable option. Which is fine, until you consider the fact that playing the most experienced and reliable option didn’t matter one bit when we weren’t anywhere close to the playoffs last year.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 2, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As if the FO can not mandate who is played.
Umm, yes they can, and do on a frequent basis, especially in a lost season.
You are slipping into Donuts territory here, friend.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jul 2, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This might be the one area where I think Uncle Josey is onto something, in principle
Just because the FO hasn’t really ever interfered with Wash’s roster management doesn’t mean they shouldn’t have. About my only problem with what JD has done in the last three years is the blind faith he seems to have in Wash.
Yeah, Ron’s a cool guy, and the players like him and all that. That’s a lot more than Buck had going for him. But I don’t think he does the actual managing part of his job well enough to warrant having it. And the fact that nobody up top seems to care about that does kind of disappoint me, because I thought this organization had moved past outdated axioms like relying on “baseball men” who don’t really have any qualifications outside their reputation.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 2, 2009 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
you hire a manager you like and you let him do his job for the most part. Micromanaging like that is a great way to piss off you manager and undermine his authority in the clubhouse.
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by t ball on Jul 3, 2009 7:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, good point
But if you feel the need to micromanage a situation, chances are you need to make changes as to whom you’ve got in charge of it.
I guess that’s really the point I’m driving at here: if Wash can’t be trusted to make decisions that are in the best interest of the team, he shouldn’t be the manager. Between his overall baseball mindset and questionable everyday management I don’t think that he can be.
Bottom line is Wash just seems like the antithesis of the direction this ballclub is going in, at least to me. And that’s why I’m really puzzled and slightly frustrated as to why the front office continues to rely on him and his infamous gut to helm the boat year after year.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 3, 2009 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you're probably
putting a bit too much stock in how much the manager influences the win column. If they felt the need to micromanage too much, I’m sure they’d make a change. The front office is saber-friendly, but only to a point. They also rely on plenty of old school gut, and old saws like team chemistry/leadership. Why else would Byrd be considered so valuable?
I think they have struck a pretty good balance between the two, and though I disagree with some of Wash’s decisions, I think he’s basically handling his job well. The players play their butts off for him, and that to me is the most important thing you want from your manager.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jul 3, 2009 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
whether he was or not
he still had to manage for his job, and he still had to try and win every game… at that point he didnt know if he was even gonna be the manager this year
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on Jul 2, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He could have played other options at 1st.
And the debate was not usage, it was playing them at all…has he played Holland? Yes, so he is removed from the debate.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jul 2, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The way he used Holland out of the bullpen this year was pretty dispecable, IMO.
Either put him into the middle of other peoples messes or didn’t really use him at all.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 2, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great effort by Font today
6 innings, 1 run in 6th, 4 Ks, and no walks. The no walks i think is best all season.
by gamerabcd on Jul 2, 2009 8:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Excuse me its MIlb scoreboard giving wrong results
He went 5 innings, and no runs given up.
by gamerabcd on Jul 2, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even better
Always good when Wilmer New Courier has a good game
by Michael Cave on Jul 2, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Wilmer Futura Hv myself
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jul 2, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Us "baseman boys" should give thanks to this man
When I got into baseball (30 years ago), he was already 60 years old, marveled O’Conner. He was talking about the benefits of the internet and streaming video before most of us had ever heard of such a thing.
John Henry Moss passed at 90. Everyone who loves minor league ball should think a nice thought for this man.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jul 2, 2009 8:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Very Bad News
Shon Landry out due to nagging shoulder injuries and slide from last night. Seems to retiring from playing baseball.
by gamerabcd on Jul 2, 2009 8:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Correction
Seems only done for this year, but no determination of if he will return.
by gamerabcd on Jul 2, 2009 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that sucks
That’s just brutal to have this happen the day after his first professional hit, especially after it took him so long to get it.
by naropean on Jul 2, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lemon
I noticed that Lemon has been playing exclusively at 2b lately. Seems wierd that they would bat him low in the order and move him off short for a non-prospect.
There's more to the picture than meets the eye.
by tricer on Jul 2, 2009 8:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmm who is more of a non prospect
a guy who can hit and play Both MIF positions or a guy who can hit and should only be playing 2b?
by Goyogringo on Jul 2, 2009 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm slow
Are you saying that you think Renny Osuna is a better prospect than Lemon?
There's more to the picture than meets the eye.
by tricer on Jul 2, 2009 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think Lemon will be anything more than a utility second baseman?
He certainly shouldn’t be seeing time at SS at the major league level. There is a reason that Lemon is being moved of short; he is not a prospect at short.
by Goyogringo on Jul 2, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so you are saying that Osuna is a better prospect than Lemon?
cuz i think thats just dead wrong
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by blalock84 on Jul 2, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Get on base or die, Salty.
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by lonestarJon on Jul 2, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and to further that, from the reports ive read, im not sure if Osuna is any better a defender
at SS than Lemon is
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by blalock84 on Jul 2, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
come on, u expect me to dig up that?
alright, im sure others have read similar things
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by blalock84 on Jul 2, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure that is why
he has lost his spot to Osuna. It is probably also the reason TX played him solely at 2b during instructs to finally get under way the belated and long-expected transition for littel lemon. Probably something to do with his 40error projections year after year. Playing a cagey SS will only get you so far if you have neither the hands nor range
by Goyogringo on Jul 2, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey, im not gonna say that Lemon is gonna be anything more than a below average SS
i really cant say much about his D, errors in the minors as we all know are misleading, but yea, Lemon hasnt been great so far… However, he did just turn 21 and he’s not done developing. He’s already shown legitimate ability to hit the baseball and stay patient at the plate in AA at a young age, you just cant say the same about Osuna who is 24 this year… Osuna had a lesser OPS than Lemon did last year in the Cal league and is putting up a putrid .617 OPS so far this year bt. Bake and Frisco. I was a hoping for more out of Osuna coming into this year and thought he could do better than that, but saying Osuna was a better prospect (even if you wanna just talk about prospects to be a utility guy) b4 this year was a bad idea, and now it just seems really stupid
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by blalock84 on Jul 2, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and for what these error totals are worth,
Lemon has 16 Errors on the year in AA in 71 games
Osuna has 8 Errors in AA in 31 games and 8 Errors in High A in 42 games…
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by blalock84 on Jul 2, 2009 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
seems like
GG is trying to say exactly that, but without actually saying it, because he knows it is a real reach to say it.
There's more to the picture than meets the eye.
by tricer on Jul 2, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you think Osuna will be seeing time at the major league level?
There's more to the picture than meets the eye.
by tricer on Jul 2, 2009 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
at SS
or anywhere else?
There's more to the picture than meets the eye.
by tricer on Jul 2, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
its much more likely that they want Lemon to play 2b to increase his options
i seem to remember alot of talk about playing Lemon at 2nd this year.
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by blalock84 on Jul 2, 2009 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love little Lemon, but I don't think he was ever a serious threat to play significant innings at SS in the bigs.
He profiles more as a league average 2b with good on base skills.
There’s some value in that.
I think he gets overlooked cause he’s not a toolsy guy with star potential and this system is so loaded solid guys like him get lost in the shuffle.
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by thedirkatron on Jul 3, 2009 3:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hammy 0 for 4 after 1 for 7 yesterday
Obviously not real meaningful but still a tad disappointing.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Jul 2, 2009 8:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wasnt it expected his timing would be off the most?
by gamerabcd on Jul 2, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's killing that lineup
Killing it I tell ya. He shits his pants every time he goes to the plate. Why the hell is Jones batting him leadoff? I am sure it plays well in the locker room.
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by RangerMad on Jul 2, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even making fun of him is getting old at this point,
because he just doesn’t get it.
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by Rodney on Jul 2, 2009 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im just glad my nickname
, Josey Donuts, for him stuck. I am now done responding to him ha
by Michael Cave on Jul 2, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You win, sir...you win.
:)
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by Rodney on Jul 2, 2009 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's really gotten out of hand
and I’m sorry for the part I’ve played in it, been too bored at work this week.
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by t ball on Jul 2, 2009 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm really, really hoping we didn't rush him back.
But who knows.
Maybe they waited a week longer than they thought they should just to be safe and my fear about this org’s tendencies to rush guys back after injuries is all for naught.
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by thedirkatron on Jul 3, 2009 3:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Diamond in for Kirkman
Kirkman couldn’t get the last out to go 5. 97 pitches in 4 2/3. Diamond has been on a good sreak lately. He has been charged with a in 6 of 7 appearance. Don’t know about the IR.
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by RangerMad on Jul 2, 2009 9:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I would just love it if
Diamond finally asserted himself as a legit bullpen option. By the way, is anyone else getting more and more excited about Hunter?
by Michael Cave on Jul 2, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
he really impressed in his last outing. I always thought he could stick as a joe blanton type back of the rotation innings eater. Previously I thought that might be his ceiling, but he may very well end up being better than that.
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by rchawk12 on Jul 2, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be a pleasant surprise
if he forced his way into the rotation discussion. Very few of us seem to have him in any projected rotations for the future. I also think his ceiling has changed to possibly a Daryl Kile type.
by Michael Cave on Jul 2, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
im not sure if he can be better than Blanton
but i think it would be a huge win if he turned into a Blanton type
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by blalock84 on Jul 2, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
blanton in our ballpark
is not much of a win imo. not great, but not terrible.
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by rchawk12 on Jul 2, 2009 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blanton
He’s good enough to pitch in any rotation in the major leagues, save maybe one or two. There is big value in a guy like that who makes near the minimum for three seasons, then can be traded before he starts getting expensive.
There's more to the picture than meets the eye.
by tricer on Jul 2, 2009 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i completely agree
never meant for that comp to be a slight
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by rchawk12 on Jul 2, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep, if hunter = blanton we have a big win i think
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by blalock84 on Jul 2, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Diamond got blasted
for 4 earned runs in 1.2 innings just a couple outings ago.
There's more to the picture than meets the eye.
by tricer on Jul 2, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He gave up a grand slam.
“Blasted” is somehow appropriate and overstating it at the same time.
by NoNameOnCard on Jul 2, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As an aside
I would love to hear your take on hunter’s mechanics.
by Michael Cave on Jul 2, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't much of a chance to really watch him.
If there’s suitable video somewhere, I can have a look.
by NoNameOnCard on Jul 2, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd love, love, love if it we could get you to do that, Trip.
I was squarely in the Diamond as the breakout guy in ’09 camp, but I trust your opinion greatly and when you threw up your hands like a Frenchman in the vicinity of scowling German early this season after seeing his new breaking ball it really deflated me.
I’d be very interested to see if this steady improvement he seems to be making is based on an actual improvement in stuff or if it’s just a now 26 year old guy figuring out how to get out AA hitters with lesser stuff that prolly won’t play at the higher levels.
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by thedirkatron on Jul 3, 2009 3:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyone got an idea...
as to when we’ll start hearing about the latin american signees?
"Anyone that isn't pro-choice never met you" ~Brian Thomas on Seth...
by ivysafety39 on Jul 2, 2009 9:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We do,
its Major Lg Baseball, ha….good lord i dislike Tom Hicks a lot
by Michael Cave on Jul 2, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he costs us Scheppers or Purke I will have to start a hire a new owner website.
by gamerabcd on Jul 2, 2009 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking about that today
if we dont sign Scheppers we get a pick at the end of 2nd rd, right? If we dont sign Purke we get the 14th or 15th pick next yr? Honestly, if money becomes or is a problem then i would hope the Rangers would make Scheppers a priority because if we dont sign Purke at least we get another first rnd pick next yr. I would hate for that to happen but would that make sense?
by Michael Cave on Jul 2, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
under the new draft rules...
if the nationals continue to suck this year, and don’t sign strasburg, could they possibly get the first 2 picks in next years draft.
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by ivysafety39 on Jul 2, 2009 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is not a chance we get another top 10 guy
Drafting in the high 20s like this year has gone.
by gamerabcd on Jul 2, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh i know
i may be reading too much into the financial situation conjecture lately but i am fearing that the Rangers will have to sign one OR the other.
by Michael Cave on Jul 2, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The A's have already signed 3 players
and I don’t see anything regarding the Rangers.
hopefully we get profar and pimentel, but I don’t have a good feeling about it now
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by NothinG on Jul 2, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i wouldnt hold your breath on pimental
he seems to be going to seattle by most accounts. profar on the other hand looks like as close to a lock as it gets.
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by rchawk12 on Jul 2, 2009 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Per Jamey
According to at least one local report, while no specific player names have been announced, and amid a whirlwind of articles suggesting the Rangers are in urgent financial straits, the club reportedly committed at least $2.5 million today to sign multiple Latin American prospects as the July 2 international signing period opened. There ought to be names in this year’s haul that will generate some instant buzz.
by gamerabcd on Jul 2, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is the local report?
Bob Sturm doesn't like baseball.
by Brett Perryman on Jul 2, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
by gamerabcd on Jul 2, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe we should look at the Hicks payroll thing in reverse
He’s using the loophole loan for payroll as a means to maintain the cashflow to get the draft and FA deals done.
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by Brett Perryman on Jul 2, 2009 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think that's it
They probably just budgeted in the draft and LA signings pretty far ahead of time in anticipation of this whole fiasco.
by LiamP on Jul 3, 2009 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Budget means nothing
without the cash to pay for what’s budgeted. I can put anything I want in my budget, but if I lose my job and have no income, the budget doesn’t mean much.
Someone suggested in another thread that the loans might be against future league revenue income streams like the website stuff. If that’s the case, then the league wouldn’t really control how the team spends its money and the over slot bonuses would not be in danger.
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by t ball on Jul 3, 2009 7:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
just trying to be waaaaaay more positive than I typically am when it comes to Hicks.
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by Brett Perryman on Jul 3, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That does sound like a few players
But not the 2 mil plus for just Pimental
by gamerabcd on Jul 2, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
They have spent at least in the neighborhood of that basically every year since they started their push.
2.5 might include Sardenas at least, though.
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by Brett Perryman on Jul 2, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2.5 mil is a fine amount to commit in the International FA market
im happy with that
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by blalock84 on Jul 2, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
For Purke yes, not for the supplemental pick.
by gamerabcd on Jul 2, 2009 9:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
OT:
I dislike the White Sox announcers more than any other broadcasting team easily
by Michael Cave on Jul 2, 2009 10:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you are most certaintly not alone
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by blalock84 on Jul 2, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What was it Firebat wanted Hawk to die from?
Mouth Cancer? Yeah, that sounds about right.
Get on base or die, Salty.
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by lonestarJon on Jul 2, 2009 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are horrific.
They totally redifine the “Homer” category of MLB announcers.
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by Rodney on Jul 2, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah it is bad
I think that Josh and Tom especially do a great job of not being THAT bad.
by Michael Cave on Jul 2, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Them and the Angels guys are the only instant mutes for me with the Extra Innings package.
There are some really good ones out there, though.
Obviously Vin Scully is a mandatory stop-down. You immediately stop channel surfing, grab a beer and sink into the couch when you come across a Scully game.
The Tigers guys are pretty darn good. Interesting discussions, respectful of other teams, and nice use of saber stats without getting too nerdy. Plus they break out the X-Mo camera more than any team I’ve noticed, and that thing is a freaking national treasure. Watching Verlander deliver a pitch over 4 or 5 seconds in X-Mo is museum quality shit.
There are others who impress from time to time, but no one is leaping to mind.
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by thedirkatron on Jul 3, 2009 4:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another LA kid to watch for Edwin Escobar
Goes 5 innings, 1 run on 3 hits and 4 Ks.
by gamerabcd on Jul 2, 2009 10:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Another Milb mistake showing
Only went 4 innings, but no runs and 4 Ks.
by gamerabcd on Jul 2, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was one of the big jewels of last year's class, supposedly.
350K or so.
He’s really intriguing in the long, long term.
So far inhis extremely limited AZRL experience:
8.0 ip 5 h 1 er 2 bb’s 10 k’s
Love that k/bb.
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by thedirkatron on Jul 3, 2009 4:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the thing that blows my mind
Escobar is HS Jr/Sr-ish at 17; Alvarez turns 17 at the end of the season!!
by Goyogringo on Jul 3, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pina with GW HR in 10th
Smoak with a 2B and 3BBs.
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by RangerMad on Jul 2, 2009 10:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
THREE walks?
Get on base or die, Salty.
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by lonestarJon on Jul 2, 2009 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just cant
wait til he gets to the majors. I have no doubt he will have a Berkman like career.
by Michael Cave on Jul 2, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I fear Rudy gets ahold of him.
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by RangerMad on Jul 2, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really don't think Rudy is the problem
It’s his personnel. Outside of maybe Jones, who is hitting like it’s 2008 again, there’s not one player on this roster with a historically high walk rate.
Get on base or die, Salty.
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by lonestarJon on Jul 2, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But he doesnt help it either
Seems to allow them to continue bad practices.
by gamerabcd on Jul 2, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
see Hank Blalock
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by RangerMad on Jul 2, 2009 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yah, he ruined Tex.
I think we tend to give way too much credit to what a hitting coach can do with a guy at the major league level in terms of changing a guy’s overall approach at the plate.
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by thedirkatron on Jul 3, 2009 4:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ding ding ding ding! we have a winner
People expect too much of managers and coaches. It’s the players, folks.
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by t ball on Jul 3, 2009 7:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would be ok with letting rudy go next year
and getting rid of as many hackers as is feasible; his brand of offense will never score runs in the playoffs.
by Goyogringo on Jul 2, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
I won’t be heartbroken if he leaves myself, I’m just saying I don’t think he’s some kind pitching coach version of Mark Connor who will ruin any young hitter he touches.
Get on base or die, Salty.
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by lonestarJon on Jul 2, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doh
*hitting coach
Get on base or die, Salty.
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by lonestarJon on Jul 2, 2009 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So im confused
what was the impetus for the patience last year? It couldnt have been all Bradley and Vazquez could it?
by Michael Cave on Jul 2, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is the $1M question
and one reason why I think he should not return next year.
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by RangerMad on Jul 2, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Patience from who?
Blalock when he was in, was same free swinger. Kinsler before hurt, was just red hot. Crush was K in less of rate, but bashing alot more. Bradley was only patient hitter, other than Josh when he was not getting any pitches, due to pitchers fearing him.
by gamerabcd on Jul 2, 2009 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is what im asking
were the superior numbers last year in terms of patience merely a function of those two players’ stats or something that permeated throughout the lineup?
by Michael Cave on Jul 2, 2009 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dont think there was much patience
I cant remember a Rudy coached team actually be patient. Throughtout a season, not just one game.
by gamerabcd on Jul 2, 2009 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh, they played a pretty large part in it.
I think myself there might’ve been a certain monkey-see, monkey-do factor with Bradley, at least. But whether you believe that or not, I don’t see how Rudy’s not going to get any credit for being a part of the offense last year if he’s going to be blamed exclusively for this year’s problems.
I do have my suspicions his approach might be the wrong one for such an impatient team, but I do think if he had more to work with it would be less of a problem.
Get on base or die, Salty.
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by lonestarJon on Jul 2, 2009 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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