Monday morning Rangers things
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 20, 2009 9:42 AM CDT
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PrintWeird, frustrating game last night. It ended well, but at the same time, sort of drove home how messed up this offense is right now.
And exceptional work from the bullpen last night, which went 8 innings, struck out 9, walked 2, and allowed just 2 hits.
Jeff Wilson writes that the Rangers at the start of the game knew the M's and Angels had both won, which meant that another loss would drop them even farther back in the A.L. West race.
Jeff (the writer) Miller writes that the pen has adopted the name the "Wolf Pack," and its wolf pack mentality was key to last night's victory.
On the injury front, Nelson Cruz has a fractured ring finger, but it isn't considered serious, and he could be back in the lineup tonight. Matt Harrison, meanwhile, is set to make a rehab start in Frisco on Wednesday.
The Rangers are inquiring on pitching on the trade front, but don't want to seriously deplete the farm to make a move. Wilson runs down possible targets for the rotation and bullpen.
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But Andruw has
a .862 OPS. :>(
Seriously, they are not going to make any significant changes until they are out of the playoff race.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
Not really
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Jul 20, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions
No thank you per Crush.
I’ve seen Crush Davis circa 2009…this offense was worse when he was here.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
yeah
They were unable to score more than 3 runs when he was in the offense, which is completely different from what they are able to do now which is…
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Gdawg
I thought you were disciplined by others in here not to respond to me?
Doesn’t matter to me either way because I enjoy good banter.
The July offense was much better until the team went to Seattle and then this past weekend happened. I need to see more than the SSS of July.
The lingering problem for the offense is the OBP and this team was much worse in June with Davis crapping his pants every night.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 20, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Again Josey
This teams offense in June was not the result of the 7th or 8th spot hitter slumping. It was because everyone was slumping
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
It wasn't all the fault of Chris Davis
but the chemistry of the line-up with an AL 1B hitting as poorly as he was (and has all year) simply didn’t work.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 20, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
What does that mean
chemistry of the lineup?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
bigsteve
Quite simply, it wasn’t working.
I can’t prove that Davis playing every day (while sucking) while the proven veteran Blalock was in a platoon upset the room / chemistry of the line-up and was the reason this thing was struggling in June but this was a different team when Blalock started playing every day (beginning in July).
There were others at fault in June as well. Blalock was terrible but appeared to be trying to do too much to get back in the line-up. Cruz was awful and so was AJones. Salty (.270 OBP) was unspeakably bad.
This line-up isn’t fixed by any means. We need somebody who mashes leftys so Blalock can move down to 7th (instead of 5th).
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 20, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
so what if the rangers continue to slump with blalock at 1b?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 20, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
so
again, you’re completely dismissing the idea that Davis could come up, replace Andruw Jones in the lineup, and going forward, be a better option? is that what you’re saying? because Andruw Jones is terrible. And I, for one, would be willing to let Davis get another shot because he’s hit well at AAA and he hit well last year. Jones is what he is. Davis has more potential.
I dismiss the idea that Davis can fix anything.
You can’t be successful over the long-term with a 1B that has a .250ish obp, especially when the biggest problem with this thing is obp.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 20, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
so what about the last few years?
they just go out the window?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 20, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Watch out John he will dismiss you also
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
yea
but seriously, how do you pass judgement on a player after ~3+ months
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 20, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
I have no idea
But there are people that want to. IMO I think Davis will be fine.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
yes
that’s right. you can’t be successful with a first baseman with a .250 obp. we agree. but Davis has shown enough in AAA for me to say it’s worth giving him a shot in the hope that he shows much more discipline and gets on base at a higher clip. Jones is fat, doesn’t hustle, can’t play the field at all.
Please
Chris Davis has had, what, 46 PA in AAA? He still have 10 Ks with only 4 walks to show for it. His numbers are very cool looking because his BABIP is something like .500 right now. This has SMALL SAMPLE SIZE written all over it. People were constantly saying that Davis didn’t need to be sent down in April or May because it was just a little slump and it wasn’t really enough ABs to judge him on. Well… there you go. Give the kid until August at least.
Now, as for Andruw Jones. His OBP is 3rd highest on the club, his OPS is 2nd highest. He’s not getting hits right now, but he’s walking and he’s not K’ing – his BABIP for the last ten games is just stupid low (2 hits in 27 non-K/non-HR ABs). He’s a player who is slumping a bit, has run into a string of bad luck, and yet isn’t hurting the team that much because he IS ONE OF THE ONLY PLAYERS WHO GETS ON BASE AT ALL
Go Rice Owls!
I'd still like to see...
those K’s come down a little and a few more walks.
Of course I’d also like a 7 figure job to fall right in my lap too.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Jones isn't a problem for this team.
The guy has had good ABs, has made solid contact, has generally worked the count, and has gotten unlucky in a number of his more recent at-bats.
This Jones looks more like 07 Jones than 08 Jones (.228/40HRs vs .150/3HRs)
While it’s not 05/06 Jones, he’s still only 32 (~4 years older than Hamilton) and has the potential to be much better than his numbers over the last two years.
Jones
Walked alot in the first month but how many has he had in the last month or so…17 (85 ab’s) in first 2 months and 13 (100 ab’s) since. He is not walking and getting on base. Since that 3 hr game all he does is try and hit a hr every swing.
Jones
I think hes turning it around. 21 walks (unintentional plus intentional) in his first 106 PA which was thru the end of May. Since June 1st hes had 105 PA and only 10 walks. However half of those have come in the last three games hes played. He went 23 straight plate appearances without a walk in June during which the entire team was sucking ass at the plate.
ANdruw Jones was considered a HOF talent in his 20’s. His career OBP is .339. This season as bad as people think hes been his OBP is .336. He’s slugging better than his career numbers. I don’t know what exactly people expected when we signed him but hes playing about like what he was during his prime without the batting average.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Wow, this is the Nelson Cruz argument all over again.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Uhhh no
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
More specific
this offense, with Davis in it in June playing every day, was simply awful.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
As opposed to now
The offense still sucks. Not saying Davis should be brought back but this offense was sucking with him in it and now out of it. It is a team problem not just a Davis problem.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
I would hardly blame it all on CD
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
Yes
But Davis wasn’t the only reason. he was a significant part but hardly to blame for our June offensive issues
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Blalock is
not hitting well v. leftys yet but he’s done a much better job than Davis did when he was here.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 20, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree
But that doesn’t mean that this teams inability to hit in the month of June was completely Davis’ fault. Blaming a team wide slump on a guy who is hitting 7th or 8th in the lineup is ridiculous.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Smoak
needs to be left in AAA for the rest of yr. Tell him he can come to spring training to compete for the starting 1B next year.
by Michael Cave on Jul 20, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Yep
Hell he needs to start next year in AAA and come up around April 21st or whenever we can guarantee ourselves an extra year of team control
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Well hopefully
CD comes to spring training with his head on straight and makes it a moot pt.
by Michael Cave on Jul 20, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Smoak, Max
I wonder if there’s any real precedent for power hitting prospects performing in AA, and flaming out in AAA.
I just think it’s injuries and small samples.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jul 20, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions
i think with
Smoak it is WAY too early to make any assumptions. Right now Im going to believe that MaxRam’s struggles are due to his wrist injury.
by Michael Cave on Jul 20, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
If there is a difference between AA and AAA
It’s a mix of hitter experience and pitcher command. I can’t think of a comparitive rule, even a rule of thumb that one could apply, but I’m never co pletely surprised when hitters take a drop in production going from AA to AAA. The ones who adjust to more experienced pitching and sometimes more experienced defenses trend back up to their potential. The ones who don’t adjust are probably vulnerable to being exposed.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Jul 20, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Smoak
is going to be fine AAA.
If you dominate AA to that degree, he’ll be doing the same thing in OKC.
I do wonder about the mind meld on him of having Crush there as well.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 20, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
If he can't handle Davis being in OKC with him
What makes you think he’ll be able to handle him in Arlington together?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
bigsteve
I’m not saying that’s the reason he’s struggling in AAA (does he always start out slow?) but I’m wondering what it’s doing to his mind.
I agree, if he can’t handle it at all, he won’t make it in The Show.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 20, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
does who start off slow?
smoak?
no one would have any way of knowing if he started off fast or slow
what are you going to use, his HS numbers?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 20, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't know how Smoak
started last year or this year in the minor leagues.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 20, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
ok....so
you were saying maybe he starts off slow or you were saying he does start off slow?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 20, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
When I say
“I don’t know how Smoak started last year or this year in the minor leagues” that means I don’t know how he usually begins his seasons as a professional.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 20, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
thx
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 20, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I don't think we have much of a read on this..
This year is his only example, and how he started in HS and college is probably little more than meaningless due to the nature of early-season schedules. (i.e. what can we learn about him from games against Charleston Welding Tech???
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Those guys are ferocious!
"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09
by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 20, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Smoak is loving the fact that CD is in OKC
It means that the main road block to him playing in Arlington has been removed, even if only temporarily.
"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09
by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 20, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
You know, the more I think about it, the more I like the idea of buying low on Ian Snell
He’s probably not an immediate-impact guy, but I could see him being a potential 2010 rotation cog, if we can get him turned around.
Anybody have any idea what it might take to nab him?
"You know, I’m playing entirely too much." - Andruw Jones
"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels
I wonder if they would take
Poveda for him + another c prospect?
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
I wonder what Duke would cost
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Jul 20, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Too much
of a buy high type of trade for me. I think any deal the Rangers make should involve hitting moreso than pitching…
by Michael Cave on Jul 20, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Poveda, Madrigal, Strop and Golson are fillers
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 20, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Snell could probably be had for filler
Did you see the low ball offers they made to Wilson and Sanchez? They would love to get out of Snells contract.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
no way it would be that high
I bet you could get them for that original package, the way the pirates work they would give you a discount on Duke for taken Snell
by blueballlefty on Jul 20, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Duke is scary
because he’d cost a lot more…and he’s only had one good rookie half season plus this year…everything in between wasn’t so good.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 20, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
peripherals is what I was referring to
His ERA wasn’t horrible at 4.47, 5.53, 4.82 during that 3 year period, but look at his WHIP: 1.50, 1.73, 1.50. Pretty bad. And he doesn’t miss many bats for outs. Can’t blame TOO much of that on a bad defense, he was very hittable. But if we need to replace Anna Benson, Zach’s wife will do:
http://planningforever.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/gross7.jpg
Ian Snell’s peripherals aren’t too attractive either, but he misses a lot more bats. Plus he looks like my cousin. So that’s cool.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 20, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
RIGHT?
I’ve loved Snell for a while now, but his stats SUCK. A change of scenery could do great things…
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 20, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
isn't he tearing up
AAA right now? Maybe the change of scenery has already occurred and the dude is ready to roll?
Adam Lambert is indeed a rock god,so suck it.
by red shoe ranger on Jul 20, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
didnt he supposidly have an anxiety disorder as well?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 20, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
didn't Greinke?
let’s take a roll of the dice
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 20, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Well...
He’s doing alright. I suppose.
He’s an interesting option. It looks like most teams are offering a bad contract (aka Blalock) for a guy like Snell. 3.5 million this year (so the Rangers would pay roughly half that) and 4.25 next year wouldn’t be bad. Problem is that if you do something like that will the Rangers still have the $ to go after a guy like Sheets next year. Will Sheets even be that expensive after sitting out an entire season?
You could probably get Snell right now for a C+ guy if you are willing to take his contract. The Pirates seem more than willing to deal their entire team away right now.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
that ain't a bad contract...
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 20, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Nellie...
after seeing how difficult it was for MY to swing the bat last year with a fractured finger(s) can we expect the same with Cruz? I hope it isn’t serious, like they say, but it does concern me a little.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
You never like to see anybody get hurt
but Cruz’s inability to hit LH’s was/is one of this things biggest problems but there is a silver lining to this injury.
Now we’re going to see what life would be like (at least for a few days) without Cruz around the team.
I’d get Cruz healthy and then see what we could get for him on the open market.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
Splits
.640 versus LHP, .948 versus RHP. But the PA’s are not balanced,
80 games 222 AB versus right handers
41 games 83 AB versus lefties
He does have a better walk rate against RHP, though. But given his overall productivity, wouldn’t want him traded unless he brings back a vitally needed return. Since the injury is on his throwing hand, that could be a worry in RF.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Jul 20, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Ed
Cruz is a bad defender (although he’s fast and has a cannon for an arm). Too many bad routes to fly-balls.
This team needs a corner OF who can mash leftys and Cruz never has.
Cruz is 30 years old next July.
We need to make room for Josh in a corner spot.
He’s had a fabulous season this year but I’d sell while I can for a similiar player who mashes leftys.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 20, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Bad defender????
Where in the hell did you come up with that? Amound qualifying OF, he has the 5 best UZR and UZR/150??
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
Don't confuse him with stats.
His highly trained eyes and baseball accumen can’t be questioned.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
Splits
Don’t appear to make a convincing argument other than he’s a little up and down. To move him might be OK, if you could land a switch hitter with high OBP from both sides … wait, that’s Milton Bradley!
Splits at http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7681/splits
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Jul 20, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
i would rather it be somebody
you could count on for 150 games, a fractured finger might mean the end of Board Games career
by blueballlefty on Jul 20, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah he fails the durability test
AQlbeit that ‘08 OBP is sorely missed. I’m sort of waiting for Borbon to come up permanently (his AAA line currently is .307/.373/.395). And as Josh commented in an interview, there are more walls to hit in LF and RF than in CF, so Julio might be good at leadoff and in the speed field (LF). Begs the question about what to do with Byrd, though.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Jul 20, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
bad defender?
as evidenced by the fact he is the best at his position in baseball according to almost all (or all) defensive metrics?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 20, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
You can cover a lot of ground in the OF
and still not be a good defender.
Cruz has marvelous physical talent but he still takes bad routes to fly balls more than any other Ranger OF I watch.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 20, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
and still catches the ball.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Jul 20, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
hey that doesnt matter
a bad route trumps all!
yea, its alarming, but if he takes bad routes and stillc atches the ball isnt it worth anything?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 20, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
What baseball needs is a saber statistic
to quantify bad routes to fly balls.
Until that happens we just dont know if he takes bad routes or not.
ok so your like d moore
defense stats dont mean jack because you watch him every day
you probably think y betancourt was a great pickup for the fighting hillmans, right?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 20, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
I think defensive metrics
are still a work in progress and I don’t think Betancourt was a great pick-up for the not-so Feisty Hillmans.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 20, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
so you totally ignore them?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 20, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
I do not totally ignore defensive metrics
but I’m not sure which metrics are the most reliable (tell the true story) hence, my comment that those stats are still a work in progress.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 20, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
No he ignores them
if they dont support his pt.
by Michael Cave on Jul 20, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
I think Nelson Cruz covers a lot of ground
and has a fantastic arm but I think he also takes a lot of boneheaded routes to flyballs.
Is that clear enough, Cave?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 20, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Is he missing a lot of balls he should be getting to with better routes??
I agree he seems to take the scenic route a bit too much for my tastes, but I really can’t recall a lot of balls I expected him to batch that he didn’t, except for a few balls coming in.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
bking
Unfortunately, baseballreference.com doesn’t have a column denoting bad routes to fly balls but my own personal recollection is that Cruz took a couple of really bad routes in Detroit, one in SFO and another one in Texas back in April when the Rangers were playing the O’s.
I know there have been more times where he’s screwed up on getting to a flyball this year but I can’t be any more specific than what I referenced above.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 20, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
+1
That’s the kind of injury I’d rather allow him a couple days to heal from than sticking him right back in the lineup. Wash already seems to have lost a great deal of confidence in him, benching him and now batting him in the bottom of the order lately… Cruz doesn’t need a busted finger making him look bad and possibly giving Gutmaster 3000 an excuse to bench him again.
"You know, I’m playing entirely too much." - Andruw Jones
"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels
Was about to post the same thing
I would almost rather shelve him for a couple weeks or how long it would take to get completely healed and call up Borbon or Golson than have him out there hurt. Last year Young was hurt and it sapped his power but he was still able to hold a decent average. I don’t know if nellie can hold a decent average and if he loses his power he is very meh to me.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Davis
What is the event/cicumstances the Rangers are waiting for to recall Davis? 100 AB? More walks? Working all fields?
by Jack Nicholson 1974 on Jul 20, 2009 9:52 AM CDT reply actions
Whats the need right now?
Hank is playing fine at first even flashing some good defense and Jones is doing fine at DH. Let Chris continue to mash in AAA and hopefully the longer he spends down there the more pissed he gets so when he comes back he tears shit up
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
"Jones is doing fine at DH"
You have a very low threshold for “fine”.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
Better than CD was doing while here
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
A hamster with a twig
Would do better at the plate than CD was doing.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
I think Jones is doing okay at DH
The biggest problem is that we are relying on him to be our cleanup hitter. It would have been nice if other players would have performed on the levels we thought they could then Jones would be nothing more than an awesome luxury hitting 7th
by Michael Cave on Jul 20, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Jones doesn't bat 7th or 8th
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
Thats a whole nother issue
As long as Kins is leading off and Hamilton is 3rd we are going to be searching for a true cleanup hitter. Hank struggled higher in the order and has now gotten back in a groove where he’s at. Byrd was hot for awhile in cleanup but everyone hates him there. Nellie has struggled of late and with Hank entrenched in the 5 spot its either 4 or 6 for Cruz.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Well, the 4 walks in his last 3 games are somewhat encouraging
But he desperately needs to do something other than hit the occasional homer.
"You know, I’m playing entirely too much." - Andruw Jones
"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels
Can't argue with that
Although all it would take is a 30 or 40 point uptick in his BA of late to make his numbers look very very nice
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Yeah, that's all...
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
In a small sample size it doesn't take much to do that
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
So you're telling me,
a career .259 hitter who has hit .209 over his last 960 ABs, is going to just have a 30-40 point uptick in his BA. Just like that.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
On his seasonal line.....no
I was referring to his July numbers of .195/.298/.585 in 47 PAs. If he simply gets his average up to .230 for the month his OBP and SLG will look very respectable.
On a side note I had no idea he was a career .259 hitter. I guess I just assumed because he was so good for so long as a kid he was closer to .285-.300 lifetime.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
He's a career .260 hitter
Whos hitting .230 right now and right around .200 in July. If he brings his July average up to .230 its only gonna raise his season numbers slightly.
Im not saying i expect the guy to all of a sudden start hitting .300
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
only 30-40 points?
heh
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 20, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
trading Hank for Snell?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 20, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Why would we want to get rid of Hank?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
trading Hank for anybody is what I meant
I didn’t have the time, nor do I have the inclination right now to look up who their 1st baseman is, but off the top of my head, is it a LaRoche brother?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 20, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow just noticed that Salty's
OPS+ is lower than CD’s. Ouch….
yea, I really think Salty has been the most frustrating player for me to watch this whole season
at least he seems to know the strikezone yet he still has some of the most pathetic ABs i’ve seen a ML have. He’ll go from one at bat where he worked it to a 3-2 count with a good eye, to just flailing at three straight pitches nowhere near the zone.
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
+1
"You know, I’m playing entirely too much." - Andruw Jones
"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels
Kinsler
2 HRs last night and I still feel like he’s killing the team. Completely illogical I know. What a weird year.
It's probably because he's the leadoff hitter
And has a .306 OBP since April ended.
"You know, I’m playing entirely too much." - Andruw Jones
"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels
I would much rather...
see Ian take a walk or line a double to the opposite field than hit a HR right now. I don’t need convincing that he has power and can go yard. What I want to see is him show he can get on base more often and line the ball all over the field. It doesn’t look like he will be moved out of the leadoff spot, so those things are more import imo than him hitting HR’s right now.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Is there any doubt that Kinsler can hit or walk?
I’d much rather him single handedly win us games like yesterday than show us he can work a walk or line a double.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
yeah there is doubt
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
An oppo double
would have won the game too. Just saying…haha :-)
by Michael Cave on Jul 20, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
agreed.
bitching about winning the game like that, with him starting and ending the game for us, is ridic. Save it for one of his 0-4 games.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 20, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
expectations
Jamey ended his latest email with “Kinsler starts to look like Ian Kinsler again.” Just what does that mean? What are the expectations for Kinsler? Do you expect him to go on a tear like he did in April when he had a >1.00 OPS? That is something he does only once a year. Are you expecting the .319/.375/.517 hitter he was last year? His “career year”. Or do you expect a .282/.353/.477 hitter who kills LHP but struggles vs RHP and away from RBiA?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
I don't think anybody, not even Ian
Really knows what the real Ian Kinsler looks like.
He seems to be as volatile as he is talented.
"You know, I’m playing entirely too much." - Andruw Jones
"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels
I think it means hes gonna go down with a season ending injury here in the next couple weeks
Its about that time of the year ya know
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Dominant August
is what I expect and hope for
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 20, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Kinsler is becoming
the same type of lead-off hitter that Bobby (the father) Bonds was with the Giants.
Bonds was one of the very best players of the ‘70s. He was a lead-off hitter but he’d hit 30+ bombs, steal that many bases but also strike out 150+ times and he took a ton of shit from almost every local team’s media he played for in his career.
A big part of his problems and the reason he bounced around so much came from the fact that he was a drunk but I think a lot of it stemmed from him being miscast as a lead-off hitter.
I’m beginning to wonder if Kinsler wouldn’t be better off hitting lower in the order. His skillset screams middle of the order hitter and there’s a lot of pressure that comes when you’re the lead-off hitter (that Kinsler is not responding to well).
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
I think most
of us can agree that right now Kinsler is not a leadoff hitter. As others pointed out yesterday if we move him out of the leadoff spot a Murphy/Andrus leadoff hitter platoon is probably the best way to go. It would be nice if Borbon grabs a spot next yr in the OF and forces his way into the leadoff spot. Remember too, as it stands Kinsler is having his second best OPS+ yr of his career. PLUS he has been healthy all yr too which has been a problem in the past
by Michael Cave on Jul 20, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Its a great OPS but
its totally inflated by his slugging. A leadoff hitter should never have a OBP below league average. How is it his 2nd best OPS of his career when he is at .821 and his average of his career is .830?
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
Very high OPS last yr
has had OPS’s of .796, .801, .896, and .821 so far.
And i agree with you on him not being a leadoff hitter. I said as much in the post you responded to.
by Michael Cave on Jul 20, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
got ya.
didnt have each years numbers just had the career average. His OPS is nice but not when its so inflated by his slugging %. Trust me, i want more than anything for Ian to get back to at least some form of April. I just dont understand why the management of this team, and including the front office, doesnt step in and do something about it.
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
I really think
they just need to drop him in the lineup. Hit him 3rd, 4th, or 5th. Maybe some of his warning track flyballs turn into sac flies…
by Michael Cave on Jul 20, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
totally agree
Thats what frustrates me the most. If he is positioned properly in the lineup, this team is much better offensively, just by moving him down 2 or 4 sports. It would make the wold of difference.
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
i'm confused
why would dropping Kins in the lineup turn warning track flyouts into HR’s?
Not that I disagree with dropping him in the order mind you.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Jul 20, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Where does he say it will turn into HRs?
Maybe some of his warning track flyballs turn into sac flies
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
That's what I get for trying to work while reading LSB
so I shall stop working now.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Jul 20, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Sac Flies
A preseumption that there might be more runners in scoring position if he were down in the order.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Jul 20, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Umm, he didn't say HRs, he said sac flies...
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
First!!
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
or not....
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Sorry read fail I take it all back.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Jul 20, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
until Borbon is ready for every day at bats
I don’t think we’ll see it, but I agree
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 20, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Will Carroll tweet
Staring at Cot’s. I can see the Rangers getting Halladay on prospects and affording him next year/beyond. Just don’t see taking on $5m now.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
Well if the
young guys do pan out we probably will have some cheaper productive players
by Michael Cave on Jul 20, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
I loved that win last night but....
I really wish it wasnt Kinsler that hit the walk-off. I love Kinsler but by hitting that bomb it makes everyone feel like he is back and should still be our leadoff hitter. He had 6 AB with 2 bombs and 3 more strikeouts! We cannot have our lead-off hitter striking out 3 times in any game, regardless if there are extra innings involved. It makes me sick to watch his approach at the plate. I was watching the game with a 12 year old the other day and after 2 Kinsler ABs he was like “Why does he swing so hard and always swing upwards? It seams like he either hits a homer or a pop fly to the SS?” From a 12 year old? You would think someone in that organizaiton would see the same issues and maybe have a serious conversation with Kins!
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
"from the mouths of babies...."
Never argue with a fool. Onlookers might not be able to tell you apart.
Popup
that name should be retired for Barajas and placed right on Mr. Kinsler.
by bdavison94 on Jul 20, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
its starting to feel that way
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 20, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
serious conversations
are not Wash’s specialty. Mgmt seems unwilling to address lackluster play. For example see the extreme “patience” shown with Davis, the failure to bitch slap Kins and ask him, “do you know what your role with this team is”, the failure to “bench” Salty occasionally and letting him know that he’s not being set down to rest but because he needs to get a clue at the plate, and the biggest example would be nary a negative word mentioned regarding Hamilton, whose performance has been excruciating this season. Oh and I almost forgot, the teams failure to address the horrible base running exhibited by Kins and others this year. Oh and the OF’s inability to hit cut-offs.
Now, maybe all this has been addressed behind closed doors…..
Our best hitters to watch at the plate this year: Elvis and Murphy. Amazing….
Adam Lambert is indeed a rock god,so suck it.
by red shoe ranger on Jul 20, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Acquiring pitching
Wouldn’t it be cheaper and also, y’know, make a lot more sense to acquire a bat?
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jul 20, 2009 10:36 AM CDT reply actions
That's kinda my thought, too...
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
the Rangers need a
- or 4 hitter. They don’t come cheap.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
Did you use a # for the "1"?
Just for the heck of it?
"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09
by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 20, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah
I tried to type the number sign and the number 3. I could have just made a typo.
test #3
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
naw see
#3
test #3
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 20, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
hmm
- 3
“# 3” = mess up if there is a # and then a space
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 20, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
The Rangers have...
two cleanup guys. Kinsler and Cruz. Wash just refuses to hit them there.
Seeing Jones or Byrd bat cleanup drives me nuts.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Can you imagine
the media reaction? National and local. Good lord.
The questions are;
Who? What’s the cost? What position(I assume 1b/dh)? If so, what to do with Hank and Andruw?
Never argue with a fool. Onlookers might not be able to tell you apart.
nick johnson
still on the radar
willingham, but he would probably break down ASAP
Nick Johnson (if healthy) > Hank > Andruw Jones
that said who knows what it would take to get him
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 20, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Agree, but i don't think they need a
4 slot power bat, they need someone with a good approach, someone with a good OBP. Someone these hackers can see first hand that will wake them up a little.
According to FanGraphs: Rangers WPA among hitters is last in AL
It does seem we need to add a bat more than pitching.
by diamond_dave on Jul 20, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
It would be nice to aquire a bat....
but old School Brotha won’t bench Byrd, Jones, or Blalock….those are his boys.
by death of the cool on Jul 20, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Waaaay OT
Dayton Moore says Hillman is staying this year and next.
"Absolutely," he says. "We’re all in this thing together. You can’t keep changing managers and coaches. Continuity is very, very important. If you’ve got people who work hard and people who care and are smart, you stick with them. Because if you stick together through the tough times, we’ve got a chance to win here and do something special long-term.
"You just can’t keep reshuffling."
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/royals/story/1332649.html
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
So it looks like they can both get fired after next season
when the Royals have another deadl ast finish.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Jul 20, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
wow, you are so awesoe josey
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
I would like Hamilton to make more contact.
His almost-hit to left was nice last night but Span just made a nice play. His swings and misses are getting nauseating and way too frequent. Even if they are followed by the occasional hit.
It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca
Yeah how dare he
hitting a baseball is so easy
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
11 days to figure out whether to buy or sell or hold
Right now, this team does not strike me as a club that can win simply by adding an arm, even one as talented as Halladay. It’s an anemic offense and has been so for almost two months now.
I love the idea of Roy Halladay in a Rangers uniform, but I can’t see trading any of the top tier of prospects for him. You only make such a move if it gives you a huge jump in your odds of making the playoffs. And right now, whether the Rangers see October really depends on the bats.
If the offense continues this pathetic display, I have to think you consider dealing Millwood instead of trading for Halladay or some other pitcher. The only problem with that is the gigantic PR hit the team would take. But this team isn’t going anywhere unless they can reverse course soon.
Go Rice Owls!
Unless...
you can get someone for a guy like Blalock or Padilla then you hold imo.
Keep the chips and stay the course for now.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Vet player defends Hillman
"Obviously, things aren’t going well right now, and people look to make changes wherever they’re possible," Mark Teahen said. "But I’m not going to pin what’s gone on with our team on Trey."
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/royals/story/1334340.html
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
LOL
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Jul 20, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
And for the record
before anybody tries pin that I think Hillman is a good manager…
I think Hillman did a good job last year (the team improved it’s record and other critical aspects of their play) but that’s a very, very difficult job and I’m still not sure of what kind of manager he is.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 20, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
hmm
how about pinning it on the 3b that has played 81 games in 2009 that has a career 100 ops+?
their team is god aweful. seriously
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 20, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
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"You know, I’m playing entirely too much." - Andruw Jones
"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels
When Josey joins them they are.
"You know, I’m playing entirely too much." - Andruw Jones
"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels
However
With my handy-dandy troll blocker, which I now have installed in Opera, all I see is alot of “Molahepoleha! Molahepoleha! Olee Olay oh-ho! Ileoanda! Ileoandabalichialhondo!”
It’s very calming.
"You know, I’m playing entirely too much." - Andruw Jones
"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels
LiamP
When are you actually going to contribute to a discussion?
You’re like some kind of consultant or pidgeon who never contributes to the greater good in any form but continues to shit all over everything and then fly away.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 20, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Not even close
I don’t ever go to the GDTs. They anger me. This just mildly annoys me.
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http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/sportatorium/2009/07/neftali_feliz_deal_or_no_deal.php
Feliz is only 21 years old with a screaming fastball that has reached over 100 mph, and his command has improved since his move to the pen. Right-hander Brandon McCarthy compared watching Feliz throw at a pitching camp in February to the awe inspired by outfielder Josh Hamilton when he crushes balls in batting practice.
“It doesn’t look like he’s trying. It kinda pisses me off,” he said. “He could throw 110 [mph] if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special.”
by GregoryM on Jul 20, 2009 12:09 PM CDT reply actions
umm
was this suppose to be posted 4 months ago?
by blueballlefty on Jul 20, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Seems like
You missed the point of the article.
by brettgardner on Jul 20, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
olney
says that gomez could be a candidate for non-tender in 2011
uhh what?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 20, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Whats Minnesotas CF prospect situation like?
With those numbers I could see it happening if they got someone ready in the wings. Most likely they would try and trade him but with those numbers you aren’t gonna get anything in return anyway
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
who're these lovely people?
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by Walter Sobchak on Jul 20, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
that's just awesome
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by Walter Sobchak on Jul 20, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
each week two women switch cities just to get laid
sounds good to me… tell her i’m in dallas if she wants to fuck
by davisdingergoingdeep on Jul 20, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
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