LSB Community Prospect Project: Mid-Season #18

Poveda

then Moscoso.

Not sure after that, thinking Warner and kinda considering Hurley.

Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.

by jonthefon on Jul 22, 2009 5:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Likewise

Good grief, this system is deep.

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by Conjunction on Jul 22, 2009 6:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If they sign Scheppers and Purke

does that mean they get to retain the #1 tag even after graduations?

Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.

by jonthefon on Jul 22, 2009 6:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

but there’s still like six weeks of games to be played and the signing period to determine all of that. The big thing to remember is that system depth is important, but BA places a huge amount of weight on the upper tier players, and Texas most likely won’t have the best set of upper tier players.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 22, 2009 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Smoak, Feliz, Perez

Is an awfully nice upper tier.

by rothe on Jul 22, 2009 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

probably trumped by

Posey, Bumgarner, and Alderson.

But not by much, now that I think about it a little.

There's more to the picture than meets the eye.

by tricer on Jul 22, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nah

Alderson is so overrated.

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Jul 22, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

we'll see

He has scuffled a bit in his last 5 starts. I’d still love to have him.

There's more to the picture than meets the eye.

by tricer on Jul 22, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i disagree

i like alderson a lot, quite underrated

that said, im not so sure that posey/bumgardner/alderson beat smoak/feliz/perez on a talent level, but having all 3 of them at higher levels than perez doenst hlep

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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by knockoutking on Jul 22, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes but

That and the two draft picks are it. Other organization(s) will have more than five premium players, especially after the trade deadline. Borbon is really the only possibility, and I’m not sure that he’s going to have BA, et al fall in love with him at this point for his subtle improvements.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 22, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Who you think could top us in the BA rankings

If the Rangers get 5+ guys in their top 100 rankings (and not just 5 bottom of the list guys), who else could top that or even match that? And do any of those teams have the depth that the Rangers have? Looking at last year’s list, 3 teams had more than 5 guys in the top 100 (including the Rangers), so I think if they get at least 5 guys again then they would definitely be top 3 again with a shot at number 1.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

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-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 22, 2009 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think we're still an elite system.

Whether we rank #1 again is rather irrelevant as far as I’m concerned.

I’m not the kind of league-wide prospect head that some on here are, but I don’t think we’ve taken a huge step back from where we were last year and so should be right in the running again.

This has been said before, but I think a lot of that will depend on who graduates, both for us (Borbon, Feliz and Smoak being among the most prominent) and for others, along with any huge swing trades.

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by thedirkatron on Jul 23, 2009 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree that it doesn't make that much of a difference whether we're the top ranked or top 3 ranked farm system.

I’m more just curious why Z thinks BA will rank us lower. I’m with you that the farm is still strong. I think that between Perez taking the next step in his development and the addition of Purke and Scheppers (hopefully), the quality of this farm system is still up to par with the best in the league despite the graduation of Andrus and Holland.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

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by Gdawg on Jul 23, 2009 2:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Poveda update

After his start last night, Poveda now ranks 5th in the Texas League in WHIP (1.21), 8th in ERA (3.21), and 6th in GB% (56%). The only starting pitchers ahead of him are likely Top 100 prospects (Reckling and Chacin), fringe and non-prospects in their mid-20’s, and Kasey Kiker.

With the exception of K/9, Poveda’s Texas League numbers are essentially the same as the highly regarded Jhoulys Chacin (21 vs 21 yo, 3.21 vs 3.17 ERA, 1.21 vs 1.19 WHIP, 3.21 vs 3.08 BB/9, .233 vs .232 BAA, 0.54 vs 0.88 HR/9, 4.12 vs 4.02 FIP, 4.50 vs 7.56 K/9, 6 vs 6 IP/Start).

by spurdynasty on Jul 22, 2009 7:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Chacin-Poveda k/9

That is a significant difference in a telling indicator. No matter how similar two pitchers are in all the other stats, a difference of 3+ k/9 means that the two pitchers are worlds apart IMO.

There's more to the picture than meets the eye.

by tricer on Jul 22, 2009 7:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Poveda vs Chacin

Chacin is a Top 100 prospect because he is a groundball pitcher with decent strike-out and walk rates. I am not arguing that Poveda is a Top 100 prospect, but I do think that he has the highest floor of anyone left on our prospect list and I would be very surprised if he is not a productive major league starter.

One other thing – it is not as if Poveda doesn’t know how to strike guys out. His career strike-out rate is 8.1/9 which is slightly higher than Chacin’s career marker (7.9/9). The big question in my mind is whether 2009 was set aside as a transitional/developmental year for Poveda. If that is the case, then you might see him up his K-rate next year. And then you have something really interesting.

by spurdynasty on Jul 22, 2009 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

trending K-rate

I don’t have any studies to back this up, but my instinct tells me that K-rate trends tend to be a one way street. As prospects climb through the system I think you usually see K-rates decline. I would guess that it would be pretty rare to see a guy with a downward trending k-rate reverse that trend as he moves up a level.

There's more to the picture than meets the eye.

by tricer on Jul 22, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No studies here, either

But I could see K rate going up if a player is young enough.

That’s still what stands out most about Poveda, for me. If he’s healthy he’ll have around 150 innings AA and above as a 21-y.-o. this season.

They could leave him in the minors another year just to refine his repertoire, or do him like Holland.

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Jul 22, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Poveda's k-rate

2006 (18 yo) – 7.8 K/9
2007 (19 yo) – 9.0 K/9
2008 (20 yo) – 9.6 K/9
2009 (21 yo) – 4.5 K/9

K-rates drop at higher levels, but Poveda’s 5 K/9 drop cannot be explained by differences between A+ and AA hitters. Instead, it seems clear that his pitch sequencing and usage have likely been altered from last year. The big question is whether increased use of his change-up and better pitch sequencing will allow him to increase his strikeout rate without sacrificing his ability to induce groundballs.

by spurdynasty on Jul 22, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Odd

the Rangers have quite a few pitchers succeeding despite less than ideal K rates. Millwood, Feldman and Hunter prominent among them.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jul 22, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Expanding upon this point...

First of all, the k/9 stat is misleading. He is more efficient this year, so he is facing fewer batters on average per inning, so k percentages works better in this situation. Last year, he k’d about 25% of batters he faced in Bakersfield, this year he is K’ing a little over 12%. The walk rate also dropped, but not quite as much (from 10.3% to 8.6%). This looks bad, but the fascinating thing is that it is leading to better batted ball results, namely, the increase in ground ball percentages.

If we assume that the drop in k rate is simply because his stuff is not quite good enough to dominate AA as it did A+, one would also expect either increases in walk rate (from batter having better plate discipline), or a deterioration in the results of batted balls and/or increase in batter faced per inning (from them hitting his pitches harder and getting more men on base). However, neither of these things has happened. This leads me to believe that the drop in K rate is at least partly caused by a change in the pitching approach.

His situation is a bit different from Beavan I think. For all we know, he still has a ML-quality strikeout pitch in his changeup. Beavan doesn’t have this. The drop in k rate a cause for concern, but I definitely agree that part of it is just him learning how to pitch. Of course, as with pretty much every other minor league prospect, the facts are few and speculations many – it’s hard to tell how exactly how many glasses we should be filling with our tears.

by Telegraph on Jul 22, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Chacin

Sickels has a write up of Chacin thats pretty good today. I went ahead and asked how he would compare Chacin to poveda. Haven’t been back to check for an answer.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 22, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Chacin has noticeably better stuff

but I know some of you guys require numbers for any such discussion.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 22, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

In the absence of a Zywica scouting report,

we (I) have to rely on the numbers.

I would be very interested in hearing your take on Poveda. I would also be interested in hearing what you prefer about Chacin’s stuff since he seems to have a repertoire that is similar to Poveda (low 90’s fastball, plus change-up, occasionally above average curveball).

by spurdynasty on Jul 22, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And a Zywica on Moscoso would be much appreciated, as well

by spurdynasty on Jul 22, 2009 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Moscoso

by tyd3311 on Jul 22, 2009 7:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

+1

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Jul 22, 2009 7:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yup

domination over AAA hitters is impressive. He’s near-ready for ML action right now, and there is value in that.

There's more to the picture than meets the eye.

by tricer on Jul 22, 2009 7:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm gonna have to go with the elderly, skinny, soft-tossing non-prospect

You know, the one with a 1.92 FIP and 5.60 K/BB in OKC right now.

Call me crazy, but that’s just how I roll.

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"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels

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by lonestarJon on Jul 22, 2009 8:17 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

im going with moscoso here

poveda probably next

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Taking steroids is only gonna make him whiff on those sliders in the dirt with more fury." -thedirkatron

by knockoutking on Jul 22, 2009 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Samsies.

Then Hurley, and then after that… I dunno.

"You know, I’m playing entirely too much." - Andruw Jones

"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels

Hello Win Column

by lonestarJon on Jul 22, 2009 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Okay...

I’m going to request that you never type “samsies” ever again.

Ever.

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by slc ranger on Jul 22, 2009 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

I would probably take it a step further...

And suggest the word be banned from the blog, actually.

"You know, I’m playing entirely too much." - Andruw Jones

"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels

Hello Win Column

by lonestarJon on Jul 22, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Escobar

I’m just being contrarian at this point since we’ve bascially reached the peloton of Rangers prospects.

Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.

by TheJeezus on Jul 22, 2009 8:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Although

my last vote for NeRa was a mis-/fail-vote. I meant to vote for Poveda.

Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.

by TheJeezus on Jul 22, 2009 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Poveda all the way

He’s more than holding his own at age 21 in (22 in Sept.) AA while possibly blossoming in AAA in the 2nd half while Moscoso is doing well as a 25 year old (26 in Nov.). Poveda can repeat AAA the next 3 years and still be younger than what Moscoso is now.

by Coolbean04 on Jul 22, 2009 8:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Poveda

Even though it’s going to take another vote.

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Jul 22, 2009 8:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Poveda for me

He had a very nice second half last year in Bakersfield, and as impressive as Moscoso’s low 90’s fastball is, I still think he is a reliever. Poveda’s breaking ball has improved rapidly over the last two seasons, and he still has the killer change and average FB.

by ramjam36 on Jul 22, 2009 8:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I think you will see the K rate rise

by ramjam36 on Jul 22, 2009 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Can't argue with production

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by bioaggie on Jul 22, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Beltre

is going to be the poster boy for 5 tool prospects that flameout. By the time he makes it to AA he will be no better than organizational filler.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 22, 2009 9:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

He is starting to remind me

of a CF version of Joaquin Arias.

There's more to the picture than meets the eye.

by tricer on Jul 22, 2009 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If he OPS'd .750 next year as a 20 year old in AA that'd be pretty nice.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

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by thedirkatron on Jul 22, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he is not hitting in high A

why would they promote him to Frisco?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 22, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Like was mentioned elsewhere

This year is still more about development than numbers. Us fans can only see the numbers and thats how we view prospects. The organization however sees these players everyday and outside the 9 innings that we know about.

I think he starts next year back in Bakersfield but with a good month or so he could get the fast track to Frisco. Then again the aggressiveness the Rangers have shown with their top flight prospects it wouldn’t surprise me to see him in Frisco to start next year regardless of his stats this year

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 22, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Beltre is a different case

It would shock me to see him start the year in AA. Frankly, I’d be surprised if he got more than a cup of coffee in AA next year.

by rothe on Jul 22, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That was a reference to Arias.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jul 22, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well im glad thats settled

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 22, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Heh

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by Rodney on Jul 22, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

equally

by the time he makes AA he could also be 20 or 21?

clearly the rangers should DFA his ass.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Taking steroids is only gonna make him whiff on those sliders in the dirt with more fury." -thedirkatron

by knockoutking on Jul 22, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i mean really

why should we take a chance on anyone with talent? i think we should draft 50 college junior/senior RP next year. then go with 13 RPs on the roster

/sarcasm

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Taking steroids is only gonna make him whiff on those sliders in the dirt with more fury." -thedirkatron

by knockoutking on Jul 22, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Poveda.............again

I think we’re gonna look back at this time next year and scratch our heads at how we let this guy drop so far.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 22, 2009 9:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Could say the same thing about Moscoso

by tyd3311 on Jul 22, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

and at least half a dozen others

It’s like any other farm system, but in 3-D! Depth is a good thing. I went Poveda again—5th time’s the charm.

by naropean on Jul 22, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm ready!

:)

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"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Jul 22, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ehh

25, almost 26 year olds tearing up AAA doesn’t do much for me. Its nice to see don’t get me wrong but its not exactly breathtaking either

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 22, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Point is, he could become a pretty good pitcher in the major leagues very fast.

by tyd3311 on Jul 22, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

see but its not like he struggled at low A for 3 years

started off his career late
+had TJ

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Taking steroids is only gonna make him whiff on those sliders in the dirt with more fury." -thedirkatron

by knockoutking on Jul 22, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I get all that

But it doesn’t change the fact hes almost 26 while Poveda is almost 22 and only a level lower and having good success.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 22, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

sorry

just saying thats why i dont think his age matters as much to me

i understand your viewpoint though

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Taking steroids is only gonna make him whiff on those sliders in the dirt with more fury." -thedirkatron

by knockoutking on Jul 22, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep

Every prospect doesn’t conform to simple age relative to level statistical formulas.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 22, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

A to tha men

He’s a top 15 guy for me.

That's why they call them business sox

by egriffey on Jul 22, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hurley until he gets on

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 22, 2009 10:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

even if he had a labrum tear?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Taking steroids is only gonna make him whiff on those sliders in the dirt with more fury." -thedirkatron

by knockoutking on Jul 22, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why is no one

voting for Profar or Sardinas?

by Schultzy on Jul 22, 2009 10:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

They're 16ish years old

And we basically have only the fact that the Rangers paid them $$$ to go off of.

by Trickman on Jul 22, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

WOW..this is great

Link

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Jul 22, 2009 11:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Fanpost

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Jul 22, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

okay

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Jul 22, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

☺

☻

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Jul 22, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Veiny, very rigid prospect boner...

Starting to feel lightheaded.

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Jul 22, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Engel Beltre

The college i was going to play baseball had a guy on the team who was a close friend to engel. I was wearing a texas rangers hat and he ask me if I ever heard of engel beltre. I was like hell yeah! He told me he is a very good friend of his and has his number. Well he pulls his phone out and begins to call his ass, and then they start saying all kinds of stuff in spanish. Then he hands me the phone and I asked are you ready for the bigs? He said “hell yeah man but i dont give a fuck”, We had a quick convo and he seemed like a really chilled guy but he really thinks hes a stud, which he is at that age. I hope he keeps working hard.

And by the way i saw a photo of him in a sick ass red Range Rover with his name all over the interior. He pretty much has a ballers attitude but still a cool ass guy.

Go Rangers!!! Go Sooners!!!

by mchang4 on Jul 22, 2009 12:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

.

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by Maximilian on Jul 22, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yikes

by ScratchHorn on Jul 22, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dang. One vote for Gomez?

Where’s the love?

Trade for Ian Snell.

by sprite on Jul 22, 2009 1:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

he's next in line for me, once Poveda gets on

He has a nice mid-rotation ceiling and good stuff. Sounds like a guy who will fare better once he escapes the Cal League.

by naropean on Jul 22, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Where’s the love?

Underneath that pile of walks.

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Jul 22, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey D-Tron

Please put Andrew Doyle on the list when you get a chance. Thanks.

It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca

by bioaggie on Jul 22, 2009 2:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

really?

doyle profiles as what? a middle reliever?

strop >>> doyle for me (but then again thats me lol)

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Taking steroids is only gonna make him whiff on those sliders in the dirt with more fury." -thedirkatron

by knockoutking on Jul 23, 2009 6:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs