LSB Community Prospect Project: Mid-Season #20
by thedirkatron on Jul 24, 2009 10:58 AM CDT
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A runaway.
After garnering 57% of 168 votes, Omar Poveda has won the right to be called the LSB Community #19 prospect!
The List So Far:
1. 1b, Justin Smoak
2. RHP, Neftali Feliz
3. LHP, Martin Perez
4. RHP, Tanner Scheppers
5. LHP, Matt Purke
6. RHP, Wilmer Font
7. (Tie) RHP, Blake Beavan
7. (Tie) CF, Julio Borbon
9. RHP, Tommy Hunter
10. RHP, Michael Main
11. LHP, Kasey Kiker
12. LHP, Robbie Ross
13. C, Max Ramirez
14. RHP, Joe Wieland
15. 1b/OF, Mitch Moreland
16. RHP, Wilfredo Boscan
17. OF, Engel Beltre
18. RHP, Guillermo Moscoso
19. RHP, Omar Poveda
Time to move on to the vote for #20.
The polls are open, so go ahead and vote in the poll at the bottom and feel free to make any suggestions and/or criticisms in the comments below.
And, as always, please don't hesitate to tell me you want on the list for next time.
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I'm crazy for Telis
Gomez, Tullis, Pimentel, Madrigal, Strop, Hurley, Smith all deserve consideration here. This isn’t getting any easier.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jul 24, 2009 11:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Give me Strop
As t ball said this isn’t getting any easier.
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by boomer1 on Jul 24, 2009 11:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think I've got to go Madrigal here.
I’m to the point with him and watching what he’s done in OKC that I believe he’s good enough to be a succesful major league reliever right now… but personally I still don’t know that he’s got a real shot to develop into a closer. That lack of true closer ceiling kept me from voting for him until now, but I can’t let that concern stop me from voting for him here.
But, jeez. This is hard.
Comparing the guys like Madrigal, Lemon, Vallejo, Smith and Strop who are close but don’t have a lot of ceiling to “Will the ever see A+?”-type lotto tickets like Escobar, Alvarez, Sardinas and Profar is an exercise in insanity.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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by thedirkatron on Jul 24, 2009 11:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I went with Madrigal as well
other than the new latin kids, he’s the most likely to make an impact at the ML level of the remaining players, IMO.
He and Feliz in the bullpen in August/September could really really help this team.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 24, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going with the 0.00era sporting player man.
Trade for Ian Snell.
by sprite on Jul 24, 2009 11:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Andrew Doyle?
It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca
by bioaggie on Jul 24, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he means...
Zach Phillips, who currently has an ERA of 0.00 through 14 innings with the Frisco Roughriders. Phillips did, however, have an ERA of 1.23 in the 44 innings he played with the Bakersfield Blaze earlier in the season.
Greg Golson doesn't do extra base hits.
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by YourNameHere on Jul 24, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anthony Doyle
Doesn’t have a 0.00
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jul 24, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahh
you are correct sir. I was going off of the names at the top of shroom’s site where the numbers pop up when you put your mouse over the pitcher’s name.
His ERA is now 2.57 in 7 IP with 2 BB and 11 K’s.
Shroom needs to update his stuff. ;)
It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca
by bioaggie on Jul 24, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
updated - happy, Sparky?
Man, the prospect buffet can be a whip to update – about every 3rd time I do it, calendar.net eats my work and craps it back all over my lap. Thus beaten down, I fail to update it in a very timely manner. Two notes occurred to me while I was updating it …
- Robbie Ross’ stats are even better looking than whatever Dirkatron imagines he sees when he looks in a mirror.
- Juan Grullon is on the D.L. – JIC anybody was wondering. So, include him in yer prayers.
by shroomer on Jul 24, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just kidding Sparky.
Notice the cute little winky face I put at the end of that sentence. I appreciate all of your hard work and your site is the first I look at every morning.
Robbie Ross is a bad man.
I will pray for Mr. Grullon that he may have a fast and thorough recovery from whatever is ailing him.
It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca
by bioaggie on Jul 24, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kirkman
Wouldn’t have done it without reading the Parks/Cole/MJH piece.
If he’s passing the eyeball test, I’m believing his setbacks are mostly lingering effects of old injuries. I like this player, especially for next year.
He was very solid with consistency in the Cal League. About the only starter in this system who can say that this year.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jul 24, 2009 11:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This is where it gets really tough
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jul 24, 2009 11:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
First really tough one for me
Went Tim Smith. Debated between he, Tullis, Madrigal, Strop, and even Whittleman (due to his latest hot streak).
Went Smith because I think all those guys I debated over were pretty equal and we need some more positional guys on the list.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jul 24, 2009 11:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to see the list from last year at midseason.
It is amazing how far guys like Christian Santana and Clark Murphy have fallen. I can’t remember where or if they were ranked but they were pretty highly thought of at one point. I guess it just shows the boom/bust ratio. Both are still young but are really struggling right now.
It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca
by bioaggie on Jul 24, 2009 11:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Last year's mid-season list:
The Final List:
1. 1b, Chris Davis
2. RHP, Neftali Feliz
3. RHP, Eric Hurley
4. SS, Elvis Andrus
5. C, Maximiliano Ramirez
6. 1b, Justin Smoak
7. RHP, Michael Main
8. RHP, Blake “C-Wun” Beavan
9. C, Taylor Teagarden
10. LHP Kasey Kiker
11. OF, Engel Beltre
12. LHP, Matt Harrison
13. OF, Julio Borbon
14. LHP, Derek Holland
15. RHP, Tommy Hunter
16. RHP, Wilmer Font
17. RHP, Neil Ramirez
18. LHP, Martin Perez
19. OF, John Mayberry, Jr.
20. RHP, Thomas Diamond
21. SS, Marcus Lemon
22. RHP, Warner Madrigal
23. 2b, Jose Vallejo
24. 2b, German Duran
25. LHP, Robbie Ross
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jul 24, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still cant believe perez was that low
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jul 24, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, to be fair
he was only 12 at the time.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Jul 24, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you sir.
It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca
by bioaggie on Jul 24, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm gonna go Fabio
I feel like he is really gonna take off next year.
by tyd3311 on Jul 24, 2009 11:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Think we 40 him after the season?
Can you imagine a team having a big enough pair of man-balls to keep Fabio around all season a 12th/13th arm out of the ’pen?
I have a hard time seeing that, personally.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jul 24, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wont happen
and be shocked if he got taken in the rule 5
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jul 24, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yah, me too.
FWIW, here’s the list of our first time 40 eligibles:
Alfonzo, Miguel OF nd
Ballard, Michael P 2006
Bryan, Melvin P nd
Castillo, Fabio P nd
Feliz, Neftali P nd
Garr, Brennan P 2006
Gentry, Craig OF 2006
Gerrard, Grant OF 2006
Gonzalez, Julio 2B nd
Jones, Beau P 2005
Kirkman, Michael P 2005
Nevarez, Matt P 2005
Osuna, Renny IF 2005
Paisano, David OF nd
Phillips, Zach P 2004d
Pina, Manuel C nd
Puello, Albert C nd
Quintero, Jorge P nd
Santana, Cristian OF nd
Slusarz, John P 2006
Swanson, Glenn P 2005d
Tracy, Chad 1B 2006
Whittleman, John 3B 2005
Yan, Johan 3B nd
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jul 24, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wonder if someone will take a stab at Craig Gentry?
by tyd3311 on Jul 24, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking the same thing
Nice NL 5th OF, defensive replacement type.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
by Keynes on Jul 24, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could see him if a team needed a 5th OF with some speed/defense and didn't want to pay a vet for it.
I could also see one of the lefties going to a team looking to add a cheap LOOGY to their roster and was willing to give one of them a shot in ST to see if it could work.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jul 24, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, looking at that list...
One sure thing. (Neftali)
A couple of semi-interesting guys we’ll know more about in a few months. (Kirkman, and Whittleman).
A bunch of “meh”-ceilinged potential role-layers. (Gentry, Ousna, Beau Jones, Phillips, Pina.)
And then a few way too raw for anyone to take the plunge guys. (Fabio, The Latin Wind, the Artist Formerly Known as Cristian Santana.)
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jul 24, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see 4 we protect
Feliz, Kirkman, Phillips, and Whittleman
Gentry probably gets picked up by someone. And Pina may get chosen also. Next years list is even more intriguing
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jul 24, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, are we assuming he continues to mash out OPS's with a number in front of the dot?
Cause if he does that he’s probably a pretty fair candidate to get picked by someone.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jul 24, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If John Whittleman continues...
If for the next six weeks, John Whittleman continues with the numbers he’s got in July (.259/.449/.707), he’d very likely be considered among the top 100 prospects in baseball. Note that I don’t in any way expect that to happen. But if he did, he’d be a 22 year old in Double-A with about a .400 OBP, a .900 OPS and have 25-30 home runs for the year who’d have an unbelievable run fresh in the minds of scouts.
And although I mentioned it below, the Rangers also have to make a decision about Pedro Strop, who is signed to a minor league free agent contract. He can become a free agent again after this season unless the Rangers add him to the 40-Man Roster.
Greg Golson doesn't do extra base hits.
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by YourNameHere on Jul 24, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think our lack of 3B prospects leads us to protect him
We can always DFA him if we need to but having a guy of Youngs age at 3B and no true 3B prospect in the upper levels behind him is a scary thought.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jul 24, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But he's not a 3Bman
by most estimations.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Jul 24, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
German Duran
Yet another reason…
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jul 24, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pina
Hes a bubble guy for me, tons of upside to risk loosing and probaby stands on ok chance of being taken.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jul 24, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No offense, Rentzington, but just what the hell is Pina's upside?
He’s never hit and outside of one good month earlier this year he’s never given any real indication that he might ever hit.
How good is his defense that you’re ready to deem him a tons of upside guy?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jul 24, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pina
I think he has the ability to hit enough to be a solid defensive backup catcher. Defensively he plays well enough right now to be a teams el-cheapo backup.
I’d say pina is one of those players you’d need to see play to appreciate what he does, he isn’t a super-stud but i think he’s got enough potential that he could get snagged.
Perhaps tons of upside was a poor way to put it.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jul 24, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh, fair enough.
That’s actually about how I would’ve described him. The tools to be a solid defense-first backup catcher.
I’d obviously love to keep him, but if he got Rule-5’d I wouldn’t lose a wink of Dirkasleep over it.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jul 24, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yuk, kirkman/phillips/jones could all be drafted
i dont think we can protect more than one of them
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by blalock84 on Jul 24, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If that makes you sad, don't even think about looking at the eligibles for after 2010.
The fortypocalypse approaches, gentlemen.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jul 24, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Got a list?
You are obsessed with bodily wastes A turd being held under my nose, this team being a steaming pile, Jonny Donuts having a stinky diaper, the front office pissing themselves, the team crapping the bed…
I think you should seek counselling.
(AJM to Josey Donuts)
by Michael Cave on Jul 24, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lucas' site Rangers Rundown) has the best one.
In the links on the upper right.
And, no, I’m not linking to it.
It makes my head ’splode a little every time I see it.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jul 24, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
all you had to say is scariest environment imaginable.
You are obsessed with bodily wastes A turd being held under my nose, this team being a steaming pile, Jonny Donuts having a stinky diaper, the front office pissing themselves, the team crapping the bed…
I think you should seek counselling.
(AJM to Josey Donuts)
by Michael Cave on Jul 24, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's about 11 no-brainers on there
If anyone had dry Pampers still
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
by Keynes on Jul 24, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another name...
Remember that the Rangers signed Pedro Strop to a free agent minor league contract and he can become a free agent after the season if Texas doesn’t add him to the 40-Man Roster.
Greg Golson doesn't do extra base hits.
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by YourNameHere on Jul 24, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who is Melvin Bryan?
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jul 24, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't think I've ever heard the name.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Jul 24, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was a somewhat interesting (but older) DR
arm in ’08 that wasnt allowed to enter the US in ’09 due to visa issues.
by jparks77 on Jul 24, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's obviously using a fake name...
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Jul 24, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kennil Gomez
I’m hoping that his bad stats are just a result of the Cal League. Next year in Frisco I think he’ll bounce back in a similar manner to Poveda this year.
by naropean on Jul 24, 2009 11:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well
Poveda didn’t studdenly start walking everybody in A+.
That’s what sours me on Kennil. I wouldn’t be surprised if they sent him back there in 2010.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jul 24, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does Gomez
really get hurt by the Cal League? This is a man whose GB% has always been 60+.
I’m a white boy who doesn’t think a black man is good enough to manage my baseball team. - LSJ
"I really think that" - LSJ, on being asked by AirJordan
by FirebatM3 on Jul 24, 2009 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hindman made the comment
that pitchers that rely on movement seem to be affected more than others in the Cal League, and Gomez probably fits that descripiton.
There's more to the picture than meets the eye.
by tricer on Jul 25, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone else feel this is a more important vote than a lot that came before?
Given the whole ’can’t-believe-player-x-doesn’t-make-our-top-20 cutoff that’s coming up next?
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
by Keynes on Jul 24, 2009 11:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Madrigal for me
I admit, I hadn’t looked at his OKC #‘s for myself till just now… and they’re absolutely sick. BABIP’s kinda low, but yowzers. So considering he’s the most advanced dude on the list right now (who isn’t rehabbing) + the #’s, Mad Dog it is.
"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels
by lonestarJon on Jul 24, 2009 11:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mad Dog for me
but Castillo is a very close second, and I would rather protect Castillo than Phillips or Whittleman.
by ramjam36 on Jul 24, 2009 11:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Im changing up here a bit
and going by the “which guy would you hate to hear has been traded rule”. Eddy Escobar. Think he is going to be Martin Perez lite. Top 15 by the middle of next yr and possibly top 10 by the end of it
You are obsessed with bodily wastes A turd being held under my nose, this team being a steaming pile, Jonny Donuts having a stinky diaper, the front office pissing themselves, the team crapping the bed…
I think you should seek counselling.
(AJM to Josey Donuts)
by Michael Cave on Jul 24, 2009 11:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Same
Looks like we’re the only ones though.
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
by TheJeezus on Jul 24, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It does
but hey if this guy goes onto to be really good we can refer to this as the Great Eddy Escobar Stand of 2009 like Josey Donuts the Douche ha
You are obsessed with bodily wastes A turd being held under my nose, this team being a steaming pile, Jonny Donuts having a stinky diaper, the front office pissing themselves, the team crapping the bed…
I think you should seek counselling.
(AJM to Josey Donuts)
by Michael Cave on Jul 24, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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