A.L. West Standings
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 27, 2009 9:58 AM CDT
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Pancho: You’re hit!
Blain: …I ain’t got time to bleed
by oc on Jul 27, 2009 10:01 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
I guess for now
we should only stick a spork in ’em….
Post.Fail.
by red shoe ranger on Jul 27, 2009 10:29 AM CDT reply actions
new sig
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
I don't know why
Everybody was giving him so much shit for that opinion.
It’s not just that they were 4.5 back. The roster just doesn’t look too promising right now for whatever reason.
I wouldn’t say that all chances are gone, but I wouldn’t be placing big money on it, either.
by brettgardner on Jul 27, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd rather have money on it
than all of my emotional capacity
by kevinkinsler on Jul 27, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
it’s fairly common for team’s to come back from that deficit.
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
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As I said, it’s NOT JUST THAT THEY WERE 4.5 BACK.
The offense blows, there’s a constant stream of DL trips, and the history of teams returning from X# games behind doesn’t tell you anything about the attendant circumstances.
by brettgardner on Jul 27, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
the following
Kinsler, Hamilton, Franky’s injuries, Angels’ offensive production (there are more, but I think these are the main ones that I think will [or at least should] bounce back.
Well
I think Hamilton is still hurt for one. Second, I think any regression of LA’s offense will be counteracted by the improvement from early unluckiness with their pitching.
More than anything, regression seems to imply equal conditions, and that doesn’t appear to be the case right now (injuries, etc.).
by brettgardner on Jul 27, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
Does anyone know options-wise whether Texas could send Hamilton to AAA for a week or so to try and get his groove back?
I’m sure Hamilton would disagree, but he is a major boner-killer this year
yes they could
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I like to give Adam a hard time about some things he says
But I fully agree with his reasoning with that statement. And one win against KC isn’t enough to turn me around. This is a flawed team who needs to get lucky (or LAA unlucky) to make the playoffs
Go Rice Owls!
and really
one of the reasons they are in the hunt is because LA got kind of unlucky with their starting pitching
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
and one of the reasons that we aren't ahead by 4.5 games
is because Tex has gotten kind of unlucky with their hitting
You really think
We’ve been unlucky?
I call it being exposed.
by brettgardner on Jul 27, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Kinsler
Is the only one I’m genuinely shocked by.
Salty’s beginning to flesh out as a league average-ish catcher, though I’m surprised by his reversion in the plate discipline area. It’s possible that he could still develop into more, but I don’t see any reason to expect it right now so as to call his performance unlucky.
Davis is shocking, but is it really unlucky? We’re not talking batted balls that guys are just making great plays on. Dude’s striking out at monstrous levels. Of course, I think he’s better than that, and eventually will be a very good player, but right now he’s a killer.
by brettgardner on Jul 27, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
And one win against KC isn’t enough to turn me around.
Seems to me like it was one loss against KC that’s got everyone so pessimistic.
Were going on 2 months now with a horrible offense.
I dont know why 1 loss after a 5 game winning streak has everyone so pessimistic.
I think
It’s because we were just getting lucky that LA wasn’t capitalizing on our horrible offense and now they are.
by brettgardner on Jul 27, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Why can't their BABIP be maintained for the rest of the year?
Our’s did last year.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Jul 27, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't know where to find that.
Also our pitchers have been lucky too so far, so you could also say that that can’t be maintained.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Jul 27, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
It was a really bad loss
The offense got violated by Luke Hochevar and Joakim Soria for 9 innings. I’m pretty sure that’s what got everyone pessimistic.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
what about a series sweep against Boston?
what about a 7-2 record vs the Angels?
A win against KC isn’t enough to inspire me either, but there are indicators that this team is in contention and could make the playoffs. I thought the “stick a fork in them” comment indicates that he doesn’t believe the team is in contention and has no chance to make the playoffs. I don’t see that.
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
Especially when there are two avenues available
to make the post-season.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 27, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Exactly
The Rangers don’t have any control over dogfights for the Central or East, and if three teams in each of those divisions continue with the fratricide, who knows what record could take the Wild Card? It’s still possible for two AL West teams to pull away a little bit.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Jul 27, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
The Rangers are on a current pace to win 91 games
which should be within two or three games of what it takes to win the Wild Card.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 27, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
A 5-1 record vs. BOS and 7-2 vs. LAA...
…doesn’t matter if the Rangers are .500-ish against everyone else and the Angels are .667 against everyone else. When it’s time to schedule the playoffs, they don’t look at a team’s record vs. specific other teams, they look at overall record. We could go 93-69 but if the Angels are 94-68 and the second-place team in the AL East is 95-67, the Rangers are screwed even if they’re 17-2 against LAA.
so, I can mark you down for "stick a fork in them, we have no chance"?
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
I think where we are after this series with DET while the Angels play CLE will be telling
Mark me down for “hold the fork over them ready to stick in if we lose ground this week.”
you realize that 40% of the season is left to be played, right?
Not trying to be condescending, but it seems quite early for these type proclamations.
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
After all, there is still 40% of the season to be played
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
I'm pretty content
With my 50 at 10:1 right now
by BuckyB on Jul 27, 2009 10:57 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
10 to 1
for the playoffs?
You are obsessed with bodily wastes A turd being held under my nose, this team being a steaming pile, Jonny Donuts having a stinky diaper, the front office pissing themselves, the team crapping the bed…
I think you should seek counselling.
(AJM to Josey Donuts)
by Michael Cave on Jul 27, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Well if the idea is that the Rangers prospects don't look particularly promising
The fork might as well have gone in during spring training.
the preceding post was a great success.
wild card should be up
at least while the wild card looks just as promising as the division
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
12 games over looks pretty good
Regardless of what’s above
by BuckyB on Jul 27, 2009 10:56 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
So, chances of a trade of any kind?
I give it 85%
and maybe a 40% chance that it is a high impact pitcher (I would say high impact player but there doesn’t seem to be any high impact bats available).
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
That high?
I just don’t see it that high…but JD does always play things close to the vest. Or, are you merely wishcasting?
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
I don't think I am
Part of it was something that Dan said (and I had also been thinking but he said it better) in that we have a ton of mid level prospects and it just makes too much sense for us to start getting rid of some of them (maybe paired with a vet who’s going to leave anywya) now to shore up the bullpen or get a bench bat. These types of trades are fairly common and we almost have to make some of these trades to relieve the 40 situation.
But the other part of it is that Halladay is pretty much tops for me. Maybe 1 out of 3 or 4 guys that you can count on as a TORG. When he is actually available and you as the Rangers are in a very unique position of having the best minor league system, I think there is an internal pressure to get it done. The same thing can be said (but to a lesser degree) for Lee.
Obviously, if GM’s throw around bullshit requests and play hardball or really have no intention of trading to us (maybe Halladay never ok’d a trade to the Rangers and they are just trying to use us to drive up price), then it’s not going to happen. But I think the Rangers might recognize that while they may be in a better position to make a playoff run next year, they might never have the opportunity to acquire Lee or Halladay (or any other high impact player) that might be available.
What are your trade odds?
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
95%
The Rangers didn’t make a deal last year at the trade deadline and they didn’t make one in the winter either.
Both times Ryan expressed profound frustration and there’s no way JD doesn’t bring him back something good with this team in contention.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 27, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
weird
i don’t remember seeing any quotes from Nolan expressing “profound frustration” at a trade not taking place.
Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball
I do
But it was at the process of the winter meetings, not JD himself or anything. He was definitely annoyed with the winter meetings.
the preceding post was a great success.
And going back to last season's deadline
NR was the one who wanted to hold onto his players in a vain attempt to make a run. They should have been sellers.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
After hearing JD on with Norm this morning,
I think about 50%.
And DJ Fresh’s opinion is very valid w/regard to the glut of C level prospects.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
regardless of where we are in the standings
i’m extremely happy with the record to this point in the season
by dustinvandeman on Jul 27, 2009 11:16 AM CDT reply actions
Roundtable is up
http://insidecorner.dmagazine.com/2009/07/27/armchair-gm-roundtable-trade-deadline-edition/
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
That was kind of awful
I’m a white boy who doesn’t think a black man is good enough to manage my baseball team. - LSJ
"I really think that" - LSJ, on being asked by AirJordan
Agreed.
Seemed very half-ass put together and the podcasts are much better.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 27, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
It's so difficult
to read transcripts of IM chat sessions after the fact. That was a terrible read.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 27, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
As much as I hate the fucker
Mike Schoschciah deserves coach of the year, and is going to go down as one of the greatest ever if he continues to over-perform with the team he is given every single year
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