Kurkjian on Pitch Counts
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 29, 2009 11:00 AM CDT
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PrintTim Kurkjian has an article up on pitch counts and 100 pitches, and goes through at length about the various issues that have led to starting pitchers supposedly not being expected to throw past 100 pitches.
But there's a blind item he shared which I thought was particularly interesting:
The names and teams aren't important, but here's what happened in July 2008 on a beautiful evening at Nationals Park. The visiting pitching coach went to the mound to talk to his pitcher, who was laboring slightly."I can't pitch any more," the pitcher told the pitching coach.
"Are you hurt?" the pitching coach asked.
"No, I just can't pitch any more," the pitcher said. Then he walked off the mound.
He had thrown 90 pitches.
It appears to be this game, and would help explain why the team in question was so willing to give up that particular pitcher at the trade deadline last year.
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i don't think that was the point of the post
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
Doesn't matter
If the words “pitch count” show up in any post I make, people are going to bitch.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 29, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Micah Owings
.761 OPS. That is Jason Jennings-like
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Maybe he just knew he didn't have it that night...
He had walked 5 guys in 5+ innings, including 2 in the 6th. Not saying he didn’t spit the bit, but maybe it wasn’t about pitch counts.
Interesting side note: he DID post a 52 game score ;-)
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Did you go through some July Nationals home games to find that?
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by hightowersmith on Jul 29, 2009 11:15 AM CDT reply actions
Yeah
It was pretty easy. They only had 9 home games in July.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 29, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah
what is the point of a blind item if you are going to give so much away. Not like “visiting team,” “Nationals Park,” or July added anything to the story
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
That is the point
Not name the player, but give enough info so that someone can figure it out.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 29, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
well then that is just kind of dick, isn't it?
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
I've never met anyone named Micah...
Who isn’t a poon
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by RangerFloppy on Jul 29, 2009 11:20 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
ummmmmm
might want to rethink that comment.
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
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I think I'm fine...
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by RangerFloppy on Jul 29, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
you''re screwed lol
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
I dated a Micah.
Hardcore Mormon. She’s married now (no kids, not for lack of trying). She was kind of bitchy, actually.
Let me slip this in: Jack Wilson in now in the AL West...
per Fox sports:
The Pirates just announced that they have acquired first baseman Jeff Clement, shortstop Ronny Cedeno and right-handed pitchers Aaron Pribanic, Brett Lorin and Nathan Adcock from the Mariners for shortstop Jack Wilson and right-handed pitcher Ian Snell.
Ephesians 3:20-21...and I can only imagine
Do the Mariner's plan to re-sign Wilson?
He’s quite the upgrade from Betancourt.
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by DerekSTheRed on Jul 29, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know much about those guys
but that seems like an awful lot to give up for a defensive SS and a talented, but up-and-down headcase who’s pitched in the NL his whole career.
Maybe those prospects aren’t really that great.
I like this deal for us
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
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-The Outlaw
Since when was Jeff Clement a 1B primarily? I still thought he was a catcher…
Anyway I love this deal from a Ranger point of view as it pretty much forces Kenji Johjima as the catcher with Seattle for the forseeable future (of course I assumed Clement was still thought of as a catcher anyway.) Going back to the SS situation at the beginning of the year while Wilson is definitely better than Betancourt defensively the fact that he can’t really hit any better and is more expensive pretty much makes this a very minimal upgrade value wise.
Snell could be a good addition, but he’s such a headcase that who knows if he’ll really be worth his contract.
Note:
See Andrus, Elvis. A weak hitting slick fielding SS can help a team. Especially, in the “confines” of Seattle.
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Still I can't imagine
paying a SS with such minimal offensive upside over 8 million next year. Sure he is phenomenal defensively but in today’s economy I just don’t see how that is a great plan.
Of course I’ve seen that Seattle does have quite a few contracts coming off the books next year so with that in mind it does make more sense.
Great defensive SS's, who are competent with the bat, are hard to come by.
Great offensive SS’s are progressively becoming non-existent.
Well they were pretty much non-existant throught baseball history
with a few exceptions until the mid-90’s and roids came along.
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by Dirk Diggler on Jul 30, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions
does anyone know anything about the 3 pitchers seattle gave up?
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
darn
and elvis is no longer the best defensive ss in the AL or even the AL west :(
Your mancrush on Wilson is a little disturbing.
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