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by Adam J. Morris on Jul 3, 2009 10:07 PM CDT
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Happy birthday, Tommy Hunter, someone who I find myself pulling for to an irrational degree.
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Baltimore hold the lead.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
by iorange555 on Jul 3, 2009 10:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Does this mean Hunter sticks around for awhile?
I am sure this was not in the original plans. I posted this over there, but, you know, game over woohoo Rangers win!
by Mark from OC on Jul 3, 2009 10:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Who could displace him?
I didn’t read up on harrison’s exact prospects but it didn’t appear he or bmac would be back soon.
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by DSheppard on Jul 3, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know bmac is gone for a good term, like always, and maybe even forever as a starter this time
But I thought Harrison was scheduled to be back after just the 15 days. If Hunter is pitching as he is now after 1 more start, no way would I replace him in the rotation with Harrison.
by Mark from OC on Jul 3, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
your kind of guy.
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by t ball on Jul 3, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just curious Adam ...
why do you pull for Tommy so much?
I ask because I have the same feeling towards him and I’m not sure why.
by texasraider on Jul 3, 2009 10:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I pull for any pitcher
on this team, it’s completely rational given the last decade.
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by t ball on Jul 3, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah,
this team is still at the point it could use those solid mid/back of the rotation guys who can give innings and be solid.
We need to start weeding out the guys like BMac that you just can’t count on. Its the guys like BMac that force this team to mess around with the Bensons of the world.
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by DJCahill on Jul 4, 2009 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like him because he turns really red.
by Black Francis on Jul 3, 2009 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
Maybe it is because that is one of the things I have in common with him.
It amuses me that Seth also has a tendency to turn bright red in the slightest bit of heat.
When I played tennis in high school, I’d come in after a match in the sun, and people were afraid I was about to die.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 3, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's the Hoss-factor
Big, jolly looking dudes who put up good results are easy to root for.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 3, 2009 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I pull for him...
initially because he went to Bama. But since then, cause i like his grit. RTR!!!
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-Rogers Hornsby
by Haeger Champ on Jul 3, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was probably the best part of it
Get on base or die, Salty.
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by lonestarJon on Jul 3, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Might Tommy Hunter
force Harrison to AAA or Holland to the bullpen?
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by RangerMad on Jul 3, 2009 10:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Holland should not go back to the bullpen.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 3, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i second this
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Jul 3, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully
Because if he keeps pitching like this, that would be, like, totally awesome.
by Mark from OC on Jul 3, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you suppose the 4-H club will be run out there next year?
Hunter, Holland, Hurley, and Happy (Feliz)?
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by Ed Coffin on Jul 3, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no Harrison?
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Jul 4, 2009 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
5H Club
I didn’t mean to forget him.
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by Ed Coffin on Jul 4, 2009 12:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just hope Holland sees a guy having success because he keeps hitters off balance by throwing a variety of pitches
by texasraider on Jul 3, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you really think that would help?
Holland just seeing a guy, another rookie, will improve him in which way?
by Mark from OC on Jul 3, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just think Holland needs to learn to throw less fastballs
hitters just sit on it
by texasraider on Jul 3, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shouldn't that be something a pitcher learns in the minors?
And if so, does this mean Holland is here too early and needs the rest of the year to work it out at AA?
by Mark from OC on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well I'm in the He needs to be in the bullpen camp
and learn it there … although it’s really easy to rely completely on one pitch and be successful there
by texasraider on Jul 3, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hadn't thought of it that way
But you are right. If Holland goes to the bullpen, he can rely completely on the heat and be successful, thus never developing into a major league starter. But if he goes back to AAA and starts, he can work on developing all his pitches. No need for that work to be done in the majors.
by Mark from OC on Jul 3, 2009 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you going to email JD or should I?
by Mark from OC on Jul 3, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
go ahead ...
him and I are not on speaking terms after the Sammy Sosa debacle.
by texasraider on Jul 3, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's all luck
haven’t you heard?
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by randyd on Jul 3, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
from the EG/Neyer blog war this afternoon
I know it was about Millwood, but just wanted to throw it out there. for fun
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by randyd on Jul 3, 2009 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holland needs some secondary pitches to throw, first
Right now he really doesn’t have any.
Hunter at least has that curve.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 3, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holland's curve is good
and changemup isn’t bad
by texasraider on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He doesn't seem to have the ability or confidence to throw them consistently though.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think it's a lack of confidence in them
which is why I said I hope he sees Hunter having success with him using a variety
by texasraider on Jul 3, 2009 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh
I don’t really think watching another guy have success is going to suddenly give you confidence in pitches you haven’t been able to use successfully so far. The only way to do that is to get to a point where you can use them successfully. Hopefully Holland is on his way to that as long as he keeps starting, whether it’s here or OKC.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 3, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're right
but he’s not going to be successful without those secondary pitches and the confidence to use them
I never saw him pitch in the minors but I find myself wondering why Holland was rated so high if he doesn’t ever use his secondary pitches.
So did he use them in the monors more or was he throwing 80-95% heat in the minors as well?
by texasraider on Jul 3, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He used the secondary stuff
Made a lot of hitters look silly with the changeup after they saw his mid-upper 90s fastball.
He mixed in a slider too.
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by rentz on Jul 4, 2009 6:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
More likely the latter
That wouldn’t be a bad thing.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 3, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tonight
I was kinda wishin’ we woulda had Holland in the pen for the 6th/7th stretch.
by shroomer on Jul 3, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
isn't Holland scheduled to start tomorrow?
why would he be in the pen?
by texasraider on Jul 3, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
I was just thinking during the game that it wouldn’t be so bad if Holland went back to the pen if Harrison is healthy and successful and Hunter stays steady.
by shroomer on Jul 3, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, gotcha ... I read it wrong
but I agree with you
by texasraider on Jul 3, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hunter
A little more wordy in his interview with Barnett
I think it’s pretty obvious he was dodging the Knox interview
by oc on Jul 3, 2009 10:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he was being weery of having cake, pie, etc shoved in his face
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by rangers85 on Jul 3, 2009 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Such a stupid tradition
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 3, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's the appeal with all of sports.
Grown men celebrating like a bunch of kids.
It makes us all feel young
by oc on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm sorry, but I don't find grown men blinding each other appealing at all.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 3, 2009 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
stop going to the beach
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
by iorange555 on Jul 3, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Happy birthday MR. Hunter
Anyone 6’3 270 and is a black belt-I call MR.
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by randyd on Jul 3, 2009 10:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
BTW, attendance was 39,123
not diappointing, as someone mentioned in the last GDT.
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by randyd on Jul 3, 2009 10:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I am such a nerd.
I found this app for my phone where I can score the game. I scored this game at home and found that when I’m done, I can email myself a PDF of my scoresheet. I am really excited about this!
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by lisa w on Jul 3, 2009 10:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
nerd level rising!
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by TXRangersFan on Jul 3, 2009 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
iPhone? If so what app?
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by rangers85 on Jul 3, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, iPhone
It’s Pointstreak K-ForCE. 9.99 in the app store, but totally worth it. Usually if I go to the game alone I score with pencil and paper, and I’ll probably still do that, but this app is so easy to use I’m probably going to end up using it a lot even if I don’t go alone.
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"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08
by lisa w on Jul 3, 2009 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm strongly considering that...
I hate keeping up with a pen at games, but something like that may get me back into scoring at games again.
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by rangers85 on Jul 3, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
damn ... pricy for something I'm not sure I would use very much
but interested nonetheless
by texasraider on Jul 3, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I was just looking though...
looks like there’s some cheaper ones, but not really seeing a email to print option on them.
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by rangers85 on Jul 3, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My kind of girl! My kid's coach's wife scores their HS games the same way,
downloads to the computer and voila’-stats done!
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"Introducing your 2009 Texas Rangers-Built for Insanity!"
by randyd on Jul 3, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The xbox 360's inability to read disks without any major scratches is maddening.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Jul 3, 2009 10:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
american billionaires suck
support japanese billionaires………… ps3 is the way to enlightenment.
by j d on Jul 3, 2009 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"can't read disk"
“open tray”.
ARRRRRGHHH! FUCK YOU, MICROSOFT!
by Butters on Jul 4, 2009 2:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
6-1 O's
Top of the 5th.
Ervin Santana still ain’t right.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 3, 2009 10:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
as TAG said:
“Good”
"You'll meet them again on their long journey to the middle." -Lester Bangs
by BAC on Jul 3, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we trade our A. Jones
for Balt’s A. Jones, please?
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by t ball on Jul 3, 2009 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Worth a shot.
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by t ball on Jul 3, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What are the pitching matchups for the rest of the weekend?
If they are somewhere else, let me know
by AL Fan on Jul 3, 2009 10:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
im down with this
Price could have an implosion in our park, it seems to set up well for us.
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by blalock84 on Jul 3, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Price could implode, but he could also strike out 17 and lay some pipe on our collective chest.
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by thedirkatron on Jul 4, 2009 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Niemann has been skipped
It’ll be Garza
-- Micah
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I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by baseballismyboyfriend on Jul 3, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck me...
Thats just fuckin awesome…thx tampa
by Horns130 on Jul 4, 2009 1:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its Garza vs Feldman
They said yesterday they were skipping Niemann’s start and Garza would get the go
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
by thad728 on Jul 4, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is now a good time
to send CD down and let Hank play fulltime?
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by RangerMad on Jul 3, 2009 10:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes
Until CD improves or Smoak is ready
by Mark from OC on Jul 3, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you've got to platoon Hank, but yeah.
Get on base or die, Salty.
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by lonestarJon on Jul 3, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Royce Huffman
dude’s mashing!!!
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- Ayjayem
by Chase Irwin on Jul 3, 2009 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wouldn't cost anything to give him a brief look
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by randyd on Jul 3, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
except maybe Bannister
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by RangerMad on Jul 3, 2009 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
or Guardado, or Mendoza, or Eyre
plenty of dead weight
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"Introducing your 2009 Texas Rangers-Built for Insanity!"
by randyd on Jul 3, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would agree with Guardado being the next one off the 40
by Mark from OC on Jul 3, 2009 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
Because then you’ve got to add someone else to the 40 man to be the situational lefty.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 3, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Pirate -- it's time.
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- Ayjayem
by Chase Irwin on Jul 3, 2009 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does Wash use EG as a LOOGY?
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by RangerMad on Jul 3, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure that is how Eddie has been used this year.
by Mark from OC on Jul 3, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
You aren’t going to go to a bullpen with C.J. being the only lefty. I don’t think that’s going to happen.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 3, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why not?
For many years, when they only had 5 in the bullpen, multiple teams had only one lefty every year. Ryan is all about getting back to how things were – not judging every pitcher by the 100 pitch count, so why not change this too? It’s not like Eddie has been helpful, overall, to the Rangers in 2009.
by Mark from OC on Jul 3, 2009 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could be wrong
I don’t think they are going to go to just one lefty, though
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 3, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think they will either
But, right now, and almost all of 2009 and the second half of 2008, an additional righty in the bullpen is better than Eddie.
by Mark from OC on Jul 3, 2009 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Play Hank FT
except against some tough lefties. Find a RH hitting, good D firstbaseman to back him up.
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by RangerMad on Jul 3, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what I'd do?
Stick Salty at 1B against lefties.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 3, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
interesting
but it probably goes against RW’s gut
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by RangerMad on Jul 3, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a bad idea, except for the fact that Salty has historically sucked against LHP's
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 3, 2009 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he should stop switch hitting.
Is there much precedent for switch hitters abandoning one side?
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- Ayjayem
by Chase Irwin on Jul 3, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but...
…he’ll be better than Blalock, and it will get Teagarden more p.t.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 3, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True.
I guess I could get on board with that, as long as his catcher defense doesn’t suffer. His improved defense is about all he’s got this year.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 3, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well that's kind of significant LSJ, considering that he plays catcher.
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by Chase Irwin on Jul 3, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bleah.
He’s turned into Gerald Laird. Big whoop.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 3, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't realize...
LSJ’s Salty hardon had gone from midnight to six so quick.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
by benmor78 on Jul 3, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still want to see him succeed just as bad as I used to
But 52 point drops in OBP is something not even viagra could make up for.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 3, 2009 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wasn't he pretty brutal there a couple of years ago?
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by randyd on Jul 3, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
More importantly
why the hell open that can of worms again? Adam is only half-serious, I’m sure.
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by t ball on Jul 3, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I'm serious
I think if you send Davis down, using Salty there in a platoon with 1B is your best option.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 3, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ajm,
That thing you see slipping out the window is your own credibility.
Admit you were wrong on Hank and move forward.
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" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 3, 2009 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wrong about what?
That he can’t hit lefties?
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 3, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that might
mess with Salty’s head after all the work he put in on defense. I’d leave well enough alone there.
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by t ball on Jul 3, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Steve German
Could be Davis’s replacement on the roster, Wouldn’t he be a better option at 1B against LHP than Salty?
by brianphayes on Jul 4, 2009 5:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean Esteban?
Does he play first?
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I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by baseballismyboyfriend on Jul 4, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
everything but C.
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by Chase Irwin on Jul 4, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
German
has played 1 game at 1B in the MLs. That was back in 2006 with the Royals. He has mosly played 3B this year with OKC. He is not a firstbaseman.
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by RangerMad on Jul 4, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the internet...
cans of worms never fully seal.
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by rangers85 on Jul 3, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why?
Salty’s line against righthanders this year is .245 .303 .367 .670. And putting Salty at 1st base means that Teagarden catches and that’s just adding another weak bat to the lineup. Last, but not least, Salty doesn’t look too hot at 1st base.
by twinkilling on Jul 4, 2009 3:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where is Ben Broussard?
Or we can trade Lemon to the M’s for Shelton
by Telegraph on Jul 3, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd kill myself and 2 kittens.
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by thedirkatron on Jul 4, 2009 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would still use Hank for a week or two
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"Introducing your 2009 Texas Rangers-Built for Insanity!"
by randyd on Jul 3, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about Omar Vizquel?
Just an idea, not a decision
by Mark from OC on Jul 3, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean LHP's?
Probably Royce Huffman.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 3, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would probably roll the dice with Blalock for a couple of weeks
maybe he re-discovers what he had going at the end of last season
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by randyd on Jul 3, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
top 40 real men of genius commercials
some of these are epic.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 3, 2009 10:28 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
niiiiiiice
"You'll meet them again on their long journey to the middle." -Lester Bangs
by BAC on Jul 3, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
its going to be about 20 min wasted on this
the airline pilot one is great
mr. way too proud of texas guy is pretty good too
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 3, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
texas guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4PHV6NdCWE&feature=player_embedded
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 3, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love those commercials.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 3, 2009 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely missign the Hopeless Notre Dame Football Fan one mentioned in the comments section...
that’s possibly my favorite.
Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.
by rangers85 on Jul 3, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i like the mr discount airline pilot guy one
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 3, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0Y7yjxJVlc
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 3, 2009 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
obviously,
my favorite one was, “mr. handlebar mustache wearer.”
by Butters on Jul 4, 2009 3:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT: I-Cubs are slaughtering the RedHawks, 7-1
But my love has been on base four times tonight. Hot.
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by baseballismyboyfriend on Jul 3, 2009 10:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
who is it?
and have they said how serious Wade’s son’s injury was?
by texasraider on Jul 3, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No word on Boggs' injury
My love = Casey Benjamin
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by baseballismyboyfriend on Jul 3, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
fickle lass!
Definiton of insanity-doing the same thing and expecting different results
"Introducing your 2009 Texas Rangers-Built for Insanity!"
by randyd on Jul 3, 2009 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really
I liked Casey last year…and I always forget until I see him again…
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by baseballismyboyfriend on Jul 3, 2009 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Casey Benjamin
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jul 3, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He inspires very dirty thoughts
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by baseballismyboyfriend on Jul 3, 2009 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
do tell....
just kidding!
Definiton of insanity-doing the same thing and expecting different results
"Introducing your 2009 Texas Rangers-Built for Insanity!"
by randyd on Jul 3, 2009 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha ha
I didn’t even share them with my girls last night. No way I’m sharing them here in a male-cominated forum :)
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by baseballismyboyfriend on Jul 3, 2009 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
awwwwwwwwwww
Definiton of insanity-doing the same thing and expecting different results
"Introducing your 2009 Texas Rangers-Built for Insanity!"
by randyd on Jul 3, 2009 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
at 2B?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jul 3, 2009 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wherever he plays
Wed night = bullpen catcher
Thurs night = DH
Tonight = 2B and then moved to LF during the Boggs switcheroo
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by baseballismyboyfriend on Jul 3, 2009 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
CD cloned himself and is playing for AAA and MLB?
Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.
by rangers85 on Jul 3, 2009 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
seems like michael young is laughing at ric's hair
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
by iorange555 on Jul 3, 2009 10:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hunter
10 swinging strikes, 11% – oohhhhhh..
That changeup he threw to strikeout Pena in the 4th was sexy – and I love sexy changeups
by Telegraph on Jul 3, 2009 10:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he was using alot of good pitches
that cutter looked really good at times, he threw a couple slow curves (74ish) for strikes and that 80ish MPH slider was pretty nasty and got several swinging strikes… But that Changeup was great, i really like Hunter’s stuff tonight, it looked very playable at this level and he seems to already have a good idea of how to pitch
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on Jul 3, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ian's BA down to .259
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jul 3, 2009 10:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He really does not deserve to be the All Star starter
But because of Red Sox hatred around the country (deservedly so), Kinsler will probably be starting.
by Mark from OC on Jul 3, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He does deserve to be the starter, based on overall #'s
Hill is the only guy really close to him, and he wasn’t anywhere close in the voting.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 3, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I meant
Hill deserves very much more to be the starter, but that isn’t happening. And except for slugging, Pedroia is having a better year.
by Mark from OC on Jul 3, 2009 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pedroia is not having a better year.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 3, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes he is
Runs, hits, OBP, average, just not extra base hits.
by Mark from OC on Jul 3, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Runs and hits aren't terribly relevant
Pedroia has a big edge in OBP, but Kinsler has a huge edge in slugging, and has been better defensively and stealing bases.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 3, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So?
Try these:
wOBA:
Kinsler .373
Pedroia: .343
UZR/150
Kinsler: 9.4
Padroia: 6.4
WAR:
Kinsler: 3.1
Pedroia: 1.9
Kinsler has been much more valuable both offensively and defensively, and is having a much better overall season.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 3, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea
if he would stop popping up every time out there and then have such a terrible BABIP he would be having a hell of a year… as is, he’s still the best 2B in the AL
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on Jul 3, 2009 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless you count Ben Zobrist, who's a second baseman right now but was a RF for a good part of the season, yah, Ike's been the best.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jul 4, 2009 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pedroia is not having a better year
And Kinsler is probably better than Hill this season.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 3, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Highest OPS among AL second basemen?
One of the top defensive second basemen in either league? Sure he deserves to go.
by Redcaps on Jul 3, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
People don't vote on ops
We do, we agree that is an important stat. But a .259 average player staring in the all star game? Very, very rare.
by Mark from OC on Jul 3, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ian's eyesight is fine, I think
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by baseballismyboyfriend on Jul 3, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
kinsler=HOF
so yes he deserves to start ASG.
by j d on Jul 3, 2009 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
6-1 O's top of the 6th
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 3, 2009 10:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ho hum
strap yourselves on to Hammer’s back and try to ignore Josey Wales saying “I told ya so”.
Nice, nice win tonight.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jul 3, 2009 10:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It would be nice
if Hank got hot for a while right before the trade deadline.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jul 3, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldnt mind trading Hank...
But how bad would the rangers look if they made that trade while in a pennant race…
that is not exactly a move that would engender support from the average fan
by Horns130 on Jul 3, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the Rangers put Blalock on Padilla Waivers...
…does anyone claim him?
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 3, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd imagine some team that needs a left-handed DH would claim him.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 3, 2009 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who needs a left handed DH, though?
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 3, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they guys on pace to hit 40 HR's and drive in around 100
i think his aproach sux and he has giant holes in his swing, but he has some value whether you all want to ignore it or not. do i think he’s a god, no. do i think he has value? yup
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Jul 3, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mets, maybe?
Definiton of insanity-doing the same thing and expecting different results
"Introducing your 2009 Texas Rangers-Built for Insanity!"
by randyd on Jul 3, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea, no way he makes it through them
they probably feel like with Blalock they have a good shot at winning the WC
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on Jul 3, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good question
he’s cheaper than Padilla, so I think there is less a chance he slips through. Some team might value that amount of money less than the prospects it would take to trade for a better hitter these days.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jul 3, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way he makes it through waivers.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jul 4, 2009 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
guess that movie
“you know the rules…whoever dies first loses!”
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 3, 2009 10:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Celebrity Deathmatch: The Movie?
Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.
by rangers85 on Jul 3, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lets go to prison
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 3, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scream
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Jul 3, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
eh?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jul 3, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The movie. Scream. With Matthew Lillard and Drew Barrymore and the Arquettes.
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Jul 3, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So
I’m watching Fantastic Four, Silver Surfer, because TiVo recorded it and I figured I’d watch something mindless while screwing around on the computer…
And it is like 30 minutes in, and nothing has happened.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 3, 2009 11:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
CGI doesn't grow on trees
you have to nurture it for a while
by shroomer on Jul 3, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
6-3 Baltimore, BTW
Morales hit a tater
by shroomer on Jul 3, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shit.
Hang on, O’s.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 3, 2009 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here is a scatter plot of Rangers seasons...
…by the latest point (by games played) at which the Rangers were in first place. (2009 in red.)
Here are the seasons in chronological order:
Just amazing how infrequently the Rangers have been in 1st even as late as only half way through the season.
Fire Washington.
by Texas_Dawg on Jul 3, 2009 11:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
a question, if you please..
Why is everyone so quick to anoint Smoak as the savior at 1st? He still is not hitting lefties worth a crap, yet Moreland is hitting well against both. I know Smoak was a higher draft pick, but shouldn’t production be more important?
(and yes, I know about SSS)
Definiton of insanity-doing the same thing and expecting different results
"Introducing your 2009 Texas Rangers-Built for Insanity!"
by randyd on Jul 3, 2009 11:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
People are just desperate to see Davis replaced
They know Blalock kinda sucks too, and Smoak has been getting repeat coats of hype since he was first drafted.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 3, 2009 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because Davis needs to be replaced, sooner not later
Not because he is a horrible player who will never make it, but because he needs to fix his strike out problem and that is not going to happen in the majors. And because the Rangers need to play their best possible 9 each day and Davis is not one of them.
by Mark from OC on Jul 3, 2009 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
But Smoak isn’t the answer yet either. He has yet to hit from the right side in the minors, and he still hasn’t whiffed AAA pitching, either.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 3, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smoak could easily be a player who skips AAA
As for hitting from the right side, I think he would be a better option than Davis right now. And the pressure would not be there to play 100% of the time, as Blalock could fill in some.
by Mark from OC on Jul 3, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
.208/.269/.333 against lefties in AA
That’s a MLE of .163/.212/.224.
Even if you don’t put much stock in MLE, I don’t see how you can think a guy with a .602 OPS against AA lefties is ready to hit against them in the majors. Blalock already needs a platoon partner against lefties himself, he’s not going to platoon with Smoak against them.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 3, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Smoak is not ready
But, again, I think he would be a better option than Davis right now. Just about anyone would.
by Mark from OC on Jul 3, 2009 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, if just about anyone is better than Davis right now...
Why the hurry to call up Smoak before he’s ready when we can just stick Blalock at first for the time being?
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 3, 2009 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In another extension somewhere on here I agreed
Blalock should be playing 1B now instead of Davis
by Mark from OC on Jul 3, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He would be... but it wouldn't be best for Smoak's long-term development.
I dislike Davis more than anyone, but jeopardizing Smoak’s long-term development isn’t the answer.
Just platoon Blalock/Jones at 1B, imho.
by Texas_Dawg on Jul 3, 2009 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jones doesn't need to be playing 1B
And platooning them at 1B still leaves a hole at DH.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 3, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jones isn;t a first baseman, and he's hit like shit since the first three games of his season.
He needs to be cut.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 3, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hamilton needs to DH
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jul 3, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He would be just fine at 1B
Certainly nothing so much worse than Davis that it overcomes the difference at the plate.
The one not playing 1B would be DH that night.
by Texas_Dawg on Jul 3, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So play Blalock at 1B every day
And DH Jones.
That’s not a platoon, though. That’s two everyday players.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 3, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough.
Works for me.
I just don’t think Jones would be as bad as people think with time to work on 1B.
by Texas_Dawg on Jul 3, 2009 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jones can't play 1B
He also can’t hit.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jul 3, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is another spot on the 40 that is an easy opening
Say goodbye to Jones
by Mark from OC on Jul 3, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rudy's got his back
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jul 3, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is his say being heard as much this week?
And the last month
by Mark from OC on Jul 3, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
I guess he sucks now too.
Only considered one of the best hitting coaches in MLB by a large number of his peers and people who follow the game, but, hey, whatever… it’s the intertubes. He sucks.
by Texas_Dawg on Jul 3, 2009 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who said that?
Rudy has been great for years, but right now his stock is nowhere near as high as it was in the past.
by Mark from OC on Jul 3, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems to be what you are implying.
And sure it is, fwiw. Were the Rangers to fire him today, he would be another MLB team’s hitting coach within a season.
by Texas_Dawg on Jul 3, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be in the top 10 worse Rangers decisions ever
No way was I implying nor have I implied elsewhere that the Rangers fire Rudy. Keep him through the season no matter how bad the offense gets. I believe his contract is up after the season and at that point decide whether he is the best choice to move forward with the current roster. And at what price.
by Mark from OC on Jul 4, 2009 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
overrated
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jul 3, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course.
These are the tubes. You either suck or you’re awesome.
by Texas_Dawg on Jul 3, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So
We send down Davis and release Jones and Guardado.
Hamilton is activated.
Borbon needs to be sent down since he’s not playing, though, and he needs to play every day right now.
Who fills those three roster spots?
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 3, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
kkjkbvv nbjk
Put Borbon in CF, DH Hamilton, DFA Jones, call up Huffman to back up 1B
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jul 3, 2009 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hamilton for Borbon
Huffman for Davis (temporary replacement). Takes Jones’ spot on the 40
Ramirez or Boggs for Jones. Both already on the 40
Morosco for Guardado. Also on the 40 and hot right now, use that streak in the majors.
by Mark from OC on Jul 3, 2009 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Murray for Eddie
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jul 3, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A.J. would be a fine choice
That would give the Rangers their 2nd lefty in the bullpen.
by Mark from OC on Jul 3, 2009 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ramirez isn't hitting
And I don’t think you want to have him come up and just sit on the bench, which is what he’d do.
Boggs would be fine, but he may be hurt.
As for Moscoso, the bullpen already isn’t getting much use. Another RHP middle/long man is going to just sit out there and rot.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 3, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay on 2
Boggs or Ramirez does not matter to me, but if Ramirez isn’t hititng bring up Boggs and have him sit on the bench like he did last time.
I disagree that another pitcher is just going to sit out there and rot. If that was so, the Rangers should just carry one less pitcher and add a position player.
by Mark from OC on Jul 3, 2009 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As it is...
…the bullpen hasn’t been getting a ton of use.
I’d add a second lefty for situational purposes, but if you aren’t going to do that, then call up Arias and let him be a pinch runner, I think.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 3, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Make that 2nd lefty A.J. Murray
I forgot about him, and how incredibly well he has been doing recently, until someone mentioned it above.
by Mark from OC on Jul 3, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do you know he can't play 1B?
He has an OBP .100 points higher than Davis, fwiw. He has an over 1 game higher WAR than Davis.
Maybe he can’t hit… but that says a whole lot about how bad Kris Davis is.
by Texas_Dawg on Jul 3, 2009 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We've been over this...
The guy has played first base like three times in his life. He is not a first baseman, and he is not playing well enough to warrant trying force him to learn on the fly.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 3, 2009 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you have no idea if he could play the position well or not...
…is the correct answer.
by Texas_Dawg on Jul 3, 2009 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus, you're one thickheaded mofo.
HE CANNOT PLAY FIRST BASE. For some reason, you refuse to believe that simple, fundamental fact.
This is not a playstation, you cannot stick outfielders at first and expect them to play acceptable major league defense. There is a learning curve when you move to any foreign position, and moving from the outfield to the infield is about as foreign as it gets.
And considering he’s hit like shit since the first three games of his season ended, there’s no reason to try and go down such a learning curve with him.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 3, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have no idea if he can or can't.
I know you hate that because your Longview boy needs all the defending and excuse making he can get, but no one knows how well Jones could play the position given a real chance to work on it.
One thing we do know for a fact though is that Kris Davis is one of the very few players in MLB currently playing below the replacement level, making him one of the worst players in baseball currently.
But, hey, he’s a good old country boy that hit some dingers last year so he’s awesome and stuff.
by Texas_Dawg on Jul 3, 2009 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know...
it’s like having roaches in the kitchen. You let Josey come in and make himself at home, and next thing you know he’s laid eggs all over the place and their hatching like gangbusters.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
by benmor78 on Jul 3, 2009 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Heh
I laughed at this metaphor
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by baseballismyboyfriend on Jul 3, 2009 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really man?
You can’t find a leg to stand on in the Jones argument, so now you’re going to try and make this about where Davis is from?
You and your sensitivities about where people are from and what they look like need to fuck off. Seriously.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 3, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
LSJ has been one of the biggest “get Davis out” people for a while now.
That’s funny.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 3, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Hank or AJ
could play a avg D at 1B, CD would have been sent down long ago.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jul 3, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blalock had a higher UZR/150 than Davis
in his 8 games at first.
They just aren’t going to be at 1B for long and the Rangers management wants to give Davis as much a chance as possible since sending him down would probably ruin his fragile psyche for good.
by Texas_Dawg on Jul 3, 2009 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excuse me, but
8 games at first
You just defeated your own point.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 3, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really.
My point is that we don’t know how differently they could play first than Davis because they have never been given the chance.
And with a tiny sample size Blalock was even better at 1st than Davis has been.
People really overrate Davis’ defensive abilities. He most likely would prove to be better on defense than Blalock and Jones were they given the chance… but it likely wouldn’t make up for how much he sucks at the plate.
He has a negative WAR. They don’t. I don’t think their playing first would drive them below where he is in that category.
by Texas_Dawg on Jul 3, 2009 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tiny 8 games samples sizes don't mean shit, especially with defensive stats
Don’t you know that?
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 3, 2009 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course.
Like I say, no one knows.
by Texas_Dawg on Jul 3, 2009 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
...
This is like arguing with Joe Morgan.
“We don’t know for sure that they suck at first base, because they haven’t played there.”
Well shit, maybe we should just start drawing names out of a hat when we decide who plays where. I mean who knows, we might find out Elvis Andrus can catch and Marlon Byrd can play shortstop.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 3, 2009 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't you think the coaching staff knows?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jul 3, 2009 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He should just ask Tommy Hicks
then he could set us all straight on the matter.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 4, 2009 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh forgive me
I thought you had all the inside info
http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/6/16/911859/36-27#17059327
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 4, 2009 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yawn.
I thought you had all the inside info
by Texas_Dawg on Jul 4, 2009 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This post
needs an animated emoticon.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 4, 2009 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
But I don’t think the decision to keep playing Davis is entirely based on the question of net offense/defense.
I think he gets a big premium for being a prospect and more likely to be there for longer. But I think he’s burning through that pretty quickly.
by Texas_Dawg on Jul 4, 2009 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Question
since sending him down would probably ruin his fragile psyche for good.
Care to elaborate?
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 3, 2009 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No.
Just a hunch.
Dude looks soft, imho.
by Texas_Dawg on Jul 3, 2009 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, shit
Then we better trade him now while someone out there thinks he might possibly be good, since it sounds like he’ll be worthless in another year.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 3, 2009 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No argument here.
I’m not expecting him to ever be more than a .220 hitter.
by Texas_Dawg on Jul 3, 2009 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Based on this season?
Or was this your p.o.v. at the end of 2008, as well?
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 3, 2009 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Based on everything we've seen to date.
2008 included.
by Texas_Dawg on Jul 3, 2009 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How did pitchers figure him out?
I’m guessing teams plotted the pitches, studied his ABs, and figured out more specifically over time where his weaknesses are.
Is that a trick question?
by Texas_Dawg on Jul 4, 2009 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And you saw that coming in 2008?
Please, tell me next week’s lottery numbers then.
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by baseballismyboyfriend on Jul 4, 2009 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You said
No argument here.
I’m not expecting him to ever be more than a .220 hitter.
by Texas_Dawg on Jul 3, 2009 9:54 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions 0 recs
Based on this season?
Or was this your p.o.v. at the end of 2008, as well?
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 3, 2009 9:55 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions 0 recs
Based on everything we’ve seen to date.
2008 included.
by Texas_Dawg on Jul 3, 2009 9:57 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions 0 recs
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by baseballismyboyfriend on Jul 4, 2009 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's not saying I thought it after 2008.
It’s saying I think it now.
by Texas_Dawg on Jul 4, 2009 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs