Ranger Bats in July
by DJCahill on Jul 30, 2009 10:18 AM CDT
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| NAME | GP | AB | BA | OBP | SLG | OPS |
| Andruw Jones | 17 | 62 | 0.226 | 0.333 | 0.677 | 1.011 |
| Julio Borbon | 2 | 2 | 0.500 | 0.500 | 0.500 | 1.000 |
| Michael Young | 23 | 89 | 0.360 | 0.414 | 0.573 | 0.987 |
| Nelson Cruz | 16 | 57 | 0.281 | 0.359 | 0.596 | 0.956 |
| David Murphy | 18 | 54 | 0.333 | 0.406 | 0.463 | 0.869 |
| Hank Blalock | 23 | 92 | 0.283 | 0.313 | 0.511 | 0.823 |
| Marlon Byrd | 23 | 86 | 0.244 | 0.313 | 0.395 | 0.708 |
| Elvis Andrus | 20 | 66 | 0.258 | 0.301 | 0.348 | 0.650 |
| Omar Vizquel | 6 | 19 | 0.211 | 0.318 | 0.263 | 0.581 |
| J. Saltalamacchia | 15 | 50 | 0.200 | 0.273 | 0.300 | 0.573 |
| Ian Kinsler | 21 | 89 | 0.157 | 0.200 | 0.348 | 0.548 |
| Josh Hamilton | 18 | 71 | 0.197 | 0.240 | 0.268 | 0.508 |
| T. Teagarden | 8 | 29 | 0.138 | 0.161 | 0.276 | 0.437 |
| Chris Davis | 4 | 11 | 0.182 | 0.182 | 0.182 | 0.364 |
Hopefully Hamilton and Kinsler can stop sucking so much. Its tough when the 2 guys who are supposed to be the bedrock of your offense turn into boat anchors.
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clearly
Nelson Cruz needs to be parked on the bench more often, and hit low in the lineup when he’s in there.
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
by tricer on Jul 30, 2009 10:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Also clearly
we need to bench Jones to make room for others.
God forbid we bench Kinsler and Hamilton when they are sucking.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 30, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jones playing 2B
would be interesting. :)
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jul 30, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd just as soon see
Omar as Kinsler right now.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 30, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As would Nadel
by some of his intimations during last nights game.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Jul 30, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was fairly critical
On Norm’s show this week as well.
I had a paper route when I was a kid. I was supposed to go to 2,000 houses. Or two dumpsters.
by TheBZA on Jul 30, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What did he say?
I would have liked to heard that interview.
Kinsler is right now making his way to my most disliked player on the team status. I expect so much more from him, and it is just so painful seeing that much suck lead off every night. If they would at least move him down in the order, it would be easier to deal with his slump.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 30, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He agreed (without being prompted)
That Kinsler was more or less swinging for the fences at every pitch. He said he didn’t think he was doing that last year, or earlier in the year when he was hot. Said he was also a pull hitter and he’s just not seeing it now.
I had a paper route when I was a kid. I was supposed to go to 2,000 houses. Or two dumpsters.
by TheBZA on Jul 30, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
always a pull hitter*
I had a paper route when I was a kid. I was supposed to go to 2,000 houses. Or two dumpsters.
by TheBZA on Jul 30, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Almost reminiscent
of Blalock’s change in approach.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 30, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
FU for linking those two names
But yeah, I agree.
{sad panda}
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Jul 30, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I need to register FireRudy.com
I had a paper route when I was a kid. I was supposed to go to 2,000 houses. Or two dumpsters.
by TheBZA on Jul 30, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In Rudy's defense
Ian was an extreme pull hitter in the minors also.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jul 30, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was referring
To the lack of patience and hack away habits it seems most of the team has adopted.
I had a paper route when I was a kid. I was supposed to go to 2,000 houses. Or two dumpsters.
by TheBZA on Jul 30, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And to add to it
he comes on with BaDD radio last week with a huge fucking chip on his shoulder acting like a dick…he’s really starting to lose me
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
by TheJeezus on Jul 30, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you expand on your thought? How was he acting?
by oc on Jul 30, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like a punk d-bag.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Jul 30, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had read that in another thread
Basically scoffed at the idea that he was swinging for the fences and essentially said the fans didn’t know what they were talking about.
I had a paper route when I was a kid. I was supposed to go to 2,000 houses. Or two dumpsters.
by TheBZA on Jul 30, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
what a dick.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Jul 30, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh
I kind of do too.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Jul 30, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Harsh
Time for a moniker change?
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Jul 30, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't.
yay.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Jul 30, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Timely.
"Guys are visual creatures, that’s how we’ve been wired, for millennia…only fat and or ugly chicks use that word you just typed." - Rodney
by Chase Irwin on Jul 30, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bob
made reference to his current struggles and his approach at the plate and Ian replied (and I’m paraphrasing here): I want to go on record right now on BaDD radio and say that I swing for the fences every time I’m at the plate. That’s all I do is swing for the fences.
It was clearly an irritated, snide stab critics of his plate approach…and it was fucking annoying.
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
by TheJeezus on Jul 30, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was Ian being sacastic?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jul 30, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes of course he was
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 30, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh
I hope he doesn’t go the Teix route.
by behindthebag on Jul 30, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Id rather he go
the Teix route than the Blalock route.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 30, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He could go the Young route.
/Puke
"Guys are visual creatures, that’s how we’ve been wired, for millennia…only fat and or ugly chicks use that word you just typed." - Rodney
by Chase Irwin on Jul 30, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I blame ians struggles on the BAD radio curse
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jul 30, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never thought about it
but you’re right.
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
by TheJeezus on Jul 30, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe, the benching has played a part in why he is playing so well?
by tyd3311 on Jul 30, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because he played so poorly the three months before the benching?
by Darrell McKown on Jul 30, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh, yes, actually. The month of June, in particular
.193 /.268/.409
by tyd3311 on Jul 30, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They need to try that
with Hamilton then.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 30, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When teams give IBB to get to you on back to back nites
it is about time to sit.
by diamond_dave on Jul 30, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That made me sad
"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09
by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jones
It is funny to me how long people are carrying their preseason hatred of that signing.
by bushe on Jul 30, 2009 10:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's one of the
damnedest things I’ve seen.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 30, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My goodness...
is MY having himself a season or what?
Don’t hear nearly as many people bitching about his bad contact this year. I know his defense han’t been very good (and that contract is still pretty bad), but his offense returning to what is was in ‘04/’05 sure has been a pleasant surprise.
Damn does this team need to get something from Kinsler, Hamilton, and the catchers spot. Without that, the West can’t be won. Halladay or no Halladay.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jul 30, 2009 10:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
MY isn't a top 5 offensive player on this team.
by tyd3311 on Jul 30, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wrong...
He is this year. In fact, he’s second in OPS behind Jones. That makes him first amongst the regulars.
Saying he isn’t a top 5 offensive player on this team is pretty stupid. Have you seen the offense this year?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jul 30, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From who?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jul 30, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well in their defense...
I don’t think any of us saw Hamilton and Kinsler falling off like they have. Many of us thought CD would build off last year. Many of us also thought either Salty or TT would have a much better year, and most of us thought MY would continue to regress at the plate.
In a perfect world he may not have been in the top 5 (Hamilton, Kinsler, Cruz, CD, Salty) but things certainly haven’t worked out that way this year.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jul 30, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bleh
I expected regression from Hamilton, Kinsler and Davis (especially Davis).
I was expecting improvement from Salty, though.
To be fair, I didn’t think that Hamilton would drop off the table like he has.
Kinsler has been a little unlucky, though (BABIP of .234/ career BABIP of .295), and he’s been serviceable.
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by Requiem on Jul 30, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kinsler
has been serviceable on the year, but thats made up of being ungodly for a month, above average for a month, below average for a month, and sucking monkey nuts for a month.
Its been fairly odd year for him.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 30, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you expected...
MY to be more productive than Kinsler, Hamilton, and Davis before the season then I’m taking you to Vegas with me.
I will need to see some kind of proof of that as well Req.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jul 30, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you continuously employ an uppercut swing
you are going to have a really low BABIP
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's basically having the second-best offensive season of his career.
"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels
by lonestarJon on Jul 30, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trade him while his value is high?
What about unloading that contract now while we have a chance to do so? Think we could get a solid young cheap 3b for young/font/beltre or a package like that? Free up a lot of salary for deadline and/or offseason moves?
I don’t think it’ll happen because of his leadership qualities, but I wouldn’t be shocked to see him shopped this offseason.
by rangerjake on Jul 30, 2009 10:59 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Who the hell
would want to take on Young’s atrocious contract
by devsr on Jul 30, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trade him while his value is high?
What about unloading that contract now while we have a chance to do so? Think we could get a solid young cheap 3b for young/font/beltre or a package like that? Free up a lot of salary for deadline and/or offseason moves?
I don’t think it’ll happen because of his leadership qualities, but I wouldn’t be shocked to see him shopped this offseason.
by rangerjake on Jul 30, 2009 11:01 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
He is untradeable
That contract can’t be moved.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 30, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
Someone might give you a Hamburger type if you ate about $15 million of his contract.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 30, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this past offseason
when he “demanded” a trade and it was clear nobody was interesting shows what kind of value he has.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 30, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
*interested
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 30, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is having a career year
so I suppose that helps his value but yeah I don’t think he’s tradeable.
by Agreen07 on Jul 30, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yalp
Besides, this org has zero depth at 3rd base (no, John Whittleman doesn’t count).
"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels
by lonestarJon on Jul 30, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you had to have a guy that was untradeable
better a guy like MY vs. a clubhouse cancer.
by Agreen07 on Jul 30, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
.833 Blalock, lol.
So much for that 10 day stretch.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Jul 30, 2009 10:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what irritates me about ops
is that slg and obp counts equally. blalock still makes more outs than almost everyone on the team, its just that his average hit is a double so his ops looks ok.
by Fireal20 on Jul 30, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right
That’s a major issue with OPS.
Though, it is MUCH, MUCH better than citing BA, HRs, and RBIs.
Baby steps :).
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by Requiem on Jul 30, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
stats that are significantly better
aren’t as easy to calculate or as transparent. Does anyone know the formula for wOBA.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 30, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This explanation of (and formula for) wOBA might be helpful
wOBA = (0.72xNIBB + 0.75xHBP + 0.90×1B + 0.92xRBOE + 1.24×2B + 1.56×3B + 1.95xHR) / PA
by Joey Matschulat on Jul 30, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Hank F. Blalock...
…was carrying This Thing.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 30, 2009 10:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, he was carrying This Thing.
but it’s been feast or famine with him.
Getting ab’s every day agrees with him and the chemistry of the team sans Davis is much better.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."
by Josey Wales on Jul 30, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you can hardly carry anything
with famine involved
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Jul 30, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't have any clue what the chemistry of the team is like
with or without Davis.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 30, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Winning is the great deoderant
and the chemistry of the team became much better the night Wash stopped platooning Blalock to keep an inferior bat (CDavis) into the line-up.
June record : 11-15
July record : 15-8
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."
by Josey Wales on Jul 30, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It just isn't worth it
I slip up every now and then. Carry on.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 30, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's kindof funny
he is so pro blalock, and anti-davis. blalock is gone after this year and davis is going to be a part of the future of this team. he has to live with it.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Jul 30, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I used to love the future of Chris Davis but now I just like it.
I don’t like seeing young players who are not ready for The Show drowning, especially when it is clearly costing a team with a chance for post-season wins.
You cannot survive 162 games in the AL with a 1B who has a .256 obp.
Hopefully this year was an aberration and next year Davis makes the necessary adjustments and has a wonderful career but he was in The Show 6 weeks longer than he should have been in 2009.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."
by Josey Wales on Jul 30, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How Murphy isn't batting leadoff
is beyond me at this point.
by Agreen07 on Jul 30, 2009 11:01 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you
as long as someone else leads off versus lefties.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 30, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you remember reading my post 1 or 2 weeks ago?
I had Murphy in the leadoff spot and when it’s a lefty pitcher, have Kinsler leadoff since he rocks lefties.
by Coolbean04 on Jul 30, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Elvis
.412 OBP vs lefties. Hit him leadoff vs. southpaws, put Kinsler cleanup.
"After intense analysis, I have come to the conclusion that Neftali Feliz throws fucking hard." - John Sickels
by lonestarJon on Jul 30, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gut says he is not ready for lead-off and we are getting such good results from that spot
you don’t want to mess it up.
by diamond_dave on Jul 30, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Either Kinsler or Andrus
would work for me.
But yeah, I’d definitely like to see Kinsler taken out against righties. He is probably hurting us more than any other player offensively right now, given his suckitude in July and his crappiness in June plus the fact that he has been near the top of the team in ABs.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 30, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Kinsler and Hamilton would start to hit
it would be like adding 2 bats at the deadline. Along with a possible resurgence from Davis, this lineup would already be better.
I would like to see Borbon called up and playing everyday in CF. (not based on his 1 for 2, but based on his CF defense, and his chance of making an impact in 2010
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Jul 30, 2009 11:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah,
Kinsler and Hamilton carrying 850+ OPS basicly fixes this thing offensively, assuming nothing else breaks.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 30, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and I don't think it's that big of an "if"
I had the flu way before having the flu was cool
by TagDon'tTweet on Jul 30, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see that
I had the flu way before having the flu was cool
by TagDon'tTweet on Jul 30, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jones
I’m curious what kind of contract he’s going to get next season, and where. He has certainly done a lot to help himself out this season.
"Was this really necsarry?" - cowpoke/hurler hurley
by trza on Jul 30, 2009 11:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He won't be getting one with us
but yeah I’m interested too. He’s only a DH at this point though so that hurts his value.
by Agreen07 on Jul 30, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What?
He has a UZR of 2.7 (UZR/150 of 25.7) in limited time in RF and LF this year.
He had a UZR of -0.3 in CF last year.
In the previous 6 years he had a UZR of 13 to 30 in CF.
He is NOT only a DH at this point.
He might not be a viable everyday CF, but there’s been no evidence that I’ve seen that he can ONLY DH now.
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by Requiem on Jul 30, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he could still
play CF, he could get a nice one.
Since he can’t, maybe a $5 million per year for a year or 2?
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 30, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think that's a little high
maybe more like $2-3 mill
I had the flu way before having the flu was cool
by TagDon'tTweet on Jul 30, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Second best offseason value - bargain wise
after Abreu?
by Agreen07 on Jul 30, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'll still be getting 3.2 mil from the Dodgers
…per year …through 2014!
"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09
by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT - NY Times sez Big Papi was on "The List"
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/31/sports/baseball/31doping.html?_r=1&ref=sports
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 30, 2009 11:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That's completely
unshocking.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 30, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hah yeah
You can add him to the list of hypocrites if true.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 30, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
with palmeiro right at the top of that list.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jul 30, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Along with probably
about 80% of major lg baseball
You are obsessed with bodily wastes A turd being held under my nose, this team being a steaming pile, Jonny Donuts having a stinky diaper, the front office pissing themselves, the team crapping the bed…
I think you should seek counselling.
(AJM to Josey Donuts)
by Michael Cave on Jul 30, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'd just assume they release all 100 names
and stop this name here and there trickling out nonsense.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jul 30, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree 100%
You are obsessed with bodily wastes A turd being held under my nose, this team being a steaming pile, Jonny Donuts having a stinky diaper, the front office pissing themselves, the team crapping the bed…
I think you should seek counselling.
(AJM to Josey Donuts)
by Michael Cave on Jul 30, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So we are going to be getting
one name a month for the next 100 months? It woulld be best for all if they just released the entire list. Ater a month or so the story die.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jul 30, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They should
release them via commemorative trading cards like they did with the state quarters.
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
by TheJeezus on Jul 30, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
A new Wheaties steroids cereal box every month?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jul 30, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
some wicked protein shakes in the Domincan....
we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"
by eclou on Jul 30, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Twittered this last night, but it bears repeating.
Maybe it’s blasphemy to say this, but Josh Hamilton has options.
"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009
by ghtd36 on Jul 30, 2009 11:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd have no problem
with him being sent down for 50-100 PAs.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 30, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Jul 30, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Funny thing is
If you left him down for 3 weeks or so you could gain a full year of team control out of the deal
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jul 30, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kind of
makes it a no brainer to me.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 30, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you do it now, and he gets straightened out
You have him back for the stretch drive.
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
by tricer on Jul 30, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Worked for Giambi
A few years ago.
I had a paper route when I was a kid. I was supposed to go to 2,000 houses. Or two dumpsters.
by TheBZA on Jul 30, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Send him down.
Call Borbon up.
I like this. Improves the defense and offense in one fell swoop.
Or, atleast, the offense doesn’t get any worse..
by Trickman on Jul 30, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I second this emotion.
But it never will happen.
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
by TheJeezus on Jul 30, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it would be a boon. Murph and Cruz in the lineup everyday
we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"
by eclou on Jul 30, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT:
Josh Willingham was just pulled from the lineup in Washington.
"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009
by ghtd36 on Jul 30, 2009 12:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
supposedly due to injury
per Wash Times via Nats SBN board
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jul 30, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You see the Rolen
to Cincy rumors…for Alonso
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
by TheJeezus on Jul 30, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who wrote the book of love?
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman56 on Jul 30, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alonso is currently on the DL
with a broken hamate.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jul 30, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Andruw
Is the definition of a 3TO player right now. And not the Jason Botts mold of 3TO hitter, more like the Adam Dunn incarnation. The thing is, there’s no way he can maintain his current HR pace. He doesn’t have this kind of power anymore. And striking out 2-3 times a game is going to tear a giant chunk out of his ass.
Kanye, you want to be the voice of this generation? Get in line! It goes me, Obamagirl, the Freecreditreport.com guys, then It's a tie between you-and Crocs.
-Stephen Colbert
by Conjunction on Jul 30, 2009 2:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Andruw Jones
Is back to around his career K rate (23.5% this year, 22.3% career rate).
Last year was the anomoly (36.4% K rate).
His HR/FB rate is slightly better than his career HR/FB rate (22.7% this year, 19.5% career rate)
And it’s comparable to his HR/FB rates when he he had his good HR years.
Plus, he’s been a little unlucky (BABIP of .221 vs. career BABIP of .280).
So, I think it’s perfectly possible (especially since he plays at TBiA) for him to maintain ALL his current rates and have a higher BA to boot.
R
by Requiem on Jul 30, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It sometimes works to trade a good player at the deadline that you don’t want to resign (the F’n sourpuss Texiera for example). But do you really trust the Rangers to trade prospects for a rent-a-veteran type player (even Halliday). They’re not going to win the WS this year period. Enough is enough – stick to the plan- no more Ron Darlings / Walt Terrell for Lee Mazzilli trades ever again. Please or I’ll barf. And I’ve been barf’n for 37 years. I’m really not joking
by TedF'nFord on Jul 30, 2009 9:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
young has been a consisten .300 hitter his entire career hes got a shot at the batting title if he keeps it up…hell be a ranger for life, hamilton needs to work out the kinks maybe a stint in triple a? we have enough outfielders to cover well hes gone?
by NolanS on Jul 30, 2009 10:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We have
Murphy, Byrd, Cruz, we call up Borbon or Boggs for the forth/platoon OF, and use Jones as the fifth OF.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 30, 2009 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Josh...
looked a lot better at the plate last night imo.
Hopefully he is starting to turn it around.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jul 31, 2009 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we definitely need
for him to turn it around or we need to send him down.
Its just tough to give that many ABs to a guy who is bringing so little.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 31, 2009 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Concur
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jul 31, 2009 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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