Place your bets - Halladay
by LBBRangerFan on Jul 30, 2009 4:02 PM CDT
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Personally, I don't believe that he will go anywhere. I just don't get any sense of urgency from the Blue Jays, and I think that he would actually resign with Toronto unlike the Tex deal. I do know that JP is under a directive to cut payroll however.
Links to rumor mongers:
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9871032/MLB-trade-deadline-buzz:-Thursday%27s-edition
http://danny-knobler.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/view/8590096
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/
Do we want to make this the generic last day rumor thread?
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I put Rangers
Weird gut feeling culminating from Hicks sometimes mealy-mouthedness about payroll problems, the increasingly downscale trade market, Rangers superior trade ammo, and Rogers’ directive to cut costs.
Toronto’s 13.5 back. I think they deal him, and now’s the time… Call me crazy.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
I have a strange feeling it will be Texas
With some sort of package of Holland or Feliz, Teagarden, Chris Davis, Beavan or Kiker.
Sold
however, I think its about equally likely the package is Drew Meyer, Kelly Dransfeldt, Mendoza, Nate Gold and Frostad.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
After the Lee deal
It set the value of the trade market which looks very weak.
by Monkey Brain on Jul 30, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
That's why I don't think he gets traded right now.
No one is willing to mortgage their farm for him and he does not walk this winter.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Jul 30, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Isn't Beavan slated to pitch tonight?
If so it’ll be interesting to see how long they leave him out there.
"Losers assemble in little groups and bitch about the coaches and the system and other players in other little groups. Winners assemble as a team."
- Bill Parcells
for that package
i would do it without hesitation
Don't know if this been posted
Source: Jays scout at Rangers game — 5:10 p.m.
In an interview today with FOXSports.com senior baseball writer Ken Rosenthal, Toronto general manager J.P. Ricciardi didn’t sound optimistic about his chances of dealing Roy Halladay before Friday’s 4 p.m. deadline.
And yet …
One major-league source said the Jays dispatched a scout to watch rookie left-hander Derek Holland pitch for the Rangers tonight against Seattle.
If we read into that a little bit, it would appear that Texas still has a chance — albeit a slim one — of bringing Roy Halladay to Arlington.
Stay tuned.
Come on Dutch
and have a great game. 7IP/2ER/6K/1BB
I wouldnt mind Dealing dutch as long as Feliz, Smoak, and Perez were not included. I am even a bit hesitant to let Davis walk but that is me just really being a fan of Davis. I vote it gets done and its something to the tune of; Dutch, Beaven, Teagarden, Golsen, and Lemon
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
I would send Josey to lewinski JD if he pulled that trade off.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Jul 30, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I would lewinski JD if he pulled off that trade
I would lewinski you. I would lewinski Lewinski, for crying out loud
lets all be on the look out for any scouts looking all canadaish.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
by iorange555 on Jul 30, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
with the threat
of sending jim knox very close to him if he doesn’t write some damn good reviews.
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 30, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I wouldnt give up both Beavan and Kiker personally...
just the one for me…
i will gladly admit that i think young players like that are the future of baseball, especially for a team like the rangers
you are the one on crack
if someone like beavan or kiker keeps you from getting one of the 5 best pitchers in baseball
He stays in Toronto...
The Rangers simply don’t have the $ and the Jays won’t take back Padilla in a deal, nor should they really.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Padilla wouldn't sweat as much in Canada
That’s a plus right?
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
interesting
Source: Jays scout at Rangers game — 5:10 p.m.
In an interview today with FOXSports.com senior baseball writer Ken Rosenthal, Toronto general manager J.P. Ricciardi didn’t sound optimistic about his chances of dealing Roy Halladay before Friday’s 4 p.m. deadline.
And yet …
One major-league source said the Jays dispatched a scout to watch rookie left-hander Derek Holland pitch for the Rangers tonight against Seattle.
The Rays are scouting Derek Holland on Thursday. (Ronald Martinez / Getty Images)
If we read into that a little bit, it would appear that Texas still has a chance — albeit a slim one — of bringing Roy Halladay to Arlington.
Stay tuned.
usa
hopefully "this"
isn’t a ship that is sinking.
Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball
EG has not seen the Jays scout yet
and he sure hasn’t signed in for dinner.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Jul 30, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
this reminds me of so much of the Roger Clemens trade
we’ll end up giving the BJ’s what they want, but Red Sox will make a similar if not weaker offer, but Halladay will okay the deal to the Sox and decline going to the Rangers…
My call.
usa
sounds about right
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
I voted BlueJays
and I honestly hope he doesn’t end up here. It’s really not the time.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
Marlins making push for Nats 1B Johnson — 6:37 p.m.
The Marlins are making a strong push for Nationals first baseman Nick Johnson, but the teams have been unable to reach an agreement on the players the Nationals would receive in return, according to a major league source.
The Marlins have offered the Nationals minor league pitching prospects for Johnson. Among the names under discussion: Class AA left-hander Aaron Thompson Class AAA right-hander Ryan Tucker.
Rosenthal
Psh.
5:54pm: Bill Shaikin of the LA Times reports that the Dodgers and Blue Jays spent the afternoon “negotiating extensively” over Roy Halladay. Apparently talks aren’t “dead” after all. The Dodgers would allow the Jays to get a “haul of prospects” but are trying to acquire Halladay without giving up Clayton Kershaw or Chad Billingsley.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
I don't see how that is possible.
JP is looking for the top of the bunch in every system. You would think they would have to give up one or the other.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
Dodgers system isn't good enough
to come up with a realistic package that doesn’t include Kershaw or Billingsley.
by behindthebag on Jul 30, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Seems we could do a deal without Smoak or Feliz
and it would trump any deal without Kershaw or Billingsley
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
i think the dodgers
gotta try and match what philly did. may have some fear of STL now too
" This is the inning that propels us to the playoffs. Mark it down."
- Rohn Warshington on Jul 27, 2009 9:19 PM EDT
5th inning against the Tigers
It's on
6:06pm: MLB.com’s T.R. Sullivan hears that the Rangers have “significant ongoing communications” with the Blue Jays. He also suggests that the Rangers won’t let money prevent them from acquiring Halladay if they can do so for a reasonable price.
Dodgers vs Rangers.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
The Rangers still haven’t given up hope of acquiring Roy Halladay. Word is the Rangers still have significant on-going communications going on between them and the Blue Jays with under 24 hours to go before the Trade Deadline.
There are also indications that the Rangers are not going to let money get in the way if they can land Halladay for a reasonable package.
The Blue Jays are not going to give him away. Some of the names that have been thrown around include first baseman Justin Smoak, shortstop Elvis Andrus, outfielder Julio Borbon and pitchers Neftali Feliz and Derek Holland.
The Rangers have to weigh that against having for Halladay for just 11/2 years. But apparently this going to come down to a baseball decision. The Rangers apparently are not going to let money get in the way of getting this guy.
http://trades.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/07/rangers_still_working_seriousl.html
usa
ahhh yeah
www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1Ww4-3gr8Y
FIRE DAVE ANDERSON!
by JimCrankshaft on Jul 30, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
lets see what happens
if we can do it by just trading one of the top 5, it is a no brainer for me
aka
holland/feliz, davis, salty, kiker/beavan
I say Holland.
I’m not certain Feliz will be the HOF everyone thinks.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
I know it's just me
But I want Holland over Feliz.
by brettgardner on Jul 30, 2009 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Just a thought here
Didn’t the parent co. order costs cut? Seems the GM is trying to dump salary AND rape somebody for Halladay, since they refuse to cover any salary.
I would offer them 4 of anyone in our Milb system except Feliz, Smoak, Perex and Borbon if that’s the case. The suits are happy, b/c he dumps about 20 mil in salary and he gets to brag in the papers about getting 4 “top prospects” out of the #1 farm system.
He says no, we walk.
No sense getting stumpbroke by JP Turdbird.
Never argue with a fool. Onlookers might not be able to tell you apart.
GM are lying POS this time of year.
6:06pm: MLB.com’s T.R. Sullivan hears that the Rangers have “significant ongoing communications” with the Blue Jays. He also suggests that the Rangers won’t let money prevent them from acquiring Halladay if they can do so for a reasonable price.
5:57pm: Bill Shaikin of the LA Times reports that the Dodgers and Blue Jays spent the afternoon “negotiating extensively” over Roy Halladay. Apparently talks aren’t “dead” after all. The Dodgers would allow the Jays to get a “haul of prospects” but are trying to acquire Halladay without giving up Clayton Kershaw or Chad Billingsley.
5:38pm: Here are the latest highlights from the incessant stream of Roy Halladay rumors. The Jays aren’t talking actively with anyone. Not the Red Sox, not the Yankees, not the Rangers. The Dodgers acquired George Sherrill for a pair of minor leaguers, but they still have enough pieces to tempt the Jays. Like the Angels, they’re focused on relievers now. GM J.P. Ricciardi says he has "nothing going on," but won’t rule out a trade until the deadline is upon us. On to tonight’s rumors:
Of course, there really is no benefit to telling the truth right now either.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
Never understood...
Why someone reports that there aren’t serious talks going on when someone else reports that there are. Its kinda like someone remembering that they left the remote under the bed while the other person claims they remember not leaving the remote under the bed.
It'll all be clear
tomorrow.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
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