Place your bets - Halladay

by LBBRangerFan on Jul 30, 2009 4:02 PM CDT Comment 63 comments

Where do you think he will end up?

Personally, I don't believe that he will go anywhere. I just don't get any sense of urgency from the Blue Jays, and I think that he would actually resign with Toronto unlike the Tex deal. I do know that JP is under a directive to cut payroll however.

Links to rumor mongers:

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9871032/MLB-trade-deadline-buzz:-Thursday%27s-edition

http://danny-knobler.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/view/8590096

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

Will Carroll (Twitter)

Kevin Goldstein (Twitter)

Do we want to make this the generic last day rumor thread?

Poll

It is almost 23 Hours till the deadline. Who will Halladay be playing for tomorrow evening.

Blue Jays

60 votes

Boston

13 votes

LA Dodgers

8 votes

LAAAAAAAAAofA

5 votes

Rangers

26 votes

Other

1 votes

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I put Rangers

Weird gut feeling culminating from Hicks sometimes mealy-mouthedness about payroll problems, the increasingly downscale trade market, Rangers superior trade ammo, and Rogers’ directive to cut costs.

Toronto’s 13.5 back. I think they deal him, and now’s the time… Call me crazy.

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Jul 30, 2009 4:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I have a strange feeling it will be Texas

With some sort of package of Holland or Feliz, Teagarden, Chris Davis, Beavan or Kiker.

by Monkey Brain on Jul 30, 2009 4:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

same

FIRE DAVE ANDERSON!

by Butters on Jul 30, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sold

however, I think its about equally likely the package is Drew Meyer, Kelly Dransfeldt, Mendoza, Nate Gold and Frostad.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 30, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

After the Lee deal

It set the value of the trade market which looks very weak.

by Monkey Brain on Jul 30, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's why I don't think he gets traded right now.

No one is willing to mortgage their farm for him and he does not walk this winter.

Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."

by LBBRangerFan on Jul 30, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Isn't Beavan slated to pitch tonight?

If so it’ll be interesting to see how long they leave him out there.

"Losers assemble in little groups and bitch about the coaches and the system and other players in other little groups. Winners assemble as a team."
- Bill Parcells

by Taylor on Jul 30, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

for that package

i would do it without hesitation

by kumizi on Jul 30, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don't know if this been posted

Source: Jays scout at Rangers game — 5:10 p.m.
In an interview today with FOXSports.com senior baseball writer Ken Rosenthal, Toronto general manager J.P. Ricciardi didn’t sound optimistic about his chances of dealing Roy Halladay before Friday’s 4 p.m. deadline.

And yet …

One major-league source said the Jays dispatched a scout to watch rookie left-hander Derek Holland pitch for the Rangers tonight against Seattle.

If we read into that a little bit, it would appear that Texas still has a chance — albeit a slim one — of bringing Roy Halladay to Arlington.

Stay tuned.

by Monkey Brain on Jul 30, 2009 4:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Come on Dutch

and have a great game. 7IP/2ER/6K/1BB

I wouldnt mind Dealing dutch as long as Feliz, Smoak, and Perez were not included. I am even a bit hesitant to let Davis walk but that is me just really being a fan of Davis. I vote it gets done and its something to the tune of; Dutch, Beaven, Teagarden, Golsen, and Lemon

Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!

by thad728 on Jul 30, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would send Josey to lewinski JD if he pulled that trade off.

Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."

by LBBRangerFan on Jul 30, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would lewinski JD if he pulled off that trade

I would lewinski you. I would lewinski Lewinski, for crying out loud

by BuckyB on Jul 30, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

lets all be on the look out for any scouts looking all canadaish.

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on Jul 30, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

One of us distracts him

while the other re-configures his radar gun by 2-3 mph.

by BuckyB on Jul 30, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

and keep jim knox far away from him.

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on Jul 30, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

with the threat

of sending jim knox very close to him if he doesn’t write some damn good reviews.

by GhettoBear04 on Jul 30, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You mean Canadian?

by oc on Jul 30, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Like This

"Let me tell you something my friend. Hope is a dangerous thing. Hope can drive a man insane." ---Red, The Shawshank Redeption

by drizzle on Jul 30, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Key...

What else would it cost though

by Horns130 on Jul 30, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Beavan, Kiker, Moreland

usa

by Longhorn on Jul 30, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wouldnt give up both Beavan and Kiker personally...

just the one for me…

i will gladly admit that i think young players like that are the future of baseball, especially for a team like the rangers

by Horns130 on Jul 30, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you are the one on crack

if someone like beavan or kiker keeps you from getting one of the 5 best pitchers in baseball

by kumizi on Jul 30, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

for 1.33333 years

that is not enough time to sell out

by Horns130 on Jul 30, 2009 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i cant decide

are you for, or against trading for halladay?

by trgordon723 on Jul 30, 2009 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He stays in Toronto...

The Rangers simply don’t have the $ and the Jays won’t take back Padilla in a deal, nor should they really.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jul 30, 2009 4:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Padilla wouldn't sweat as much in Canada

That’s a plus right?

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jul 30, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

With the Rangers Luck he will go to the Angels

or Seattle

Larry Parrish Was Da Man!

by TRFAN on Jul 30, 2009 4:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Boston

Boston always gets it done, and they have to overtake the yanks.

by SanDiegoKev on Jul 30, 2009 4:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

interesting

Source: Jays scout at Rangers game — 5:10 p.m.

In an interview today with FOXSports.com senior baseball writer Ken Rosenthal, Toronto general manager J.P. Ricciardi didn’t sound optimistic about his chances of dealing Roy Halladay before Friday’s 4 p.m. deadline.

And yet …

One major-league source said the Jays dispatched a scout to watch rookie left-hander Derek Holland pitch for the Rangers tonight against Seattle.

The Rays are scouting Derek Holland on Thursday. (Ronald Martinez / Getty Images)

If we read into that a little bit, it would appear that Texas still has a chance — albeit a slim one — of bringing Roy Halladay to Arlington.

Stay tuned.

usa

by Longhorn on Jul 30, 2009 5:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

oops

shoulda scrolled up. my bad.

usa

by Longhorn on Jul 30, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's all good man. We're in this together.

by oc on Jul 30, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

hopefully "this"

isn’t a ship that is sinking.

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by willamos2 on Jul 30, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

EG has not seen the Jays scout yet

and he sure hasn’t signed in for dinner.

Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."

by LBBRangerFan on Jul 30, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

this reminds me of so much of the Roger Clemens trade

we’ll end up giving the BJ’s what they want, but Red Sox will make a similar if not weaker offer, but Halladay will okay the deal to the Sox and decline going to the Rangers…

My call.

usa

by Longhorn on Jul 30, 2009 5:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

sounds about right

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I voted BlueJays

and I honestly hope he doesn’t end up here. It’s really not the time.

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by TxStCa on Jul 30, 2009 5:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Marlins making push for Nats 1B Johnson — 6:37 p.m.

The Marlins are making a strong push for Nationals first baseman Nick Johnson, but the teams have been unable to reach an agreement on the players the Nationals would receive in return, according to a major league source.

The Marlins have offered the Nationals minor league pitching prospects for Johnson. Among the names under discussion: Class AA left-hander Aaron Thompson Class AAA right-hander Ryan Tucker.

Rosenthal

by oc on Jul 30, 2009 5:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

So Kiker and Moscoso?

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by TxStCa on Jul 30, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

DODGERS GET OFF HALLADAYS NUTS

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on Jul 30, 2009 5:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Psh.

5:54pm: Bill Shaikin of the LA Times reports that the Dodgers and Blue Jays spent the afternoon “negotiating extensively” over Roy Halladay. Apparently talks aren’t “dead” after all. The Dodgers would allow the Jays to get a “haul of prospects” but are trying to acquire Halladay without giving up Clayton Kershaw or Chad Billingsley.

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on Jul 30, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't see how that is possible.

JP is looking for the top of the bunch in every system. You would think they would have to give up one or the other.

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by TxStCa on Jul 30, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

once this trade goes down

our comps will trump any other team’s…

usa

by Longhorn on Jul 30, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dodgers system isn't good enough

to come up with a realistic package that doesn’t include Kershaw or Billingsley.

by behindthebag on Jul 30, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Seems we could do a deal without Smoak or Feliz

and it would trump any deal without Kershaw or Billingsley

by DJCahill on Jul 30, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i think the dodgers

gotta try and match what philly did. may have some fear of STL now too

" This is the inning that propels us to the playoffs. Mark it down."
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5th inning against the Tigers

by gossamer on Jul 30, 2009 6:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

It's on

6:06pm: MLB.com’s T.R. Sullivan hears that the Rangers have “significant ongoing communications” with the Blue Jays. He also suggests that the Rangers won’t let money prevent them from acquiring Halladay if they can do so for a reasonable price.

Dodgers vs Rangers.

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on Jul 30, 2009 6:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

ahhhh snap

by tyd3311 on Jul 30, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

it's going to happen

holland, salty/tea, beavan and some other dood

usa

by Longhorn on Jul 30, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Rangers still haven’t given up hope of acquiring Roy Halladay. Word is the Rangers still have significant on-going communications going on between them and the Blue Jays with under 24 hours to go before the Trade Deadline.

There are also indications that the Rangers are not going to let money get in the way if they can land Halladay for a reasonable package.

The Blue Jays are not going to give him away. Some of the names that have been thrown around include first baseman Justin Smoak, shortstop Elvis Andrus, outfielder Julio Borbon and pitchers Neftali Feliz and Derek Holland.

The Rangers have to weigh that against having for Halladay for just 11/2 years. But apparently this going to come down to a baseball decision. The Rangers apparently are not going to let money get in the way of getting this guy.

http://trades.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/07/rangers_still_working_seriousl.html

usa

by Longhorn on Jul 30, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ahhh yeah

www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1Ww4-3gr8Y

FIRE DAVE ANDERSON!

by Butters on Jul 30, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

lets see what happens

if we can do it by just trading one of the top 5, it is a no brainer for me

by kumizi on Jul 30, 2009 6:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

aka

holland/feliz, davis, salty, kiker/beavan

by kumizi on Jul 30, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i'd be fine with that.

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on Jul 30, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

sorry orange

FIRE DAVE ANDERSON!

by Butters on Jul 30, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Who should I miss more: Holland or Feliz?

by oc on Jul 30, 2009 6:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I say Holland.

I’m not certain Feliz will be the HOF everyone thinks.

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by iorange555 on Jul 30, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Feliz.

Once in a generation arm.

by tyd3311 on Jul 30, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think a feeling a sickness would come in your stomach the first time you saw Feliz pitch in a Blue Jays uniform.

by tyd3311 on Jul 30, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know it's just me

But I want Holland over Feliz.

by brettgardner on Jul 30, 2009 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just a thought here

Didn’t the parent co. order costs cut? Seems the GM is trying to dump salary AND rape somebody for Halladay, since they refuse to cover any salary.
I would offer them 4 of anyone in our Milb system except Feliz, Smoak, Perex and Borbon if that’s the case. The suits are happy, b/c he dumps about 20 mil in salary and he gets to brag in the papers about getting 4 “top prospects” out of the #1 farm system.
He says no, we walk.
No sense getting stumpbroke by JP Turdbird.

Never argue with a fool. Onlookers might not be able to tell you apart.

by randyd on Jul 30, 2009 6:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

GM are lying POS this time of year.

6:06pm: MLB.com’s T.R. Sullivan hears that the Rangers have “significant ongoing communications” with the Blue Jays. He also suggests that the Rangers won’t let money prevent them from acquiring Halladay if they can do so for a reasonable price.

5:57pm: Bill Shaikin of the LA Times reports that the Dodgers and Blue Jays spent the afternoon “negotiating extensively” over Roy Halladay. Apparently talks aren’t “dead” after all. The Dodgers would allow the Jays to get a “haul of prospects” but are trying to acquire Halladay without giving up Clayton Kershaw or Chad Billingsley.

5:38pm: Here are the latest highlights from the incessant stream of Roy Halladay rumors. The Jays aren’t talking actively with anyone. Not the Red Sox, not the Yankees, not the Rangers. The Dodgers acquired George Sherrill for a pair of minor leaguers, but they still have enough pieces to tempt the Jays. Like the Angels, they’re focused on relievers now. GM J.P. Ricciardi says he has "nothing going on," but won’t rule out a trade until the deadline is upon us. On to tonight’s rumors:

Of course, there really is no benefit to telling the truth right now either.

Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."

by LBBRangerFan on Jul 30, 2009 6:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Never understood...

Why someone reports that there aren’t serious talks going on when someone else reports that there are. Its kinda like someone remembering that they left the remote under the bed while the other person claims they remember not leaving the remote under the bed.

by groundingout on Jul 30, 2009 8:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs