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Texas Rangers starting pitcher Derek Holland delivers to the Seattle Mariners in the first inning of a baseball game in Arlington, Texas, Thursday, July 30, 2009. (AP Photo/Tony Gutierrez)

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6 months ago: Texas Rangers starting pitcher Derek Holland delivers to the Seattle Mariners in the first inning of a baseball game in Arlington, Texas, Thursday, July 30, 2009. (AP Photo/Tony Gutierrez)

I'm goose-bumpy.

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that was just awesome

please don’t trade him.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jul 30, 2009 9:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+++++++++infiniti

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jul 30, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+ lazy 8

Alma para conquistarte, corazón para quererte, y vida para vivirla junto a ti.

by chrisR on Jul 30, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Evan Grant
9:26: Maybe this is an emotional decision, but based on the reaction of the fans and his teammates and just his flat-out performance, I think there is no way the Rangers can put Holland in a deal for Halladay now. If it costs them Halladay, it costs them Halladay. And if it forces Toronto to hold on to him rather than trade him to Boston or Philadelphia, all the better. This has been an incredible night and one I predict will be revisited a number of times at the end of this season after all the results are in.

I agree. If we do trade for Halladay no way Holland is in it.

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on Jul 30, 2009 9:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

which i thin just effed up any trade

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope EG is right

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jul 30, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM

Hello Win Column

by lonestarJon on Jul 30, 2009 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is how I was feeling all day

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jul 30, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

one more

coming back from the darkside

will you come too iorange

by Horns130 on Jul 30, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still want Halladay

If you look on the side post. I said i’d rather trade Feliz and not Holland.

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on Jul 30, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would do a

Smoak, Kiker, Font, TT and Lemon.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jul 30, 2009 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

At this point

I’d wait till next season, where Halladay will cost a fraction of the price.

I’m a white boy who doesn’t think a black man is good enough to manage my baseball team. - LSJ
"I really think that" - LSJ, on being asked by AirJordan

by FirebatM3 on Jul 30, 2009 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jul 30, 2009 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know really.

I’d think about it. Sadly there ain’t a lot of time to be thinking about it.

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on Jul 30, 2009 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then i think youve lost your mind

how can you trade 2 prospects in the top20/10?…how

and then you also trade a couple guys in the top 100

that would make it look like Atl gave us nothing for tex

by Horns130 on Jul 30, 2009 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just think we could easily still have a bright future without those two guys.

Obviously it’d be brighter with them (probably) you never know what prospects will become.

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on Jul 30, 2009 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You play the odds

if you want to give up that much…get someone controllable

by Horns130 on Jul 30, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

MY has really liked Durch since he was called up

I can’t see him being traded.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 30, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't realize MY had to approve all trades

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is the FOTF

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 30, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Funny...

Holland didn’t look half as torn up about that run as this place did.

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 9:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

go figure

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dutch is the shit.

I just misremembered that I remembered something.

Dutch won’t get dealt because of F Face.

Trade for Ian Snell.

by sprite on Jul 30, 2009 9:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

um, that is incorrect

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am John Daniels.

Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.

by Aquaman56 on Jul 30, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

John?

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
-Rogers Hornsby

by Haeger Champ on Jul 30, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Juan?

She say she are the manager.

by rockin_rangers on Jul 30, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Two?

Alma para conquistarte, corazón para quererte, y vida para vivirla junto a ti.

by chrisR on Jul 30, 2009 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Three

What are fighting for? Don’t ask me. I don’t give a damn.

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

something about vietnam

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Next stop is Viet Nam

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

how do you know?

I don’t know but I can surmise from the rumors we’ve been hearing, common sense, and the prsence of scouts

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Common sense?

Not sure how that applies.

Specifically, what rumors are you referring to that show the Rangers have seriously considered trading Holland recently?

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you retarded?

His name pops up in nearly every story. Of course you don’t hear JD saying “yeah we’re definitely considering throwing in Holland.”

But you never hear that kind of stuff. Doesn’t mean there haven’t been a shitload of rumors.

by brettgardner on Jul 30, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chill...

I was simply asking for the specific rumors leading ab03 to believe the Rangers were actually proposing trading Holland.

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chill?

Go fuck yourself. You’re being an abrasive asshole (and I know what that’s like) and a smarter asshole than you (ab) is calling you out on your bullshit.

by brettgardner on Jul 30, 2009 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks?

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What is that?

Mooning?

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's the best kind of asshole to be!

"You'll meet them again on their long journey to the middle." -Lester Bangs

by BAC on Jul 30, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL.

Yeah… chill…

Walk back through this sub-thread here.

Someone said Holland wasn’t getting traded. I said he never was. ab03 said that was wrong. I asked how he knew. He told me he was going by rumors. I asked what specific rumors he was referring to. Seems like a pretty rational discussion…

And then you showed up flipping out.

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's not flipping out.

He’s flipping you off. For good reason.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 30, 2009 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pre-game call

7.1 innings, 8 Ks, 1 walk, 1 run.

Pretty pretty close.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Jul 30, 2009 9:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I had just given you props in the GDT, but it got closed.

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

why thankyou =)

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Jul 30, 2009 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Credit where credit is due

Or maybe “Even a blind squirrel sometimes finds a nut” :-)

You were a bit pessimistic, though.

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would just like to say...

To everyone who has ever doubted Derek Holland… FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM

Hello Win Column

by lonestarJon on Jul 30, 2009 9:32 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I think you mistake people who have simply pointed out to you that the

guy isn’t a 10-time CY Award winner yet as “doubters”, fwiw.

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about the Salty doubters?

Cuz that’s the only dude I remember you squawking about.

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales

by Brian Thomas on Jul 30, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

By the way...

With the Rangers having won more games through the first 100 games in any season save for one… what would you like to say to the Ron Washington doubters?

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd say

“Thank you, Mike Maddux”

Alma para conquistarte, corazón para quererte, y vida para vivirla junto a ti.

by chrisR on Jul 30, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL.

Of course.

Well, he definitely has one thing going for him that Washington doesn’t…

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A much better mustache?

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 30, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He coaches defense too?

Man, now if Mike would just give the hitters a few pointers ….

by Athos on Jul 30, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

All we can be sure of is that whatever the reasons for the Rangers

putting together one of their best seasons ever… Ron Washington is definitely not one of them.

Or so the thinking goes…

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I remember correctly, Ron Washington was the manager last year, too

Maybe he’s teaching something this year, that he didn’t do last year.
Or it could be the fact that we have a fucking good defensive shortstop this time, to go along with our pitch-to-contact pitching.

Alma para conquistarte, corazón para quererte, y vida para vivirla junto a ti.

by chrisR on Jul 31, 2009 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please God, don’t let Daniels trade him tonight or tomorrow. Please? Pretty, pretty, please?

"How 'bout them Rangers?" -Ron Washington

by Lone Ranger on Jul 30, 2009 9:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

From the reaction the guys were giving him

I think even if they got Doc, the clubhouse would be a little upset after that performance.

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by TxStCa on Jul 30, 2009 9:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What time is the trade deadline?

Defending Big D: A Dallas Stars blog on SBN: easy to use, free to join.

by Brandon Worley on Jul 30, 2009 9:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

3 central

mlb network airing coverage from 10 am

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Jul 30, 2009 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks.

Defending Big D: A Dallas Stars blog on SBN: easy to use, free to join.

by Brandon Worley on Jul 30, 2009 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cmon guys

Lets start a no trading for Halladay chant

NO TRADING FOR HALLADAY!!!!

by Horns130 on Jul 30, 2009 9:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

why

ill trade for halladay if we don’t put in the top 4

usa

by Longhorn on Jul 30, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Without any of the top four

we’d have to put in so many other guys we wouldn’t be able to field a team in the minors.

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think

we have to work under the perception that that is not possible

by Horns130 on Jul 30, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Madrigal and Mendoza for Halladay

Get the Canadians drunk and make the deal

by Mark from OC on Jul 30, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Derek Holland's middle name...

…is Freakin’.

"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009

by ghtd36 on Jul 30, 2009 9:33 PM CDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

WOWOWOWOWOW

is all I have to say.

by cashman on Jul 30, 2009 9:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I didn't know what a mancrush was.

Derek Holland showed me.

Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!

by DerekSTheRed on Jul 30, 2009 9:33 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

go team!

" This is the inning that propels us to the playoffs. Mark it down."
- Rohn Warshington on Jul 27, 2009 9:19 PM EDT
5th inning against the Tigers

by gossamer on Jul 30, 2009 9:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thankfully

Face signed that extension because his mancrush may very well be why Holland stays haha

by erikj07 on Jul 30, 2009 9:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

there is also a rational reason not to trade him now

and that is the fact that you have the chance at plugging him into the rotation every 5th day the rest of the year and him being so good that halladay realyl wouldn’t be enough of an improvement.

still say a feliz trade will probably be offered to toronto (hopefully minus smoak) but given that holland has shown himself to be pretty close, it just doesn’t make sense to trade for halladay (given what else you would be giving up). Actually, that is a bit of an overstatement since its one game against Seattle but you would at least start to think along those lines

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 9:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Seattle or not

this was a 22 year old against major leaguers.

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jul 31, 2009 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I couldn't watch the game live,

So I went through inning by inning on Mlb.tv. After the 4th inning, I stopped watching the Rangers batting and just skipped ahead to the top of each inning.

That was magical.

Defending Big D: A Dallas Stars blog on SBN: easy to use, free to join.

by Brandon Worley on Jul 30, 2009 9:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Followed by Madrigal

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Sacred superlative

Has there ever been a more impressive start from a Ranger rookie pitcher?

Kanye, you want to be the voice of this generation? Get in line! It goes me, Obamagirl, the Freecreditreport.com guys, then It's a tie between you-and Crocs.
-Stephen Colbert

by Conjunction on Jul 30, 2009 9:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ever heard of a kid named Clyde?

Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!

by DerekSTheRed on Jul 30, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

was gonna say

hopefully holland don’t end up like that (though he at least pitched in the minors and is a lil older)

" This is the inning that propels us to the playoffs. Mark it down."
- Rohn Warshington on Jul 27, 2009 9:19 PM EDT
5th inning against the Tigers

by gossamer on Jul 30, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point

As a 20-year old, those memories aren’t as entrenched in my memory.

Kanye, you want to be the voice of this generation? Get in line! It goes me, Obamagirl, the Freecreditreport.com guys, then It's a tie between you-and Crocs.
-Stephen Colbert

by Conjunction on Jul 30, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just goofin' but

As a 20 year old it would be impossible for those memories to exist.

by kendrick on Jul 30, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i wish i arrested

somebody for not respecting me so i could have a beer with the president

go rangers!

" This is the inning that propels us to the playoffs. Mark it down."
- Rohn Warshington on Jul 27, 2009 9:19 PM EDT
5th inning against the Tigers

by gossamer on Jul 30, 2009 9:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

used to be

speaking english was the only requirement. heck, george bush could barely do that

" This is the inning that propels us to the playoffs. Mark it down."
- Rohn Warshington on Jul 27, 2009 9:19 PM EDT
5th inning against the Tigers

by gossamer on Jul 30, 2009 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This from mlbtraderumors.com

9:27pm: Ricciardi is “not saying definitively” that Halladay will remain a Blue Jay, according to ESPN.com’s Jayson Stark. However, the GM says it’s looking more and more like Halladay will stay put.

9:23pm: ESPN.com’s Buster Olney reports that, as of an hour ago, the Jays had no active talks about Halladay. The Dodgers approached the Jays yesterday, but the two sides aren’t in the process of exchanging names.

8:38pm: MLB.com’s Jordan Bastian hears that there’s “nothing to” the reports that the Rangers are going hard after Halladay.

8:30pm: Evan Grant of D Magazine hears that talks between the Blue Jays and Rangers remain “very serious.”

Let’s hope this is true.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jul 30, 2009 9:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Weird how different the accounts of what's going on are.

Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.

by Aquaman56 on Jul 30, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not really.

That’s life around the trade deadline.

Very easy for “You know, the Rangers really should consider sending ________ to ________ for ______________..” to quickly become “We’re hearing that the Rangers are considering sending ________ to ________ for ______________…”

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heck of a change there for ya, boomer.

Welcome to the sane crowd.

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by TxStCa on Jul 30, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you

I had talked myself into trading Holland today but then he went and did that.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jul 30, 2009 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Evan

I hope his sources are pathological liars.

Kanye, you want to be the voice of this generation? Get in line! It goes me, Obamagirl, the Freecreditreport.com guys, then It's a tie between you-and Crocs.
-Stephen Colbert

by Conjunction on Jul 30, 2009 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still say it's all in his head

J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM

Hello Win Column

by lonestarJon on Jul 30, 2009 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.
8:38pm: MLB.com’s Jordan Bastian hears that there’s "nothing to" the reports that the Rangers are going hard after Halladay.

And there never has been.

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did Tommy tell ya that?

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jul 30, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

josey jr?

how exactly do you have any cred? name one thing you’ve been right about?

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well... I'm right about my source being who I've said it is.

And I was right about a sale of the team not being a thing that was coming any time soon (back when the Nolan Ryan and David McDavid and other rumors were flying)…

And I was right about the Rangers not trading for Halladay…

Not ground-breaking stuff, I realize… but stuff I didn’t waste my time thinking was pending as others here have…

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're so far

out on a limb with each of those.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jul 30, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like I said...

Could have saved some around here a whole lot of time though.

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you were right about:

-something only you can verify (I am also right that I am wearing a blue shirt)
-something that everybody already knew (I was right that Lincecum will not be traded)
-something that actually you don’t even know is right

awesome. this is where I hope you’re like 15 so you have an excuse (and I get embarrassed about arguing with a 15 year old).

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh..
something that everybody already knew

Not really. And easy to say now of course.

something that actually you don’t even know is right

Sure I do.

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if i wasn't lazy, i could show you where maybe 10 people and lots of media said the same thing about the sale

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Funny that the DMN was running articles for several days

that had everyone here talking about an impending sale…

But yeah, I’m sure you could find some links that came down weeks later…

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm pretty sure there were some mentions of david mcdavid

without any serious talks and people (front office types) immediately saying that a deal wouldn’t happen until at least the offseason.

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The no deal till off-season stuff came down

through a Ryan comment weeks later.

But whatever. Like I said, not ground-breaking stuff. The examples of that I’ve come into definitely don’t go on the internet.

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

dude

dont be THAT guy. Everyone knows someone who knows someone. Unless you have a direct line to Ryan or Daniels, you dont have a “source”. Also, it is pretty apparent that there are some rangers and FO personnel that read this board. If you were to stab your source in the back (i.e. spill the beans about something on here that hasnt reached the media) then im pretty sure instructions would come down to that “source” of yours not to divulge a thing. Just a thought…

You are obsessed with bodily wastes A turd being held under my nose, this team being a steaming pile, Jonny Donuts having a stinky diaper, the front office pissing themselves, the team crapping the bed…

I think you should seek counselling.

(AJM to Josey Donuts)

by Michael Cave on Jul 30, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agree

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Btw, fwiw...

Anyway… I’m just some dude on a message board. :-)

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well not in your head you arent

You are obsessed with bodily wastes A turd being held under my nose, this team being a steaming pile, Jonny Donuts having a stinky diaper, the front office pissing themselves, the team crapping the bed…

I think you should seek counselling.

(AJM to Josey Donuts)

by Michael Cave on Jul 30, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ummm...

Sure I am.

It’s not a big deal nor am I claiming it is. Just dropping a fwiw in the middle of the Holland trade rumor freakout stuff.

Dude on a message board. Take it or leave it.

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Free country....for now :-/

Ill talk baseball with anyone :-)

You are obsessed with bodily wastes A turd being held under my nose, this team being a steaming pile, Jonny Donuts having a stinky diaper, the front office pissing themselves, the team crapping the bed…

I think you should seek counselling.

(AJM to Josey Donuts)

by Michael Cave on Jul 30, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

Fwiw, just double checked again (hadn’t talked in a couple days) and it sounds like I was wrong…

Lot more consideration given to it than the emphatic “No” of the last couple weeks…

Definitely off the table after tonight’s performance though.

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fwiw

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

right

so you were wrong.

or more likely you have no sources.

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or maybe I know what my source is...

…and don’t really care if you don’t believe me…

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

...and am thus OK admitting that he had

softened his stance since we last spoke a few days ago.

(Sorry for the double post. Accidentally hit “Post” too soon.)

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

FWIW: Misleading a message board

and then recanting because you hadn’t spoken with your “source” in a couple days, with the trade deadline tomorrow?

That’s only one of many reasons folks here think you’re an asshole and a douchebag.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 30, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL.

Fair enough. Well put.

I hadn’t checked because the “Not considering it”s had been consistently emphatic for several weeks up until as recently as a few days ago.

And I’ve been busy getting ready for a move lately and thus not on here too much recently… and thus not prompted by any comments or rumors here to ask.

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didnt you say your source was your neighbor?

You are moving away from your source! Where will we get our insider information! Don’t go!

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't really care.

I’m just adding a FWIW in the middle of the Holland trade freakout stuff.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 30, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK.

And like I said… your point was a good one.

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because he started it with FWIW?

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

rec

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jul 30, 2009 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Odd that being told Holland isn't going anywhere and never was

has gotten you this fired up, imho.

When I asked and was told I was very relieved.

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think it is common for douches not to know why people think they are douches

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not really

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jul 30, 2009 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

cause jordan bastian knows

you’re wrong

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tommy Hicks is his good buddy

Surprised you haven’t noticed him pimp that before.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jul 30, 2009 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha

i get the feeling that tom hicks has jack say in what minor leaguers get traded.

of course, he could put the kaybash on taking back an salary and if that’s the case, I believe it. but that’s a stupid way of saying they were never interested in trading holland

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

read the full sentence

and I’m actually fairly confident about it

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh.

I never said the Blue Jays weren’t interested in trading for Holland, fwiw.

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fwiw

"I’m out there to do well, not just to serve cookies to guys..." Jason Grilli

by Section 339 on Jul 30, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kaybash

Swing and a miss.

by LiamP on Jul 30, 2009 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

help a brother out

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

evan grant actually knows the rangers and probably has an in

there are reports that holland was being scouted by toronto
there are multiple reports that holland’s name came up
there were reports that the rangers were willing to give up 2 of 4 and holland would probably have been included in one of the 4

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even his loverboy

Wash said he thought there would be a trade.

by behindthebag on Jul 30, 2009 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So he told you all his sources?

Thats nice of him.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Jul 30, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No...

…but I just know his don’t know anything about Rangers trades that mine doesn’t know.

Anyhoo… this isn’t meant to be a “my source is better than yours” thing. Michael Cave is right and I’m not trying to be that guy…

Just adding a fwiw in the middle of the Holland trade freakout stuff.

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep

Right after you finish telling everyone how smart you are and how you know all

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 30, 2009 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huh?

You have a link to that one?

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fwiw

"I’m out there to do well, not just to serve cookies to guys..." Jason Grilli

by Section 339 on Jul 30, 2009 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is to both of you

It’s “Dog”. There’s no such thing as a fucking “Dawg”.

by Black Francis on Jul 30, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

how old are you

for my piece of mind

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

*peace

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fwiw

"I’m out there to do well, not just to serve cookies to guys..." Jason Grilli

by Section 339 on Jul 30, 2009 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fwiw

"I’m out there to do well, not just to serve cookies to guys..." Jason Grilli

by Section 339 on Jul 30, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stop that

.
.
…fwiw

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

done

fwiw

"I’m out there to do well, not just to serve cookies to guys..." Jason Grilli

by Section 339 on Jul 30, 2009 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fwiw I'm out!

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jul 30, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

btw

I’m not going anywhere fwiw

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jul 30, 2009 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anybody seen that South Park episode when the Internet goes out?

Jamey Newberg is like Stan’s dad at the end of that episode.

"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009

by ghtd36 on Jul 30, 2009 9:37 PM CDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

hahahhahahhahhahahhaahhaha

that is such a perfect analogy.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 30, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice post game interview with Holland on KRLD

Asked if he was thinking about the shutout going into the 9th. Said no, just taking it one pitch at a time. Trite but whatever Nook

He sounded pretty damn poised.

Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on Jul 30, 2009 9:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This start by Derek...

shades of Brian Sikorski.

by cmkelly29 on Jul 30, 2009 9:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Still could happen....

Feliz, Davis, Tea, Beavan…

…Although, I’d imagine J.P. would require that Dutch be a part of it, and that’s where talks end.

by Topgun22 on Jul 30, 2009 9:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yup

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fine

If he hangs the phone up oh well

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jul 30, 2009 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah im sure Halladay

could be had next trade deadline for a cheaper price when a true ace may put us over the top

You are obsessed with bodily wastes A turd being held under my nose, this team being a steaming pile, Jonny Donuts having a stinky diaper, the front office pissing themselves, the team crapping the bed…

I think you should seek counselling.

(AJM to Josey Donuts)

by Michael Cave on Jul 30, 2009 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

eff what JP "requires"

Never argue with a fool. Onlookers might not be able to tell you apart.

by randyd on Jul 30, 2009 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd hate to see a trade ... hate it hate it hate it ...

but I could live with that offer … considering we’ll get 2 compensation picks in the 2011 draft when Doc fails to re-sign.

by shroomer on Jul 30, 2009 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

those nights are always nice.

Alma para conquistarte, corazón para quererte, y vida para vivirla junto a ti.

by chrisR on Jul 30, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Batting Stance Guy.

I am tired of you.

Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.

by Aquaman56 on Jul 30, 2009 9:45 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

post it on your twitter

maybe then he’ll listen to you

Alma para conquistarte, corazón para quererte, y vida para vivirla junto a ti.

by chrisR on Jul 30, 2009 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe this start....

Is the baseball Gods saying….“You need to hang on to this kid”

by death of the cool on Jul 30, 2009 9:45 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I'm watching this game again

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on Jul 30, 2009 9:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

wheeeewwwwwwweee!

how bout that derek holland!!!!?!?!??!?!!?

" This is the inning that propels us to the playoffs. Mark it down."
- Rohn Warshington on Jul 27, 2009 9:19 PM EDT
5th inning against the Tigers

by gossamer on Jul 30, 2009 9:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

mine as well

Usually after bad starts, he makes his status something that indicates he isn’t happy with himself. Can’t wait to see what it is tonight

by TigerPride on Jul 30, 2009 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah? Well, he's my Myspace friend.

I’ve even had the pleasure of exchanging a few messages with him. Very nice, polite, and loving guy.

She say she are the manager.

by rockin_rangers on Jul 30, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

MySpace?!

Holland is such a loser

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe he has a band

or is a pervert

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea, he's already got about 100 wall posts in the last thirty minutes haha.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 30, 2009 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Same here.

I left him a mushy worship comment and I don’t even GIVE A FUCK.

by Maximilian on Jul 30, 2009 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We have read reports sabout

what Toronto would like from the Rangers, have we heard what the Rangers counter offer was If they even made one.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 30, 2009 9:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

just ask Texas_Dawg

he can check his sources.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jul 30, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I bet Texas_Dawg is Miles's dad.

J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM

Hello Win Column

by lonestarJon on Jul 30, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's actually

Ron Wash’s alter ego.

by behindthebag on Jul 30, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

or his gut?

If so, I’d like to punch him so bad.

Alma para conquistarte, corazón para quererte, y vida para vivirla junto a ti.

by chrisR on Jul 30, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

source schmourses

can we continue to talk about the greatness that is Derek Holland please.

Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!

by DerekSTheRed on Jul 30, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great question.

Hmmmm… why are there no official reports on THAT?

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

just another mile marker...

…on the road to contention-land

by tangiers on Jul 30, 2009 9:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wanted to add...

I guess have been on the pro-Halladay bandwagon, but I really want to keep Smoak. I would prefer to keep the pitchers who are most MLB-ready. The thing that I don’t get is, why doesn’t Font get included? I understand that people want to keep Perez, but I feel like Font would be a good/fair addition.

No 2 out of the top 4.

Feliz + Font + Teagarden + Davis/Kiker/Beavan.

by GhettoBear04 on Jul 30, 2009 9:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Also

MY with 3 left field homeruns in a few days? Seems like he might have had 3 in entire years.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Jul 30, 2009 9:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

OT- http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/index.html

I find it funny that they have a Red Stripe on the picture.

Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.

by Aquaman56 on Jul 30, 2009 9:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

OT/oLOL

Josh Rupe with this masterful line in AAA

2.1 IP, 9 H, 12 ER, 4 BB, 2K

I’m a white boy who doesn’t think a black man is good enough to manage my baseball team. - LSJ
"I really think that" - LSJ, on being asked by AirJordan

by FirebatM3 on Jul 30, 2009 9:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

call him up

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 30, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or even Halliday!

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

or even Halladay!

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
-Rogers Hornsby

by Haeger Champ on Jul 30, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

D'oh!

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

why

is he still employed?

by txhc on Jul 30, 2009 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Solid

Kanye, you want to be the voice of this generation? Get in line! It goes me, Obamagirl, the Freecreditreport.com guys, then It's a tie between you-and Crocs.
-Stephen Colbert

by Conjunction on Jul 30, 2009 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

For anyone confused

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9lg6HqJeY0

Kanye, you want to be the voice of this generation? Get in line! It goes me, Obamagirl, the Freecreditreport.com guys, then It's a tie between you-and Crocs.
-Stephen Colbert

by Conjunction on Jul 30, 2009 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

Nobody’s ever heard of Chappelle’s Show. Thank you.

by brettgardner on Jul 30, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

its not exactly rick james

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

It’s just his gigantic face.

by brettgardner on Jul 30, 2009 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wreck that...

Bill Simmons: "I will tell you right now, if the Boston Red Sox traded Clay Buchholz for Justin Smoak, I will run around my neighborhood naked...celebrating for an hour. I love Justin Smoak"

by Smoak Some on Jul 30, 2009 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOUD

DEREK HOLLAND RELATED NOISES

Kanye, you want to be the voice of this generation? Get in line! It goes me, Obamagirl, the Freecreditreport.com guys, then It's a tie between you-and Crocs.
-Stephen Colbert

by Conjunction on Jul 30, 2009 9:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Is ODIS on your show tonight?

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jul 30, 2009 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

man I missed it

do you guys podcast that stuff? I’d love to hear it. I’m goin to see them at Glass Cactus in about a month. Thinking of checking them out at Moon Bar too.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jul 30, 2009 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We recorded it into Adobe Audition, but haven't put anything together yet.

Go see them at the Moon on Saturday. If you’re the first person to tell them Dead Air Dave sent you, you get a signed CD from them for free.

by Maximilian on Jul 30, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha nice

If you get it online somehow let me know, I’d love to hear it.

I’ve already got their CD signed, but yeah I’m thinking of checking that out.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jul 30, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Their CD is good

they put on a hell of a show. First time I saw them, they opened up for Flickerstick at House of Blues. They just stole the show. We left halfway through Flickerstick’s set because we had already seen the best band that night.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jul 30, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Fan?

Is that station still doing sports talk from Joe in Crowley?

She say she are the manager.

by rockin_rangers on Jul 30, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yesterday and today

why baseball is awesome

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 10:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Seems alot of our deals are the same

I go this far for him:

Feliz, Davis, Teagarden, Font

Holland and Smoak are off limits

I am willing to change Perez for Feliz

I am also willing to exchange any combination of players at the bottom of the deal (Bevean, Kiker)

I would prefer to keep Borbon….but if they had to have him i could live with it.

by death of the cool on Jul 30, 2009 10:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

pretty sure that is everybody's trade

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with all of this except I'd

prefer to switch Perez in for Feliz rather than just be willing to change.

I’d much rather keep the guys closer to the majors.

Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball

by willamos2 on Jul 30, 2009 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

offer Neftali Perez and see if they'll bite

Alma para conquistarte, corazón para quererte, y vida para vivirla junto a ti.

by chrisR on Jul 30, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So...

is Derek still a better fit in the ’pen for the rest of the year?

Damn did he look good tonight. So sorry Toronto.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jul 30, 2009 10:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

A starting pitcher

who can strikeout batters. I wish I had thought of that.

"A good start would be not giving up 900 runs again." -Jon Daniels

by Randy Richardson on Jul 30, 2009 10:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dear Rangers Fans Calling Me a Bust

Tell me, how does my A** taste now?

Signed,

Derek “Freakin” Holland

Bill Simmons: "I will tell you right now, if the Boston Red Sox traded Clay Buchholz for Justin Smoak, I will run around my neighborhood naked...celebrating for an hour. I love Justin Smoak"

by Smoak Some on Jul 30, 2009 10:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Update from Bob Nightengale (who?)
Nolan Ryan just said they actively are seeking Toronto Roy Halladay, but suggested that LHP Derek Holland won’t be part of any deal.

“It’s still premature to make a prediction whether it will happen,‘’ Ryan said of a deal for Holladay. "Obviously., we’d like to have him.

Hope to God this doesn’t mean they’ll compensate with Feliz+Smoak+more.

by LiamP on Jul 30, 2009 10:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Btw...

Not sure if you saw my Q earlier… or maybe I just missed your response…

…but what makes you so sure Jones won’t be around next year? (Not saying that you’re wrong, fwiw…)

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nothing really.

I don’t think I ever said that so strongly, I just operate under the presumption free agents will leave.

But I think AJ will probably be able to get someone to tell him they will start him next year… I’m not sure the Rangers will do that, they might plan to give Davis/Smoak the first shot and deal with it from there.

If we have smoak in 24 hours anyway.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Jul 30, 2009 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK.

Fair enough.

And that would be my guess as well… although I’d love to have him back as our #1 right-handed DH next year.

I’d trade Davis though. Surely there’s some sucker out there that would take him.

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

credibility

maybe you an try to buy some somewhere

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Comment about Josey being the best poster here pretty much did it for me.

Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.

by Aquaman56 on Jul 30, 2009 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL.

I may be new here but I can tell what gets people fired up.

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wanting to get people "fired up"

no, you’re not a douche. that’s just endearing.

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another thing you a JW have in common.

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is that a tick you have? fwiw?

"I’m out there to do well, not just to serve cookies to guys..." Jason Grilli

by Section 339 on Jul 30, 2009 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jones probably thinks

he has re-built his value, and may want a more FT gig. He might be right…

Never argue with a fool. Onlookers might not be able to tell you apart.

by randyd on Jul 30, 2009 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My guess

is he can get a starting gig somewhere else.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 30, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It shall be interesting.

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on Jul 30, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe this convinces them to

look for a bat, or a cheaper pitching alternative(Davis)?

Never argue with a fool. Onlookers might not be able to tell you apart.

by randyd on Jul 30, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

but who gets bumped?

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't know

Would’ve said Blalock or Jones, but they are most of what “pop” they’ve had lately, along with Young. Sure would like to have a high OBP guy somewhere in the lineup

Never argue with a fool. Onlookers might not be able to tell you apart.

by randyd on Jul 30, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

referring to pitcher

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've never seen the necessity

to add a P, though Halladay would be a helluva get, to me the cost isn’t worth it. I just added that part for those who feel a SP is a necessity. We are getting a little thin, but the king’s ransom for starters is too rich for my liking.

Never argue with a fool. Onlookers might not be able to tell you apart.

by randyd on Jul 30, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Holladay"? Really?

Who is Bob Nightengale? No cred if you can’t spell the headliners name.

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

really old one

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

'nuf said

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I finally like Nolan.

J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM

Hello Win Column

by lonestarJon on Jul 30, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In other news...

Michael Young, last 7 games: 14 hits, 26 ab, OPS over 1.5

by Mark from OC on Jul 30, 2009 10:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

.911 ops overall

.899 is his career high.

MY has been fantastic in july and solid the rest of the time.. and i havn’t even noticed a screwup at 3b in weeks!

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Jul 30, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I looked on fangraphs today

He is no longer the worst defensive 3B. Thank you Chipper Jones.

by GhettoBear04 on Jul 30, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow, thats a good sign

hopefully this is a continual sign of improvement to an only below avg 3b.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 30, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well according to cal ripken (and invoked my Josey Donuts a lot)

his learning curve should be over. So from here on out this is what he is at third

You are obsessed with bodily wastes A turd being held under my nose, this team being a steaming pile, Jonny Donuts having a stinky diaper, the front office pissing themselves, the team crapping the bed…

I think you should seek counselling.

(AJM to Josey Donuts)

by Michael Cave on Jul 30, 2009 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cal Ripken also thinks...

….Baltimore is as hot as N. Texas in the summer. The last few days he’d be right.

by Black Francis on Jul 30, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just want these damn storm systems to hit hard or move out.

Enough of this thunderstorm knife-edge shit.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 30, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Josey Wales is citing it...

…you can take it to the bank.

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Michael B. Young

Has been carrying This Thing since the all star break.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jul 30, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So, he's really just been carrying Hank

Because Hank has been carrying everything else.

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hank was 2 for 4 tonight and got us off

the schneid, thank you.

I also believe that was a LH pitcher who he homered off as well.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."

by Josey Wales on Jul 30, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't realize you were lurking about

You’ve been very quiet. Letting texas_dawg take all the heat.

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, I do the only "lurking" around here

Ephesians 3:20-21...and I can only imagine

by TedFord on Jul 30, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it possible that Texas_Dawg and JW are the same person?

While Texas_Dawg was active, JW was totally quiet. And then TD gives JW props.

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Big night for Hank

Got his post-ASB line up to .226/.226/.377

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 30, 2009 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LMAO...

He still hasn’t taken a walk…

by N41D on Jul 30, 2009 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is Brandon McCarthy

throwing whiffle balls off a flat mound yet?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."

by Josey Wales on Jul 30, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

nah

too stiff of a breeze in arlington today. Tried to throw a pitch and got blown off the mound. Damn El Nino

You are obsessed with bodily wastes A turd being held under my nose, this team being a steaming pile, Jonny Donuts having a stinky diaper, the front office pissing themselves, the team crapping the bed…

I think you should seek counselling.

(AJM to Josey Donuts)

by Michael Cave on Jul 30, 2009 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL.

You’re a damn good Ranger fan, Josey Wales.

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is why you have no cred here. fwiw

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jul 30, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

there are many reasons boomer

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jul 30, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was going to take him some time to learn a new position

But his defense has vastly improved since the beginning of the year. No batter in baseball is on a hotter streak right now.

by Mark from OC on Jul 30, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

He had a pretty bad stretch in late june.. it was every other day with the “ole” plays past him into LF.

But generally yes its been trending up.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Jul 30, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I haven't seen as many bunts for singles to him recently.

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My MY theory

Last year he didn’t get his 200 hits, breaking his streak. Now that he’s not as concerned about getting 200 hits, he’s swinging with a bit harder, giving up average (potentally, but not really in this case) for power.

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could be

But if you give credence to what he said near the end of spring training, the break on each hand really hampered him, and he does go after the max number of hits he can get. The difference is that he finally did what some had been begging for for three years – got off the back end of the batter’s box, and moved a couple inches closer to the plate. Since he was beaned and had to have surgery (ear and temple) in ‘06 spring training, he’s been back and deep, and vulnerable to two areas of the strike zone where he used to hit pretty well – down and away and up and away. This year, not so much. He’s always had fence or better power, but sees his job as getting hits.
IIRC.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -

"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce

by Ed Coffin on Jul 30, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wild card?

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, the Angels don't seem to ever lose

I think Wild Card is a much stronger possiblity now than division title.

by Mark from OC on Jul 30, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looking at LOL

Jeff says this is the first time he’s seen an M’s game where every M player has a negative WPA.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 30, 2009 10:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Heee!!!

J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM

Hello Win Column

by lonestarJon on Jul 30, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Halladay deal

who does get bumped if they pick him up? Would they still bench holland?

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 10:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

really?

not hunter?

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

they have been jerking him around this year

usa

by Longhorn on Jul 30, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think there's a chance they remove him from the rotation

after tonight. Unless they blame his 118 pitches for a sore arm.

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jul 31, 2009 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

this, no one is looking it this, but the Ranger's brass have made it clear that he's walking on thin ice here

I wouldnt mind just telling him to sit in the bullpen.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 30, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What are ESPN?

"I’m out there to do well, not just to serve cookies to guys..." Jason Grilli

by Section 339 on Jul 30, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no trade please

you’re not trading holland now, and you don’t trade away a guy who hits triple digits with command. use doc money to sign sheets this offseason.

by SteveP on Jul 30, 2009 10:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

See, here’s the thing. The only scenario that can really derail this team over the next 5 years is that they give away 2 of the top 4 for Roy, sign him to a big fat extension for 20% of the team payroll, and then his arm falls off.

by mikedallas45 on Jul 30, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If 50% of our Top Four become successful big leagers were doing pretty well

The trick is to trade the other 50%.

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This

You are obsessed with bodily wastes A turd being held under my nose, this team being a steaming pile, Jonny Donuts having a stinky diaper, the front office pissing themselves, the team crapping the bed…

I think you should seek counselling.

(AJM to Josey Donuts)

by Michael Cave on Jul 30, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We should have

a guess the 2 successful and the 2 non successful ones :)

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 30, 2009 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The GMs who are considered brilliant are the ones who get it right most of the time

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I had to pick 2

I’d probably go with Smoak and then it gets tough for me between Holland and Perez. I’d probably go with Holland.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 30, 2009 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My guess is Smoak and Feliz, but I think Holland has a good chance.

I pick Feliz over Holland because I can’t think of any prospects that could throw 100+ and ended up being busts. I’m sure some of the prospect-nerds here can name a bunch. I’d love to see 3 of 4 make it.

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Capellan comes to mind

And Zumaya isn’t setting the world on fire. When he throws a pitch It’s as likely to wind up behind the ump as it is in the catcher’s mitt. Not to mention his injury problems.

Kanye, you want to be the voice of this generation? Get in line! It goes me, Obamagirl, the Freecreditreport.com guys, then It's a tie between you-and Crocs.
-Stephen Colbert

by Conjunction on Jul 30, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know who Zumaya is and he's in the majors

I’ve never heard of Capellan. So, there’s your counter example.

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think there is a good chance

that its 3 of 4. Its still a fun game to play.

As far as guys who have thrown over 100 and were never much, here’s a partial list.

Kyle Farnsworth
Joe Table
Guillermo Mota
Dustin McGowan
Jorge Julio

I’m sure there are others. Jose Mesa had some decent years, but I still think of him as a choker, so I acknowledge personal predudices with him.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 30, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

mark wohlers?

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Almost threw him in

but he had a couple good years til he lost complete control.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 30, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never heard of Table

The others all had “careers” in the majors. I think that has to be considered “not bust”. Certainly not stars, but not busts either.

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

jose mesa

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Got it.

Sometimes I’m slow.

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think if Feliz

turned into one of them, folks would be pretty disappointed.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 30, 2009 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd be much more disappointed than surprised.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 30, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

McGowan showed some good stuff before his shoulder surgery.

Could make it back, but he’s probably done.

Trade for Ian Snell.

by sprite on Jul 30, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yay for injured pitchers

…because that’s worked out real well for the Rangers and all.

by Black Francis on Jul 30, 2009 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, Nightengale fucking blows

Here’s a more complete write-up of Nolan’s comments.

The “him,” of course, is Roy Halladay. Rangers president Nolan Ryan talked about it just after the Rangers’ 7-1 win over Toronto on Thursday.

“Obviously, we’d like to have him, but there are players who are a big part of our future that we’d like to retain,” Ryan said. “We have players we don’t want to part with. You have to give up somebody you don’t want to part with to get a guy like Halladay.”

Ryan said it would depend on the combination of players that were on the table and the club’s areas of depth.

“We’ve had discussions with them,” said Ryan, referring to the Toronto Blue Jays, adding that lots of names have been talked about. “It’s still premature to make a prediction as to whether it’s going to happen.”

Ryan added that he spoke with Rangers GM Jon Daniels a few times during the game and that Daniels is working the phones.

Ryan was also impressed with Derek Holland’s performance and wouldn’t say whether Holland’s performance impacted what the club might do.

That makes it sound a lot less likely that a deal is going to happen.

by LiamP on Jul 30, 2009 10:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

We beat Toronto tonight too?

by BEW on Jul 30, 2009 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes but no one else knows it yet

talk about a scoop

You are obsessed with bodily wastes A turd being held under my nose, this team being a steaming pile, Jonny Donuts having a stinky diaper, the front office pissing themselves, the team crapping the bed…

I think you should seek counselling.

(AJM to Josey Donuts)

by Michael Cave on Jul 30, 2009 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nightengale now says

Nolan Ryan said directly of Holland: "His status has not changed.’’ He has not definitely said he would in or out of any deal.

Twitter

"Let me tell you something my friend. Hope is a dangerous thing. Hope can drive a man insane." ---Red, The Shawshank Redeption

by drizzle on Jul 30, 2009 10:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Halladay rejects Texas

see Fanpost

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 30, 2009 10:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

HHAAHAHAHAA

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on Jul 30, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha yeah, that's not KLAW

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jul 30, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

jokes on me

hides face in hands

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 30, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+10000000

La naiba cu Monkey Rally !!!!!

by Captain Fubar on Jul 30, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So damn stupid...

Put this crap on the Versus Network…

by N41D on Jul 30, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is this true?

Law Twitter:

Halladay decline trade, thought it over but won’t go to Arlington.
about 2 hours ago from web
Halladay told his agent that he is going to think it over, he doesn’t like the idea of playing in Arlington, but likes the Rangers
about 3 hours ago from web
Halladay is seriously considering the trade, the deal is done and awaiting his approval.
about 3 hours ago from web
Halladay Traded to Rangers for Huner, Holland, Ramirez, Main, waiting for Halladay’s aproval.
about 3 hours ago from web

by cstorm15 on Jul 30, 2009 10:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

dude

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jul 30, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just got home from the game

Sorry if this has been discussed…

by cstorm15 on Jul 30, 2009 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

see

I am not the only one.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 30, 2009 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i like how we traded 4 pitchers

and toronto wants a catcher and ss

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you are just guessing?

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nobody outside of this group

knows who Neil Ramirez is.

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm

I hadn’t considered that it might be an inside job.

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It wasn't me

But you can guess who it might have been

by Mark from OC on Jul 30, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think we've discovered Texas_Dawg's source!

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly!

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is him, Keith Law is like one of my best friends.

He would never lie or allow someone to act as him, when they’re not him cause that would be wrong.

FWIW

"I’m out there to do well, not just to serve cookies to guys..." Jason Grilli

by Section 339 on Jul 30, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I threw in the random comma for shits.

FWIW

"I’m out there to do well, not just to serve cookies to guys..." Jason Grilli

by Section 339 on Jul 30, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is Keith Law's real twitter page

http://twitter.com/keithlaw

That one is a fake….

Bill Simmons: "I will tell you right now, if the Boston Red Sox traded Clay Buchholz for Justin Smoak, I will run around my neighborhood naked...celebrating for an hour. I love Justin Smoak"

by Smoak Some on Jul 30, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 - 7 give 404 errors

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Between wanting to listen to radio talk on Holland's start

and the trade deadline…
i’m not projecting high productivity tomorrow.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Jul 30, 2009 10:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Rangers have a sub .500 record on the road (one game under)

The Angels have 3 less games on the Road than the Rangers left. The red sox have 4 less games on the road than the Rangers. The rays have 9 less on the road left.

We need to win win win at home while we can!

Go Rangers! (And don’t trade Derek!)

by jam0152 on Jul 30, 2009 10:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

bad night

to be an OKC pitcher, 18-4 Isotopes, bottom of the 5th

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 30, 2009 10:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

holland dealt

didn’t just try to throw it by everyone. mixed it up. i didn’t see anything over 92 on the tv gun.

by SteveP on Jul 30, 2009 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

dealt?

poor choice of words?

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rupe gave up 12 of them

He is just filling a spot on a minor league roster now. What a fast fall he had, from the most over used pitcher in baseball last year to almost out of the minors this year

by Mark from OC on Jul 30, 2009 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kiker

I wouldn’t mind seeing kasey get the bump to OKC and take Rupes spot

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 31, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

damn

missed the game..so exactly how magical was it???

by sdson on Jul 30, 2009 10:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Impressive game by Holland

total control and just dominated Seattle

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 30, 2009 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This much

butters dance

"Let me tell you something my friend. Hope is a dangerous thing. Hope can drive a man insane." ---Red, The Shawshank Redeption

by drizzle on Jul 30, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Holland's Line

24 of first 25 retired, 10Ks

8.2 IP 2 hits 1 BB
                        

La naiba cu Monkey Rally !!!!!

by Captain Fubar on Jul 30, 2009 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OT: Modest Mouse

Their new track, The Whale Song, is the best thing they’ve done in years.

Anyone else love them?

by Maximilian on Jul 30, 2009 10:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Si...

I listened to Lonesome Crowded West on my flight home Tuesday. I enjoy that band tons.

by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 30, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just lightheartedly busting balls...

But these conversations remind me of a good episode of South Park:

by brettgardner on Jul 30, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

It's OK

I respect people’s diversions.

I basketball threadjack any time I get the chance.

by brettgardner on Jul 30, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of

George for Belinelli?

Trade for Ian Snell.

by sprite on Jul 30, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah.

I overrate Belinelli I think, but that’s pretty much a free gift to Toronto.

It makes me wonder if they’ll sell just as low on Wright, cause I’d jump all over that.

by brettgardner on Jul 30, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Won't lie

I’ve really have tried to get into them, I’ve gave them a chance, but I dunno, I’m just not that into them. A lot of my friends like them here at school, so I will listen to them off and on, but I dunno…

Weird, right?

Bill Simmons: "I will tell you right now, if the Boston Red Sox traded Clay Buchholz for Justin Smoak, I will run around my neighborhood naked...celebrating for an hour. I love Justin Smoak"

by Smoak Some on Jul 30, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hell yeah..

All this dog and pony
Still monkeys the whole time
We could not help from flinging shit
In our modern suits and ties

"I’m out there to do well, not just to serve cookies to guys..." Jason Grilli

by Section 339 on Jul 30, 2009 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm 45 seconds in

and I can already tell you.

This song fucking owns.

FIRE DAVE ANDERSON!

by Butters on Jul 30, 2009 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't tell

I have moments of love and moments of apathy…will this new song push me over the edge?

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jul 31, 2009 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably not.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 31, 2009 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just did.

and I basically sit where I used to – on the fence. But I think it’s a mood thing. Also, I’m pissed at Pandora because that’s where I heard them most and it just tried to make me pay a week ago, so I’ve been boycotting.

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jul 31, 2009 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough.

I was incredibly underwhelmed with their last 2 cds, but this is fantastic, IMO.

by Maximilian on Jul 31, 2009 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've also been stuck on Kings of Leon for about 2 months now...

and a steady diet of The National, Arcade Fire and Band of Horses

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jul 31, 2009 1:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw the Arcade Fire open for the Unicorns

(along with Death from Above 1979) at the Black Cat in DC about 5 years ago (?) now. Amazing show, mostly because the Arcade Fire were, well, en fuego.

Told friends incessantly that they should be keeping an ear out for the Arcade Fire. Got a lot of rolled eyes… until Funeral came out.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 31, 2009 1:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blast from the past...
Holland was the first Rangers lefty since Matt Perisho in 1999 with at least 10 strikeouts in a game.

AP recap

by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 30, 2009 10:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Am i the only one whose page randomly scrolls way up everytime a new comment

updates in?

its not even going to the comment, just randomly up. kind of annoying when reading.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Jul 30, 2009 10:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah. same

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

It happens for me from time to time.

Annoying as shit.

by brettgardner on Jul 30, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've grown to accept it.

If you’re ‘z’-ing down a page with 250 updates, and people keep commenting as you keep going down, as soon as you hit the bottom, it takes you to the newest comments that you missed

It’s kinda become useful. That’s just me.

by oc on Jul 30, 2009 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh that

I wasn’t reading carefully enough.

Yeah, I don’t mind that.

I thought he was referring to the phenomenon of the page scrolling all the way to the top whenever you z or post a comment.

by brettgardner on Jul 30, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes...

that phenomenon has happened to me before. It’s as annoying as threads with South Park images. ;-)

by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 30, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not watching

But I can only imagine the level of pukeworthiness.

by brettgardner on Jul 30, 2009 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

80-90 percent of baseball did it

good, great, grand, get over it. More stringent testing and lets enjoy the drop in HR totals and the “odd” drop off of popular power hitters

You are obsessed with bodily wastes A turd being held under my nose, this team being a steaming pile, Jonny Donuts having a stinky diaper, the front office pissing themselves, the team crapping the bed…

I think you should seek counselling.

(AJM to Josey Donuts)

by Michael Cave on Jul 30, 2009 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh.

ESPN definitely kills things at times… but this is the same day of some pretty big news that was broken by the country’s paper of record.

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Peter Grammons died a little inside....

When he heard that the Red Soxs (and Ortiz) weren’t as clean as they were suppose to be…..

Bill Simmons: "I will tell you right now, if the Boston Red Sox traded Clay Buchholz for Justin Smoak, I will run around my neighborhood naked...celebrating for an hour. I love Justin Smoak"

by Smoak Some on Jul 30, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And also

When he had that massive aneurysm.

But the Ortiz thing too.

by brettgardner on Jul 30, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I laughed, despite myself.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 30, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

heh, heh

I know I shouldnt giggle at that, but, hey, I’m immature

by BEW on Jul 30, 2009 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I trust this source

from Jeff Wilson

General manager Jon Daniels said this when asked about Derek Holland’s availability in a possible trade with the Toronto Blue Jays after the rookie left-hander allowed two hits in 8 2/3 innings: “We didn’t have any more interest in trading him at 7 p.m. than we did at 10 p.m.”

link

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 30, 2009 10:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If a deal could be made...

without Smoak or Holland involved. I might do cartwheels and I’ve never successfully achieved a good cartwheel.

by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 30, 2009 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If its one without Smoak, Holland, Perez or Feliz

I might do naked cartwheels across the Ranger’s diamond over the weekend….

Never will happen though….

Bill Simmons: "I will tell you right now, if the Boston Red Sox traded Clay Buchholz for Justin Smoak, I will run around my neighborhood naked...celebrating for an hour. I love Justin Smoak"

by Smoak Some on Jul 30, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

while on fire.

"Anyone that isn't pro-choice never met you" ~Brian Thomas on Seth...

by ivysafety39 on Jul 31, 2009 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I did once

When my 3rd grade class took a field trip to some gymnastics center (….)

So I’ll be there to join in.

by brettgardner on Jul 30, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can do pool cartwheels

does that count?

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jul 31, 2009 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That doesn't say Holland wont be traded

It says his availability hasn’t changed based on tonight’s performance.

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

THANK YOU.

I was waiting for a lawyer or something to chime in.

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Jul 30, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Youre both wrong

it more or less states that they never wouldve traded him

at least that is how i understand his wording

by Horns130 on Jul 31, 2009 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which says nothing

except that he understands small sample sizes.

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

EG is awesome

but I can’t wait till we pass the deadline and hopefully Halladay isn’t here. His obsession with getting Halladay here sucks.

by behindthebag on Jul 30, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hrmmm...

“In addition, 1B Justin Smoak and OF Julio Borbon are believed to be part of the Rangers package.”

Well crap. Again, I only do this deal if I only lose one of the near major league ready guys. Feliz/Holland, Smoak and Borbon are all in the group I’d only want to give one up of. Not that Borbon is untouchable, just that I’d rather include someone with a higher ceiling who’s farther away.

by GhettoBear04 on Jul 30, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dont like giving up so many guys who are at AAA+

That has to push our timeline out. It kills the whole “first wave” of prospects.

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I could do it

but Ogulnick will start crying.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."

by Josey Wales on Jul 30, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Call in.

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on Jul 30, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

do it josey

After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL

by hinduplaya on Jul 30, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

CHW beat the Yankees

MLBN studio show starting in a minute or so. Do they leadoff with Big Papi?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 30, 2009 10:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Of course they do.

I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.

by DerekSTheRed on Jul 30, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with Ozzie

just release the whole list and get done with it

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 30, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Buckles said he felt the same way on the Baseball Tonight look in during Sportscenter

I agree with him. MLB should’ve destroyed those results after the 2003 season anyway

"Let me tell you something my friend. Hope is a dangerous thing. Hope can drive a man insane." ---Red, The Shawshank Redeption

by drizzle on Jul 30, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm
Sources tell Grant that the Rangers have asked the Jays to pay a significant amount of Halladay’s 2009 salary in a potential trade. Ryan confirmed that the team would need ownership approval to make a trade for Halladay.

I don’t like that they’re asking them to pay a chunk of his salary.

by brettgardner on Jul 30, 2009 10:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I know it's been said elsewhere...

…but seriously, FUCK YOU HICKS if you’re the one who screws this up for us. It’s hard enough to do these deals without getting raked over the coals, now a prospect has to be included to make up $4 million dollars in salary!?! @#$(*&%!!!!

by GhettoBear04 on Jul 30, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 30, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

???

Thanks for your contribution?

by GhettoBear04 on Jul 30, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don't like this deal anymore

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me either.

Maybe we can just get Nick Johnson now.

Or something.

by brettgardner on Jul 30, 2009 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe if we all pitch in a few bucks?

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 30, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sounds like we are no longer dealing from the position of power

its not a “here’s our offer. take it or leave it.”

they obviously know that toronto paying his salary is going to cost us and they apparently are willing to do that. completely stupid.

i still think a feliz/davis/tea/font would have gotten it done but looks like we aren’t going down that route

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds the other way around to me.

If they really want the players they want… they can throw in some extra cash for them.

I’m just glad Holland’s off the table, as I think trading for Halladay would be really stupid.

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only thing I can think of.

Is that if the Jays are going to pick up some money, the cost of the package goes up.

Either way, I sincerely hope this (or anything else really) causes the deal to break down.

by LiamP on Jul 30, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love it

run them over the coals for Halladay. Make them take a lower package than we’d like, AND pay.

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jul 31, 2009 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we can't pay him

we shouldn’t be going after him. Throwing in more prospects just so they’ll fork over some cash is stupid.

by txhc on Jul 30, 2009 11:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

agreed

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 30, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree 100%.

unless the other prospects are third or fourth tier prospects, I don’t want to see more prospects in the deal.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 30, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don't see why toronto would just give us millions of dollars for third or fourth tier prospects

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seems unlikely, doesn't it.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 30, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe we're not going after him...

…as much as the Blue Jays are going after some prospects of ours.

Which they can pay up for if they’re that interested.

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's not how these things...

work, though. Toronto doesn’t call Texas and say, “We have this really great pitcher named Roy Halladay, you heard of him? Well, we might move him and we’ve had our eye on that kid of yours, Wilmer Font, how say you to a deal?”

by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 30, 2009 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you challenging the man's sources, goET?

I hear they’re impeccable.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 30, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sigh...

Did I say anything there was from a source of mine? Time to chill out, fwiw.

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

FWIW: You really need work on your understanding of the concept, "chill out."

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 30, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not really.

You’ve just beaten that horse to death at this point.

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And you were so recently lauding me on what a good point I'd made.

Twice. Too bad you didn’t actually follow my point.

Ah, well…

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 30, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um... not sure what that has to do with anything.

You are the one that started back in about sources.

Btw… just curious… do you think I’m lying about who my source is?

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

did you say who your source was

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Again, I don't care.

I think the fact that you compared yourself to Evan Grant earlier means I’m going to mock you and your sources for a long, long time.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 30, 2009 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't ask if you cared.

Can you answer the question?

(And I didn’t “compare myself” to Evan Grant, fwiw.)

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, FWIW you did.

However indirect it might have been, your comparing the sources for your posts favorably to the sources for his reporting is a comparison to Evan Grant.

I don’t have any idea if you’re lying about being buddies with the Hicks (or the quantity or quality of Rangers information they feed you), and, once again, I don’t care.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 30, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What exactly did I backtrack on?

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 30, 2009 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

...?

…?

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 30, 2009 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My bad. Misread it.

You didn’t backtrack. You just reworded the same stupid statement.

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not the one who compared myself to Evan Grant.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 30, 2009 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't.

Just compared our sources on a specific topic.

There’s a difference, fwiw.

(You sure do respond to me a lot about this for someone who doesn’t care, fwiw… )

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 31, 2009 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You did, you really did.

Three more concepts for you to add to “chill out,” in terms of studying up:

(1) Comparison
(2) Backtrack
(3) Apathetic

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 31, 2009 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yawn...

50 posts (and counting) of not caring…

Classic.

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 31, 2009 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seems past your bedtime, TDawg.

Sweet dreams.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 31, 2009 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You ever stay up late watching

an infomercial, while working on some stuff you didn’t want to work on, but had put off too long already?

The role of the infomercial is basically what your posts are playing for me, tonight, though they’re somewhat less entertaining.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 31, 2009 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hear they are the fake Law

A reliable source on this board told me so

by Mark from OC on Jul 30, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No...

The Rangers say "We’ll give you _.’ They say No… but after looking at some things we want “_______.”

The Rangers reject that.

The Blue Jays are still very interested though so they keep pursuing it with a name or two changed… and the Rangers say “throw in $__,000,000 and we’ll think a little more about it…”

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that doesn't even make sense

but there’s no way that ends well for the rangers. if the blue jays are going to pay, they are going to want good prospects. i only make this deal if I don’t deal my good prospects. no amount of money (at least definitely not what the jays would be willing to give) would be worth giving up one of the top 4.

if there is any talk of jays taking on money, this doesn’t end well for the rangers. best we can hope for is no deal – but there’s no point to go down this road at all

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

finally Sportscenter highlights

I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.

by DerekSTheRed on Jul 30, 2009 11:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just thought I'd throw this out there:

There are 5 teams currently with better records than the Rangers. 2 in the NL, 3 in the AL.

If only we could be in the Central division….either league really.

by GhettoBear04 on Jul 30, 2009 11:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I didn't get to see the game

but are people knee-jerking the other way?

After all, this is the Mariner’s offense we’re talking about.

One of the few teams worse in the AL in offense (slanting toward OBP) than the Rangers (the other being the Royals).

Still, it’s nice that he was able to dominate a major league team.

R

by Requiem on Jul 30, 2009 11:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Your first line there was pretty important.

Rather a better offense could have snuck in a few runs against him or not, he looked much better today. Control, offspeed.. it was there.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Jul 30, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yup

it was probably the most impressive showing by a pitcher this year, visually and statistically. So, Mariner’s offense or not, it was a great start.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 30, 2009 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think most folks are suddenly convinced that Holland's a Cy Young candidate,

or even in the running for Rookie of the Year, after one great start.

It’s just really nice to see the kid show signs of what he could be.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 30, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

increases the chances that he could be servicable again

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm?

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 30, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

there's a better chance that he will be useful sooner rather than later

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah. Yeah. I was thinking longer term, but yeah.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 30, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mostly just some celebrating by young kids around here who thought Holland would be an instant

CY winner and got their feelings hurt when others pointed out that he wasn’t exactly lighting it up immediately when they screamed about various moves involving Holland.

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Talk about dead horses...

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 30, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not really.

It was pretty funny how several here were about Holland awhile back.

Funny to watch them take a victory lap now when no one ever said he wouldn’t be pretty good at some point.

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, really.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 30, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You've sort of mentioned it already.

And it didn’t bear repeating.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 30, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The question was asked.

And I answered it correctly.

by Texas_Dawg on Jul 30, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's just, like, your opinion, man.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 30, 2009 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see

I guess I tend to have a contrarian bent for initial gut reaction.

I never get too high or low. There are advantages and disadvantages to that, though.

R

by Requiem on Jul 30, 2009 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

young kids?

Where’s Z?!?!

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jul 31, 2009 7:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well...

they did have 11 hits off Halladay the night before. Just sayin’.

I know their offense isn’t great, but Holland looked so good I’m not sure it would have mattered yesterday.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jul 31, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did anyone else catch Josh

call Derek the “Dutch Oven?”

made me lol a bit

"I hope a bartender appears, with a shot and a beer everytime ya holler, cause yeah man, that's lucky"-Pat Green
"I want to be wearing the red, blue and white."-Matt Purke

by JustinH89 on Jul 30, 2009 11:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I heard the "dutch treat" line.

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by DSheppard on Jul 30, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea i heard that

it was pretty funny

also heard the dutch treat line

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by studcrackers on Jul 31, 2009 3:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know what I just remembered?

I had tickets to tonight’s game. I decided to give my tickets to my dad because I didn’t want to drive up tonight, drive back, then drive back to Dallas on Saturday.

Ugh.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 30, 2009 11:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hawaii

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on Jul 30, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Idaho

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jul 30, 2009 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Idaho Hawaii

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on Jul 30, 2009 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

his basement

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 30, 2009 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll give you the win.

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on Jul 30, 2009 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nicely done.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 30, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hughes Town

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by Ed Coffin on Jul 31, 2009 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, thanks, dude...

me and Suze enjoyed the game.

"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin

by benmor78 on Jul 31, 2009 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

QUESTION

If we trade for Halliday, would he pitch Sunday?

by miles on Jul 30, 2009 11:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

no, he pitched today.

So.. tuesday, assuming we move the rotation to suit him.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Jul 30, 2009 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs