Friday morning Rangers stuff
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 31, 2009 9:48 AM CDT
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PrintI don't even know what to say about Derek Holland's performance last night. All I can say is, look at the box score, and however good you think the stat line looks, he looked even better on the mound.
Jeff Wilson writes that last night's performance saw Holland put it all together and deliver the type of performance the Rangers have seen glimpses of so far this year.
Evan Grant says that the Jays want Holland in any Roy Halladay deal, but Nolan Ryan all but called Holland untouchable last night. The Rangers are apparently willing to deal Neftali Feliz, Justin Smoak, and Julio Borbon in a deal for Halladay, but don't want to part with Holland.
Jeff Wilson says that the Jays want Holland, Smoak, and Tommy Hunter, which would mean the Rangers would be parting with two-fifths of their starting rotation to land Halladay. Wilson says that the Rangers have also talked to the D-Backs about Jon Garland and Doug Davis, and have looked at Zach Duke and John Lannan, as well.
One has to wonder if Holland's performance yesterday dampens some of the interest in trading for a starter, since Holland is the guy who would be bumped to the bullpen to make room for a Duke or a Davis or a Lannan or a Garland.
Mike Hindman has some thoughts on Holland, saying that Holland showed last night why the Blue Jays are going to insist on getting him as part of a Halladay trade, and why the Rangers can't part with him.
Jeff (the writer) Miller also has praise for Holland, and says that Holland doesn't anticipate being traded -- he wants to be in Texas and expects to stay here.
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Willing to part with Smoak, Feliz, and Borbon?
I wouldnt make that trade. Perhaps Holland’s start last night was more important than a lot of people realize
Before the game Im sure the jays were wanting Holland but would settle for Feliz and Smoak. I bet the Rangers were thinking about pulling the trigger and including. Then he goes out and deals like that. The Rangers get a glimpse of the future and make Holland untouchable. The Jays see the same thing and refuse to part with Halladay without getting Holland.
Basically, Derek Holland’s start last night may have saved the Rangers from themselves.
You are obsessed with bodily wastes A turd being held under my nose, this team being a steaming pile, Jonny Donuts having a stinky diaper, the front office pissing themselves, the team crapping the bed…
I think you should seek counselling.
(AJM to Josey Donuts)
smoak feliz and borbon sounds terrible (for us)
and who the fuck is toronto to say no to that?
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
no shit on both accounts
I have a hard time believing the Rangers would part with that unless Toronto is kicking in cash, and I have an even harder time believing Toronto said no to that.
Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball
btw
before someone points it out, I’m pretty sure I was good with this trade yesterday.
I think what I realized is that we should be able to swap out davis for smoak and they don’t really need borbon as much as we do.
really the thing is that we can offer more than any other team without having to give up 2 of the 4 so we definitely shouldn’t over pay – even if it is because we want them to kick in cash. cash for prospects is not acceptable
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
I finally berated you enough over the last few days?
sorry, but it had to be done
iorange is my new target
Yeah, I'm kinda thinking this too.
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
TR on with Norm in 5 minutes, with the very latest trade update.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
I'll bet you a beer the "trade updates" are the same as yesterday, but worded differently...
I hate/detest/loathe the last week before trade deadline when we’re not sellers.
But I"m thrilled we’re not sellers.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
TR on with Norm
Just back, missed some of it.
“Riccardi has held to his high price tag.”
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jul 31, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Norm asked about Cliff Lee.
“All I heard was, they’ve talked to the Indians, and they weren’t trading Cliff Lee…’he’s not available, he’s not available.’”
I hope this comes up in the JD Q&A.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jul 31, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Confusing, huh?
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
On Willingham
“Word is they’re asking a lot.”
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jul 31, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Like "freakin' insane" a lot.
Still the same Nats…
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Link?
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Ah, got it.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
At this point....
I think Riccardi has so overshot on his demands for Halladay that he may not be traded, because if he is the package will not be anywhere near what he was asking for.
by death of the cool on Jul 31, 2009 9:56 AM CDT reply actions
Thank God.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
tr's update
basically calls holland the clincher for both sides. and deal looks dead.
"Anyone that isn't pro-choice never met you" ~Brian Thomas on Seth...
link fail
http://trades.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/07/rangers_bid_for_hallday_fading.html
"Anyone that isn't pro-choice never met you" ~Brian Thomas on Seth...
I don't think JP understand how this is supposed to work
I team in contention trades at most 1 player from its current roster (usually at a position of depth) and supplements it with prospects at AA or lower who have a chance to become really good if not great. Asking for 2/5ths of the starting rotation and a guy at AAA is WAYYYY too much.
I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.
There's a reason why, when you start listing GMs in order from best to worst
It takes a while before you get to J.P.’s name.
"andruw jones hits 3 HRS at LA of Anaheim last nite after hitting zero at LA of LA as Dodger in all of '08. thats nuts." SI_JonHeyman
If he remains fixated on Holland he won't
I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.
by DerekSTheRed on Jul 31, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Halladay is staying
per The Star, a Toronto newspaper.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
I think the part about there not being enough time to clear all the hurdles is bullshit of the highest order.
But I think there’s some interesting stuff in there.
It’s clear Rogers’ ownership was taken aback by the vociferously negative fan reaction surrounding any thought of a Halladay trade. They weren’t aware of the affection and respect he engendered. Once they realized the financial impact a Halladay trade might have on attendance, TV ratings and brand loyalty, the belief here is that GM J.P. Ricciardi was advised to slow down, maybe just listen to offers, make his compensation demands insanely one-sided and only then would a deal be approved.
Heh.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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by thedirkatron on Jul 31, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions
i know
this is kind of a stupid article and I hope that he gets traded to another team (or us for way less) just so this dumbass looks even more foolish.
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
Do they even understand how baseball works?
The deal just has to be agreed to in principle and sent to the commissioner before the deadline.
It’s doesn’t take 5 hours to clear all the “logistical hurdles.” These deals go down in a matter of minutes without a no-trade clause involved, and if one is involved, I’m pretty sure Halladay has a cell phone or is at the park waiting to approve/veto.
"andruw jones hits 3 HRS at LA of Anaheim last nite after hitting zero at LA of LA as Dodger in all of '08. thats nuts." SI_JonHeyman
He's just repeating what JP said last night
and all execs are lying through their teeth right now. No surprises there.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Jul 31, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions
you make it sound like they have breaking news that hes been pulled off the market heh
they are just speculating based on the same thing everyone else has.
the preceding post was a great success.
to be fair
the writer wrote the article as if it was fact.
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
After reading everything out there I think there's about a 1% chance this thing goes down.
That’s still 1% too much for me, but at least I’m feeling better now than I was a few hours ago when I woke up in a cold sweat.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
Riccardi
is like that owner in your fantasy football league who wants your top wr and rb for a bye week filler.
by icouldusesomebaseball on Jul 31, 2009 10:01 AM CDT reply actions
ha, I make more trades than anyone, not all of my initial proposal's can be winners.
Sometimes i’m just looking for a counter.
Please, please, please
go get us a batter that can get on base and punish LH pitching.
5 of the next 6 starting pitchers are LH and the RH is King Felix.
Wanna know what a Game Score of 85 is? Watch DHolland v. the M’s last night.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."
This shit is like what happened at the draft this year, only 100x more agonizing
I remember KLaw released some last minute news that we were heavy after Rey Fuentes and people (me included) went into panic mode right until the Purke pick.
My butthole won’t unclench until Feliz and Smoak remain Rangers at 3pm today.
by LiamP on Jul 31, 2009 10:04 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
This is what baseball is all about.
I absolutely love the fact that we, as RANGER fans, are sitting her fighting over whether or not to trade for a TOP 3 pitcher in all of baseball! When was the last time we ever had to make a decision like that?
Holland looked amazing last night and gave us a glimpse of what the future could and should be. But we have an AMAZING farm system and can afford to let go some of these guys. Smoak’s value will NEVER be higher than it is right now, unless he is the next Albert Pujols. But there is also a chance that he is ….say… A Gonzo (not bad, but still wouldnt be as high as his value is now). He could be Ryan Howard, pretty good player but not close to Halladay. He could also end up being Jason Giambi. Feliz is special but Halladay is one of the best 3 pitchers in the entire league. I do the deal if it is this: Feliz, Smoak, Kiker, Golsen, Teagarden.
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
Im happy
you aren’t our GM.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
No, this is what FANTASY baseball is all about...
I care a lot more about what goes on between the lines than I do listening to idle trade speculation from guys who supposedly have the inside scoop.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Heh
It’s comical sometimes to recognize the “deal orientation” when comments are posted. And the heck of it is, some pretty irrational schemes are put out there sincerely.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Jul 31, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Please say no JD...
don’t tear down a lot of what you have built in the last two years. It simply isn’t worth it. JP is trying to rape people to save his job and the fact that he may not even accept Feliz, Smoak, and Borbon is a joke. Holland and Smoak are untouchable imo, and I’m starting to really dislike the idea of Feliz not being here too.
Don’t do it JD.
JD >>>>>> JP.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Why is Smoak untouchable? Just asking
I dont think he will ever have a value higher than it is right now.
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
Because
he is likely the only 400 OBP player this team will see for the forseeable future.
We are freaking swimming in pitching prospects though.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
Like ive been saying all morning
some of the best decisions by GMs are the trades they DONT make
You are obsessed with bodily wastes A turd being held under my nose, this team being a steaming pile, Jonny Donuts having a stinky diaper, the front office pissing themselves, the team crapping the bed…
I think you should seek counselling.
(AJM to Josey Donuts)
Just a thought
Why didn’t Javier Vazquez come up in any trade rumors?
Would he cost too similar a package to Roy? Are the Braves unwilling?
Incredible line from that guy this year.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jul 31, 2009 10:07 AM CDT reply actions
The Braves aren't exactly out of it and in a position to be selling
FWIW, though, I’ve come to the conclusion through fantasy baseball that Vazquez is highly underrated. Dude is just a horse.
"andruw jones hits 3 HRS at LA of Anaheim last nite after hitting zero at LA of LA as Dodger in all of '08. thats nuts." SI_JonHeyman
I still don't believe any of this 5 hours till the deadline propoganda
But getting Halladay was always unlikely.
Still think we will almost certainly get someone, we may want to keep holland in the rotation now but there’s zero depth behind him. And of course theres still the RH bat, though Andruw heating back up slightly changes that situation.
the preceding post was a great success.
me either...
at this point JD should give his final offer for Halladay (I don’t think it is Feliz, Smoak, and Borbon…or the Jays would be idiots to not take that)
After that he should be working the phones to see what Zake Duke or Doug Davis would cost.
by death of the cool on Jul 31, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
going after another pitcher
you want to bench holland for them?
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
Good point...
If we’re out on Halliday, then I hope all calls revolve around acquiring a bat.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
No....
but we do need another starter in case of injury or complete meltdown….
DO you have faith in Padilla the rest of the way?
by death of the cool on Jul 31, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
No
I had the flu way before having the flu was cool
by TagDon'tTweet on Jul 31, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
ok
but at least in the short term, we’d have 6 healthy starters. you have to bench somebody. who would it be?
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
If we made a deal today for Doug Davis....
I would let him pitch as the longman until we needed him.
Zake Duke is a little different….I would want to see Padilla and Millwood both pitch to see how effective they are. If both are good I would look to replace Holland if he has a bad outing or 2….maybe the same with Feldman (as many in here don’t think he is that great)
by death of the cool on Jul 31, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
again
you are waiting but you want to acquire these guys today. if duke came over, how do you set the rotation going forward?
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
Go with a 6 man rotation as long as everyone is healthy
Someone gets hurt you go with a 5 man rotation
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
We are one injury away from Dustin Nippert starting games against the Angels.
I think covering that is more important than Holland staying in the rotation at this particular moment. I think 99% of people would have been fine with that 24 hours ago.
Someone will probably get injured (::cough::padilla::cough::) anyway, and we don’t know that Millwood will be able to take his next start yet.
the preceding post was a great success.
And it could just be a veteran swingman type of guy who we could put in the pen
until needed anyway.
the preceding post was a great success.
who is that?
it’s not really doug davis or jon garland. don’t think they would like the idea of going to the pen
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
would they have a choice?
and I would gladly take a spot in the pen on a contending team
by death of the cool on Jul 31, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't know.
Not one of the names that have been openly discussed lately (though again.. i said i was fine with moving holland out for one of them), but those guys tend to populate non-playoff teams so im pretty sure there is at least a possibility out there….
Maybe everyone else believes nippert would be as decent as he has been lately. I think he would personally lose us the next game he starts.
the preceding post was a great success.
I just don't think we can roll with a 6 man rotation the way you want to.
Really, an advanced Redsox type team would probably send Hunter to AAA and stick Garland in and call up Hunter when someone got hurt. But we of the more developing mindset have problems doing that.
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
Andy. Sonnanstine.
Frank Frank for Sonnanstine and Willy Aybar?
Trying to think outside the box.
I have no idea.
A package built around Chris Davis and David Murphy and some minor leaguers for Jeremy Guthrie and Luke Scott?
What about Paul Byrd off the FA wire? Is he still unsigend, healthy and in game shape?
There aren’t a lot of great options out there.
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by thedirkatron on Jul 31, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Meant to add: Feliz and Moscoso might be our best options for the rotation down the stretch, assuming they would be willing to move Fleas back to the roatation at this point in the season.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jul 31, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
sonnanstine and byrd are interesting names and do fit the mold
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
At first glance...
I thought the Sonnanstine deal would not be smart. However, the more I think about it, the more I like it. What would your plan for Aybar be? Personally, he’d be great as a backup for pretty much any INF position (okay, he’s got only two games at SS). He’s cheap; well maybe a little overpriced in 2010 if he does not get many AB’s. But then again, 2010 is an option. I wonder if the BoSox are still interested in Vizquel? Nick Green is just not cutting it anymore.
by Excel Hearts Choi on Jul 31, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd like to know what it would take to get John Lannan
He’d be a mainstay here for many years to come and would also add to this years team and not cost a lot of money.
by twinkilling on Jul 31, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
DShepp
The bat is a more pressing need (give me Nick Johnson!!) although an ace like Halladay would be nice to have but that depends on the cost.
Look at what Abreu is doing for LAA, what Manny did / is doing for the Dodgers (whose offense sucked last year) and what Bradley did for us last year.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."
by Josey Wales on Jul 31, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions
As was asked in another thread
Who gets cut if you acquire Johnson?
Is Johnsons addition over say Jones or Blalock enough to offset the loss out of the clubhouse of either of those two?
I personally don’t think so. I think the only way we bring in a guy like Johnson is if we deal Byrd which is unlikely given his stature on this team
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
This organization needs to get over players with "stature"
when said players are old and don’t get on base v. LH’s enough.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."
by Josey Wales on Jul 31, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Who do you cut to make room for Johnson?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Arent your describing Blalock to a "t"?
You are obsessed with bodily wastes A turd being held under my nose, this team being a steaming pile, Jonny Donuts having a stinky diaper, the front office pissing themselves, the team crapping the bed…
I think you should seek counselling.
(AJM to Josey Donuts)
by Michael Cave on Jul 31, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
I believe it was
a perfect description.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
The obvious person
would be Blalock, but I don’t think the trade would be worth it.
Most likely you’d dump Arias from the 25 man to make space for Johnson, and have him platoon with Blalock.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
NJohnson becomes my DH
Blalock stays at 1B and my OF is Hamilton, Cruz, Murphy/Jones
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."
by Josey Wales on Jul 31, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
I say good bye to MByrd
The plans to make Hamilton a corner OF are shelved for 2010 and Borbon comes up if needed.
That shores up my OBP problem, especially if Hamilton returns to form.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."
by Josey Wales on Jul 31, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Has to be Jones...
Right or wrong, I think the loss of Byrd would play WAY too poorly in the clubhouse.
Other than that, I like the lineup above.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
You don't think cutting one of your best hitters on the team would play poorly in the clubhouse?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I think cutting ANY hitter poses that risk...
But Jones is the “outsider” if there is one, and I like the idea of having a definitive platoon partner for Hank.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Jones
He is doing exactly what you could have hoped for when you signed him. His season line is right in line with his career numbers and he is apparantly another one of these good clubhouse guys. Unless it is a definitive upgrade (which I don’t believe Johnson is) its not gonna go over well in the room
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
You may be right...
The more I have thought about it this week, the more I am wondering if adding an impact bat is possible due to exactly that – balancing the perception with the incremental improvement. There isn’t a guy who is CLEARLY the one to be replaced, and that makes any move somewhat dicey.
My thought all along has been that we needed to add a bat, not an arm, so I’m probably a bit slow to come to this realization – there may not be any bat worth adding event though we could use the boost.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
The only obvious replacement
is VMart for SaltyTea, and its probably not worth the price. Thats about the only move I see where you replace guys who are sucking with a stud.
Your other upgrades offensively is hoping Kinsler and Hamilton stop sucking. You obviously aren’t going to replace them.
There just isn’t a lot of mileage in replacing Blalock or AJ.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
exactly
The biggest addition we could make this deadline on offense is our current guys return to their career norms.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
So, get rid of your highest OPS guy
to get a guy who is roughly equivalent?
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
It's a tough sell.. but it "fixes" the Blalock platoon problem IMO.
Plus, I expect Jones’ OBP to regress. Of course, I;ve been expecting it for over a month, so…
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Why do you expect that?
He is right in line with his career numbers. His batting average is a little lower than his career numbers and his slugging is a little higher than his career.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Can't put my finger on it, but I just do..
He’s an older guy who hasn’t been good in a while, and I’m just not sold that he’s "back’.
Like I said, I’ve been waiting for it all month, so what do I know??…
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
He's only 32...
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Playing every day agrees with Blalock (and the chemistry in the room)
and for the month of July, his OBP is very much in line with his career. Things magically changed the night he hit the walk-off v. LAA.
That’s something you don’t tamper with.
I’ve come around on AJones but he doesn’t need to hit clean-up.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."
by Josey Wales on Jul 31, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Blalock's OBP
Is .320 in July.
That’s below his career .330, which isn’t anything to do cartwheels over anyway.
That slight increase in OBP is really the only difference between what he’s doing now and what he did April-May.
by brettgardner on Jul 31, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
The only fix
to the Blalock platoon problem is dumping Blalock.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
Then that may have to wait until the offseason...
I don’t see them dumping him mid-season.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Exactly.
Wish I could isolate how Blalock has done v leftys in July because it would seem to be much better than the first three months of the season.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."
by Josey Wales on Jul 31, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Hank vs LHP
June: .143/.143/.429 in 7 AB’s
July: .233/.233/.600 in 30 AB’s
Season: .212/.221/.447 in 85 AB’s
That’s not really all that conclusive.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 31, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Basically
He sucks against them but when he does get ahold of one it goes a long way
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Yep
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 31, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
So he's getting better v LH pitching
the more he sees him.
There’s no reason he should be hitting higher than 7th v. LH pitching and that’s on the manager.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."
by Josey Wales on Jul 31, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
"sees him" ???
“…sees them.”
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."
by Josey Wales on Jul 31, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
If only we had a 6+ year career to look back on for more numbers
the preceding post was a great success.
Playing Blalock
versus lefties is a waste of time. You are better off playing Johnson against lefties at 1B.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
Question
I could be way off base here, but do you think JD was partially bluffing just to raise the asking price and remove teams such as the Angels and Red Sox from the picture? I’m sure JD would make the deal if they weren’t asking for so much, but it almost seems like he is just trying to drag this out to keep Halladay away from other contenders..
doubt it, i think they really want him.
And were betting on Ricciardi giving in. Doesn’t appear it will work but its not over.
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Nothing would surprise me
The deadline is rife with counterintelligence, bluffs, posturing, and various other intrigue. Love it.
"andruw jones hits 3 HRS at LA of Anaheim last nite after hitting zero at LA of LA as Dodger in all of '08. thats nuts." SI_JonHeyman
the team
i don’t they dont’ take anything bad away from a quiet trade deadline
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
So, Nick Johnson
Latest on him is the Red Sox are scouting him and the Giants are apparently interested as well.
Where the fuck are we?
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
Well
The Marlins supposedly offered Ryan Tucker to the Nats for Johnson. The Nats don’t know if they’re going to do that or not.
If we have to give more than the value of Ryan Tucker, do you still want Johnson?
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 31, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
What is the Ryan Tucker
equivalent to our system?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."
by Josey Wales on Jul 31, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't know
He’s probably somewhere between Feliz and Beavan.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 31, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
No shit
That’s like saying somewhere between a Ferrari and a Volvo.
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
that's a loooooooooooong gap
you could march Patton’s Army through it
So that'd be Kiker?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."
by Josey Wales on Jul 31, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
i'd do kiker
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
you wouldn't do kiker?
he’s filthy but you’d have to do it – especially when you have a chance at Nick the Stick.
wait…what are we talking about?
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
Not really
He’s right handed, throws much harder and is more advanced.
There really isn’t a good comp in this system.
by LiamP on Jul 31, 2009 10:21 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Font?
I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.
by DerekSTheRed on Jul 31, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
I would give up beavan for johnson
i would give up one of the lower level/high upside arms for johnson. I’m not sure we have a great comp otherwise. Maybe Beavan + Castillo or something?
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
Depends how much more value we have to give up.
Sickels has Tucker rated as a B guy. I’d probably be willing to give up a B and a C to get it done, maybe another wild card/filler player just to sweeten the pot.
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
NJohnson
is rocking something like a .420 OBP v LH’s this year.
We need him.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."
by Josey Wales on Jul 31, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Gammons reporting that Marlins are reportedly very close
to acquiring NJohnson.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."
by Josey Wales on Jul 31, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
i gaurantee we are in there
doesn’t matter if the media knows it. garko interest made sure of it.
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Garko was cheap
and the prospect price was very low; Johnson isn’t either
Garko was “well, if you’re just going to give him away, fine…”
What?
Scott Barnes by the stats (CAL stats)…9.1 K/9, 2.1 BB/9, he’s 21, he’s a lefty.
Cole twittered about how much he liked him in person… Really nice pitcher there.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jul 31, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Im pretty sure Johnson is about to be a FA
how expensive could he be.
anyone know where he stands on getting fa compensation?
the preceding post was a great success.
Would you send Borbon, Teagarden and Beavan
to the Nats for Lannan & NJohnson?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."
by Josey Wales on Jul 31, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Prolly not enough
The Nats are infamous for asking for too much.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
I'd seriously consider it (60% sure I'd bite) as long as I have a line on a backup C
I know TT hasn’t really gotten a good look, but I’m less and less sold on him every week.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
No Borbon trades.
And they don’t need him anymore anyhow with Nyjer.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jul 31, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Bacsik (on The Ticket) has connections with the Nats
and they tell him that they want the team to become much more athletic and get people like Dunn out of the OF.
An OF that featured both Morgan & Borbon would be athletic.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."
by Josey Wales on Jul 31, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
i think we could make this trade easily
just imagine if the top 4 didn’t exist…we’d still have excellent prospects that they would want. Our system is so good and so deep, it’s kind of a crutch when it comes to negotiations like this…our 1-4 is not the same as any other team’s 1-4…JP should realize that and ask for 1 of the 4 and some others or just go away…he’s the one who wanted to trade Halladay, no one went to him begging …
usa
the best way to negotiate this is to call him this morning
(or last night) and say “feliz/davis and pick some other lower tier guys from this list. call us back when you have something.”
and then wait for their call at 1:00 when nobody else can put together a better deal
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
But what if you have other trade calls working that may involve those guys...
At some point I think you have to set a soft deadline so you can move on to other plans.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
TR said Nats
asking for the moon (as in Feliz) for Willingham.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."
by Josey Wales on Jul 31, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
From earlier post
We learned from A-Rod that when you bid against yourself and offer WAY more than any other team does, there are consequences.
IMO, jd shouldn’t worry about obtaining halladay, but just making sure he has the best deal on the table.
Feliz PLUS Smoak is outbidding other teams by $50M.
with arod, there was a reason we needed to outbid other teams
we had a shitty team and we needed to convince him to come here.
no reason to outbid other teams here
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
Where's our doom and gloom outlook of the day this morning?
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
It's been a nice season, but the Rangers have no fucking chance of catching the Angels, and will not take the WC
/AJM
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
haha.. I knew I could count on Rodney.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
And don't forget, the Rangers
are ineligible to play for the Wild Card.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."
by Josey Wales on Jul 31, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
from sherman
—RIcciardi said that last night the Blue Jays received “an offer that was creative.” He would not identify the team, but said the more Toronto officials spoke on the subject the more they believed it was still short.
i wonder if creative means, someone like Kinsler being involved?
usa
We're not trading Kinsler.
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
He is probably just shooting BS
notice he doesn’t name the team…..so any team that is in the bidding knows the creative deal wasn’t them….and JP hope they raise their price.
by death of the cool on Jul 31, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
oh please no
kinsler is one of the last people that needs to be moved
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
Yep
Got him signed to an extremely lucrative contract, and people have kind of forgotten how talented he is because he’s currently jammed in Hank Blalock mode.
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
i said it in the GDT last night
and I’ll say it again. IMO that start by Holland last night was the best by a Ranger’s pitcher since Kenny Rogers perfect game almost 15 years to the date ago.
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
JP missing his window.
If he keeps Halladay, he has to pay his salary anyway. He should trade for the best package now, b/c he is only going to get less and less as time goes on. JP’s fall back position is 2 draft picks, which is an awful compensation prize.
I’m ok w/ Feliz + Smoak (or Davis) + Arias and a fringy prospect like Max Ramirez/Kiker/Poveda. I am not trading from a position where I do not have depth— CF (Borbon), MLB SP (Holland, Hunter, etc).
TR just referenced the phrase "Black Hole"
As in, “They don’t have any more black holes in the line-up”
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."
"Mr Sullivan... Commissioner Price on line one for you..... Says he'll hold"
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
I had a dream last night.....
That the trade involved both Feliz and Smoak (it wasn’t clear who else it had in it)
but we got back Halladay and Scott Downs
I still wasn’t happy
by death of the cool on Jul 31, 2009 10:29 AM CDT reply actions
interesting
so one less lefty we have to face (we were scheduled to face him right?)
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
actually
i’m kind of scared that Dr. Z will be able to do something interesting.
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
Well, trading him to Detroit, the return can't be all that great
Can it?
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
Oh, you mean the guy we hammered the other day?
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
That should be one more win vs SEA
Good news!
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
was hoping he was traded
so that we didn’t have to face him
by death of the cool on Jul 31, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
so does that mean they'll bring Snell up?
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
don't let Daniels call John Hart today!!!!!
Never argue with a fool. Onlookers might not be able to tell you apart.
hopefully he's too busy on the MLB network
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
Fixed
hopefully he’s too busy on the MLB network in the process of getting hit by a bus
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
x
hopefully he’s too busy on the MLB network in the process of getting hit by a bus becoming GM of the Mets.
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
Love the excitement about Holland
But another thing to get pumped about is 7 runs. Salty and Hamilton looked better at the plate. Especially Salty. Hamilton looks like he’s trying to swing easy, and he came up with some squared up contact.
The thing about the 7 runs I don't like....
is that they were all scored via the homerun. We need to manufacture more runs, because homeruns come and go.
however Salty looked great even when he made an out….Hambone also had a few quality swings
by death of the cool on Jul 31, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
I think you need to
accept that a large portion of the Rangers runs will come via the HR due to the low team OBP. Long innings of walks, singles and doubles that put up 3 runs are just not likely. This team is going to mostly score by 1 run and 2 run HRs.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
I know....
Its the way the team is constructed….I hope it changes next year because that is no way to win in the playoffs.
by death of the cool on Jul 31, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
The only guy in the minors
who is going to change that anytime soon is Smoak, and folks treat him like our biggest trading chip.
So if he gets dealt, get used to HR or bust for the forseeable future.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
Agreed, but imagine if we can inject a couple of high-OBP guys into the mix...
Lots more base runners on when the HRs come. Imagine if our “runs per HR” went up by just .2 – that’s a ton more runs scored.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Who are those magical
high OBP guys you envision?
There are very few guys on this team or in our minors who are above average OBP-BA guys. The only way this team has high OBPs if they are all white hot hitting 300+.
There isn’t a single player on our current roster I would put money on to have a 400+ OBP year. The only guys in the minors I see are MaxRam and Smoak, maybe.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
There are exacty 16 players in MLB rocking a .400 OBP
Why don’t you go ahead and wish me that pink pony for my birthday I’ve wanted all these years?
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
I was responding to death's comment about changing for next year.
Maybe it’s Smoak, maybe it’s Borbon, maybe it’s just Kinsler returning to last year’s form, maybe it’s not doable.
But this team needs that sort of guy, and I’m not talking about a .400 OBP guy; a leadoff guy who can rock better than a low-.300s OBP works for me.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Borbon
is not likely to be a high OBP guy.
Smoak and MaxRam are about the only High OBP guys (consistently 375+) I see in our organization. Maybe Murphy if you platoon him, but I don’t feel strongly about him, he is fairly streaky.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
Where are you going to inject these high OBP guys into?
If you replace Hank with Johnson for instance I just envision alot more guys LOB because you are taking the power out of the lineup. The only guy I see being expendable that plays everyday is Marlon Byrd but I doubt he gets traded because it would be very bad in the clubhouse.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Again, I was referring to death's comment about next year.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Washburn to Detroit per ESPN
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."
French looks like a usable guy...
We lit him up, but he looked like he had something to this untrained eye.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
He doesn't K a lot
They both seem ok, but no huge steal from what I can see.. Obviously I await the experts opinions.
the preceding post was a great success.
Jack Z did it! So it is GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Jul 31, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Well if we were I'd say a bad deal heh.
But hes legitimately pitching well right now regardless of how much LL wants to bash him for the previous 3 years.
note: well doesn’t mean 2.6 era quality.
the preceding post was a great success.
Essentially pitching in the same home park now too
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Kason Gabbard Jr.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Jul 31, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
It doesn't matter
cause Richie Sexson would still go after him. heh
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
seems like a good deal for the Tigers
by death of the cool on Jul 31, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Yep
I don’t see either of these guys on any top prospect lists. Which means I know nothing about them, but hopefully it also means they’re fairly meh.
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
did anyone notice an obvious difference...
between Holland’s delivery of his changeup and his fastball last night?
Apparently, it didn’t matter. They didn’t hit anything anyway, but it seems like it could be a problem in the future.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
contrary to the minor league reports,
the changeup is his worst pitch. the slider is a solid number two pitch and he can get the curveball over sometimes but its pretty average.
he grooved a changeup to shelton has night who almost hit it out.
Im so tempted to buy an mlb.tv account
just so i can watch the replay from last night, unfortunately i missed a large chunk of the game :(
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
You should pick up Vicente Padilla and trade him so he can promtly become a golden god like Holland.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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by thedirkatron on Jul 31, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
I cry myself to sleep every night
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
It looks like the team chemistry is coming through and it's just in time...
Which makes me kind of hoping we stay put in at the deadline. We have the pieces, they just aren’t clicking yet. Offensively that is.
The only guy I see who isn’t producing up to standards and who will probably be gone soon any way is Hank. But getting rid of him now for a Nick Johnson would not be seen well by the clubhouse. I kind of picture Hank and MY as the Biggio-Bagwell tandem and it seems Ian likes him too. We DO NOT want to upset whatever MY has going right now by getting rid of Hank!
Besides, CD will probably be getting a call up in Aug-Sept and that will help out. (hopefully Stella has her groove back) I think that will give everyone a little punch in the arm.
My last two cents would be who to get rid of in the pen for CD’s call up. In a perfect world I would just like to flat out cut Jennings. He isn’t a pen guy, and that’s all he will see with the Rangers. He just looks like he hates pitching out of the pen and will give us half assed production (see IRISP, if they aren’t his, he doesn’t care about it) So that makes him at best a mop up guy and I’d rather see one of our young arms take that on.
I had to post again today… The Rangers looked so damn good yesterday I didn’t want to jinx anything!
Redsox to acquire VMart
http://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/3055091029
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
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