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Trade Deadline Day Thread 3

The aftermath.

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YAYYYYYYYY

i can sleep at night soundly again

thank you JD

i wonder how close that deal was to being done

by Horns130 on Jul 31, 2009 3:33 PM CDT reply actions  

A bit dramatic

But i agree with where you’re coming from

by jam0152 on Jul 31, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

yup

all the galloway drones are going to be calling for jd’s head…. yet they are the same ones that say hes an errand boy and nolan is in charge

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 31, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or the reverse if he struggles.

Which I doubt will happen. please

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Jul 31, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

heh

you could make a strong case for that actually

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 31, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

i think so. Lets say Holland put up a mediocre line. I bet we would’ve shipped Holland, Smoak, and Borbon.

by erikj07 on Jul 31, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

As I was leaving the ballpark last night

that’s what I was thinking. Then I got a little freaked out later on. But I think it’s possible.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 31, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

its kind of a nostalgic thought

that was truely a beatiful game last night. It may end up being one of the single most important games in its own way in the history of the Texas Rangers… haha.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 31, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

He at least saved Brett’s blogging gig at the DMN.

by mikedallas45 on Jul 31, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

after you went to bed

Bret almost burned the place down worrying we’d trade our future away.

by shroomer on Jul 31, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was a little bit frightened.

It was borderline Dirkatronic, though no specific threats were issued, at least none regarding babies and/or the homeless.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jul 31, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha, yea, i was worried we'd wake up this morning to find Brett dead somewhere in cyber space

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 31, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Done deal.
JonathanMayoB3: OK, now done, Richard, Poreda, Adam Russell, Dexter Carter for Peavy #mlbtrades

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Jul 31, 2009 3:34 PM CDT reply actions  

nice package!

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
-Rogers Hornsby

by Haeger Champ on Jul 31, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

thats what she said

You are obsessed with bodily wastes A turd being held under my nose, this team being a steaming pile, Jonny Donuts having a stinky diaper, the front office pissing themselves, the team crapping the bed…

I think you should seek counselling.

(AJM to Josey Donuts)

by Michael Cave on Jul 31, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

heyo!

Must kill Moe. Weeeeeeeee

by Baseball North on Jul 31, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

when is peavy even going to pitch for them?

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Jul 31, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well hes signed for 3 years, its not dependant on getting back this year.

But it sounds like theres a chance he will be able to make it in time for the end of the season and playoffs if there are no big setbacks.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Jul 31, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the Padres were keeping him out even though he might be ready sooner

to avoid further injury and damaging the little value he had left.

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jul 31, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shiiiiit

Can’t remember what the previous deal was but that might be a better haul than before.

WTH?

I think Luke French has a lot of potential. TORP potential.-Dstar

by sprite on Jul 31, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

That blows

Poreda is good, but the others, bleh. Carter has some people interested this year at least.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 31, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

But we couldn't afford him anyways, right?

Isn’t the money aspect just as big a part of that as the prospects given up?

by GhettoBear04 on Jul 31, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why?

The ballpark? Cincy’s park is rather small also.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 31, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

CWS park

is just as hitter friendly as the RBiA

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Jul 31, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't know why I thought he was going to the Reds

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 31, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

what i dont get...

is why he’d waive the no trade now but not earlier

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 31, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's bored

I think Luke French has a lot of potential. TORP potential.-Dstar

by sprite on Jul 31, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yah, he cost team Dirkatrons 3 months of Peavy time with his shenanigans >:(

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jul 31, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

have i mentioned lately how much i hate you?

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 31, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jul 31, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's a lucky bastard

I was soooooo hoping that waiver spot would go to waste. Now he gets better for the stretch run and a fucking keeper.

by bdavison94 on Jul 31, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sigh...

Game over for the trade talks huh?

I think Luke French has a lot of potential. TORP potential.-Dstar

by sprite on Jul 31, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

ITs game over for those of us at the bottom

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 31, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

What should we do to dethrone this man Rentz?

I think multiple questionable trades with Troy/Nik are in order.

I think Luke French has a lot of potential. TORP potential.-Dstar

by sprite on Jul 31, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Have you seen stupid Bdavison's lineup recently?

You two need collude with me, not against.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jul 31, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yah, not like me and my juggernaut rotation headed up by... um... I dunno, Luke Hochevar? Mark Zrepzrzkizi? Sergio Mitre?

God my rotation sucks.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jul 31, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

AHEM!!!

I’m in 2nd you bastards!!!!

by bdavison94 on Jul 31, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Alright.

Let’s make a trade.

I think Luke French has a lot of potential. TORP potential.-Dstar

by sprite on Jul 31, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or maybe it opens them up further... Any interest in Peavy?

He makes a much better keeper than he does a stretch run acquisition given his current DL’d as ass shit status.

I’m perfectly happy holding on to him for a handful of starts this year, but I could be persuaded…

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jul 31, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nah.

The deal is still on the table though. If you want to do it minus the #1. I’d kill for that guy. KILL.

I think Luke French has a lot of potential. TORP potential.-Dstar

by sprite on Jul 31, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

What's the deal???

Why does no one ever want to trade with me? (sad face)

by bdavison94 on Jul 31, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

He wants MCab.

The problem is, so do I.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jul 31, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pshh. He will be a member of team Spriteman. Guaransheed.

I think Luke French has a lot of potential. TORP potential.-Dstar

by sprite on Jul 31, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

So do I!

what a coincidence!

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 31, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

You should try, but I be mighty impressed if you could/would beat Sprite's deal.

That’s a really tough one to turn down.

I’m agonizing over it as we speak…

I don’t know if it’s more than what was offering to try to pry your Tom Sizemore’s kid out of your grubby little fingers earlier this year, but it’s in the neighborhood.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Wallop! Texas Rangers shortstop Michael Young fouled the ball lofting it high into the stadium and the hand of the athletic father.

by thedirkatron on Jul 31, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Luke French has a lot of potential. TORP potential.-Dstar

by sprite on Jul 31, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

MLB.com’s Corey Brock via Twitter: Aaron Poreda’s in the deal, not sure what else. Ed Price of AOL Fanhouse has righty Adam Russell in the trade as well. Righty Dexter Carter is the third player going to San Diego, according to multiple reports.

"I can wake up out of the bed and play outfield. It's easy." --Milton Bradley

by coolaid on Jul 31, 2009 3:34 PM CDT reply actions  

dont know anyhing

about them. Is it a good haul for SD?

by erikj07 on Jul 31, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

There certaintly seems to have been a ton of trades the last few days, more than i ever remembered in the past

pretty exciting stuff. I was giddy like a school girl to see if we’d get someone, but in the end, logically, adding a small offensive piece just wasnt gonna help us that much and adding Halladay just was unrealistic with the demands Riccasshole had.

All in all, its more exciting looking forward to what we have coming up. I’ll be more excited to watch our home grown studs for years to come.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 31, 2009 3:35 PM CDT reply actions  

cahill had it right

vmart was the only guy that made a ton of sense.

after that, it was getting hallady or lee if a deal could be made on the cheap – but pretty sure once we started asking for cash we were screwed.

other than that, no good deals out there

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 31, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

yea, i actually think this year was much more of a sellers market than last year

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 31, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

the success

of the Teixeira deal just drove price too high.

The only 2 trades I might have wanted to be in were Lee/VMart, and honestly I’m not too upset we sat out.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 31, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

so

who else is excited we get to see smooth, switch hitter smoak and feliz pumping out 100 mph fastball playing for the rangers?

by rangersfan32 on Jul 31, 2009 3:35 PM CDT reply actions  

+1

But… as Padilla slowly melts away and these nagging injuries keep chipping away and our lineup continues not producing… I have to wonder what coulda been.

by jam0152 on Jul 31, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't get that excited till i see them in the big leagues

It’s not all magically going to come together next year like everyone thinks.

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on Jul 31, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right here

I have free reign for the next few days on the DMN blog and I’m going to wear people out with that message.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 31, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 31, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pretty sane message, though.

And I like how rangersfan32 put it.

Preach on, Brett…

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Jul 31, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

dmn blog

You are doing yeoman’s work over there.

"Was this really necsarry?" - cowpoke/hurler hurley

by trza on Jul 31, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

If LSJ is Baseball Jesus

you are Baseball Apostle Paul…

Spreading the word to the Gentiles.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 31, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

We agree

there arent many around here who disagree but there are a few

by Horns130 on Jul 31, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I want to see Feliz.

Whens it going to happen ><?

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Jul 31, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

hopefully next year.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 31, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Im happy that the autograph on my wall is still of a ranger player

not a bluejay

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 31, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

awesome.

and that Josh pic in your profile is pretty amazing

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jul 31, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

we gonna catch 'em

says Rohn

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 31, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 31, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

What I was saying as the thread closed.

Regardless of anything else, I’m disappointed no acceptable deals could be found. This team IS in a playoff race, and it CAN be improved. The rangers clearly agree, they tried to. Seriously, Dustin Nippert is our first line of defense for injury. If it turns out the teams were simply demanding too much, so be it but I’m still disappointed.

However, if money blocked lesser deals from being done, then I’m further annoyed by the Hicks situation, please god gift us a good owner for next season.

Now, I’ll get over it in a few days if Derek Holland maintains some momentum and shows that he might actually be able to help us this season.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Jul 31, 2009 3:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Obviously

we disagree on that fundamental idea…

that said, sorry if i offended you

by Horns130 on Jul 31, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

look

I kinda agree, but we didn’t – as a group – expect to be much more than a .500 team this year. The fact that we’re doing so well, and in the race, and we have stayed the course and won’t lose any of these prospects or the current MLB roster that is controllable and cheap for years to come is pretty awesome. If we make the playoffs, that’s a tasty treat. But we just want some water and sunlight right now for nourishment. When we’ve grown up next year, we can land Halladay or somebody else for cheaper and make that run. Or maybe we won’t even have to. Either way, I’d rather not give up the chance a Beavan or Kiker hits on with another club for a guy like Nick Johnson. I would’ve loved him here, but not for one of those guys.

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jul 31, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

So our strategy for the stretch run when we have one our best records ever after 100 games is

“hope”??

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."

by Josey Wales on Jul 31, 2009 3:37 PM CDT reply actions  

this

I had the flu way before having the flu was cool

by TagDon'tTweet on Jul 31, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's the same strategy that they had

two years ago and last week. And it’s working.

I wouldn’t have been against a move, but I have zero problem with them passing if the prices were too high. They clearly wanted to do something.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 31, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

the problem was money

and while i have a problem with that, can’t really get on JD about it. and really, hicks can’t do anything if he doesn’t have money. I can make fun of him and be mad that he sucks at life but not going to help anything. not like he has money that he’s not spending

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 31, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

We can just hope that they are in much better financial position by the winter or at least next deadline.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 31, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

refuse to respond, dont hit the damn reply button

dammit…………!!@

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 31, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just a warning Josey...

Z was as mad as I’ve ever seen him over the past 18 hours or so. He seemed to have a lot of aggression building and didn’t really have to release it…

by GhettoBear04 on Jul 31, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

5 of the next 6 games

are against LH pitching and there is no acceptable excuse not to try and fix this offense.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."

by Josey Wales on Jul 31, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

There’s still another month to do that.

"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky

by RCCook on Jul 31, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Ticket says the last offer turned down by Rangers was Halladay & $ 5 million

for Holland & Smoak.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."

by Josey Wales on Jul 31, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not bitter about not getting Halladay...

it’s the refusal to fix the offense and hope it gets better.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."

by Josey Wales on Jul 31, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

THe offense

was the much greater issue needing to be addressed

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 31, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think there was a deal out there to do that.

If Hamilton and Kinsler aren’t going to hit, I’m afraid nothing was gonna fix this thing.

You just have to pray those two figure it out and decide to stop sucking.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jul 31, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup.

Hamilton and Kinsler need to wake the fuck up and start hitting.

"I can wake up out of the bed and play outfield. It's easy." --Milton Bradley

by coolaid on Jul 31, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

NJohnson & VMartinez moved today

and either one of them would have been nice fits.

The Red Sox, one of the teams we’re chasing, addressed a team weakness and just got better today.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."

by Josey Wales on Jul 31, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Sawx paid a huge price for V-Mart, one that I don't think I'd've been comfortable with.

Plus they took on money.

The Malingerer deal… now that’s a tough one. There’s no arguing he would’ve looked nice here, and the Nats agreed to pay his shit too, apparently.

It would’ve been nice to run him out there at DH the rest of the year, but I don’t know who we would’ve cut to get him on the 25.

Cutting Jones to add Johnson is a bit counterproductive, imo.

Murphy and Byrd are going nowhere. Blalock either.

I dunno.

I do kind of wish we’d’ve been in on it, but I don’t know that I’m too torn up about it.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jul 31, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd really like

for someone to tell me how many net runs Johnson would have added. I don’t think he adds more than half a win or so. His only real value is to handle the LH bat side of the platoon instead of Hank. Taking the RH bats from Hank or Andruw just isn’t going to add up to many net runs.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 31, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

yea, i agree 100%... its pretty much a useless waste of a beavan or kiker

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 31, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree

I didnt like the deals much and im still not a huge N. Johnson fan.
I was all over vmart till i saw the price

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 31, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're JD: Marteen for V-Mart straight up.

Do you?

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jul 31, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eh...

id think about it but in the end probably not. I love me some perez.

In reality, i think JD would if the indians ate salary

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 31, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm just glad the angels didn't get him

Nobody is perfect, i am nobody, therefore, i am perfect

by 34express on Jul 31, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree the offense

did need some upgrading but i think the most prudent thing is improvement from within.

Would you have traded Kiker for Johnson?

Font, Main, and Hunter for Victor Martinez? Maybe Perez instead of those 3.

You are obsessed with bodily wastes A turd being held under my nose, this team being a steaming pile, Jonny Donuts having a stinky diaper, the front office pissing themselves, the team crapping the bed…

I think you should seek counselling.

(AJM to Josey Donuts)

by Michael Cave on Jul 31, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kiker for Johnson? Yes.

Font, Main and Kiker (not giving up Hunter) for Martinez? Hell yes.

We’d still have Holland, Feliz, Perez, Hunter, Font, Scheppers, Purkell (or whatever his freaking name is) and Beavan on the way.

You can’t break 8 or 9 young pitchers into The Show at the same time.

You’d also still have Max & Borbon.

What we’ve done is take 57-43 for granted.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."

by Josey Wales on Jul 31, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

sheesh

if youd give up that for martinez youve lost it

by Horns130 on Jul 31, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

You aren't very smart are you
Font, Main and Kiker (not giving up Hunter) for Martinez? Hell yes.

We’d still have Holland, Feliz, Perez, Hunter, Font, Scheppers, Purkell (or whatever his freaking name is) and Beavan on the way.

Arguing that we can give up Font, Main, and Kiker for a player of lesser value simply because we have other prospects doesn’t mean it is a good deal.

I am so glad you’re not a general manager. Every time you say Rangers management did something wrong, my faith in the team grows.

by cstorm15 on Jul 31, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are right

the hitters need to come in for extra cuts, look at video, and tweak their approaches.

You are obsessed with bodily wastes A turd being held under my nose, this team being a steaming pile, Jonny Donuts having a stinky diaper, the front office pissing themselves, the team crapping the bed…

I think you should seek counselling.

(AJM to Josey Donuts)

by Michael Cave on Jul 31, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

im glad you still hate JD

if you didnt it would be b/c he did something stupid

by Horns130 on Jul 31, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

DONUUUUTS!!!!!

link

"Was this really necsarry?" - cowpoke/hurler hurley

by trza on Jul 31, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hope that Kinsler and Hamilton aren't going to suck the rest of the year?

doesn’t seem like a longshot hope to me.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 31, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

As a newly converted Ranger fan in Indiana

how locked in is the rotation for the rest of this season?

by skaks on Jul 31, 2009 3:43 PM CDT reply actions  

It will be

Millwood, Padilla, Feldman, Hunter, Hollan

by erikj07 on Jul 31, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's what I was afraid of

.. having to watch Padilla on MLB package every 5th game

by skaks on Jul 31, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Padilla has had some meltdowns

but he’s also had some really gutty performances. There are nights when he is really fun to watch.

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
-Rogers Hornsby

by Haeger Champ on Jul 31, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dammit

Why does everyone act like he’s the worst pitcher on Earth? That’s clearly not the case. He, like most pitchers who don’t slot in at 1 or 2 has bad games from time to time, but he’s also capable of pitching a gem. I’m glad to have him here.

by Black Francis on Jul 31, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

with a sprinkling of

Nippert and Mathis…

What!? You thought that rotation was going to stay healthy?

by bhudson on Jul 31, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's right

Hollan don’t need no D behind him. :)

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 31, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Jul 31, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would think

the only changes would be inserting a healthy BMac if he returns or perhaps, if we fall out of contention, bringing up a young guy.

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
-Rogers Hornsby

by Haeger Champ on Jul 31, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think we

see BMac in the majors again this year

by erikj07 on Jul 31, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

not very... we have Feldman and milly for sure

Hunter seems to have earned himself at least 4 or 5 more starts. Holland will probably stick, but who knows. Paddilla is the wildcard IMO, I think the Ranger’s Brass is pretty much fed up with him. If he can prove to be effective in his start tonight and his next start, they’ll leave him in there, but it wouldnt suprise me if they found away to get him out of the rotation if he’s not good. They dont trust him at all.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 31, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

And then pick up Duchhsherherherherher

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Jul 31, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Reasons why Rangers didn't do anything

1. Money.

2. Not enough tradeable players in AAA or AA. The system needs another year to mature.

3. Few available impact players and they were too costly. Mostly due to #1.

4. Rangers in playoff hunt. Couldn’t trade important players such as Byrd & Blalock.

Feel free to add your own.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 31, 2009 3:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Smart.

I think Luke French has a lot of potential. TORP potential.-Dstar

by sprite on Jul 31, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

The blue jays suck ass

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on Jul 31, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

On Peavy

when is he supposed to be healthy again?

by Horns130 on Jul 31, 2009 3:46 PM CDT reply actions  

maybe septmeber i think

Nobody is perfect, i am nobody, therefore, i am perfect

by 34express on Jul 31, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

wild...

i just dont get this deal…

by Horns130 on Jul 31, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

..would you say anything if they made the deal this november? hes locked up man.

if he can get back in time to help this year great but its still less than crazy.

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by DShep on Jul 31, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

and he is owed a ton of money...

coming off an injury…

its a giant risk is all i think

by Horns130 on Jul 31, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

who would you rather have if healthy, peavy or halladay?

Nobody is perfect, i am nobody, therefore, i am perfect

by 34express on Jul 31, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

In the abstract? Halladay.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jul 31, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

The contract is only a big deal because of the current economic stuff

If they can afford it then they can afford it.

His injury has nothing to do with his arm and theres no reason it should derail his career in any meaningful way.

I don’t know enough about the prospects yet to say if its a particularly good or bad deal, but come on its not a big puzzle why someone would want jake peavy.

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by DShep on Jul 31, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

i can see this happening, especially coming off a long injury

but maybe not.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 31, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

I think this deal is a huge risk by Williams…

by Horns130 on Jul 31, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

him *sigh*

Nobody is perfect, i am nobody, therefore, i am perfect

by 34express on Jul 31, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fuck.....

Someone just sold me a Rangers Halladay jersey outside of my office for 120 bucks.

Fuck it, im still gonna wear it to the games.

by SaltyGoesYard on Jul 31, 2009 3:48 PM CDT reply actions  

HAHA where?

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jul 31, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just hit play on my recording of last nights game

this should help.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Jul 31, 2009 3:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Double posts are cool

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on Jul 31, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

If double posting your comments is cool, then I'm Miles Davis.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jul 31, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

If double posting your comments is cool, then I'm Miles Davis.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jul 31, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

OOH. That was the grossest thing I've ever heard in my life.

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
-Rogers Hornsby

by Haeger Champ on Jul 31, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's go!

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jul 31, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm doing it too

just watching the top half of each inning, of course.

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
-Rogers Hornsby

by Haeger Champ on Jul 31, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

A rumored list of 2003 steroid users has been released

Frank Cat
Nomar Garciaparra
Bobby Abreu
Pedro Martinez
Eric Gagne

among the names

by rangersfan32 on Jul 31, 2009 3:53 PM CDT reply actions  

and its fake btw

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Jul 31, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok fan post deleted

i wouldn’t be surprised on some of the names though

by rangersfan32 on Jul 31, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

don't

i missed the discussion, so thanks.

"Was this really necsarry?" - cowpoke/hurler hurley

by trza on Jul 31, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh

anyone listening to Steve Phillips’ stupid ass on espn news…

says that he is shocked that no one gave JP what he wanted and that he wouldve given him whatever he wanted in terms of prospects

wonder why the jackass doesnt have a job….

by Horns130 on Jul 31, 2009 3:54 PM CDT reply actions  

exactly

that’s the reason why he is working for espn

by rangersfan32 on Jul 31, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

No worse than Harold Reynolds yesterday...

he had to have Rosenthal and Hart explain to him TWICE why big leaguers weren’t being dealt for big leaguers.

by cmkelly29 on Jul 31, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

some people are so incompetent

it seems like they’d actually make an effort to understand something else besides locker room chemistry if they are going to be discussing it 24/7…. ugh.

I do like having former GMs like Hart and Duquette on the show that at least have some form of credibility in how the game actually works.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 31, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey mo vaughn?

you want a long term, HUGE contract? sure…

You are obsessed with bodily wastes A turd being held under my nose, this team being a steaming pile, Jonny Donuts having a stinky diaper, the front office pissing themselves, the team crapping the bed…

I think you should seek counselling.

(AJM to Josey Donuts)

by Michael Cave on Jul 31, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

well to be fair....

i just had it on espnnews while i was reading…i dont use it for anything other than bits of info and highlights…for that it is fine

deep thought and intellect…yeah, im gonna have to go elsewhere

by Horns130 on Jul 31, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

well

the non-waiver deadline is over

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 31, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

ha

and we said no? that’s kind of fun

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 31, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I cant wait til we have Holland/Feliz/Perez face-raping teams in a three game series

wow.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 31, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

touche sailer… toooouche

Must kill Moe. Weeeeeeeee

by Baseball North on Jul 31, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Jul 31, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

cause JP is such a good judge of character?

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 31, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

not character

potential. anyway, you know what I mean

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 31, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Feliz

I’m just worried if hes in the rotation next year that he averages under 5 innings…

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by DShep on Jul 31, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

But

you just have to step back and take a larger perspective when it comes to Feliz. You don’t judge guys based on what they’ll contribute at age 22, particularly when you are on the upswing.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 31, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure

I understand the value in rushing prospects.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 31, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dont think it would be rushing him, but whether you rush a prospect or not

its almost a given that the first 15 or 20 starts are very likely going to be pretty painful. The beatings are a part of the end result in most cases

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 31, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do you disagree that there is a significant change he struggles going deep into games

his entire career? and thats assuming no health problems.
I’m worried about it.

I don’t want to give the wrong impression, the day feliz makes his debut is my most anticipated game in years… but watching his innings/pitch counts in AAA and now the rangers not being completely clear about the bullpen move… its concerning.

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by DShep on Jul 31, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, I don't necessarily worry about that

It’s conceivable, but I think it’s selling him short.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 31, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I'll defer to you.

Hope so.

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by DShep on Jul 31, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think start out next year in the BP.

I doubt he’ll start much unless they have a plethora of injuries.

by LiamP on Jul 31, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

no, im sure it was just a matter of risk. Feliz has a ridiculously high cieling, but he could also never be a SP in the ML

I still think we have to feel the same. Im sure JP and anyone else dealing a guy like Halladay has to feel like they can get a guy who is a pretty good bet to be a near top of the rotation guy.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 31, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

you know, now that we almost lost them,

i think i love Smoak, Holland and Feliz all the more…

Yay for yummy prospects.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 31, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

On August 30

Halladay would still be owed ~$2.4M. The Rangers are tied with LAA. Do you say no to Smoak and Feliz? Smoak and Borbon? Smoak plus couple othe rprospects?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 31, 2009 4:08 PM CDT reply actions  

I know you're just talking hypotheticals

but it’s pretty hard to imagine that Texas would still be in the same sort of waivers position they’re in now and have a chance in hell of no one blocking that. Why not claim him? He’s worth next year’s salary for many teams, obviously. Take Seattle for example.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 31, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do the Aug waivers

based on record regardlees of league?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 31, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes

they cant have 2 of the big 4

by Horns130 on Jul 31, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe texas

is not comfortable with CD at 1b for future and want smoak to be their 1b..

by rangersfan32 on Jul 31, 2009 4:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Well this year was a little different.

We got the best hitter on the market in 06 for a struggling closer, mediocre outfielder with a year and a half left, bad outfielder, and meh prospect.

And got Cruz back in the same deal.
The Angels got Tex for freakin kotchman and some meh relief prospect.

Oh well, that kind of miracle was unlikely.

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by DShep on Jul 31, 2009 4:26 PM CDT reply actions  

T.R. Sullivan reporting Halladay said he'd refuse a trade to Texas

on his blog.

Apologies if I missed someone else posting this somewhere.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 31, 2009 4:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Should I be Fanshotting this?

I tend to stay away from those things.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 31, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fanpost it.

This thread has been dead for a while and i suspect people will be interested

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by DShep on Jul 31, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Done.

Thanks.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 31, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whoops. Fanshotted it, rather than posted.

Ah, well.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Jul 31, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Offense coming alive

I have a gut feeling that Kinsler, Hamilton, etc. are going to pick it up immediately and start raking…

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jul 31, 2009 4:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Salty is too, he hit the ball extremely hard three times last night

and has been hitting it hard all week. He’s the #1 guy i see having a big stretch coming up, just watch.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 31, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

hamilton

his one hit was pretty good but other than that, meh

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 31, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

?

he lined out hard to third and hit a smash to first.

You are obsessed with bodily wastes A turd being held under my nose, this team being a steaming pile, Jonny Donuts having a stinky diaper, the front office pissing themselves, the team crapping the bed…

I think you should seek counselling.

(AJM to Josey Donuts)

by Michael Cave on Jul 31, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

posted this in the wrong thread

per mlbtr

5:10pm: The Blue Jays and Rangers were talking last night when they found that Halladay wouldn’t approve a deal to the Rangers, according to MLB.com’s T.R. Sullivan. The sides weren’t close to a deal when they found out.

The Jays, like other teams the Rangers spoke with, coveted Derek Holland, Neftali Feliz, Justin Smoak and Pedro Borbon. Holland’s now in the majors and the other three rank on Jonathan Mayo’s updated list of top prospects.

i can’t believe our prospects names are so hard to get right. what’s the deal?

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Jul 31, 2009 5:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes, I just came over here to *sigh* about this.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Wallop! Texas Rangers shortstop Michael Young fouled the ball lofting it high into the stadium and the hand of the athletic father.

by thedirkatron on Jul 31, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Neftali Perez and Pedro Borbon were AA roommates

"He struck him out swinging! Hello no-hitter number seven!" - Mark Holtz

by ryan_xpress on Jul 31, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Washburn and Johnson

I wonder what equivalent deals would have been for Jarrod Washburn and Nick Johnson?

Those deals seem like the kind where we could have used the depth in our farm system to top what Seattle and Detroit got, without having deal our top guys.

by Darrell McKown on Jul 31, 2009 6:07 PM CDT reply actions  

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