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Texas Rangers' Elvis Andrus (1) steals second under the throw to Tampa Bay Rays second baseman Ben Zobrist in the fifth inning of a baseball game, Saturday, July 4, 2009, in Arlington, Texas. Texas won 12-4. (AP Photo/Matt Slocum)

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7 months ago: Texas Rangers' Elvis Andrus (1) steals second under the throw to Tampa Bay Rays second baseman Ben Zobrist in the fifth inning of a baseball game, Saturday, July 4, 2009, in Arlington, Texas. Texas won 12-4. (AP Photo/Matt Slocum)

Jeff Wilson writes that Derek Holland did a better job mixing in his offspeed pitches last night, rather than just relying on his fastball has he has in past starts.

Ron Washington thinks Kevin Millwood, Michael Young, and Ian Kinsler deserved to be named to the All Star team.

Evan Grant thinks Chris Davis should be benched so the Rangers can play Hank Blalock every day.  At this point, I can't really argue for Davis to stay in the lineup...however, I do think that it is worth noting that Blalock is already playing every day against righthanders, and playing him every day means he also faces lefties, who he has a 623 OPS against this season and a 654 OPS against over the course of his career.  So I don't think having Blalock play against lefties instead of Davis is going to do anything positive for the offense...realistically, the main impact of benching Davis is getting Andruw Jones more playing time against righthanders. 

Jim Reeves has a very positive column up about the Rangers' chances this year and going forward, and suggests that the team could land Josh Willingham for a couple of lesser prospects to help bolster the lineup.

Richard Durrett has a story up about Twitter and social networking and how teams and athletes are embracing it.

Brett Perryman looks at the various options the Rangers have for their bullpen down the stretch.

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"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Jul 5, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh

Joe Morgan and Steve Phillips tonight.

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Jul 5, 2009 10:34 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Mute the TV and crank up Eric Nadel...

When I see a solar eclipse I think "oh no, is the moon eating the sun?"

by Section 339 on Jul 5, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

but I can turn down the sound.

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Jul 5, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

joe and steve

are a better team than lewin and grieve. all they talk about is the cookie lady.

by kaiserbillwolf on Jul 5, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Joe is better than noone except

Dave Barnett.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jul 5, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

PooPoo and Peanut

"A lot of guys can hit gnats in the butt in a bullpen." - Ron Washington
"Clearly, the season is over. Fire Daniels, fire Washington, fire Maddux, burn down TBIA." - AJM

by aggierangerfan00 on Jul 5, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Josh Willingham?

He’s not a bad player, but how many OFers do people think the Rangers need?

by Tex34 on Jul 5, 2009 10:42 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Getting more time

of Andruw versus righties and getting Davis some place, say A ball, where he might get turned around, is enough reason to send Davis down. At this point its only wishful thinking to believe Davis will get it on track without a trip down to the minors.

I might even just move Hamilton to DH and use a Jones/Blalock platoon at 1B or a Jones/Blalock/Hamilton platoon at 1B/DH when Hamilton is back.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 5, 2009 10:44 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Why all the way to A ball?

He won’t see the type of pitching he needs to see to get his timing back. He’s seeing pitches alright (only Murphy sees more pitches per AB), but his timing is so out of whack that he can’t hit pitches that he knows are strikes.

by Redcaps on Jul 5, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just to get him back hitting

as soon as possible. Once he has a good week, bring him to AA. Smoak is at AAA, or I’d bring him there after he rakes at A for a week or so.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 5, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Frisco is far enough

He can be watched closely by the team there and maybe some of the better attributes of Moreland, Smith, and Whittleman (patience and contact) would rub off on him.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jul 5, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't say a thing about seeing more pitches

I’m talking about swinging at the right ones.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jul 5, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or to put it another way

pitches per plate appearance does not always equal patience to me.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jul 5, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think as far as patience and contact

to some extent, Chris is what he is. My guess is he is always going to be a high strikeout/mediocre walk guy. Hopefully they can just get him seeing the ball well enough to be a .250-.270 hitter in the majors.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 5, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They could still do a switch off of first base and DH between Smoak and Davis.

In fact, to get Davis more AB’s, I’d hit him 2nd or 3rd at AAA. I just don’t think he’d see much better than what he can get at batting practice in Class A.

by Redcaps on Jul 5, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

didn't see the game

how much of Dutch’s performance can be ascribed to Tea as opposed to Salty

by thedudeabides on Jul 5, 2009 10:58 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ESPN tonite...

gonna be a blackout game for us non-FSSW guys, right?

baseball needs to get with the times with their blackout policies…

"Anyone that isn't pro-choice never met you" ~Brian Thomas on Seth...

by ivysafety39 on Jul 5, 2009 11:00 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's not on FSSW tonight.

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Jul 5, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so

blackout for everyone in dallas metro?

"Anyone that isn't pro-choice never met you" ~Brian Thomas on Seth...

by ivysafety39 on Jul 5, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

It will be shown on ESPN.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 5, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It seems like in Houston

whenever something is scheduled for ESPN, it ends up not being seen here.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 5, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks AJ

so local weeknite ESPN games are subject to blackout rules, and sunday nite isn’t.

i was trying to figure out what i was going to do with the case in my fridge if i coudn’t watch the game tonite.

"Anyone that isn't pro-choice never met you" ~Brian Thomas on Seth...

by ivysafety39 on Jul 5, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes WTF is up with that?

nothing more disappointing than seeing the guide list the game but the screen is blank

we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"

by eclou on Jul 5, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Local TV has authority over National in the local market...

However, on Sundays, ESPN has national exclusivity, so are the only ones broadcasting and thus why we don’t have FSSW today. That’s why tonight’s we’ll be able to see on ESPN in DFW area. However any non-Sunday ESPN game, FSSW/my27 has authority and that’s why the ESPN one gets blacked out because it falls under local TV and thus local advertising revenue.

There is an exception for Sunday night summer games by the Rangers at home. Rangers are allowed to play non-national TV games on Sunday nights and broadcast the games on FSSW/my27, but those games are blacked out to everyone else in the nation on mlb.tv etc because ESPN is supposed to have exclusive national coverage.

Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.

by rangers85 on Jul 5, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

huh?

Why would you think that?

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Jul 5, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's been major progress

with watching the Padres and Yankees in the home markets on MLB.tv…hopefully the progress will continue. If I have to pay a small fee, then so be it, at least the opportunity is there to watch them.

"A lot of guys can hit gnats in the butt in a bullpen." - Ron Washington
"Clearly, the season is over. Fire Daniels, fire Washington, fire Maddux, burn down TBIA." - AJM

by aggierangerfan00 on Jul 5, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would be awesome.

Open up the season with bad timing on your swing, get hurt, come back and still have bad timing, get hurt again, start your rehab stint with bad timing, come back and completely obliterate your timing in the HR derby.

Please Josh, don’t do it!

by cmkelly29 on Jul 5, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Roddick

QUIT BEING SCARED OF GREATNESS

by SaltyGoesYard on Jul 5, 2009 11:56 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

what do you mean

he’s still in it isn’t he

by blueballlefty on Jul 5, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yah

He just always chokes up when he comes close to breaking or possibly having a chance to win

by SaltyGoesYard on Jul 5, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone else watching the All-Star selection show?

"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08

by lisa w on Jul 5, 2009 12:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Possibly 2nd greatest Wimbleton Final....

All-star selection show……

Act like a sports fan.

by SaltyGoesYard on Jul 5, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry

I’m not a sports fan in general. Baseball is pretty much it for me.

"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08

by lisa w on Jul 5, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me!!!

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)

by baseballismyboyfriend on Jul 5, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

FUCK PEDROIA!!

"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08

by lisa w on Jul 5, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dislike that dude a lot

I don’t like to say hate…but he’s definitely borderline

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)

by baseballismyboyfriend on Jul 5, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fuck Boston

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Jul 5, 2009 12:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Fabulous

An all NL East infield…..

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)

by baseballismyboyfriend on Jul 5, 2009 12:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ack

AL East

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)

by baseballismyboyfriend on Jul 5, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

At least I like Pedroia though

I hope the rest of them come down with incurable acne

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)

by baseballismyboyfriend on Jul 5, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ack...not thinking clearly today

I like Longoria…NOT Pedroia

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)

by baseballismyboyfriend on Jul 5, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

That made your above post confusing for a second

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 5, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I slept in late

I never get to do that. So my brain wasn’t awake yet.

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)

by baseballismyboyfriend on Jul 5, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also

wasn’t Ichiro like, WAY ahead through the ENTIRE voting campaign??

Talk about ballot-stuffing.

"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08

by lisa w on Jul 5, 2009 12:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i like ichiro

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What I mean is

Ichiro was WAY ahead the entire time, and suddenly Jason Bay wins it?

"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08

by lisa w on Jul 5, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Red Sox Nation

will not be denied

although I really do like Jason Bay…..I just pretend he’s not wearing a Sox uni

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)

by baseballismyboyfriend on Jul 5, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pedroia sucks. Third best 2B in the AL.

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Jul 5, 2009 12:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

After Kinsler and?

Lot of solid 2Bs in the AL.

by AL Fan on Jul 5, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kinsler and Pedroia

Two best second basemen in the A.L.

The fact that Aaron Hill has had a strong first half doesn’t mean he’s better than those two.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 5, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

why does Kinsler deserve to be an all star?

Dont get me wrong, i would much rather him get it than douchebag but he had a great april and then as pretty much sucked since?

Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!

by thad728 on Jul 5, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

because Kinsler has been the best 2nd baseman in the AL

this year and was pretty much the best last year as well

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 5, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because he's been the best in the A.L. this year?

And has been one of the best second basemen in the league the last few years?

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 5, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

can i ask what in your opinion has made IK better than Hill this season?

.256 /.333 /.500 vs. .297 /.338 /.496

SB’s seems to be the biggest difference which i’ll give ya, but otherwise…

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jul 5, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, those 2

seem to be pretty much a coin flip this year.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 5, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Except for the defense

And the SBs make a difference too

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 5, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The defense between the two

is pretty much a coin flip also. Its not like Kinsler is a gold glover and Hill is a stiff. Hills got a real nice glove also.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 5, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But Kinsler's is better at least according to UZR

If you’re talking about who is the better player this season, then Kinsler is that guy. That’s not to say Hill has been bad or is much worse than Kinsler, but he has been slightly worse.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 5, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its close enough

that it isn’t a big deal that Kinsler was slighted. Its not a complete rip off, like Hamilton getting in despite being DLed and sucking most of the season.

I really think Millwood not being in is a bigger injustice.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 5, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

For me, the best 2B in the AL not making the AS game could be the bigger joke

Millwood’s done a great job this season, but I do agree with AJM a bit in that the defense has played a huge role in success this season and there are a few guys I think who have as strong of a case as him to make the AS Game. Wakefield though is far from being one of those guys.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 5, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The best 2B made it

Zobrist was in, last I checked.

Its basicly a coin flip between Kinsler and Hill, so they got the best 2B, and one of the guys who is tied for 2nd best 2B made it.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 5, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

we've been over this one before though

The guy’s played what, a month’s worth of games at 2B?

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 5, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ughh

There’s a reason the AS game is played each year

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 5, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly...

if it was a best career game, then it’d only be played like every 5 years.

Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.

by rangers85 on Jul 5, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm thinking

I should send Pedroia some ex-lax brownies to congratulate him on his voting win.

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)

by baseballismyboyfriend on Jul 5, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

send him the pudge brownies

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah!

See the malignant dwarf. See the malignant dwarf run ……………….

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -

"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce

by Ed Coffin on Jul 5, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Happy for Mauer and Longoria

And at least Hamilton beat out Toriiiiiiiiiiiii, although I don’t know that I want him to play.

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)

by baseballismyboyfriend on Jul 5, 2009 12:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Please Hammy....

don’t do the HR Derby again :(

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)

by baseballismyboyfriend on Jul 5, 2009 12:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What?

What are you talking about?

The HR Derby is the most important thing in baseball.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 5, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Raul Ibanez

Wow. Guess he really did just need to get out of Seattle.

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)

by baseballismyboyfriend on Jul 5, 2009 12:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

or needed to get on the good stuff

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh

I don’t usually tend to assume that. He might just be in a better frame of mind now.

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)

by baseballismyboyfriend on Jul 5, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

...i dont either usually

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

probably

has more to do with playing in that park

by blueballlefty on Jul 5, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

how close was kins?

to pedroica

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 12:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That is crazy

considering Kins was ahead by 7K at last count.

"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08

by lisa w on Jul 5, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow

he made up 80000 votes?

by blueballlefty on Jul 5, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats not ballot box stuffing atg all

wow

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

pedroia was down ~7k

to winning by 73k

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so you have to think FX2 makes it...right?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 12:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ok, so Pedroia has Kins beat in AVG and OBP

But the power number difference is just insane

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)

by baseballismyboyfriend on Jul 5, 2009 12:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

dont forget defense!

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fangraphs?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

I haven’t fully explored that site…had no idea what all was on there.

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)

by baseballismyboyfriend on Jul 5, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Charlie Manuel

seems like a good ol boy

by ScratchHorn on Jul 5, 2009 12:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

federer wins again

suprise suprise

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 12:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

if anyone cares

here is a link to the OKC RedHawks vs Omaha Royals game tonight:

http://www.atdhe.net/7834/watch-omaha-royals-vs-oklahoma-city-redhawks

at 505 EST

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 12:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

the astros get 2 selection?

wow

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 12:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

please no Willingham

just give us the other Josh back

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jul 5, 2009 12:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wakefield gets in, but Millwood doesn't?

That’s stupidity.

Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.

by rangers85 on Jul 5, 2009 12:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmm, maybe still a chance

Back to naming some SPs again…

Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.

by rangers85 on Jul 5, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And no, he didn't squeak in as a late starter...

Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.

by rangers85 on Jul 5, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wakefield one of the best pitchers in the league?

4.30 era wouldn’t make him a number one on anyone’s team.

by Redcaps on Jul 5, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

dont you know

108 era+ tells the whole story!

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I saw that and merely laughed

by Horns130 on Jul 5, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No freakin Millwood!

Not cool!!!

Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!

by thad728 on Jul 5, 2009 12:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

thats ok

we get wakefield and his 108 era+ instead of millwood and his 158 era+

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A's have to have a representative somehow

Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.

by rangers85 on Jul 5, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

bailey is good

3rd highest WAR of an AL RP

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=rel&lg=all&qual=y&type=6&season=2009&month=0

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

To be an All-Star

If if werent for that dumbass rule, would he be there?

by AL Fan on Jul 5, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he should be

hes a good RP

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats understandable

but wakefield > millwood is dumb.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

With FX2's injury troubles this year....

I don’t mind him not getting picked really. But Millwood should have made it over Wakefield at least.

Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.

by rangers85 on Jul 5, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fucking a

frankie and millwood should have made it over wakefield

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No Frankie?

That’s bullshit, even with the DL stint. And Wakefield? What the hell is that, a lifetime achievement award?

"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky

by RCCook on Jul 5, 2009 12:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

evidently

ho w many angels made it?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fuck the Angels

Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.

by rangers85 on Jul 5, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Michael Young

That’s two!

"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky

by RCCook on Jul 5, 2009 12:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

YAY FACE!!!

Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!

by thad728 on Jul 5, 2009 12:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Michael Young an allstar

Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.

by rangers85 on Jul 5, 2009 12:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

obviously defense doesnt matter much

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jul 5, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no ian wtf?

Go Rangers!!! Go Sooners!!!

by mchang4 on Jul 5, 2009 12:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

he doesnt deserve it

Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!

by thad728 on Jul 5, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wtf how?

Go Rangers!!! Go Sooners!!!

by mchang4 on Jul 5, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so based on this year, does Kins deserve it over Hill?

My opinion, no. I think he is better than douchbag but not hill. they are not going to take 3 2bs, especially with Zobrist there too, who can play 2b

Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!

by thad728 on Jul 5, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

kins is better than hill

he might not have the stats to prove that but he is better. Zobrist is a piece and shouldnt be in there.

Go Rangers!!! Go Sooners!!!

by mchang4 on Jul 5, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what?

zobrist has the 2nd highest WAR in baseball.

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=6&season=2009&month=0

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

clearly he has been horrible

not worth jack shit

they should probably DFA his ass, right?

to say he doesnt deserve to be on the allstar team is the stupidest comment i have seen today

guess longoria doesnt deserve it either, right?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

umm ok sooo you're

saying kinsler doesnt deserve it?

Go Rangers!!! Go Sooners!!!

by mchang4 on Jul 5, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

compared to zobrist

no, he doesnt deserve to make the all star game.

zobrist has the highest WAR of any AL player

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the most important stat

is clearly wins for pitchers and RBI for hitters, right?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't get why people hate stats like WAR

They are usually the people that bitch that its all about wins and losses. That’s all WAR is. An accurate way to judge a player using wins.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

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-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 5, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

there isnt one reason to bitch about zobrist making the ASG

not one!

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

WAR! What is it good for? Absolutely nothing!

Players should be judged by Popups Enraging All who “C” them Every game. That would be PEACE and Kinsler would win based on that stat.

All we are saying is give PEACE a chance.

by Inkara1 on Jul 5, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nope i dont think that

Go Rangers!!! Go Sooners!!!

by mchang4 on Jul 5, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what is?

batting average, i bet you think its batting average and ERA!

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like how you

speak for me

Go Rangers!!! Go Sooners!!!

by mchang4 on Jul 5, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

then what is?

do you even know what WAR is?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no i just dont waste my time on the internet fighting.

But i guess u like doing that since you have nothing else to do but thats ok! I just post my opinion that kins deserves to be in the all star and zobrist is lucky to have the stats he has this year.

And for the WAR question i really couldnt tell u exactly what it is but i do kinda have a clue.

Go Rangers!!! Go Sooners!!!

by mchang4 on Jul 5, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so whats the arguement for

IK over zobrist?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh, yup. I only get on the interwebs to fight.

If you’d just answer the questions people have asked you, instead of getting defensive, and claiming people are “speaking for you”, then no one would be saying anything about you.

by Maximilian on Jul 5, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Serious. Fucking. Business.

"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem

by Chase Irwin on Jul 5, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It works out better that way

You don’t look quite as dumb

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 5, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

He actually has the stats to prove he's better

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 5, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The AllStar game should be about what is going on in the current year.

Now, it doesnt always hold true to that but for the most part it does. So with Hill having better stats this year, would indicate that he is having a better year than Kins this year. This isnt a vote as to who is the best player at their position, its who is having the “allstar” caliber year and Kis just istn.

And you are an idiot to think Zobrist is a piece. He has having an AMAZING year, but defensively and at the plate.

Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!

by thad728 on Jul 5, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

how do you figure?

Better avg, better obp, exact same ops, more rbi, a better ops+ (by only 1 pt but still)

It might not be much better, but

Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!

by thad728 on Jul 5, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't particularly care about RBIs

Kinsler has a .285 EQA, Hill a .287 EQA, so they are pretty much a coinflip offensively.

Kinsler has been better defensively.

And Kinsler is the better player…I’d rather see the better player make it, rather than the guy who has just had a hot few months.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 5, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you undersell hill

and IK is hitting a little over .250 is that allstar quality?

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jul 5, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kinsler has a better wOBA and better defense

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 5, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kinsler got robbed.

So did Milly.

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by lisa w on Jul 5, 2009 1:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No Kinsler, ugh...

Really disappointed in this year’s selections.

We’re a first place team, and Young and maybe Hammy are about the only 2 players. Millwood and Kinsler deserved it, FX2 as well.

Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.

by rangers85 on Jul 5, 2009 1:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

True that...

Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.

by rangers85 on Jul 5, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wakefields WAR of 1.7

puts him on the same level as AL hitters denard span, brian roberts, matt holliday, and NL hitters like juan pierre, michael bourn and close to pedroia and his 1.9 WAR (btw, nyjar morgan has a 2.2 war…)

wow.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 1:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

pitchers with a 1.7 WAR include

brad bergsen, brad penny has a 1.6, as does jarrod washburn — brian bannister has a 1.5,

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is likely the single stupidest all star selection i've ever seen...

wtf are you think Joe? You are forever banned from my presence

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 5, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He has 10 wins

I’m amazed that this many people are surprised with the selection. Wins and losses are still hilariously overvalued among baseball types. Hell, during BBTN they were debating whether or not Wakefield deserved to start the game.

by LiamP on Jul 5, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i hope he does start

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure I'll even watch the game this year

Those selections were a joke.

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)

by baseballismyboyfriend on Jul 5, 2009 1:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Same here...

They really should have a retired manager or out of work manager do the all star games so that manager’s don’t feel they have to select a bunch of their own players.

Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.

by rangers85 on Jul 5, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, it's a popularity contest.

Who really cares. Let’s sweep the damn Rays on ESPN tonight and show them up.

by Maximilian on Jul 5, 2009 1:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Kinsler in the final vote

Vote here

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by drizzle on Jul 5, 2009 1:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Because it's more snobbery by the national press against the Rangers

especially Rangers pitchers.

Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.

by rangers85 on Jul 5, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

choosing tim wakefield is horrible.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That and Pedroia just piss me off

Pedroia shouldn’t be starting the game as a 2B and Wakefield has no business in making the AS Game unless he was playing for the A’s. Millwood may not have deserved to go as one of the starters, but he sure as hell deserved it over Wakefield.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 5, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

there 5 times more bitching about Kins and his .256 BA being ROBBED when there are other comparable 2b's

then there is Milly not getting in. Thats dumb baseball fans.

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jul 5, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you actually citing BA here?

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 5, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

baseball ref

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jul 5, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I think

Milly not getting in is a bigger deal.

Kinsler got robbed by a fan vote at the same time Hamilton got in because of the fan vote. Hill versus Kinsler seems real defendable to me. Maybe if Kinsler doesn’t slump so much it becomes an outrage, but its really tough to call Hill over Kinsler an outrage.

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by DJCahill on Jul 5, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

a suspicious fan vote though

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jul 5, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fan votes

are almost by definition ridiculous, especially since MLB has added internet voting and seems to actively promote ballot stuffing.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 5, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm upset too...beyond pissed

Freaking joke. Millwood and Kinsler deserved to go. Probably more than Hamilton (even though I adore the guy, this hasn’t been his year).

I just can’t even process what I just saw.

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)

by baseballismyboyfriend on Jul 5, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if you (and i mean everyone) is going to bitch about Kins not getting

Then you should all be bitching about Tori Hunter not getting. There is NO reason, baseball wise, that Hammy should even be in the top 10, but he is bc the way the vote works. dont just talk shit about Pedroia (which i cannot stand) making it and not do the same about Hunter not making it over Hamilton. It just makes you (everyone) sound like complete Ranger homers. And i know we all are but if you are going to act one way bc its our player and a different way for someone else, its pretty stupid.

Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!

by thad728 on Jul 5, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

To some extent yeah. Young has at least put together a very solid year at the plate

But i would agree with you. You cant have your cake and eat it too.

Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!

by thad728 on Jul 5, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, we can

we are fans, so we can pick and choose who we bitch about… its kinda of what we do

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 5, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

right, but that makes you a shitty fan

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jul 5, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Way to single me out when I’m clearly not the only person complaining or talking shit about Pedroia.

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)

by baseballismyboyfriend on Jul 5, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no, i didnt singe you out.

look at the post. I said “and i mean everyone”.
i just replied to your post bc you were so pissed about it.

Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!

by thad728 on Jul 5, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Micah, your wrong, and instead of you and all the others bitching about how IK was robbed

maybe you should watch some games involving aaron hill, zobrist and others etc. and every1 saying at least we got Hammy in is dumber than bitching about IK not getting in.

Hammy hasnt contributed shit to this team this season and he’s starting. MY is an AS 2b maybe HOF 2b who is playing out of position and isnt up to par at 3b although his bat is indisputable. He’s as close to a AS as we have this season. be happy we have 2. Milly should be in, but Hammy shouldnt. we should no matter what only have 2 AS’s this season

thats what we have. get over it.

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jul 5, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't see anyone

arguing Hamilton should have made it over Hunter.

Reading comprehension is your friend.

"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08

by lisa w on Jul 5, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

they sure as shit werent bringing him up when talking about how undeserving pedroia was

context can be ur tampon

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jul 5, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great point

Because Pedroia robbed Kinsler out of the starting spot, we should be talking about how Hamilton doesn’t deserve to make the AS game.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 5, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

PEOPLE DONT START AS GAMES B/C THEY DESERVE IT

get the hell over it.

Mike Schmidt got in one year and had been retired the whole season, never played a game. he won the starting vote at 3b. Its the AS game. People get dicked over and 150 posts crying about how the .256 BA 2b got F’d out of his deserving role is dumb, when your CFer is starting and hasnt contributed dick or played regularly in months.

They screwed over the rangers!!! my ass. they gave 2 spots to 2 players and one isnt a good fielder at that position at all but gets it done and the other hasnt played regularly in months. We coulda had more, sure, but we coulda had just 1 and i wouldnt have been surprised. we coulda had 2 and they were totally different guys and i dont think we woulda gotten screwed. Did any1 really think we’d have 4 All Stars? And then cry bloody murder if we didnt?

Really?

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jul 5, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meh

I’m just amused that people care this much about the damn thing.

It’s a marketing exhibition. Nothing more, nothing less.

"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem

by Chase Irwin on Jul 5, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Schmidt is my favorite example ever

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jul 5, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BLOODY MURDER!!!!!

Yes, I am crying bloody murder.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 5, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you

I will never understand why people get so exorcised over the all star game.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jul 5, 2009 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's a difference between not bitching about Torii and saying Hamilton fully deserved it

I’m not about to go cry that Torii’s son will be made fun of because his dad didn’t make the AS game, but that doesn’t mean I think its right that Hamilton made it in either.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 5, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beats me

Of course, I’m the person who didn’t particularly care about Josh Hamilton’s HR derby performance.

I can’t get that worked up about an exhibition.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 5, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't understand the uproar.

It’s for the best that Kinsler and especially Millwood get the rest as opposed to having to deal with that nonsense.

by LiamP on Jul 5, 2009 1:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

its the choice of wakefield

and the snub of millwood thats so redic

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why?

He’s been to allstar games before so he’s not missing out on any super-cool awesome new experiences. He’s logged an assload of innings with more to come, so why would you want him to go to forgo several days of rest and have to deal with the ridiculousness that is the allstar game? I’m fucking delighted that Millwood wasn’t picked.

by LiamP on Jul 5, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope Millwood gets pissed over this...

and takes it out on the Angels.

by Ph3 on Jul 5, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

goes all vinny P on em? lol

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope he takes a page out of Padilla's book

when he’s up 14-0 in the 9th inning

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 5, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Millwood

I don’t see the big deal on passing on him. He’s been a LAIE who has benefitted from great defense and good fortune.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 5, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

has he been better than wakefield this year?

thats my arguement in favor of him

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There are lots of better pitchers than Wakefield

Maddon named Wakefield as a sort of lifetime achievement thing, a tip of the cap to a guy who has hung around forever. I wouldn’t have done it, but I’m not going to kill him for it.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 5, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats foolish

but then again is maddon, so whose THAT suprised lol

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huh?

Maddon is a pretty good manager.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 5, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

as evidenced by the world series last year?

i think not lol

one way or another its proabbly not bad

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

your baseball takes have gotten over the top bad

its almost comical. are you doing this on purpose or just throwing shit against a wall to see if it sticks?

your takes are turning BBTiA into the Einstein on Rangers Blogs and you into Carrottop

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jul 5, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

interesting tidbit from driveline mechanics

Ryan Howard, in his career, has struck out 786 times in 2374 plate appearances. That is a 33% K rate.

Albert Pujols, in 807 plate appearances when the count has reached 0-2, has struck out 191. That is a 24% K rate.

Ryan Howard is nearly 33% percent more likely to strike out given a 0-0 count than Pujols given an 0-2 count.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 1:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hill didnt make it either?

so the two best 2nd basemen did not make it? well awesome

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 5, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

who are the 2bs?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hill and Pedroia

Larry Parrish Was Da Man!

by TRFAN on Jul 5, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats good

TO is a had place to get recognition. did Lind make it?

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jul 5, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hill did make it

Players vote

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)

by baseballismyboyfriend on Jul 5, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you want to see Kins get in go to MLB.COM and vote him in

he still has a chance in the final 5 vote

Larry Parrish Was Da Man!

by TRFAN on Jul 5, 2009 1:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Text message from a friend of mine who's an Angels fan

“I can’t believe a player whose been on the DL for like a month beat out my Torii. This is why fan voting sucks!!!!”

And I can’t really disagree with her. Josh doesn’t really deserve it.

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)

by baseballismyboyfriend on Jul 5, 2009 1:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This AL all-star team is a Joe Maddon team

not an all-star team. The whole selection process is a joke.

"A lot of guys can hit gnats in the butt in a bullpen." - Ron Washington
"Clearly, the season is over. Fire Daniels, fire Washington, fire Maddux, burn down TBIA." - AJM

by aggierangerfan00 on Jul 5, 2009 1:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think I might prefer MY making it over Kins

I kind of like him having 6 all star games in a row. Although even with the slump of course defense has kins much more valuable.

Although of course ill be voting for kins many times in the final vote if it looks like he has a chance anyway.

Millwood though.. man wakefield are you kidding me.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Jul 5, 2009 1:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yea, its also nice that Mikes made it now as a SS and 3B... Sadly, i dont think he made it as a 2B

that would be cool if he had

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 5, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol my friend jsut said this about pedroia over kinsler
i need to head out and write the letter im sending to MLB and Joe Maddon. that or drink

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 5, 2009 1:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

About Holland...

Sure wish his first 15 pitches weren’t all fastballs…seems to be that the sooner he started mixing in his off-speed stuff, the better. And whose fault is this? Derek’s? The catcher? The pitching coach? Seems like he’s just doing what’s being suggested.

Ephesians 3:20-21...and I can only imagine

by TedFord on Jul 5, 2009 2:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No one obsesses about the Rangers.

But apparently, all star selections are a different matter.

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on Jul 5, 2009 3:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Josh Willingham

would he play 1B?

and as far as John Lackey goes. Price is no object. Put him with all our other SPs, and a World Series could easily land in Arlington… not just for a year. plus he’s from Abilene.

Bobby Jindal '12

by dstar442005 on Jul 5, 2009 4:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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