Hamilton back, Davis down
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 5, 2009 10:35 PM CDT
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Per T.R. Sullivan, Josh Hamilton is being activated from the disabled list, and Chris Davis is heading down to AAA.
Sort of expected.
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excellent
Smoak shouldn’t be too far behind…
usa
by Longhorn on Jul 5, 2009 10:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We'll see
Wouldn’t surprise me if Davis is back before Smoak gets called up, though.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 5, 2009 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reality? Davis couldn't hit his way out of a coal mine
by oc on Jul 5, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that easy?
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
by scoop16 on Jul 5, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Davis
There’s a chance that a different set of eyes for the Hitting Coach coupled with a lower pressure environment could help Davis get his head back on straight.
What do voluntary mean?
by JKolar on Jul 5, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I figured he would go to AA
so he could play 1b full time and be a little closer to home. I guess it will be interesting to see how playing time is divided between Smoak and Davis at OKC.
There's more to the picture than meets the eye.
by tricer on Jul 5, 2009 10:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I suspect...
…that they want him to face more veteran pitchers who mix their pitches and don’t just throw, given what he’s struggling with.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 5, 2009 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm
down to AAA though?…not sure about that
who plays 1st between him and smoak…hopefully he actually goes to frisco
by Horns130 on Jul 5, 2009 10:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I would guess Smoak at 1b and Davis at DH primarily
with them switching out some.
What do voluntary mean?
by JKolar on Jul 5, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right now probably Davis
Potential though would likely have to go to Smoak.
What do voluntary mean?
by JKolar on Jul 5, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What will Smoak do to improve?
Are the Rangers minor league instructers that much better than what he has seen in the past? I haven’t seen Smoak, so I don’t know how much a fielding difference there is between the 2, but if Smoak can do what Davis did the 2nd half of last year it will help keep the Rangers in the division race until the end.
by Mark from OC on Jul 6, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How so?
I mean, if Smoak’s got the potential to be better than Davis has, he’s going to be ONE HELL of a fielder. Davis has been pretty damn good.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 6, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This improves the team significantly.
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by Chase Irwin on Jul 5, 2009 10:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So,
Davis at 1B, Smoak at DH? Best of luck, Mr. Davis, hope to see you back soon for all the right reasons.
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by t ball on Jul 5, 2009 10:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i hope not
CD just needs to work on his offense…
tell him to focus on the bat for a while and see if he can work it out
by Horns130 on Jul 5, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess what I don't get is this
Why not option Borbon back down? I know its still not to being a big deal but one of our mid tier prospects with a chance to be something more has basically been sitting the bench since being called up and is going to continue to be there until they option him back down.
What do voluntary mean?
by JKolar on Jul 5, 2009 10:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think they want a backup to Byrd in center.
I suspect that Hamilton won’t immediately go to center.
by Redcaps on Jul 5, 2009 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're probably right.
I still don’t think it makes sense to get a young player one start in a week. And probably no other ABs barring Cruz’s injury. I know its not a big deal, unless it becomes a long term thing. Burning service time for a player who’s not really learning from it isn’t a great idea.
What do voluntary mean?
by JKolar on Jul 5, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ummm
maybe it is b/c he is hitting .200?…
sitting him on the bench also isnt going to improve him….send him down so he can hopefully get it worked out
by Horns130 on Jul 5, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Talking about Davis or Borbon there?
I wouldn’t count 5 ABs as a representative sample if your talking about Borbon.
I’m not saying Davis shouldn’t have been optioned, I’m just saying that our current use pattern for Borbon makes zero sense.
What do voluntary mean?
by JKolar on Jul 5, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we'll send Borbon down soon enough
chill, its gonna be ok
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by blalock84 on Jul 5, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly
It didn’t make any sense to bring him up if we’re just going to plant him on the bench.
And I’m not sure that giving Blalock and Jones more time at 1b isn’t taking away from our main strength this season.
What do voluntary mean?
by JKolar on Jul 5, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
have we had a late game situation
where we needed speed on the paths for a Hank or catcher?
give it time. I see one coming up against the Angels.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 6, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think Josh should DH for a while...
usa
by Longhorn on Jul 5, 2009 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
a long while
like until 2010
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jul 5, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That doesn't make any sense.
Hamilton played a nice CF this year, but he kept getting hurt because he thinks he’s Jim Edmonds. Where’s the value in that?
We’ve got three capable OF defenders in Murphy, Byrd and Cruz, and one plus CFer on the bench. I don’t see any reason not to DH Hamilton for the rest of the season.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 6, 2009 1:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How often was he hurt last year?
To me, this team and the posters constantly talk about the importance of D…to the point where many claim that defense is more important than what a guy can do at the plate….
Hamilton is a very good defender, playing hard D is part of the game, he has had bad luck this year
to me you are taking away one of his greatest strengths if you do not play him in the field in at least a good margin of the games
also, and what is never mentioned, Im willing to bet Josh doesnt want to DH
Plenty of CFs dont get hurt…i guess you should just tell every good hitting CF (hell OF’er then) to just play DH…
sorry adam Jones but its time to just focus on DH
play the fuckin game
by Horns130 on Jul 6, 2009 3:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
x
Hamilton is a very good defender
He was horrible in his only full season in CF last year, and slightly below replacement in CF and LF when he was in Cincy. His 29 games in CF this year are the first time he’s ever put up above-average defensive #’s.
As much as I hate to play this card, he is a former drug user who spent extensive time on the DL in 2007 with Cincy. He’s now been on the DL multiple times in 2 out of his 3 MLB seasons, and we’re just barely getting to halfway. I’d call that an injury risk.
Frankly, I don’t give a shit if he wants to DH or not, we’ve got four capable OF’s and Hamilton has a better chance of staying on the field for the rest of our possible playoff run as the DH.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
by lonestarJon on Jul 6, 2009 5:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can break out the drug card
when you start linking to peer-reviewed articles proving a causation between running into walls and being a drug addict. Otherwise you’re just talking out of your ass. He played a full year last year injury free so the jury is still out but there is no doubt that moving to RF would be great for him and the team.
by Goyogringo on Jul 6, 2009 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We've got Cruz in RF though.
Cruz is the best RF in baseball, according to UZR/150. The bottom line is that Hamilton isn’t that great a defender, and has an extensive injury history despite last year.
He needs to DH, at least for now as he first comes back.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"Young is the Good version of David Eckstein. Grossly overrated because of grit. He can move one step to the right, and a half step to the left whereever you put him in the field." - DJ Cahill
by lonestarJon on Jul 6, 2009 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
I think Hamilton would be a solid CF and a very good COF
with Borbon his future is at COF anyways so imo that is where he should be this year, while also playing DH at times as well
I understand the sentiment to have him play only DH, i just dont think that allows the rangers to put the best team on the field
by Horns130 on Jul 6, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 6, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because they have to fix Davis
and fixing him in the Majors doesn’t seem to be happening.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 6, 2009 5:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good luck, Chris...
Hope to see that power on proper display soon.
by bhudson on Jul 5, 2009 10:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd say they switch between first and DH.
Smoak will probably get more time at 1st because playing defense isn’t really Davis’ problem right now.
Sending him to AA wouldn’t really have done him much good. Better pitching in AAA.
by Redcaps on Jul 5, 2009 10:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
More savvy pitching
not necessarily better.
What do voluntary mean?
by JKolar on Jul 5, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This
Although I would’ve liked to see him on Frisco so he could continue to work with the big club, maybe he needs to get away from things for a while.
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by Conjunction on Jul 5, 2009 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are going to be on the West Coast this coming week
Then there’s the All Star break.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 5, 2009 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The best thing the ESPN crew said all night
was that letting CD play thru the ASG break in AAA was the smart thing to do.
by shroomer on Jul 5, 2009 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that makes a lot of sense...
no break for him, good thing
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 6, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Borbon
It seems like he needs to go back down as well.
Picking up a righthanded hitter who can platoon at 1B with Blalock, and sending Borbon down would probably both help the major league team and Borbon’s development.
by Darrell McKown on Jul 5, 2009 10:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
agreeded
A RHB defensive 1B would be nice.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jul 5, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A 1b who's likly to not be a total disaster would be nice.
What do voluntary mean?
by JKolar on Jul 5, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In other MLB transaction news
The A’s have acquired Scott Hairston for 2 minor leaguers and a PTBNL:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4307924
I guess this is the move to really jumpstart that Oakland offensive attack.
by tlt29 on Jul 5, 2009 10:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Danny Putnam's status at MiLB.com
has been “traded to Padres” for like 2 days now. Been wondering when the trade was getting announced.
by shroomer on Jul 5, 2009 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except Putnam isn't named as a guy in the deal
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 5, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
July 4th in the Cal League transactions:
Stockton Ports traded Danny Putnam to Padres Organization.
LINK – Something’s fishy.
by shroomer on Jul 5, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From MLBTR
Corey Brock of MLB.com tells us that Padres GM Kevin Towers “sounded excited” about the player to be named later, who will be one of two pitchers in the A’s organization. One of these unnamed players reportedly has Major League service time.
Plus Ryan Webb and Craig Italiano.
link
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Jul 5, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope that PTBNL is Gallagher.
Also, they could be sending Hairston and Holliday somewhere as a package. Ludwick was talked about.
by LiamP on Jul 5, 2009 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That doesn't help Oakland
I don’t see how the A’s getting Ludwick is going to be all that beneficial. They should be argeting some younger, higher-ceiling talent with a trade chip like Holliday.
by tlt29 on Jul 5, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because that might be about as good as they can do as far as trade centerpieces go.
Don’t know if you’ve looked at Holliday’s numbers this year, but they’re way way down, reinforcing the thought that he was a Coors-made player. There’s also thought that his numbers are bad enough that he might actually accept arbitration after this year, which means they wouldn’t even get the picks. I don’t think that’s a likely scenario, but it may play into their plans.
Ludwick at least has a few arb years left, and it’s not like he’d be the only one they got back.
by LiamP on Jul 5, 2009 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they could do much better than that
Demand for Holliday will increase after the ASB.
As for the numbers, Holliday’s numbers are still better than Ludwick’s this year. Ludwick is a year older than Holliday, and has a history of injury issues. And, as for the Coors Field effect, Holliday still had an .850+ OPS away from Coorsover the past 3 years.
Holliday is not going to St.Louis for Ludwick.
by tlt29 on Jul 5, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm trying to figure out what Beane is doing?
It doesn’t really make sense.
by Redcaps on Jul 5, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
Moneyball2. Where BB craftily finishes at the bottom of the division year after year so he can have higher draft picks, When they look like they are about to develop he trades them for younger prospects so he can continue to finish last and get more high draft picks. HA! Evil Gernius
by BEW on Jul 5, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Starring Steve Gutenberg.
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by t ball on Jul 6, 2009 7:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow.
I’d watch that version
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 6, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hairston
He would have been a nice pickup for the Rangers, with his 1.102 OPS vs. LHP in a pitchers’ park.
by Darrell McKown on Jul 5, 2009 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably would
I just don’t see how he helps Oakland, either in their lineup or in another deal. Oakland just has too many holes.
by tlt29 on Jul 5, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I assume...
…he’s more a piece for the next couple of years than this year, given their offensive problems and dearth of internal offensive options.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 5, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
But given what the Padres gave up, you are probably talking about Hunter, Schlacht, and a decent third arm.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 5, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Schlact
is the decent second arm? Been reading to much MJH lately?
by Goyogringo on Jul 6, 2009 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would that have been so bad?
Losing Hunter isn’t exactly convenient now, but Hairston’s the kind of hitter we could really use now.
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by Gdawg on Jul 6, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whose spot would he take in the OF?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jul 6, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have him DH a bit
And let him play in the OF for Murphy when there is a lefty starter.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jul 6, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You want Hamilton in CF fulltime?
Isn’t that risky?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jul 6, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not fulltime
I think he’s a bit more wary of crashing into walls now and would be more careful about it in the future. Give him a few starts there a week (maybe not right away with him coming off the DL now) and let Byrd get some playing time there too. I don’t think I want Hairston playing CF for us.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jul 6, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hairston
I suspect he could haved played a decent 1B.
by Darrell McKown on Jul 6, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BUT, who is going to fill the "steaming full diaper" role now?
Heysoos, Davis had a Game Score of 52 tonight! How could he be sent down?
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by Rodney on Jul 5, 2009 10:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
TR Sullivan
“Hamilton is being called up”
ummmm … no he’s not
by texasraider on Jul 5, 2009 10:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
explain please
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jul 5, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's being actviated from the d.l.
Not called up.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 5, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guess that head first slide didn't work out.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Jul 5, 2009 11:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Chris Davis...
defense and hustle will be missed.
by 3Bagger on Jul 6, 2009 2:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
His bat will not be
one of the problems with the Rangers is that their offense with Davis was similar to old Astros offenses.
They had Andrus playing the part of Adam Everett, Salty/Teagarden playing the part of Brad Ausmus, and Chris Davis playing the part of a pitcher.
With a third of the offense sucking, the other 2/3rds has tons of pressure on it, and if they slump its game over. You can trade offense for defense at up the middle positions, like SS and C, you can’t really afford to do it at 1B.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 6, 2009 5:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Elvis is Adam Everett?
C’mon. Adam Everett has a career .290 wOBA. Never in his career has he come within more than 13 points of the .326 wOBA Elvis is putting up in his rookie season. Obviously, neither are assets offensively, but Andrus >>> Everett in a pretty big way.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"Young is the Good version of David Eckstein. Grossly overrated because of grit. He can move one step to the right, and a half step to the left whereever you put him in the field." - DJ Cahill
by lonestarJon on Jul 6, 2009 6:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm using the LSJ method
of ignoring a months worth of production. In Andrus’ case, I’m ignoring May, and if you ignore May, he’s Adam Everett Lite.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 6, 2009 6:44 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Argh
reply fail. Should be a reply to LSJ.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 6, 2009 6:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your replies have sucked lately
you should be sent to another blog, maybe crops on the farm for some work.
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by t ball on Jul 6, 2009 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh please
I don’t ignore “random months”. Are you really telling me it shouldn’t be pointed out if Andruw Jones’ numbers are floating around on the life preserver of his first three games?
Get on base or die, Salty.
"Young is the Good version of David Eckstein. Grossly overrated because of grit. He can move one step to the right, and a half step to the left whereever you put him in the field." - DJ Cahill
by lonestarJon on Jul 6, 2009 7:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
Elvis Andrus minus 3 games (4/17,5/22,6/26),: 218/.301/.318.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 6, 2009 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where those his first three games?
Get on base or die, Salty.
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by lonestarJon on Jul 6, 2009 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It doesn't matter
If you are taking out 3 games, you should have some good reason to take out 3 games other than, he did really good in those games. Why does it not make sense to take out 3 good games that Elvis had?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
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by Gdawg on Jul 6, 2009 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
First of all, Elvis is a shortstop who bats 9th
Andruw is a DH who hits cleanup all the time. Trying to use Elvis as the basis of a comparison to Jones is kind of silly.
Second of all, if it’s a guy’s first three games you’re subtracting and his numbers below-par in the directly ensuing games, I think that means a little more than just subtracting three completely random spaced out games from a guys season.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"Young is the Good version of David Eckstein. Grossly overrated because of grit. He can move one step to the right, and a half step to the left whereever you put him in the field." - DJ Cahill
by lonestarJon on Jul 6, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just showing you
how much you can move stats by subtracting 3 games. Its even worse in AJs case, because he has played about 2/3 as many games as Elvis.
I’m just amazed so many people are so hell bent on getting more people on the roster, like Boggs and Borbon, so they can sit and rot there.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 6, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll admit, a large part of my reason for wanting Andruw gone
Is just so he’ll have his toy taken away, and Hamilton or one of the other OF’s can DH so Borbon can play some.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"Young is the Good version of David Eckstein. Grossly overrated because of grit. He can move one step to the right, and a half step to the left whereever you put him in the field." - DJ Cahill
by lonestarJon on Jul 6, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Er, just so Ron will have his toy taken away.
I don’t believe in letting Ron have guys he’s latched onto.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"Young is the Good version of David Eckstein. Grossly overrated because of grit. He can move one step to the right, and a half step to the left whereever you put him in the field." - DJ Cahill
by lonestarJon on Jul 6, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is no way
Borbon is getting playing time. Just give it up.
The last thing any manager wants to mess with in the middle of a pennant race is to break in a new player. As long as RW has Hamilton, Byrd, Murphy, and Cruz there is not a chance in hell that Borbon will get significant ABs.
Personally, I wish they hadn’t brought him up, because this whole thing was entirely predictable.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jul 6, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, this callup is probably worse than calling up Salty last year was.
It looks totally senseless at this point, and if we stick with Byrd for the rest of the year they might’ve just burned an option they didn’t need to.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"Young is the Good version of David Eckstein. Grossly overrated because of grit. He can move one step to the right, and a half step to the left whereever you put him in the field." - DJ Cahill
by lonestarJon on Jul 6, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the option was already burned
That has no bearing on this
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jul 6, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think everyone's overreacting to the Borbon situation
Yeah, it sucks that he got called up to ride the bench and it wasn’t exactly too hard to see that there wasn’t a clear opening for him to be playing everyday. Still, you’re talking about a week or so where he hasn’t had the chance to play everyday. As long as he gets sent down soon, which I think he will, then it really doesn’t have much of a long-term impact if any.
And what was wrong about calling up Salty last season?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
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by Gdawg on Jul 6, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its just frustrating
Borbon had been so hot right before he was called up. To call up a guy that hot for the purpose of jump starting the offense and then you sit him is just frustrating. Add in the fact Borbon is one of our top positional prospects and it only adds to the frustration
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jul 6, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
you basicly misunderstand.
I don’t think Borbon was added to jump start the offense. The reason I don’t think that was the plan is that I don’t think JD is stupid enough to think a .298/.365/.387 AAA player is going to jump start an offense. That’s not exactly an overwhelming bat.
I think you really need to take that premise out, and see if the moves make more sense to you.
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by DJCahill on Jul 6, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The way this offense was going
A .275/.310 hitter would have been an upgrade,
Our sluggers weren’t slugging so why not bring up a guy who can make things happen with his feet?
And if I take that premise out of my head then it becomes why bring him up if all hes gonna do is sit the bench anyway. Golson would have done just the same thing as Borbon has and Borbon could have stayed down in OKC and stayed in his groove he was in so that later in the year he could have come up and been a sparkplug if needed
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jul 6, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's the question
Why Borbon over Golson? That’s what I don’t understand. But there is no way that JD thought Borbon would cure everything.
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by Gdawg on Jul 6, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My question
How long before Hank goes on the DL?
There's more to the picture than meets the eye.
by tricer on Jul 6, 2009 7:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully
its after Smoak is ready.
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by DJCahill on Jul 6, 2009 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where does Max Ramirez play on days he isn't catching?
The DH spot is no longer open for him.
by cstorm15 on Jul 6, 2009 9:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, if you read the blurb Shroom has on him at the bottom of the minors thread, it might be a good thing if he just rests when he's not playing catcher
The S-word has now been dropped in relation to his wrist thing.
Get on base or die, Salty.
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by lonestarJon on Jul 6, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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