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Chris Davis on being sent down

From Jeff (the writer) Miller:

"It was only a matter of time," he said. "Obviously, I wasn’t making adjustments. You can’t expect them to keep sticking me out there every day, not really being any kind of a threat at the plate. I’m not down about it. You don’t ever want to be sent down, but at the same time it’s kind of a relief to know I can just go get my head straight and kind of take out all the outside influences and just go get back to baseball. Give myself a chance to get back to where I need to be.

"I really appreciate how long they’ve stuck with me, more than they really had to. I think the fact that I was playing really good defense helped a little bit. We’ll go back to square one tomorrow and see what we need to do."

Why is Borbon still up?  In the same piece, Ron Washington says it is because he can bunt and pinch run.  So there you go.

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By all accounts...

…he’s a hard worker and a good guy. Falls in the Kam Loe category…down to earth and very easy to root for.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 5, 2009 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

he actually has some Jason Botts in him

in terms of killing AAA pitching and struggling in the big leagues. Of course, Botts never had a hot start like Davis did, and he obviously wasn’t the fielder Davis was.

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by willamos2 on Jul 5, 2009 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

At the same age botts and davis arn't even close

Not wrong to bring up the comp.. just sayin. What davis did at age appropriate levels as far as HR/RBI is very rare.

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by DShep on Jul 5, 2009 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep, its not even a close comparison

and add to that that Davis has already shown an incredibly solid stretch of hitting at the ML level for a good bit of time. Its almost a different person from a hitting/statistical perspective this year. When you lose confidence like Davis has at such a young age, its hard to function as a ML hitter.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 6, 2009 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately

what he did with K:BB is also rare amongst successful MLB players. I’m sure you can find some guys who strike almost 3.5 times as much as they walk, but not many.

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by DJCahill on Jul 6, 2009 5:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

At least he has a good attitude about it.

He could go absolutely apeshit ballistic, but he’s accepted this as needing to happen.

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by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 5, 2009 11:08 PM CDT reply actions  

I think he's pretty much wanted this for a while

he needs this and hopefully its exactly at the right time for him to get everything straightened out by August

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by blalock84 on Jul 5, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

sounds like he was hoping for it to finally happen. kind of a weird spot to be in, and maybe it partially kept him from having the right mindset to get back to where he needs to be

by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Jul 5, 2009 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

yea, He needs this to get back to being the relaxed hitter he was in the past

We saw what he could do last year being relaxed hitter at the ML level, if he gets back to that, he could help us again b4 the year is out

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 5, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep,

I think that after 3 months of helping to sink the teams offense, he was probably frustrated and feeling a little guilty. Hopefully he straightens out in the minors.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 6, 2009 5:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jeff Francouer style?

Or however you spell his name. That guy is out of touch.

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by DShep on Jul 5, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

How can anybody be this good?

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by AirJordan on Jul 5, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

if OBP was important they would put it on the scoreboard

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by knockoutking on Jul 6, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

It definitely is a good move for CD as well as the team

CD might even need this more than the team. I want him to succeed so badly, i just love the notion of having him and Smoak as serious threats for years to come

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 5, 2009 11:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Very good decision

Good move for Davis to get him a chance to return to where he was last year at this time. Great move for the Rangers so opponents don’t have an automatic strikeout 50% of the time in the lineup anymore.

by Mark from OC on Jul 5, 2009 11:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Chris is seeing the pitches.

He’s just missing the ones that are strikes. I think it’s a timing issue.

by Redcaps on Jul 5, 2009 11:10 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't get Ragners mgmt sometimes

If Borbon is only here to pinch run and bunt — why not just have Golson up? Bah

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jul 5, 2009 11:12 PM CDT reply actions  

eh, i dont think this is long term

its not gonna hurt Borbon that much, and he does get a little bit more MLB experience. He is probably the best guy for this team to have up here to pinch run and bunt so its not all that bad

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 5, 2009 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really?
He is probably the best guy for this team to have up here to pinch run and bunt so its not all that bad

What makes him that much better than Golson?

I don’t think it’s a huge deal or anything — it just doesn’t make alot of sense to me.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jul 5, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

well b/c he handles the bat better and is a better baserunner

i think thats rather obvious. I mean, its not the ideal thing for Borbon, but at this point, Im not so worried about his development b/c we are in a spot where every advantage helps… Im not sure if its worth it, but its not so pointless

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 5, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think it's that obvious

Besides, it’s not like it’s a glaring need. Why not have the better prospect continue to get consistent playing time?

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jul 5, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

eh, im not saying its the right thing to do, i dont know if it is

but we are in a tight race and need all the help we can get. Whether or not the difference bt. Borbon and say Golson is gonna matter in a game while Borbon is up here, who knows, but i understand the desire to have the person who does the most to help the team up here.

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by blalock84 on Jul 5, 2009 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

borbon is going to sit the bench 95% of the time

is his impact in the 5% of the time worth taking him away from a hot streak at AAA?

i think not

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by knockoutking on Jul 6, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Obvious it isn't

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by Brian Thomas on Jul 5, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why isnt it? I mean Golson is a notorious Strike out canidate and

Borbon has put up some really nice SB numbers over the last few years compared to Golson who is fast but not nearly the baserunner… I mean what else is there to say? Borbon is alot better at the two things that Wash wants out of last dude on the bench. Im not saying its the absolute right thing to do from a management standpoint, but it does make sense with what he wants

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by blalock84 on Jul 5, 2009 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Borbon is far from a finished product

It’s kind of dumb to have him up here picking splinters out of his ass.

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by Brian Thomas on Jul 5, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

no, its probably not good for Borbon's development

im not saying otherwise, but he is the better option for the Texas Rangers right at this moment… whether that value offsets the lack of development for Borbon, who knows. It probably doesnt, but hey, its not like its completely stupid

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 5, 2009 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's still ridiculous
but he is the better option for the Texas Rangers right at this moment

We’re talking about a role that Wash is using about once a week. This is after the front office said they were bringing him up to actually play.

It boggles the mind.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jul 6, 2009 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

If you're a 70 speed guy or whatever they say Golson is

do you really need to be a 70 at baserunning?

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by inactive lsb user on Jul 5, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or bunting

for that matter?

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by inactive lsb user on Jul 5, 2009 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes? I mean i dont know if you pay attention to the MiLB box scores but Borbon

gets a very significant number of bunt hits, he’s really a much better bunter than anyone we have besides Omar. Also, he is definitely a better runner of the bases, I mean, how much of a difference between stolen bases do you need to see that? Cuz Borbon has out stolen Golson by 23 bases last year and 9 so far this year. And overall, Borbon is just a better player… again, whether he helps enough to justify him being up here is very debatable, but he is a better option than Golson, that to me is obvious

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by blalock84 on Jul 5, 2009 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

An awful, awful argument.

I’ll digress on the issue.

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by inactive lsb user on Jul 6, 2009 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hehe

 C’est la vie, Rangers Nation.

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by inactive lsb user on Jul 5, 2009 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm still here,

Mutherfucker!

lol

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by Rodney on Jul 5, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good point.

I mean every 3rd day you have Andrus for that also.

What do voluntary mean?

by JKolar on Jul 5, 2009 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

God I suck at typing

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jul 5, 2009 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Borbon might be the one sent

down when Nippert gets activated. Can’t see him remaining with the big club over thier ASB

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by RangerMad on Jul 5, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dunno man

Wash needs dudes to bunt. They do what they do. Borbon bunts. Apparently.

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by Dirk Diggler on Jul 5, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

That's nice to hear from him.

Responsible, respectable, and appreciative.

Here’s hoping he gets everything fixed and is back in the ML lineup soon.

by cmkelly29 on Jul 5, 2009 11:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Yep, had to be done and I'm glad Davis sounds like a reasonable person.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he immediately rakes in AAA.

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by DShep on Jul 5, 2009 11:24 PM CDT reply actions  

AAA hitting coach

is Scott Coolbaugh. He was also Frisco’s hitting coach when CD played there last year. So Chris gets to work with someone he alresady knows.

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by RangerMad on Jul 5, 2009 11:31 PM CDT reply actions  

oh, thats probably a good thing... He put up some ridiculous numbers for AA

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by blalock84 on Jul 5, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

FWIW

I think the OKC radio guy said Coolbaugh’s heading out for his org-mandatory 3-week mid-season vacation.

by shroomer on Jul 5, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

surely the org is smarter than to send the guy off with CD coming into town

right?

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by knockoutking on Jul 6, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

org-mandatory 3-week mid-season vacation

????

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by RangerMad on Jul 5, 2009 11:46 PM CDT reply actions  

something like that - maybe it's only 2 weeks

coulda swore he said 3 weeks tho’. Texas makes the org coaches take time off during the season to keep them sane.

by shroomer on Jul 5, 2009 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I believed Rudy when he said that CD needed to work through it in the Majors.

They certainly gave CD a good chunk of time to do that. Hopefully he can relax now and come back with a massive September.

Certainly like his attitude about it.

I’d like to hear Rudy’s thoughts before I really could say that I like this decision. I understand it from the perspective of win in 2009 - if you can’t fill a hole, at least take one away -, but I’m not certain what it does for 2010, if Rudy still believes CD needs to make the adjustments while with the big club.

So, CD at 1B and Smoak at DH, I assume. Could be a preview of next year.

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by rooster on Jul 5, 2009 11:54 PM CDT reply actions  

eh, we'll see

but if you think about it, next year we will also likely have a log jammed OF if Borbon is given CF. Hammy/Nellie/Murph will all be sharing corner OF slots and we’ll probably DH one of those guys alot of the time.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 6, 2009 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is going to be a long post.. but here is some reaction from the Rangers fan Facebook group...

Michael Zacha
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Michael Zacha at 12:27am July 6
we need davis
Precilla Thompson
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Precilla Thompson at 12:27am July 6
WTF??? Davis wasn’t that bad!
Hunter Sanders
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Hunter Sanders at 12:28am July 6
davis defense ontways his hitting he usually saves a run a game on defense that is stupid
Zane Young
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Zane Young at 12:28am July 6
SMOAK
Eric Palmer
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Eric Palmer at 12:29am July 6
glad to hear Hamilton is back
Dede Webb
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Dede Webb at 12:29am July 6
that’s crap who ever made the decision SUCKS!!!!!!!!!
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Younki 이윤기 Lee at 12:29am July 6
Davis defense was great, with his spreading his legs out to get the ball in to a base. Thats great. But he is getting too much strike outs. I hope he learns that in AAA’s and come back for a great year.
Daniel Southern
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Daniel Southern at 12:29am July 6
He’s been improving a bit, from what I’ve seen; at least to the point where I didn’t assume an automatic out was coming when he was up to bat.
Deb Moore Dyer
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Deb Moore Dyer at 12:29am July 6
we need him on the field, he is AWESOME at first!!
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Staci Ammons Barrett at 12:30am July 6
I hate that they did that to Davis…we need him at 1st!
Veronica Kulhanek Wimmer
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Veronica Kulhanek Wimmer at 12:30am July 6
yeah Josh!…. Davis, crazy, just crazy… boooo
Austin Hall
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Austin Hall at 12:30am July 6
maybe this move will be beneficial for chris and he can get his swing straightened and and cut down the Ks
Sam Hale
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Sam Hale at 12:31am July 6
Took em long enough
Steven Brant
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Steven Brant at 12:31am July 6
Thats not we should be worried bout we start a series Vs. the angles tommorow….lets go RANGERS
Clint Harris
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Clint Harris at 12:31am July 6
Could this possibly be a 3 week showcase for a Blalock trade? I hate Davis is struggling, Im thinking he was rused to the bigs too quickly. Please rangers, dont make the same mistake with justin Smoak
Stefan Lanni
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Stefan Lanni at 12:31am July 6
Hank will be fine at 1B. Then we get to have Andrew Jones as DH at the same time. This will work a lot better than having Davis strike out 3 times a game.
Hunter Sanders
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Hunter Sanders at 12:31am July 6
so now we got six outfeilders and lose a potential gold glove first baseman im sorry that is nuts
Nicholas Alexander
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Nicholas Alexander at 12:32am July 6
Davis couldnt hit water,if he fell out of a boat!!
Amber Whitlock
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Amber Whitlock at 12:32am July 6
Davis seems to be working hard. He’ll be back once he gets going again. Hopefully Hamilton will be productive and not struggling too much.
Kacie Phillips
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Kacie Phillips at 12:32am July 6
Wow…I can’t believe they would do that to Davis but I am happy to see Hamilton returning. :) Keep our winning streak alive!!
Ryan Stern
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Ryan Stern at 12:32am July 6
hank can handle 1b, this is the right move
Daniel De La Paz
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Daniel De La Paz at 12:32am July 6
im a rangers fan and i say this is a great move cuz davis wasnt hitting at all and first base isnt really a possition that defence is really important. You can easly train andru jones or just let blalock pay there hes good 2. Now we got better power and we should go far this year
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Shaun Kelley at 12:33am July 6
okay people davis was that bad!!! we can strengthen first base with our young guy and get at least a run per game with hamilton! with davis…yea he cant hit and to win with the rangers we need our bats!dont freak out people we will be the best in the league batting avreage wise and defense> chris davis has alot of work to do on his swing. not major league at all people!!! suck it up!!wehave to win now!!
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Zachary Butler at 12:33am July 6
i hope it gets better at the minors but we are losing a good 1b and why do we need six of. but hopefully he will be back soon
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Tony Lee Kelsey at 12:33am July 6
I just came home from the Rangers game. Davis was playing first, but his batting sucked…yet AGAIN! But we won!!
Robin Gates
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Robin Gates at 12:34am July 6
I wish his batting was better because his defense is awesome.
Melissa Jones
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Melissa Jones at 12:35am July 6
This sucks Chris is a GREAT player. He is just having a rough year. I cant wait til he comes back up!!!!!!!!!
Mark Kuneman
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Mark Kuneman at 12:35am July 6
I think that Hank will do great at first but Davis has been working hard and improving. He didn’t deserve the boot to AAA
Ryan Stern
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Ryan Stern at 12:35am July 6
its pretty clearly the right move. you cant carry a dead bat in the american league. no matter how good his defense is. also, he plays 1b, not ss or 3b so we can replace that fairly easily
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Liz Collum at 12:35am July 6
bull shit he wasn’t hitting a few weeks ago but he’s been hitting resontly. he’s a great defensive player. i’m glad that hamilton is back but send cruz down instead. i think this is absoluty stupid
Tina Alvarado
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Tina Alvarado at 12:36am July 6
Boo hiss!
Nate Winslow
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Nate Winslow at 12:36am July 6
if you want to make the playoffs your first baseman CANNOT straddle the Mendoza Line, sorry! i’m thinking we’ll pick up a 1B near the trade deadline… Helton? Nick Johnson? i agree w/ Clint… don’t rush Smoak b/c that kid has potential.
Joe Holland
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Joe Holland at 12:37am July 6
Good That hamiltons back. I liked davis, even though he couldnt hit a ball last month, he was good on defense
Taylor Bryant
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Taylor Bryant at 12:37am July 6
awwwwwwww poor chris.. :(
Ryan Stern
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Ryan Stern at 12:37am July 6
crus is hitting 260 with more production at every single key number. his defense is also fine, and he steals bases. davis has killed us for weeks. for the last 6 weeks people have been saying send him down, now they finally do it and people complain. this is hilarious!
Ryan Stern
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Ryan Stern at 12:38am July 6
helton is making 15 mil a year and is on a contending team. he aint going naywhere, least of all to texas. no chance.
Zachary Lewis
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Zachary Lewis at 12:39am July 6
Here is how it will go. Blalock will play 1B. The outfield will stay the same and Josh Hamilton will DH until he ges his timing back. No need to change up an outfield that his done no harm since the Hamilton injury. Then when Hamilton’s timing is good then he will return to the outfield and this will leave an outfielder in flux. (You have to have four OF’s so one can always be an alternate. Anyway, that outfielder in flux will be trade bait for the money strapped Rangers.
Dave Guevara
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Dave Guevara at 12:39am July 6
WAHT?!?!?!?….THATS CRAZY!!!!
John Muzyka
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John Muzyka at 12:39am July 6
I have mixed feelings about this. We will miss his defense and he hustled tonight. I was at the game and he swung better tonight than Hank Blalock. Will AAA help him?
Ryan Stern
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Ryan Stern at 12:41am July 6
there are many positions where you can take defense over offense. First base is the least of them.
Justin Lawless
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Justin Lawless at 12:42am July 6
First off, it is a great move, because it will still give him a chance to work on improving his swing, while taking advantage of the HOT hitters like Blalock and Jones at first, and Murphy and Byrd in the outfield. Now for the one that called for Cruz to be sent down, apparently 20 homeruns and no minor league options left are not good enough for … Read Moreyou. You wanna send him on waivers and have someone claim him for nothing after all we put into him. Look at him now and look at what Chris Davis could become if we don’t give up on him. Patience is the key when you are dealing with the young team of stars that we have.
Kim Yong Jin
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Kim Yong Jin at 12:42am July 6
oh.. Davis..
Tyler Jones
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Tyler Jones at 12:43am July 6
Put hamilton at first base!!! haha nah blalock.
Kyle Kramer
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Kyle Kramer at 12:43am July 6
YES!!!!!!!
Ryan Stern
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Ryan Stern at 12:43am July 6
201 ba, 252 obp, 113k, 33 rbi. nobody with those numbers should be in the majors, not if you want to make the playoffs
Dave Guevara
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Dave Guevara at 12:45am July 6
WE NEED DAVIS’S DEFENSE!!!!
NOBODY ON OUR TEAM CAN STRETCH LIKE HIM!!!!!!
Rebekah L. Garay
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Rebekah L. Garay at 12:46am July 6
Oh man…..that heartbreaking. I was really hoping Chris could pull it out. I hope he gets it together in Triple A
Ryan Stern
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Ryan Stern at 12:47am July 6
figure out how many more runs hank will creat on offense ove CD. Then subtract how many runs CD saves on defense over hank. I assure you guys that hank is much much more valuable to this team. Its probably not even close!
Marty England
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Marty England at 12:47am July 6
A blind monkey can play first base……and probably hit better than Davis.
Jeremy Golden
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Jeremy Golden at 12:47am July 6
It is about time that Chris Davis is being sent back to AAA. Every time I saw him up to bat it was either going to be a strikeout or a flyout. He needs to tune up his hitting skills and they to put Blalock @ 1B and Jones @ DH. Perhaps he can tune up his swing down there because he is swinging the bat like he is trying to hit a golf ball.
Patrick Timmerman
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Patrick Timmerman at 12:49am July 6
YES! Trading one .200 hitter for another. At least Davis wanted to be in the majors. Josh Hamilton like being the local celebrity.
David Jones
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David Jones at 12:50am July 6
Glad Hamiltons back-but sending Davis down because he is struggling at the plate doesnt make sense.
Austin Kolakowski
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Austin Kolakowski at 12:50am July 6
shoulda sent down borbon instead. davis is a playmaker on the diamond. now we have twice as many outfielders as you need. nice move daniels
Dave Guevara
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Dave Guevara at 12:53am July 6
well at least we still have micael…
well speaking of michael look at this tribute i made for him…

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Alex Cardoso at 12:56am July 6
I’m so happy that Hamilton is ready to come back. hopefully he stays healthy the rest of the way. but idk about Davis getting sent down. maybe its a good move, maybe its not. but he’ll def be back soon. sure he is down to a 200 batting avg, but his HR and RBI stats are splendid.
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Jason McCoy at 12:57am July 6
it’ll be good for him, he wasn’t in the minors long enough to build a strong consistent swing, so he’ll get it worked out and comeback swinging .275 or more and get a gold glove for sure, good to have Hamilton back though and i think it’s going to help the team
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Sarah Dziadura at 1:00am July 6
I watched Chris Davis play in High A Bakersfield and he struggled for a little while at the plate but just when people gave up on him he hit almost every time he was up to bat and quickly moved up the organization. I’m sure he will be back to doing that in no time.
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Cormac M Kelly at 1:02am July 6
Do any of you people who are “boo-ing” the Davis demotion actually watch Rangers game, or for that matter, know how to gauge a players value?
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Alex Walters at 1:07am July 6
thank god davis went down he stricks out 41% of the time. Thats top in the majors
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Precilla Thompson at 1:10am July 6
Everyone is having a lowpoint… not just davis
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Josh Quirk at 1:22am July 6
Went and watched Josh play today in OKC…he looks good and went 2 for 4 with a double and a triple. He missed the left field bleachers by a couple of feet. But he looked good at the plate and played well in the field. It will be nice to see him in his Rangers uniform again…Chris will get this figured out and will be back soon…
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Preston Jones at 1:22am July 6
Jon Daniels can kiss the fattest part of my ass >:(
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Jeff Powell at 1:26am July 6
It’s about time Davis gets demoted…why not put Blalock at 1st? Much better bat and will give time for young Chris Davis to figure out his stroke in the Minors. I agree Jon Daniels sucks monkey balls!
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Trevor Pueblo at 1:29am July 6
jon daniels needs to hurry up and sell the team hes screwing stuff up and blalock is going to play 1st with Ham at DH
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Stephen Odom at 1:36am July 6
John Daniels has done nothing but improve this team since he got here…obviously you guys dont pay much attention…the decision to send davis down is a good one…yeah his defense was amazing but the lack of hits is killing the bottom part of the lineup…let him get his confidence back down in triple a and then come back up and hit like we know … Read Morehe can. Im a huge davis fan myself being from longview and everything but this was the right decision. But as for daniels he has done nothing but build this team into a contender in the AL West.
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John S Mulligan at 1:39am July 6
FINALLY Thank God
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Lucas Angell at 1:39am July 6
hes not the owner dumbass
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Jerrod Hamilton at 1:42am July 6
why send davis back?? he is getting better at batting
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Danny Ray Jordan at 1:42am July 6
can blaylock play every day at 1st?
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John S Mulligan at 1:42am July 6
im with stephen on this one. plus if you have more strikeouts than ryan howard and adam dunn. thats telling u something. besides blalock plays a pretty good 1st.

by cmkelly29 on Jul 6, 2009 12:45 AM CDT reply actions  

cliff notes?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 6, 2009 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

tl;dr

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by inactive lsb user on Jul 6, 2009 4:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Long, stupid post.

Paste a link and summary next time. As it is its so long, no one is gonna read that crap.

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by DJCahill on Jul 6, 2009 5:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

If LSB had an edit feature...

I’d make the pain go away. Honestly, I didn’t realize it would be THAT long.

by cmkelly29 on Jul 6, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

wtf?

Worthless.

There's more to the picture than meets the eye.

by tricer on Jul 6, 2009 5:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

dude

come on

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by Dirk Diggler on Jul 6, 2009 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Daniel De La Paz at 12:32am July 6
im a rangers fan and i say this is a great move cuz davis wasnt hitting at all and first base isnt really a possition that defence is really important. You can easly train andru jones or just let blalock pay there hes good 2. Now we got better power and we should go far this year

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by knockoutking on Jul 6, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

winner.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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by knockoutking on Jul 6, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Last 7 games

We’ll be facing righthanded starters each game in Anaheim, so it will be pretty easy to just play Blalock at 1B, stay with the Cruz-Byrd-Murphy outfield, and let Hamilton DH for at least a couple games to break back in. If Hamilton plays the OF, then either Byrd or Murphy can DH.

The four in Seattle are a little more difficult, since three of them will be against lefties. I don’t think playing Jones at 1B is a good idea, although the way Murphy is hitting right now, I suspect will see Jones at 1B for at least one of those games.

by Darrell McKown on Jul 6, 2009 12:50 AM CDT reply actions  

David Murphy vs RHP since his 0-22 start

.333/ .392/ .553

He better not sit against any RHP.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 6, 2009 1:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

vs LHP though

please. benchhhhhhhhhhhh

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by knockoutking on Jul 6, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good to see CD is taking it well

I imagine he’s just as disappointed with his season as everyone who now hates him is, possibly more, but it’s good to see him saying the right things at least.

Now, Wash relegating Borbon to a glorified Greg Golson role… that’s a different story. I all he’s going to be used as is a pinch runner and “bunter” (what the fuck does that even mean anyway? He can bunt, yeah… but when? He never plays!) he needs to be sent back down.

Get on base or die, Salty.

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by LSJ on Jul 6, 2009 1:01 AM CDT reply actions  

Borbon

Ugh the handling of Borbon has been an utter fuckup of the highest order. This isn’t a guy who you don’t expect to be anything more than a platoon guy like Boggs for example. This is a prospect who has been expected to be the everyday CF for the last couple years. To bring him up and relegate him to the bench is a travesty. I am one of the biggest FO defenders on here but this is a huge mistake. If this is all a guy is gonna do when called up then Golson should be that guy from now on. Don’t bring Borbon up unless you plan on playing him everyday regardless of what others do.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 6, 2009 1:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

100% agreed.

Get on base or die, Salty.

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by LSJ on Jul 6, 2009 1:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Totally agree

It has been downright baffling the way they’ve used this kid. I just don’t understand how they think that him sitting in the 100 degree heat on his ass for a measly 5 AB the past week is going to help him. He needs to play everyday and develop so he can be our everyday CF next year, when Byrd is gone and Hamilton will no longer be playing there.

If he isn’t sent down when Nippert is activated or swapped out for Golson soon, I’m going to be pretty pissed.

by behindthebag on Jul 6, 2009 1:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not baffling in the least.

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by DJCahill on Jul 6, 2009 6:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

but apparently

the orders from JD and the front office were for Borbon to play everyday and that fucking idiot manager and his Menthol, jambalaya, and whiskey coated GUT said not to do it

by blueballlefty on Jul 6, 2009 1:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who is he going to play everyday over?

Murphy and Byrd have played well and Cruz is one of our few power threats. He just doesn’t have a spot right now.

by behindthebag on Jul 6, 2009 1:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

well he could start in center against righty's

or he could start in left against lefties, move Marlon or Murph to DH for a night or two? I mean WTF you can’t find a single start for the kid in a freaking week

by blueballlefty on Jul 6, 2009 1:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

That dude in your avitar

Part of the reason Wash “can’t” make any time for Borbon in the OF.

Get on base or die, Salty.

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by LSJ on Jul 6, 2009 1:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

"THAT DUDE"

has played like 5 games all year in OF

by blueballlefty on Jul 6, 2009 1:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but he's the reason why Murphy and Byrd can't (or won't) be moved to DH for a few games.

Too busy getting Andruw “I’m the new Blalock” Jones time at DH.

Get on base or die, Salty.

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by LSJ on Jul 6, 2009 1:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have a feeling Marlon gets moved.

Another trade must be brewing, ..

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by inactive lsb user on Jul 6, 2009 4:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

It seems like Marlon has been traded

5 times already with all the rumors that have swirled around him the last couple of years

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by NothinG on Jul 6, 2009 7:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately

the handling of Borbon is pretty much what I expected.

I was surprised that people were so pumped about him getting called up. Borbon, being a rookie, was likely to be another drain on an offense that already had issues at C, SS, and 1B. Its a team that needed offense, and Borbon wasn’t likely to bring it as he was adjusting to MLB.

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by DJCahill on Jul 6, 2009 6:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Borbon

I don’t have a problem with not playing him right now, particularly the way the offense has improved the past few games. But then why bring him up? He’s only been at AAA for about half a season, and he sure wasn’t forcing his way onto the roster with a great season.

by Darrell McKown on Jul 6, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think the only reason

he was brought up is that Boggs wasn’t eligible due to being sent down recently and they needed an OF in case of injury.

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by DJCahill on Jul 6, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would have gone with Golson if that was the case

Golson and Boggs are both guys who don’t figure to be everyday players in the long run so having them come up and sit the bench isn’t that big a deal.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 6, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Boggs

I think he could be a platoon OF in the long run.

I’m not sure I’d put his chances being a ML regular much lower than Borbon’s, if he’s given a chance.

by Darrell McKown on Jul 6, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Defense and speed in CF

Can turn a marginal bat into a MLB starter.

What do voluntary mean?

by JKolar on Jul 6, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dont get this logic

The only people that have relegated Borbon to the bench have the last name of Byrd/Murphy/Cruz, not Daniels or Washington. We weren’t getting the production out of the outfield we needed from the outfield as a whole. We brought up legit prospect, not platoon guy (Golson). Suddenly, they all started ballin’. I took that as a wake-up call and message received. If they hadn’t have gone apeshit at the plate Borbon would be getting his playing time. I also lumped Murphy in there because while he had some success leading up to the Borbon call up, it didn’t seem much longer than his slump. So he was at a point where he was either going to regress or keep hitting. Borbon was his incentive. This was an excellent move. Now Borbon knows what he needs to do to supplant one of them.

by corbsclinton on Jul 6, 2009 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Borbon

Like you said Borbon is a legit prospect. Generally those guys don’t get brought up unless the ML team is fully prepared to use them in their everyday role. It didn’t have to be in CF necessarily although I would have loved to see him out there but he shouldn’t have been brought up as a “wake up call” to other guys.

Would you have been upset if Justin Smoak had been brought up and sat because Davis all of a sudden started hitting?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 6, 2009 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

i like your comparison

but it would be more accurate if Smoak could play 3 positions and take at-bats from any of 3 guys that were struggling, not just Davis. Borbon was brought up with every intention of being used. Wash was real clear about that when he got here. But what happened was not that Wash just changed his mind, the guys that he was going to take at-bats from changed it for him. I also think this effected Blalock as well. Any of those 3 could get hot, hammy comes back, and we have a legit prospect that needs at bats, Blalock better be swinging well. So while it turned out to be a wake-up call, it started out as an attempt to get better production from one of the OF positions.

That’s exactly what happened. Mission accomplished. Borbon also finds out the level of play expected of him to hold down one of the positions when someone gets hurt or starts sucking again.

by corbsclinton on Jul 6, 2009 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Here are some splits for you:

7 games before call-up:

Nelson Cruz 3-30
Marlon Byrd 5-26
David Murphy 5-25

Hank Blalock 3-20

After Borbon call up:

Nelson Cruz 8-22
Marlon Byrd 9-20
David Murphy 9-18

Hank Blalock 5-18

I concede that hitters come out of slump on their own but damn if it isn’t a helluva coincidence that every player that Borbon can get at-bats from started mashing.

by corbsclinton on Jul 6, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

well it's definitely a coincidence

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by Dirk Diggler on Jul 6, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

That shouldn't be an excuse for benching Borbon though.

If you don’t feel you can play him over the guys you currently have, he needs to be sent back down to continue working on his approach, and probably should have never been called up in the first place.

If you want a speedy guy off the bench, call up Greg Golson.

Get on base or die, Salty.

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by LSJ on Jul 6, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

He wasn't called up

to be a speedy guy off the bench. He was called up to play outfield because our outfield was sucking. Everybody starts hitting all at the same time. Who’s at-bats do you suggest taking? But never called up in the first place? Your 20/20 hindsight is really impressive. How the heck are you gonna know that your whole outfield is going to come out of their suckitude at the same time? Borbon got called up at the right time and the offense from the outfield got better after the move. Just not the way the conventional logic at the time says it should have happened.

by corbsclinton on Jul 6, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

So....

Are you saying that Cruz, byrd, Murphy, and Blalock weren’t trying until Borbon got called up? I don’t buy that. It’s just a coincidence that they all started hitting better at the same time he got here.

Regardless, since they are hitting better, it’s time to send him back down and let him work on learning how to take a few more walks.

by Darrell McKown on Jul 6, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

weren't trying?

umm, no. That would be borderline retarded to say being that they are every-day players on a team that is 10 games above .500.

But would I say, “that any player in baseball that is in a slump and during said slump front office brings in legit prospect up that plays your position, might find his swing in a hurry” might be more accurate? Absolutely.

I agree with you on sending him back down purely on getting him at-bats but the call-up was the right move and there is no travesty we have inflicted on borbon or:

“…the handling of Borbon has been an utter fuckup of the highest order”

That’s rhetoric.

by corbsclinton on Jul 6, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

If you bring up a prospect like Borbon

You bring him up and play him everyday regardless of what others are doing. If you were going to bring someone up to play until guys got their groove back then you bring up Golson.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 6, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

"A prospect like Borbon"

Its not like this guy is Smoak. If we are lucky he is Jacoby Ellsbury.

You don’t screw up a season by trying to force him into a lineup.

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by DJCahill on Jul 6, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

He is a prospect who you have labeled

“CF of the future” pretty much since the day you drafted him. You gave him a ML deal when you drafted him. This isn’t a guy who may end up as a platoon type OF who starts 120 games or so a year. This is a guy who seems to be on track to play everyday in CF and give you above average defense.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 6, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with both of you guys actually

Borbon needs to play everyday, but you shouldn’t be forcing him into the lineup and onto the field when you’re working on winning the division. Hmm, if only there was some place Borbon could play everyday without risking the Major League’s team record.

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by Gdawg on Jul 6, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right

If you need a fast guy to pinch run or whatever, what’s wrong with Golson?

Borbon should be playing every day in the minors if they aren’t going to give him a spot in the majors (which is fine).

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by Dirk Diggler on Jul 6, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Borbon

riding the pine for a week in the majors isn’t going to warp his development. Borbon has not been wronged or mishandled. He had some bad timing but the only reason he’s not on the field is because the 3 guys he was going to get AB’s from started playing well, not because the FO made a mistake. Next roster spot needed let him go back.

 But missing 40-50 ABs in AAA is nothing to cry over.

by corbsclinton on Jul 6, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was red hot when he was brought up

Now hes sat for a week or two. I doubt hes gonna be able to go back and continue where he left off. IF you weren’t gonna play him everyday then Golson should have been brought up.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 6, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

He wasn't called up

to be a speedy guy off the bench. He was called up to play outfield because our outfield was sucking.

by corbsclinton on Jul 6, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

its very possible

that we have our best defensive CF riding the pine.

What do voluntary mean?

by JKolar on Jul 6, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

Marlon has been looking real outa place in center. Costing us a ton of runs.

Is Borbon’s improvement in CF defense worth sitting a guy who hasn’t made an error there and is hitting .300 in his last 50 at-bats?

by corbsclinton on Jul 6, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Borbon plays better defense

And when he was brought up he was hitting .323 with a .400 OBP for the month of June.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 6, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

so you think

he should be playing instead on Byrd?

by corbsclinton on Jul 6, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think when he was brought up he should have played everyday

If Byrd or Cruz or Murphy snapped out of their funk then you can send Borbon back down if thats your plan. But to have him up here riding the pine makes me upset

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 6, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

what if 1 of the 3

goes on a 1-20 streak, you want to call him back up after you sent him down a week earlier or do you want him already here getting a spot start every once and awhile and running/def sub in late innings? We needed a Golson fast bench player earlier right?, Since Borbon is up, why wouldn’t he stay till something happens like a 4th outfielder?

by corbsclinton on Jul 6, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would have rather he been playing from the get go

If guys get hot again then send him back down and let him continue playing. Then if someone goes cold call him back up. It just pisses me off this guy is considered one of our core prospects who we have tabbed as a future everyday player who has done nothing in the minors to make us think he won’t be that. He was red hot when you brought him up and then you proceed to bench him. That just irritates the hell out of me

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 6, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

well its been 2 weeks

not quite

an utter fuckup of the highest order
just yet.

I just think its interesting how many people agree with you on this “mishandling” and are up in arms when they completely forget why the guy got called up in the first place and what happened after he got here.

by corbsclinton on Jul 6, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ahh don't know what happened

Borbon plays beter defense and was hitting .323 with a .400 OBP for the month of June when called up. You bring him up and play him everyday and if the other guys click into gear then send him back down but you don’t sit him on the bench.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 6, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

so you think

he should be playing instead of Byrd?

by corbsclinton on Jul 6, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

A lot of people think that.

The only reason that Byrd hasn’t been traded yet is that he’s supposedly a glue guy in the clubhouse.

That’s great and all, but we won’t need him next year.

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by inactive lsb user on Jul 6, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

He is no more the CF

of the future than Thomas Diamond was the starter of the future when he was drafted.

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by DJCahill on Jul 6, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Was Diamond given a ML contract upon being drafted

Those aren’t given out to everyone. Those are given out to guys who teams feel will help the club out within 2-3 years.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 6, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

even when he hits sixth and DHs?

i keed i keed

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by knockoutking on Jul 6, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Borbon staying up

this to me says that the team is hoping that CD gets back on track quick, and they can call him up after the All-Star break

by blueballlefty on Jul 6, 2009 1:10 AM CDT reply actions  

Well, then then the front office must have an inside track at the Vatican for getting miracles dispensed.

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by LSJ on Jul 6, 2009 1:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

a little harsh huh?

saying it would be a miracle if Davis can get on track in 2-3 weeks, if it is just a timing thing it is something that 20-25 AB’s could take care of

by blueballlefty on Jul 6, 2009 1:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think it's just a timing thing with Davis

If that’s all it was, he wouldn’t be in this predicament. I think his entire swing may need to be reworked. I don’t expect to see him back in the majors until September, myself.

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by LSJ on Jul 6, 2009 1:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

so the same swing

that hit .285 with 17 bombs in 300 PA’s last year look at a side by side, his swing is the exact same dude

by blueballlefty on Jul 6, 2009 1:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe to you and me

But we’re not hitters or hitting coaches. All I know is that swing hasn’t produced anything but some of the worst offensive #‘s in the AL this year. Something obviously changed between 2008 and 2009, and it wasn’t just timing or the league figuring him out. Those are probably factors too, but something else had to break down in his game to make him go from a .371 wOBA to a .289 wOBA.

Chris Davis is broken, and if it takes less than a month to fix him I will be extremely (and pleasantly) surprised.

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by LSJ on Jul 6, 2009 1:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

its almost entirely mental

it really is, hitting is so much about that. He may have messed some things up with his swing while pressing, but at the basis of this whole thing, its his mental approach and everything that has been bombarding him mentally that has thrown him off. Hopefully, he can regain his confidence and figure out a better approach at the plate than the one he had so far this year and find the confidence and mentality he had last year.

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by blalock84 on Jul 6, 2009 1:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

Last year when he was brought up he was on a mental high from dominating minor league pitching. This year he struggled in spring training which I think carried over to the regular season and once he started off slow this season he was unable to overcome that mental block. Let him go back down and hit up minor league pitching and hopefully he can come back up in a onth or so and be a big part of our final push to the playoffs

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 6, 2009 1:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Glad to hear Davis taking it well

I’m surprised to hear they aren’t sending him to low A or rookie to crush pitchers and get his confidence up. I think its pretty much all mental with CD. I’m also surprised they are having him split time at AAA rather than going to AA.

Hopefully he gets his head on straight and is able to come up later.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 6, 2009 6:10 AM CDT reply actions  

Low A or Rookie

sending him that far down might be a blow to his confidence, not a boon.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jul 6, 2009 7:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bah,

it’ll look like batting practice pitching to him, but it will be in a game setting.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 6, 2009 7:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

why not AA then?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 6, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I suggested AA

in another thread here recently.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jul 6, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

may the Sultan of Squat R.I.P.

oh what the hell spare me the drama, when he comes back he’s gonna be a monster.

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Vince from slap chop

by BigGuns on Jul 6, 2009 8:10 AM CDT reply actions  

chris davis

should be ok going back down to the minors……hell look how well it helped Cruz become a better player. Also, I have seen so many posts here saying the logjam in the future outfield and leaving Byrd out everytime. Do any of you notice he is one of the better hitters on the team hitting above 280 and seems to make things happen, also plays good defense. I hope we dont just get rid of people like Byrd just to rush prospects in here. Also, don’t forget Smoak in this equation of the Davis deal. Smoak doesn’t strikeout often and walks alot so he must have a good eye. One NL scout the past week said he is going to make people in Texas forget all about Tex and how good he use to be for us. I sure hope this is true :)

by dubious on Jul 6, 2009 8:38 AM CDT reply actions  

Davis vs Cruz

I really hope it doesn’t take Davis until hes 29 to finally figure things out.

The difference between those two is Davis had success in the majors upon his callup. He just didn’t carry that over to this year. Cruz struggled from the get go in the majors until he was out of options and was forced to go down for an extended period.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 6, 2009 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

on the 29 thing

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 6, 2009 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

well my point was

that cruz sucked it up in the majors then went to the minors tore it up and regained confidence and came back a better player. I know age and all that plays a part but it was just an example of that nothing more :)

by dubious on Jul 6, 2009 9:25 AM CDT reply actions  

Psst - reply button, noob.

:)

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by LSJ on Jul 6, 2009 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Does anyone else think having

Davis go to AAA might cause unneeded pressure on him due to Smoak being there? Every hit and BB will put pressure on CD to keep up since Smoak is Chris’ competition for 1B.

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by RangerMad on Jul 6, 2009 9:42 AM CDT reply actions  

They are gonna be teammates for a long long time

I hope Chris isn’t that much of a mental midget he can’t handle a little competition

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 6, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

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