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Minors 7/6

Here's todays pitching probs:

Star-divide

At 4 Guillermo Moscoso will get the start for OKC.

At 5:45 Frisco will play a twin bill with Mike Ballard starting game 1 and Kasey Kiker going in game 2.

At 6 Neil Ramirez will toe the rubber for Hickory.

At 8:30 Matt Thompson will make the start for Spokane.

At 9:45 Ryan Tatusko will try to throw a no-no for Bakersfield.

Sometime tonight the AZL Rangers will play with possibly Juan Grullon starting. 

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I see you voted in the CPP

but didn’t provide any commentary? or did I miss it?

There's more to the picture than meets the eye.

by tricer on Jul 6, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I mean there's 178 posts already, not much else to say about #1

Before I saw that it had pretty much been covered, I was going to say that, going in, I would have thought that Feliz vs Perez for #2 would be interesting. But it looks like Feliz will win that easily, based on the #1 voting. It’s a tricky vote for me because I think that Perez is special. And I don’t use that term lightly.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 6, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

see, a highlight of these CPPs for me

is reading your takes on these guys. Even that snippet above is kinda illuminating to me.

Anything you have found encouraging/discouraging about Feliz this season. Still see his ceiling as TORG?

There's more to the picture than meets the eye.

by tricer on Jul 6, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I’m not really deterred much if any by his season. This was his consolidation year.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 6, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

oops.

yep

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Jul 6, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Goldstein
Robbie Ross, LHP, Rangers (Short-season Spokane)
A second-round pick last year out of a Kentucky high school, Ross signed for an over-slot bonus of $1.575 million, but the deadline deal prevented him from making his pro debut until this year. Despite being a 5-foot-11 southpaw, Ross is actually a power arm with plus control, as he has been clocked up to 94 mph so far this summer while showing potential will his slider and changeup. He struck out 10 over five innings on Sunday, and has 34 whiffs against just four walks in 20 1/3 innings on the season, so he is definitely someone worth keeping an eye on.

Nothing new there, but always good to see it from outside eyes.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 6, 2009 2:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Click the LINK

then scroll just a little for some brief Ross video. Listen to what the guy claims the radar gun said last night. Doesn’t Ross look a lot like Kiker? O’Campo looks skinny and Podraza’s HR swing looked positively Damon-esque.

by shroomer on Jul 6, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

!!!

!!!

"I can wake up out of the bed and play outfield. It's easy." --Milton Bradley

by coolaid on Jul 6, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

jizz in my pants

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 6, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

btw, im clueless when it comes to mechanics, but i really like the snippet i saw of Ross pitching there

of course, im always partial to guys who can sling it with high leg kicks.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 6, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

and Shroom, thanks as always for sniffing out any and all minor league info that could possibly be found

you are LSBs bloodhound for minor league info

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 6, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

Ross is almost two full years older than Kiker was at the same level so there is that small little detail

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 6, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't tell this to Fin

To him they both are midgets that can’t throw the ball.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jul 6, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good point, bigsteve

Though I refuse to be rational when it comes to a lefty prospect with a career K/9 that is greater than 15 and career BB/9 that is less than 2.

by spurdynasty on Jul 6, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha

Even when said career is ~20 IP in a short season league?

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jul 6, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

You guys need to stop raining on my parade.

Did I mention that Ross’ numbers eclipse what Felix Hernandez (12 K/9 and 4 BB/9) and Neftali Feliz (16 K/9 and 7 BB/9) did in the Northwest League?

by spurdynasty on Jul 6, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

heh

keep it up. I like optimism

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jul 6, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha

17 months is almost two years? He’s a year behind where Kiker was developmentally.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 6, 2009 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

umm its 19 months

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 6, 2009 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kiker on June 20 of 2006 was 18 and seven months.
Ross on June 20 of 2009 is 19 and eleven months and three weeks

by Brett Perryman on Jul 6, 2009 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

For the arithmetically challenged:

Kiker DOB: 11/19/87
Ross DOB: 6/24/1989

On June 20 of 2006, Kiker was 18 years and 213 days old.
On June 20 of 2009 Ross was 19 years old and 361 days old.

19 – 18 = 1 year
361 – 213 = 148 days

148 / 30 = 4 months and 28 days

by Brett Perryman on Jul 6, 2009 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

From November to June

December, January, February, March, April, May, and June

Thats 7 months

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 6, 2009 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

You’re forgetting to subtract that number from three years. 36 months – 19 months = 17 months.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 6, 2009 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

What does 3 years have to do with anything?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 6, 2009 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes but im confused

19 months after Kiker was born Ross was born

How does that all of a sudden make them only 17 months apart?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 6, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because we’re not comparing how much older Kiker is than Ross. We’re comparing how much older Ross was when he started at Spokane than Kiker was. Kiker debuted three years ago.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 6, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK thank you

I wasn’t trying to argue I was truly confused. I was comparing simply their ages. For some reason it didn’t click that we were on different paths.

To that point he is still well over a year older than Kiker was with professional experience under his belt (albeit in extended and instructs and such). It doesn’t diminish what Ross has done but we shouldn’t also be discounting what Kiker did and has done.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 6, 2009 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

DOB

Kiker: 11/19/87
Ross: 6/24/89

Thats a few days over 19 months difference. Don’t know what calendar you are looking at

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 6, 2009 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't see the link,

as I’m posting from my iPhone. But there was certainly no 97 out of Ross last night. He was 90-94. Hit 94 a handful of times.

by JasonCole on Jul 6, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for clarifying, Dr. Cole

I will tone down my enthusiasm (but only just a bit). On a scale of 1 to 10, how would you rate your excitement level regarding Ross? Are you hearing any buzz among the scouts?

Did you get to see Braden Tullis a few days ago? How interesting is he?

It looks like Matt Thompson had a solid night. What was his velocity? How’s his curve? Is it time to begin conisdering him for inclusion in the Rangers’ Top 30?

by spurdynasty on Jul 6, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm actually not in Spokane

Just talking to some people that had reports from a legit radar gun there. I probably won’t see most of the Spokane guys until instructs. I’ll be in Hickory in a few days, though.

From what I saw of Thompson in Spring Training, I’d say he’s absolutely a top 30 guy, even before I saw what he’s doing in Spokane. He’s got a low-90s fastball with a hammer of a curveball. And I think he’ll add some velo and develop that changeup. He’ll be in my top 30 next year, and probably top 20. Maybe even higher.

I’ve still never seen Velazquez in person. He was already kicked off the AZL team and sent home by the time I got there in ‘07, and obviously he wasn’t around at all last year. All my info on him comes from scouts, coaches, Rangers’ officials, and teammates. I hear nothing but rave reviews about his talent.

However, there are two photos of Velazquez here: http://www.asgbaseball.com/2007_0217.htm

by JasonCole on Jul 7, 2009 1:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

And one other thing

Did you get a photo of Velazquez for Shroom?

by spurdynasty on Jul 6, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bianucci to Bakersfield per Lucas

Saw one comment in the morning notes, but I know many on this board have been pining for him to get promoted!

by Doc Mabee on Jul 6, 2009 2:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Also from Goldstein
Mike Bianucci, OF, Rangers (Low-A Hickory)
Sunday’s stats: 2-for-2, HR (15), 2 R, 3 RBI, BB
An eighth-round pick last June out of Auburn, Bianucci is a wide-bodied outfielder with a plus power and surprising athleticism, and he’s been the best hitter in the Sally League this year, batting .335/.404/.604 while leading the circuit in slugging and ranking third in on-base percentage. The probably of course is that Bianucci is 23 years old and from a big-time college program, so it’s not especially surprising to see him put up big numbers at this level. High-A won’t be much of an indicator either, as he’ll move to the high-octane environs of the California League this week, so we may not really know what we have here until Bianucci gets to Double-A, which should be by 2010, if not earlier.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 6, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Itll

be interesting to see what comes of him, Tim Smith and Moreland. Im really starting to jump on the Tim Smith bandwagon.

by Michael Cave on Jul 6, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bianucci

I completely suck at predicting success of young minor leaguers but I’d like to point out that I was on the Bianucci bandwagon the second after he was drafted (of course naropean apparently had me beat by a month).

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Jul 6, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's have another try at streaming OKC:

Here

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Jul 6, 2009 3:55 PM CDT reply actions  

That sucks.

Just trying to spread a little joy…I let you down man {sniff, sniff}

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Jul 6, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Davis

brkn bat single looped over the SS’s haid off Ponson – erased in a DP on the next pitch

by shroomer on Jul 6, 2009 4:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Smoak/Davis Dynamic

Does anyone else get the idea that the Smoak promotion/Davis demotion were done in concert? I’ve got to believe that having the guy who wants my job batting right in front of me might be the single best way to snap me out of a slump. Perhaps Davis will stop thinking when he goes up to bat and simply start looking to knock the crap out of the ball.

by spurdynasty on Jul 6, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dog eat dog

I’ve been thinking about that lately – seeing more brazen competition for jobs over the next few years as the farm talent dopplers.

by shroomer on Jul 6, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

eh, now thats a good use of doppler

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 6, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Davis is pretty well focused on what he has to do to get better and isn't all that concerned about what Smoak is doing.

There’s room for both anyway.

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on Jul 6, 2009 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

The OKC radio guy claims

Bobby Jones said he’ll use Davis and Smoak like you’d expect – splitting them between DH and 1B. But he also said Davis would play some 3rd base, too, in order to keep them both playing everyday.

by shroomer on Jul 6, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Moscoso and Hunter

are going to make rotation forecasts interesting.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 6, 2009 4:48 PM CDT reply actions  

i like Moscoso

alot

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 6, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Any word on why Alvarez hasn't pitched for the rookie league team in 2 weeks?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 6, 2009 4:55 PM CDT reply actions  

I was wondering that, too

The AZ rooks play a game and a half today, finishing off a suspended game from June 27th on top of playing the regular scheduled one. Maybe we’ll see Alvarez somewhere in all these innings that need to be pitched tonight.

by shroomer on Jul 6, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

paydirt

Alvarez took over in the 6th in the suspended game – has pitched 2 innings so far tonight

by shroomer on Jul 6, 2009 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

CD flys out to the wall.

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Jul 6, 2009 5:12 PM CDT reply actions  

in left.

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Jul 6, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

no Ks either

its a good start at least

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 6, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow

Johnny Whittleman has hit another HR… He’s gone from hitting zero to know having three in three official at bats, wow

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 6, 2009 5:46 PM CDT reply actions  

we had heard

that he was swinging the bat well, but his shots seemed to always be right at someone. glad to see that his supposed improvement is actually playing out in the stat lines now.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Jul 6, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't read too much into it

judging by his career #s (this is his 5th yr after all) and his first 3 months this year:
April: ~230
May: 214
 first 25 games in june: 205
Thru 68 games ZERO HR

last 6 -.500
3hr

Which #s do you trust?

by Goyogringo on Jul 6, 2009 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

CD 1-4 no K's!!!!

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Jul 6, 2009 6:22 PM CDT reply actions  

call him backup!!!

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 6, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

NeRa's best game of 2009

No hits, no walks, and 3 K’s through 4.

Fearless forecast: Today was the first and last time that the RedHawks will get shutout with Davis and Smoak in the line-up. A healthy MaxRam would certainly look good in that line-up

by spurdynasty on Jul 6, 2009 7:15 PM CDT reply actions  

BTW, What happened to the guys at hickoryball.blogspot.com?

Nothing new since June 3.

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Jul 6, 2009 7:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Norris and two other guys (one twice)

took Pimentel deep. Pretty miserable outing for him.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 6, 2009 9:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Melo

was even worse.

There's more to the picture than meets the eye.

by tricer on Jul 6, 2009 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bob Hersom on CD - interesting read
Texas demoted Davis to Oklahoma City just two days after promoting Justin Smoak to the same place. Both players are first basemen, but Davis has also played third base. So, the RedHawks’ weekly plan is to play Davis three games at third, two games at first and two games as DH, with Smoak playing five games at first and two as DH.

LINK

by shroomer on Jul 6, 2009 10:22 PM CDT reply actions  

?

why is it so bad that Davis actually gets better at 3B?? He’s already a good defender at 3B, why not give ourselves options if Mike gets hurt?

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 6, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

whoops meant to say he's already a good defender at 1st

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 6, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry

meant that response to be for Melo

by Brett Perryman on Jul 6, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why such a convoluted plan?

Jesus H. Christ, if you want Davis to go down and fix his bat, why in the god damn hairy hell would you have him playing such a fucknosed combo of fielding both corners and DHing. Dammit, keep it simple, play 1B and hit, kid. Here endeth the rant.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jul 6, 2009 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

i really dont understand why its such a huge deal?

who cares, really, i mean he’s played 3B before, its just a way to get him reps. Why does this matter?

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 6, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because

I want him working on hitting, not a different defensive position every day.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jul 6, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

its not going to matter

he’s played there before.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 6, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why take that chance?

Like I said, keep it simple.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jul 6, 2009 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

How did I miss that?

Weird because something got me out of bed to look in again. I was genuinely thinking of his walk rate.

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Jul 6, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Garner

Good grief…

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Jul 6, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

And what happens next.

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Jul 6, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

did he jinx it?

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 6, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

Garner verbalized the no-hitter.

Maybe he’d been doing that all night, mercy.

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Jul 6, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Way to go, Shroom!

Beware the high hard one the next time you show up at Frisco for a Kiker start.

by spurdynasty on Jul 6, 2009 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm

box and his line don’t match at the moment, something missing on the recap?

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jul 6, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Two Majewskis in this game

Not related. Weird.

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Jul 6, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Elsewhere in the box

Moreland 2 for 3 with a HR and a BB, nice.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jul 6, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep, and timmy had a heck of a game in the 1st one

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 6, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

ha, Tatusko had a no hitter through 4

then gave up a single… thats awesome on back to back starts

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 6, 2009 11:10 PM CDT reply actions  

yeah

I was just about to post an alert but he gave up the hit in the 5th.
He just now cruised thru the top of the 6th with 3 groundouts. Dude is on a roll.

by shroomer on Jul 6, 2009 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

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