WTF? Tonights Lineup

OMG THIS IS JUST FUCKING FUCKTASTC!

FUCKING STICKS.

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by iorange555 on Jul 6, 2009 7:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Well I don't think anyone ever actually said Hammy wouldn't be in CF did they?

We just kind of assumed it. And normally that would be ok.. but i mean come on murph is 9 for his last 18, he NEEDS to be in the lineup vs righties right now.

Anyway, when I saw this post I was thinking Kinsler would be sitting.

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by DSheppard on Jul 6, 2009 7:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, he really needs to sit right now.

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by Kinslerhomer on Jul 6, 2009 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Murph since may

.333/.382/.570

Wow.

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by DSheppard on Jul 6, 2009 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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by DJCahill on Jul 6, 2009 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don't ignore the gut

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by RangerMad on Jul 6, 2009 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

We have to figure out if Jones is gonna be a part of this team post trade-deadline.

by tyd3311 on Jul 6, 2009 7:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

ha ha ha

You need to see more PAs by Jones to figure that out?

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by RangerMad on Jul 6, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

hmmm

Manager Ron Washington reports that Vicente Padilla has told team brass that he will be ready to pitch Wednesday. The Rangers will likely push everyone back a day, so Tommy Hunter will pitch Thursday, Derek Holland on Friday, Scott Feldman on Saturday and Kevin Millwood on Sunday. That is subject to change.

Washington also revealed that David Murphy could find his way into the picture at first base. Hank Blalock will get the lion’s share of the work, with Andruw Jones getting a shot. Murphy will work at first base, a position he played in high school, before jumping into a game.

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by Kinslerhomer on Jul 6, 2009 7:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

David Murphy could find his way into the picture at first base.

me likey, we shoulda thought of that 1st fellas

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by Jayslick on Jul 6, 2009 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Interesting

He would appear to have the tools – LH, height, good hands. Wonder if he’s ever played there?

(I watch the games)

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by Ed Coffin on Jul 6, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ironically, yes

I was playing poker with a friend of his last night and he said when they played on the same team (dont remember if it was HS or college, I assume college) murphy every once in a while played first base, but not a ton because the guy I was talking to was a big guy and not very athletic but he said he could hit.

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by rchawk12 on Jul 6, 2009 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I thought of it

but since he’s a lefty I didn’t see how it helped.

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by shroomer on Jul 6, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i like it too

it helps if Blalock continues to be relatively cold. We arent forced to play him almost all the time

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by blalock84 on Jul 6, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thats interesting

If they don’t want to DH hamilton much (and I know he hates to DH) then that may be a decent way to get the best bats in the lineup for the short term.

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by DSheppard on Jul 6, 2009 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

vs. Jered Weaver, all-time

Murphy: 1-9, 3 K’s,1 BB
Jones: 0-2, 1 K

Maybe he’s just guessing Jones is better suited to bat against Weaver. I don’t know.

by cmkelly29 on Jul 6, 2009 7:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

well

i guess that is something…so i will watch with an open mind instead of going off on wash

by kumizi on Jul 6, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yea, i mean

Murph would probably be the last guy id sit, but i dont think any of those guys are bad options.

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by blalock84 on Jul 6, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i don't think those tiny sample sizes...

in which neither one of them has done anything off Weaver in 10 and 2 PAs against him should trump the fact that Weaver is absolute MURDER against right-handed batters this year (they have hit .178/.235/.249 against him in 202 PA) but is quite pedestrian against left-handed batters (which have hit .262/.322/.481 off him in 237 PA).

So all we really know is that Jones has heated up lately, that Murphy is definitely hot, and that Weaver is MASSIVELY tougher against right-handed batters than against left-handed ones. So playing Andruw over Murphy tonight makes absolutely no sense in my book.

by brianphayes on Jul 6, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Word

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by Joey Matschulat on Jul 6, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bingo

I hate that batter against pitcher record stuff.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jul 6, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

and lo and behold...

…the 3 guys in the lineup who batted left-handed went 4 for 9 off Weaver.

Andruw, Byrd, and Cruz combined to go what…0 for 8 with 1 walk, i believe?

Given the grossly extreme split Weaver has against righties compared to lefties, Murphy should have been in the lineup ahead of any of those guys and it should’ve been a no-brainer. And that’s without even taking into consideration the fact that he’s been on fire lately and was coming off a 3 for 3 performance. Inexcusable managing by Warsh.

by brianphayes on Jul 7, 2009 4:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Murphy...

I agree that Murphy should be playing tonight, but man seeing the name “Hamilton” in the #3 spot makes that look like an actual, formidable line-up. I’ve been missing that feeling.

by Topgun22 on Jul 6, 2009 7:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

In other news...

the NL HR Derby team has been announced…

NEW YORK — Former champion Ryan Howard, Albert Pujols, Prince Fielder and Adrian Gonzalez will represent the National League in the All-Star Home Run Derby next week.

AL participants will be announced later.

by cmkelly29 on Jul 6, 2009 7:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I do want to see Ichiro in the HR derby

by Telegraph on Jul 6, 2009 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If the HR derby really does kill power, I'd love to see Torii Hunter and Juan Rivera in it.

by Inkara1 on Jul 6, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Murphy should not be sitting against any RHP right now

Since his 0-22 start to the season he is putting up numbers similar to what Josh Hamilton did last year against RHP.

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by bigsteve on Jul 6, 2009 7:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Andrew Jones do what he do. David Murphy do what he do. Is this hard to understand or something?

by Brett Perryman on Jul 6, 2009 7:37 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs

heh

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by Kinslerhomer on Jul 6, 2009 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That sir...

earns you a REC!

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by ortonius on Jul 6, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

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by Goyogringo on Jul 6, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

How would you know

he spells Andruw that way by the sound?

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jul 6, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

the one thing i have a real problem with is Hamilton in CF

if wash continues to play Hammy in CF consistently, he will get hurt again… I dont know when we are going to figure this out.

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by blalock84 on Jul 6, 2009 7:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Well Byrd has managed to not run into walls out there.

Obviously Hammy doing so was pure effort and came on fantastic plays, but if he can restrain himself then CF should be ok.

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by DSheppard on Jul 6, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

Get on base or die, Salty.

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by lonestarJon on Jul 6, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i'm just glad

they haven’t extended him yet. i don’t think it’s a good idea until after the year. if he’s lucky, he’ll play in 110 games this year. hopefully he can hit in this second half and bring that ops up to about .880

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by gossamer on Jul 6, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

well, the good thing is that he's likely not gonna cost us as much if we do

IF i were Hamilton, Id be scrambling to get financial security, thats just me though

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by blalock84 on Jul 6, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wonder if

anybody thought of putting Hamilton at first base instead of Murphy?

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by rodcarew on Jul 6, 2009 7:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

just you

Hall of Fame pitcher Nolan Ryan was on the same pitching staff with Danny Darwin during the 1986 through 1988 seasons. Both were described by Milo Hamilton as "tall, tough Texans." It was a source of debate amongst Astros players and fans over who would win in a fight, Ryan or Darwin. Though Astros pitcher Bob Knepper attempted to set up a fight between the two during spring training in 1988, manager Hal Lanier stopped it before it could commence. Many experts, including Astros shortstop Rafael Ramirez, felt that Darwin would win because he "looked like someone no man would want to mess with."

by gossamer on Jul 6, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

no respeck

Hall of Fame pitcher Nolan Ryan was on the same pitching staff with Danny Darwin during the 1986 through 1988 seasons. Both were described by Milo Hamilton as "tall, tough Texans." It was a source of debate amongst Astros players and fans over who would win in a fight, Ryan or Darwin. Though Astros pitcher Bob Knepper attempted to set up a fight between the two during spring training in 1988, manager Hal Lanier stopped it before it could commence. Many experts, including Astros shortstop Rafael Ramirez, felt that Darwin would win because he "looked like someone no man would want to mess with."

by gossamer on Jul 6, 2009 7:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Kinsler

vs Weaver in 26 PAs .208/ .269/ .250 . And he is 0 for July. So of course it makes since to start him and sit a red hot David Murphy.

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by RangerMad on Jul 6, 2009 7:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

just so its clear

sitting Kinsler wouldnt have any effect on whether or not we’d sit Murph

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by blalock84 on Jul 6, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i think he's pointing out

that wash is sitting a hot hitter and playing a cold hitter. but c’mon, who would you rather have out there? kinsler or vizquel?

Hall of Fame pitcher Nolan Ryan was on the same pitching staff with Danny Darwin during the 1986 through 1988 seasons. Both were described by Milo Hamilton as "tall, tough Texans." It was a source of debate amongst Astros players and fans over who would win in a fight, Ryan or Darwin. Though Astros pitcher Bob Knepper attempted to set up a fight between the two during spring training in 1988, manager Hal Lanier stopped it before it could commence. Many experts, including Astros shortstop Rafael Ramirez, felt that Darwin would win because he "looked like someone no man would want to mess with."

by gossamer on Jul 6, 2009 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Vizquel

2 for 5 vs Weaver.

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by RangerMad on Jul 6, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

2 for 5

well that seals it.

Hall of Fame pitcher Nolan Ryan was on the same pitching staff with Danny Darwin during the 1986 through 1988 seasons. Both were described by Milo Hamilton as "tall, tough Texans." It was a source of debate amongst Astros players and fans over who would win in a fight, Ryan or Darwin. Though Astros pitcher Bob Knepper attempted to set up a fight between the two during spring training in 1988, manager Hal Lanier stopped it before it could commence. Many experts, including Astros shortstop Rafael Ramirez, felt that Darwin would win because he "looked like someone no man would want to mess with."

by gossamer on Jul 6, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Can we please send Borbon back down so he can get regular playing time?

If we have to have a fast black guy on the bench, bring up Boggs (if healthy) or Golson.

by uthornfan on Jul 6, 2009 8:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

6th OF, if necessary, should be Gentry

Boggs is neither fast nor healthy.

I agree that it makes no sense to let Borbon waste away on the bench as sporadically used pinch-runner/pinch-fielder guy. If you have to have that guy on the bench, then give that job to Craig Gentry who, despite being a whiter guy than I am, is probably the fastest guy in the organization and probably about the same level CF defender as Borbon or Golson. The difference is that Borbon and Golson (to an increasingly lesser and lesser degree perhaps), as 23 y/o former 1st round draft picks in AAA still have projectability as prospects and a ceiling of being more than just a 5th/6th OF in he majors and so they need to be playing everyday somewhere at this point in their development stage.

Gentry, OTOH, has the precise skill set that Wash states Borbon is being kept on the active roster for. But as a 25 y/o who’s never really hit anywhere and has yet to advance beyond AA, hr clearly has no future in the majors as anything more than the exact type of 5th/6th OF Washington apparently needs available on his bench. So why not just go ahead and let Gentry do it and let the actual prospects play everyday in the minors.

But until either MaxRam, Smoak, or C.Davis is deemed ready to contribute at the major league level, that roster spot really needs to go to Steve German, who can play all the positions and would actually be a significant upgrade over Blalock as the starting 1B against any left-handed starter.

by brianphayes on Jul 6, 2009 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sombody needs to take Ron's favorite toy away.

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by lonestarJon on Jul 6, 2009 8:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Byrd?

Jones? Other?

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by RangerMad on Jul 6, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jones

If he’s really going to start taking playing time away from Murphy against RHP’s now, he’s being overused. Murphy should probably be leading off against RHP’s, and he’s been pretty hot of late.

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by lonestarJon on Jul 6, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

How many times has Jones started over someone clearly more deserving that doesn't need rest?

Including today I can think of.. one.

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by DSheppard on Jul 6, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Murphy needs rest?

He just sat against Kazmir on Friday.

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by lonestarJon on Jul 6, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I clearly said murphy should be starting in this thread multiple times

The one time would be today.

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by DSheppard on Jul 6, 2009 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

*although Im sure a combing through of each game could reveal a few other occurence

but im just saying.. this is not a situation where Wash has been snubbing far more deserving players routinely for AJ.

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by DSheppard on Jul 6, 2009 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, that's because he hasn't had a more deserving player to snub with Hamilton out

Unless you count his chaining of Borbon to the bench (which I do, myself).

Hamilton comes back and his first move is to DH Andruw over him or Murphy… not good. Maybe not a trend yet, but not good.

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by lonestarJon on Jul 6, 2009 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lets see how it plays out..

right now its one game.

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by DSheppard on Jul 6, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I could go for

Andrus and Murphy sharing leadoff duties depending on the pitcher.

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by RangerMad on Jul 6, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i dont get the jones hate around here

he’s been good against both lefties and righties, he’s shown power, and he’s been one of the few guys on the team that takes a walk. the one knock against him is that he’s been streaky, but that’s somewhat expected for a part-time player.

i guess it’s understandable to get a tad upset when he takes time away from a hot murphy, whom i would also like to see in the lineup against righties whenever possible. but sheesh jones is hardly some AAA journeyman who needs to be DFA’d. And i dont think his occasional use in lieu of a slightly more deserving player is some giant travesty.

by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Jul 6, 2009 9:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs