Dinner with the Kinslers and Youngs
by Jamey Newberg on Jul 6, 2009 11:04 PM CDT
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Apparently, the Angels and Dodgers have forged an alliance, with Angels fans agreeing to vote for Dodgers outfielder Matt Kemp as long as Dodgers fans agree to vote for Angels third baseman Chone Figgins in the fan balloting for the final player on the AL and NL All-Star Game rosters.
Cute.
One day into the vote, Ian Kinsler has an early but narrow lead over Brandon Inge and fellow finalists Figgins, Adam Lind, and Carlos Pena for the final AL roster spot.
Here's some added incentive for the Newberg Report community to help send Kinsler to St. Louis:
If Kinsler wins the vote, Cristina Barbosa-Young and Tess Kinsler and their husbands Michael and Ian will treat one Newberg Report reader who voted, and a guest, to dinner at Bob’s Steak and Chop House in Dallas on an upcoming off-day.
Unlike the standard All-Star Game vote that concluded last week, there is no limit to the number of times you can vote to help Kinsler hold his lead to become the 33rd player on the AL roster.
Here’s where you go on MLB.com to vote: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090706&content_id=5726034&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
You can also vote by text message if you’re a Sprint, Nextel, or Boost subscriber. To vote by mobile phone, text the word “VOTE” to 1122. To vote for Kinsler, simply text “A3” to 1122.
Voting closes at 3 p.m. our time on Thursday afternoon, so get rolling. Vote a lot of times. Email me at gjsneaker@sbcglobal.net once you’ve voted, and you’ll be entered in the drawing for the dinner with the Young’s and Kinsler’s.
And you can still vote for Kemp on the NL side if you want.
Jamey
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Although I should add
The awesomeness of Bob’s would probably cancel that out.
by brettgardner on Jul 6, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah...
I was thinking the exact same thing.
by snatch attack on Jul 6, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Sweet Jesus
Whoring out himself to try and sneak in as the last player on all-star Roster when he does not even deserve to be on the fuckin team, let alone this damn team almost these days.
How about whoever slaps him in the face and tells him to get his shit together, quit worrying about getting into a all-star game, and worry about not hitting balls longer than 390 feet….up in the air. That person will get a free dinner from Taco Bell from me, provided you don’t order more than 7 dollars worth of food.
by SaltyGoesYard on Jul 7, 2009 8:26 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I'll never understand
why the best player on the team, ARod, Teix, and now Kinsler, draws so much fire.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
Kinsler is not the best player on the Rangers
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
Hamilton and Young
And right now Byrd and Murphy are playing better than Kinsler
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
You need to put down the crack pipe.
seriously, that stuff is bad for you.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
young better than kinsler?
he may be marginally better offensively so far this year, but most would expect that to flip flop. and he is easily less valuable defensively.
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Jul 7, 2009 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Hahahhaha
Young, one of the best players on the team…
Ahahahahaha!
Get on base or die, Salty.
"Young is the Good version of David Eckstein. Grossly overrated because of grit. He can move one step to the right, and a half step to the left whereever you put him in the field." - DJ Cahill
by LSJ on Jul 7, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions
You'll need to go take an impartial look
at Ian’s stats and how this season resembles his 2007 season. It looks to me like 2008 may be his career year. Kinsler is very inconsistent. He is capable of carrying a team for a whole month. Unfortunately, his history shows that he only does it one month per year and this year he did it in April. I seriously doubt Ian finishes the year with an OPS above .800.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
Even if you take 2008 as his career year
Kinsler is a better player than Young. Better bat overall, better defense, better on the basepaths, more hair…
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
OPS above 800?
are you serious? Are you really serious lecturing us about impartiality? If you can’t make reasoned baseball opinions while somebody is going through a slump just STFU.
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
What he said
Kinsler is in the midst of the worst slump of his career and he still has an OPS of .831.
I’m pretty sure he’s not going to be even worse than this for the remainder of the season.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
See, slumps at the beginning of the season
like Murphy had don’t matter. Slumps that exist right now are everything.
Its some new math I am unaware of.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
Evidently
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
What is a slump?
Do they last a week, month, two months? When does a slump become reality? His OPS is being propped up by his hot start in April. Do you think Ian will post another month with an OPS >1.000? I doubt it. That is not his history.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
Do you think that Ian will remain basically hitless the rest of the reason?
Sure the 1.000+ OPS probably isn’t him, but neither is this current iteration.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
Of course not
But I can easily see him putting up a .750 ops for the rest of the season. And lets remember that he hits leadoff. His OPS needs to include a higher OBP and not just be supported by a high SLG.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
.750 OPS
so he will put up the worst season of his career? Lets say he gets 373 PA’s the rest of the yr. Average .750 over the rest of the yr with his current .831 and you have a .790 OPS. So this year will be his WORST yr?
by Michael Cave on Jul 7, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
"So this year will be his WORST yr?"
Possible. He is in the middle of his worse slump he has ever had in his career. A .790 OPS is pretty close to his 2007 OPS.
Also, he admits to being fatigued and that being tired effects his hitting. Ian has never played a full ML season. Might he get tired again in Sept?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
He looks bigger and more fit this year.
I doubt he breaks down.
Feel free to bet.
"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem
by inactive lsb user on Jul 7, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
He's not gonna hit
a 750 OPS the rest of the year, unless we are talking MY instead of Kinsler. This slump will end for Kinsler.
As far as him hitting leadoff, thats on RW. Kinsler should be hitting 3rd, the natural place for the best hitter on the team.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
Hopefully
it already did with that HR last night. He should be hitting 3rd or 5th right now. I would have loved to see RW put borbon up there for a game or two but it looks like we are a little ahead of ourselves with Borbon because RW isnt playing him so far this yr.
by Michael Cave on Jul 7, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
I would rather see Ian
go 2-3 with a BB. That HR last night is likely to reinforce his approach at the plate whuch hasn’t been working very well lately.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
Yeah, stop hitting that damned long ball, Ian!
Work a walk, dammit!
"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem
by inactive lsb user on Jul 7, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
He came back to close out 2007 strong
A season in which he took the same first-half pattern in as he has this year, as you alluded to. Up until recently, that was Kinsler’s only truly bad first half.
He’s definitely mired in a deep slump right now, and his overall numbers are propped up by his first three weeks, but I think he’s a good enough player that he can be expected to bounce back as he did in ’07.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"Young is the Good version of David Eckstein. Grossly overrated because of grit. He can move one step to the right, and a half step to the left whereever you put him in the field." - DJ Cahill
2008 was his career year.
I predicted that before this season even started. But he’s still been the most valuable player on this team in terms of WAR. He’s been roughly twice as valuable as MY.
Although Young is still fourth on the team and somehow the most valuable offensive player overall this year, his shitty defense comes close to canceling out the offensive value – by comparison Elvis has actually been worth just hair more than MY overall.
As far as talent goes, I’d say Kinsler is still tops as far as both defensive, offensive and baserunning skills go over Hamilton and Young. Thanks to Elvis and Cruz, I’d probably say MY is a distant 5th on this team in terms of raw talent, although that’s just a subjective assessment by me.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"Young is the Good version of David Eckstein. Grossly overrated because of grit. He can move one step to the right, and a half step to the left whereever you put him in the field." - DJ Cahill
citing murphy
the irony is hilarious
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
enough did
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
I admit that I hated Tex
but I respected him as a player. He just looks like a miserable person while on the field. He looked as if he’d be happier anywhere else on earth than in a Rangers uniform. Yeah, I don’t like that guy at all.
Always liked ARod.
Go Rice Owls!
i like both of those guys to an extent while they were here
and producing. but the events leading up to each of their departures definitely made me sour on them. and the fact that theyve both gone on to the yankees and been somewhat dismissive of the rangers organization since then has fortified my dislike for them.
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Jul 8, 2009 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude, take a chill pill
If you think he doesn’t deserve to be on the All Star team, fine. But if you honestly think he doesn’t deserve to start on the Rangers, I’m not sure what you’re smoking.
Did you ever think that maybe this is just a good opportunity for the Youngs and Kinslers to continue building good will and connections with the hardcore fans? I think it’s pretty cool.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
SGY
Just says shit like that to get a response these days, I’m pretty sure.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"Young is the Good version of David Eckstein. Grossly overrated because of grit. He can move one step to the right, and a half step to the left whereever you put him in the field." - DJ Cahill
by LSJ on Jul 7, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions
I think it's cause he's a dumbass
fairly confident actually
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
Will Norm be there?
‘Cause I’m not going unless Norm’s going.
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
by TheJeezus on Jul 7, 2009 10:22 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
FYI-- when voting
You have to uncheck the “[ ] I want to receive junk mail from MLB” check box every time you vote, if you do not want to recv the messages. Sneaky.
meh
I receive junk mail from them anyway. It’s not that much. Will slow things down a lot if you uncheck it every time
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
haha
You can always unsubscribe later in one fell swoop.
"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem
by inactive lsb user on Jul 7, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Good to know, because I voted like 50-60 times last night
Just went back and unchecked it. Suck it, MLB.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"Young is the Good version of David Eckstein. Grossly overrated because of grit. He can move one step to the right, and a half step to the left whereever you put him in the field." - DJ Cahill
i think it's the honor system
you email newberg saying you’ve voted, and get put into the drawing
exploding highfive
And if you have time to email him
You have time to vote at least once for Kinsler.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Well its pretty simple to see what's wrong with kinsler
I don’t really know if there is a way for someone to tell him that a hit is just as good as a hr on some nights but I was at the game last night and he just tried to hit home runs on every at bat missed first one though thats why he keep poppin the damn ball up.
you know there is another side of the field Ian
Nobody punished like Earl and No one was nastier than Ryan
i have voted
for kinsler and sondoval at least 50 times.
no interest in dinner with those people though. i’ll let some other fan enjoy that.
Hall of Fame pitcher Nolan Ryan was on the same pitching staff with Danny Darwin during the 1986 through 1988 seasons. Both were described by Milo Hamilton as "tall, tough Texans." It was a source of debate amongst Astros players and fans over who would win in a fight, Ryan or Darwin. Though Astros pitcher Bob Knepper attempted to set up a fight between the two during spring training in 1988, manager Hal Lanier stopped it before it could commence. Many experts, including Astros shortstop Rafael Ramirez, felt that Darwin would win because he "looked like someone no man would want to mess with."
they ought to give away
a dinner with sandoval, just for the spectacle of it
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Jul 7, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Brings new meaning to the term plate discipline.
Supporting San Francisco Dugout since 2005 and Manny Burriss since 2006, and bringing you all your California League needs since 2009.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 7, 2009 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm voting
For Kinsler and Kemp. I used 90% of my iphone battery voting during the game last night. Hopefully Kinsler gets in, if for no other reason than the Rangers should have more players there.
this too
There also has been an alliance among many Giants and Rangers fans on Twitter to keep their guys in the lead. That was only part of the Twitter impact that — not surprisingly — has been felt in this year’s Final Vote campaigning. The twitpic of Uncle Sam with a “Vote Sandoval” message has been re-tweeted over and over to the nth degree. There was Doug Mientkiewicz, tweeting during rehab as @Dougiebaseball on behalf of Kemp, his teammate.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090707&content_id=5741714&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
Hall of Fame pitcher Nolan Ryan was on the same pitching staff with Danny Darwin during the 1986 through 1988 seasons. Both were described by Milo Hamilton as "tall, tough Texans." It was a source of debate amongst Astros players and fans over who would win in a fight, Ryan or Darwin. Though Astros pitcher Bob Knepper attempted to set up a fight between the two during spring training in 1988, manager Hal Lanier stopped it before it could commence. Many experts, including Astros shortstop Rafael Ramirez, felt that Darwin would win because he "looked like someone no man would want to mess with."
Next time you see Mientkiewicz, punch him in the crotch.
Supporting San Francisco Dugout since 2005 and Manny Burriss since 2006, and bringing you all your California League needs since 2009.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 7, 2009 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions
If I vote for Kinsler
and he wins and I win the drawing, will they fly me back to DFW?
Go Rice Owls!
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