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A.L. Wildcard Standings


American League Wild Card Standings

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Boston 62 48 .563 0 Lost 6
Texas 62 48 .563 0 Won 1
Tampa Bay 61 50 .549 1.5 Lost 1
Seattle 58 53 .522 4.5 Won 1
Chicago 57 55 .508 6 Lost 1
Minnesota 54 57 .486 8.5 Lost 1
Toronto 53 57 .481 9 Won 2
Oakland 49 62 .441 13.5 Won 1
Cleveland 48 63 .432 14.5 Won 1
Baltimore 46 65 .414 16.5 Lost 2
Kansas City 43 68 .387 19.5 Lost 1

(updated 8.10.2009 at 11:11 AM CDT)



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I know it doesn't matter

but I’d rather the Rangers be listed above Boston. We have beat them head to head. Either way, this weekend could go a long way for us in deciding our playoff chances against Boston, and if anything we gain even more confidence coming down to the final month and a half of the season.

We’re about to get Nelly and Kinsler back, and Hamilton is starting to hit. This thing could be on the upswing!

Go Rangers! Watch for a waiver wire gem.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Aug 10, 2009 11:34 AM CDT reply actions  

I think it is done alphabetically

Head-to-head is irrelevant for purposes of standings.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 10, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Head to head isn't a tie breaker for the Wild Card?

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Aug 10, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope

1 game playoff regardless.

by cmkelly29 on Aug 10, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep

i looked it up yesterday, coin flip.

for those who want to see the rangers listed on top, go to yahoo’s wildcard listings heh.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Aug 10, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's a coin flip

In early September, there is a series of coin flips based on all the possibilities (for both division and wild card one-game playoff games).

by Darrell McKown on Aug 10, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

Didn’t realize that Boston had lost 6 straight (4 to the Yanks I knew). Texas had only gone 3-3 in their last 6.

I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.

by DerekSTheRed on Aug 10, 2009 11:35 AM CDT reply actions  

I still want the division

God, I want to kick the Angels out of the playoffs so much.

Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on Aug 10, 2009 11:36 AM CDT reply actions  

amen

i don’t want Boston or Detroit in the playoffs either

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Aug 10, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

i dont

want another 1st round playoff series with the yankees!!!!!

There's something spiritual about baseball — like Mother Nature," Garrido said. "You don't mess with it. And I think before a player can really believe in it, he has to experience it."

by dmurphnextrusygreer on Aug 10, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

I want that.

And I want to be up by 1 in game 5 in the bottom of the 9th, for Jeter to get to second, and for Feliz to come in and get the last two outs by striking out A-Rod and Tex.

Feliz striking out Tex to end the series would probably be the best moment in my life.

by philkid3 on Aug 10, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Uh

I would have to watch the next round from the hospital.

"I’m out there to do well, not just to serve cookies to guys..." Jason Grilli

by Pocket Ninja on Aug 10, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

x
Feliz striking out Tex to end the series would probably be the best moment in my life.

+1000000000000000000000000

After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL

by MayurP on Aug 10, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm so glad to know I'm not the only one who has had

these thoughts….the only difference is that I wanted Elvis to hit a slow roller (in the 9th inning of the deciding game) to A-Rod who bobbles the ball but makes the throw to Tex…he drops the throw allowing the runner on 3B to score the winning run…then Feliz could strike out A-Rod and Tex…

"I'll explain, and I'll be sure to use small words so that you'll be sure to understand. You wart-hog-faced-buffoon!"

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Aug 10, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

how 'bout Feliz throws 101mph to Tex, who foul tips it off the plate with enough english

that it skips right back into his grapes. He then keels over and vomits from the pain

we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"

by eclou on Aug 10, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sold!

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 10, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

If the Rangers don't pull this out...

It’s looking like it could be an AL playoff field of BOS @ LAA/ DET @ NYY.

I can’t think of anything worse.

by ghostofErikThompson on Aug 10, 2009 11:44 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Easy there on the Angels.

The MF Yankees are the bitch of the LAAAAAA Angels and I wouldn’t mind them doing some dirty work for us before the ALCS.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 10, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

so, who would you guys prefer to play in the playoffs if given the choice?

Detroit – who has owned us
New York – probably the best team
Boston – slumping now, but definitely a good team

Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball

by willamos2 on Aug 10, 2009 11:41 AM CDT reply actions  

new york

definitely. i want revenge.

by blakethegr8 on Aug 10, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yup

I want the Rangers to beat them till they fart blood.

Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on Aug 10, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

This

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Aug 10, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Detroit, no question.

Verlander, Becket, CiCi are all incredibly tough, but I think NYY and Boston go deeper in terms of blowput arms in the rotation, plus the back end of their pens scare me, whereas Detroit’s has me licking my handsome model-esque chops.

The AL East teams (gotta include TB in this, btw) are the class of MLB, imo.

Any chance to NOT face them and you’ve gotta take it, no matter what Detroit did to us early in the season.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Aug 10, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

detroit

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Aug 10, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think it matters.

J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM

Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.

by LSJ on Aug 10, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just can't get over

the Rangers having the lowest runs allowed in the AL.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Aug 10, 2009 11:42 AM CDT reply actions  

They have the third lowest ERA. What's that old joke...

If the Rangers had a league average pitching staff….

Oh, wait, Rangers’ FIP is 4th from the bottom. So, it ain’t the pitching. But, FIP is flawed, so you all are dumb. The Rangers need an Ace. Holland is their Ace.

I admit my brain is scrambled by the fact the Rangers have given up the fewest runs in the AL.

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on Aug 10, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

So what does it mean when Feliz has a - 1.94 FIP

like he had last week after his first outing v Oak?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 10, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

philkid, Granted it was SSS but

does it literally mean he was taking runs away from the A’s?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 10, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes

thats how good Feliz is

by Kambala7 on Aug 10, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

No.

FIP is scaled for a league-specific factor, and with Feliz, it came out looking that way because, well, the rest of the league does not avoid walks or home runs while throwing strike outs at that rate. It’s a statistical anomoly and one to be marveled at but given no useful weight.

by philkid3 on Aug 10, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

So I guess FIP

has some of the same issues Game Scores have.

Some LSBers like to knock Game Scores and cite Lackey’s start in May that lasted only two pitches.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 10, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, it has the issue of small sample size wonkiness.

This is something they have in common with every stat, especially those devised to give you a more accurate and thorough picture of events.

by philkid3 on Aug 10, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thought so.

Gracias for your explanation.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 10, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

So now you're a fan of what philkid has to say?

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Aug 10, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

All stats have SSS issues.

I like FIP as a generalized indicator in certain cases, but it definately has weaknesses to it.

I prefer tRA for comparison purposes because it actually looks at batted ball types.

Both of these stats have significant issues with them — not all ground balls are created equal..

Game Scores are interesting for a retrospective look IMO but do not provide a particularly strong forward-looking perspective due to it’s construction.

by Trickman on Aug 10, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Part of every starting pitcher's job

is to not F up a game, especially in the early innings and I think that is what Game Scores help define (although that’s not all GS do). So many of the Ranger problems the last few years have come because the team was down 6-1 in the 3rd inning.

Lackey had something like a 46 Game Score when he was tossed from that game in May.

I think it can be argued that Lackey didn’t do much personally to F up that game other than tax the LAAA bully (which was a terrible thing to do) but as far as his actual performance goes, he didn’t do much to hurt the Angels that day and his Game Score reflects that.

I’m not knocking FIP but I think it’s something that should be used as a part of the blend of info and not all encompassing.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 10, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

all stats should be used

in context. But the FIP bashing around here is silly, no one around here is trumpeting FIP as the one true stat and as something to be used without looking at anything else. Every time someone brings up FIP now, several folks jump in to bash it as if that were the case.

The game score bashing is a bit overdone, too.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Aug 10, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

FIP is kind of like OPS to me

its easy to find and easy to understand and a pretty good representation of how well a pitcher has pitched, but it doesnt tell you more than just a surface level value of a guy. I’ll probably always use it simply b.c its easy enouh to understand

by Kambala7 on Aug 10, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Partially agree

FIP needs to be incorporated with other stats to be really meaningful, but it gives some insight into how a pitcher performs over-time and can be compared easily with ERA and tRA to see generally how much the pitcher has benefitted from defense and from luck.

Game Scores give you the info on how a pitcher did in any given game, but the average Game Score over a series of games does not give as much information toward future performance as each score is based on a relatively small sample size (<= 9 IP).

What this gives you is a more variable statistic that does not converge well with additional time, giving you relatively-weaker predictive ability going forward. On the other hand, a pitcher’s FIP or tRA for any given game is not particularly informative (see: Feliz’s first game) from a realistic standpoint.

His FIP was negative because FIP is normalized to ERA based on generalized values of K’s (reduces FIP), BB’s (increases FIP), and HR’s (increases FIP).
Having a perfect 100% K rate is an extreme outlier that “breaks” FIP, because that would result in a 0.00 ERA, therefore the FIP should theoretically be 0.00, but the “fit” does not predict that due to the extremeness of the situation and the resultant linear weights being applied.

Game Score is designed for a retrospective look at how well a pitcher performed in any given game, so it is more friendly toward this small-sample size quandry. It was set up as an expansion on the “Quality Start” statistic to be more informative.

For any given game, pulling the Game Score will give you a general indicator for how that pitcher pitched, but it fails to take into detailed account how much of the pitcher’s success was luck or defense.

As such, pulling the average Game Scores for a season with IP totals is simply not as informational to future production as FIP or tRA + IP totals.

by Trickman on Aug 10, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, his ERA+ is only 234. Greinke's was at 1179 earlier this year.

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on Aug 10, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yessir.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 10, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's going to break up a Holland no-hit bid in the ninth

thats just the way his year is going against our pitchers

by Kambala7 on Aug 10, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree.

Just trying to get across the point that the Rangers’ world is upside down and it’s hard to get a bearing on what will happen going foward.

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on Aug 10, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

WTF?

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on Aug 10, 2009 11:43 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm really proud of you, Adam.

Wild Card Standings!!!

I do have a quibble, why are we listed behind Boston?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 10, 2009 11:43 AM CDT reply actions  

My bad

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 10, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just noticed this.

But we’re actually ahead of the Angels by 3rd order record. Don’t know why I’m surprised, because that does, in fact, sound like the Angels.

Only 5th in the league, though.

by philkid3 on Aug 10, 2009 11:44 AM CDT reply actions  

I printed out the standings

and have kissed them repeatedly.

Way to not lurk and instead shit all over yourself during your first fanshot.

-FirebatM3 to Ryan2907. 6/3/09.

by SarasotaRanger on Aug 10, 2009 11:47 AM CDT reply actions  

You don't want to know what I did on my printout...

:-O

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 10, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

With apologies to Rodney

So-

First-place (in the wild card) motherfucking Texas Rangers, anyone?

Officially gay for Neftali Feliz

by RCCook on Aug 10, 2009 11:47 AM CDT reply actions  

I likey

:)

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 10, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Where would you play him?

I think we have enough guys who can’t hit lefties already.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 10, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

yea, i know, just throwing it out there

maybe give him some DH chances ahead of AJ against RH

by Kambala7 on Aug 10, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

You want to replace one of our best sluggers with Aubrey Huff?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 10, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

just against some righties, also to help Blalock out

he really wouldnt help that much, just figured if he could be had for real cheap, it wouldnt be a bad bat to have

by Kambala7 on Aug 10, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

People

have an absolutely irrational hatred of Andruw Jones. They will make moves where they trade away significant prospects to get a downgrade at the position.

It’s the damnedest thing.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Aug 10, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, AJ is a polarizing figure here at LSB

much like Ron Washington, CJ Wilson, Michael Young, Taylor Teagarden, Ian Kinsler, David Murphy, Salty, Marlon Byrd, Dusty Tits, and Eddie Guardado

by Telegraph on Aug 10, 2009 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Huh?

Andruw Jones OPS vs. RHP = .878
Aubrey Huff OPS vs. RHP = .768

by Darrell McKown on Aug 10, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

alright, so maybe just blalock

this isnt gonna happen anyways, so sorry for posting

by Kambala7 on Aug 10, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Division leaders on May 6

Toronto, Kansas City, Seattle

It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin

by txranger7 on Aug 10, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah yes, those model orgs in KC and Seattle...

How could we forget??

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 10, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've got one thing to say...

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by bhudson on Aug 10, 2009 2:44 PM CDT reply actions  

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