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I had the flu way before having the flu was cool

by TagDon'tTweet on Aug 13, 2009 3:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Joy, Joy.

That was a lot of fun to watch, even with the Cleveland feed.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 13, 2009 3:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Am I crazy?

I thought the DET/BOS score was reported 3-0 with back to back HRs in teh 7th (one by Gerald Laird). SI says 2-0. MLB says 2-0, but with 2 runs scored in the 7th (so it should be 3-0). Did I just hear wrong?

by JShoe on Aug 13, 2009 3:15 PM CDT reply actions  

It's 2-0.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 13, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gerald Laird most defnitely did NOT homer in the 7th.

I happened to turn it on for the 7th and Rayburn homered then OMFT popped up to the warning track.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Aug 13, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's one hell of a popup

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 13, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

ya know

i couldve swore i saw 3-0 on MLB.com but i figured i just lost it….interesting

by Horns130 on Aug 13, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

it did say that on Gameday for a second, it was really odd as it said Laird hit a Homer but was out

very confusing

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Aug 13, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Laird

i thought the same thing, Rangers radio reported that Detroit was up 3-0 after a Laird HR, not sure who in the radio booth goofed

by Ryan2907 on Aug 13, 2009 3:54 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Forgot we played early today, but wouldn't have been able to watch anyhow.

But it looks like this Neftali Feliz guy is gonna be good.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Aug 13, 2009 3:16 PM CDT reply actions  

I've been in a meeting all day and just checked the box

Was Feliz’s performance as awesome as his line of 6 faced, 6 retired, 5 on Ks sounds?

"andruw jones hits 3 HRS at LA of Anaheim last nite after hitting zero at LA of LA as Dodger in all of '08. thats nuts." SI_JonHeyman

by WestTxAg06 on Aug 13, 2009 3:16 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Yes. Absolutely.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 13, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup...

And tied a Rangers record with 7 straight K’s in his last 2 appearances.

Solid

by Topgun22 on Aug 13, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

No points for guessing whose record.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 13, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shared Record Actually...

Nolan is the obvious one, if you didn’t watch the game today, you’ll never guess who else holds it.

by Topgun22 on Aug 13, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was my point.

“Tied” indicates “shared,” eh? And it was Ryan’s record…

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 13, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right, but

What I meant was it was already a shared record before Feliz tied it. He is now the 3rd Ranger to accomplish the feat.

by Topgun22 on Aug 13, 2009 6:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Oooooh. Now I'm intrigued.

I’m gonna go with… thinking… thinking… Cordero?

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 13, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Has someone other than Nolan been mentioned?

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 13, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

If so, I've missed it.

Who’s the third guy?

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 13, 2009 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Weird

The MLB.com site for the Rangers lists the following record:

Most Consecutive Strikeouts — 8 Dave Hostetler April 17-21, 1983

http://mlb.mlb.com/tex/history/season_records.jsp

by bafusilier on Aug 13, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd imagine that's strikeouts in consecutive ABs by a batter.

We’re looking for consecutive strikeouts recorded by a pitcher.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 13, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah...that makes more sense...

but it also means that I have no clue as to the mythical third record holder.

by bafusilier on Aug 13, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

its jennings

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by DShep on Aug 13, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

(really)

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Aug 13, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

When?

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 13, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing it was this year.

The online record books wouldn’t have been updated yet.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 13, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

they said it in the broadcast.

looking at the gamelog.. probably somewhere in june 28-30 or april 11-19, but I don’t care enough to go into the specific games and find out for sure.

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by DShep on Aug 13, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

woops I had 5 in a row in my head

eliminates the june games.. looks like april 11th, 13th and 19th.

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by DShep on Aug 13, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't think so.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 13, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jennings left the game April 11 after givin up a walk.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 13, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah i went ahead and went into the play by play and thats not it

well i guarantee you they said on the broadcast it was jennings, it was discussed in the GDT.

no idea when now.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Aug 13, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe you.

I’m just not sure they got it right on the broadcast. There doesn’t seem to be another stretch in his time with the Rangers that would meet the criteria…

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 13, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just listened to that part of the game..

They said Jennings did it over 3 appearances this year but gave no further info.

So yes, it actually does sound like they are mistaken.

Hmm, I’m kind of glad to get his name away from Feliz then. If we are right.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Aug 13, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, Jennings did have six in a row

June 29 to July 3. But those don’t connect to Ks on June 28 or July 5. Unless Baseball Reference’s play-by-play records are wrong, I don’t see any other stretches it could be this season. I think they were wrong on the broadcast.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 13, 2009 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just checked,

and unless I’m missing something, I don’t see when that could have happened. I’m fairly sure it’s not during either of those two stretches.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 13, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gotcha ~ apologies for my confusion.

The Cleveland booth didn’t mention that the record was already shared.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 13, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Must’ve been somebody goofy like Jennings or something.

; )

by Athos on Aug 13, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Off the top of my head, without cheating...

Nolan, I am pretty sure, almost 100% positive.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 13, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

It made grown men in Rangersland weep tears of joy and fall to their knees praising sweet little 8 pound 13 ounce Baseball Jesus.

by Athos on Aug 13, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

And...

It wasn’t all straight heat, lots of very effective offspeed stuff today

by Topgun22 on Aug 13, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

damn!

it was the first time I’ve been able to watch him pitch…and he was absolutely dominant! It really didn’t seem fair for the hitters!
His command and those 3 pitches (fastball, slider, changeup) were freakin’ dominant!!!

The future looks sooooooo sweet with Holland and Feliz heading the rotation.

"The mystery of the beginning of all things is insoluble by us; and I for one must be content to remain an agnostic" - Charles Darwin, you know who he is...

by 8legs2fangs on Aug 13, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Feldman's K/9 is now up to 4.87

And its at 6.41 since the AS Break. Like I’ve been saying, having a low K rate on the season doesn’t mean he can’t improve on it for the future. I don’t think he deserves to win it, but it would be cool to see Feldman get some Cy Young love if he keeps up with the wins.

And man, its great seeing Hamilton hitting again.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Aug 13, 2009 3:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Sean S. just confirmed it on Tha Fan

just asked where’s the Scooter for Cy love, “I mean, the guy might win 16+ games.”

by bhudson on Aug 13, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are there any DFW radio guys that y'all like

for Rangers coverage? I liked Ben and Skin, if you could fight through all the crap… with them gone it seems like nobody can talk intelligently about baseball.

by bhudson on Aug 13, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ben and Skin were pretty good

Not a big fan of anyone else from a baseball standpoint

by eric03tx on Aug 13, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

x

since I don’t follow the radio much, what happened to Ben and Skin? I thought they were the golden children of 105.3 Where did they go?

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by horsedooty on Aug 13, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

They were let go

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Aug 13, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

b and s

thanks.

I soloed in the Mile High Club!

by horsedooty on Aug 13, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Blogs and good baseball analysis websites have rendered much of mainstream

Media coverage of baseball virtually unlistenable/unreadable for me.

Why listen to/read local talk radio/columnist morons who know less about the Rangers’ rotation than I know about Hickory or Spokane’s? Why listen to national guys who still base all Rangers discussion on the “they always have hitting, if only they could find some pitching” premise.

"andruw jones hits 3 HRS at LA of Anaheim last nite after hitting zero at LA of LA as Dodger in all of '08. thats nuts." SI_JonHeyman

by WestTxAg06 on Aug 13, 2009 3:51 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Because I can't surf all day.

Sometimes it’s nice to just listen while I’m working…

by bhudson on Aug 13, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bob and Dan are pretty good

As is Norm.

Kanye, you want to be the voice of this generation? Get in line! It goes me, Obamagirl, the Freecreditreport.com guys, then It's a tie between you-and Crocs.
-Stephen Colbert

by Conjunction on Aug 13, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Surely you jest

Dan knows less about baseball than a sheepherder in outer Mongolia. Bob does make an effort but is usually some overly long analysis of some obscure statistic that is so boring it would make a saber geek cry for mercy

by BEW on Aug 13, 2009 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Remember when Esteban Loaiza won 20 games for the White Sox

and DIDNT win the Cy Young?

Alma para conquistarte, corazón para quererte, y vida para vivirla junto a ti.

by chrisR on Aug 13, 2009 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Mediocre pitchers getting Cy Young votes is really cool.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 13, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don’t hate Scooter because he doesn’t suck as bad as you thought he would Adam. It’s just bad form.

by Athos on Aug 13, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I never thought he'd suck

It is just ludicrous to talk about him as a Cy Young candidate.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 13, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

The man gets a little love from the masses, realistic or not, and you’re getting offended. It’s downright curmudgeonly. I’m worried that all of this winning and good pitching is messing with your head old friend. Spread a little love. It’s okay for Scooter to be a Cy Young guy in the hearts of Rangers fans.

Besides, it’s not like he forced Cat off of second base or something. : D

by Athos on Aug 13, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not talking about him as a Cy Young winner candidate

I’m talking about him getting some non top 3 votes.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Aug 13, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cy Young voting is limited to top 3 votes.

Unless they’ve changed it very recently.

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by thedirkatron on Aug 13, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well then give him some 3rd place votes!!!!

This I did not know though. I thought it was more than that.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Aug 13, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Grienke, Verlander, Beckett, Lester, Halladay, Ci-Ci, E-Jax, F-Her, Weaver, Shield, Garza, Mo Riverra, etc, etc, etc.

I’m sorry, broseph.

I like Scooter too, but there’s no way I could put him among my top 3 pitchers in the AL this season and still be able to look my Dirkareflection in the eye the next morning.

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by thedirkatron on Aug 13, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Halladay got some Cy Young votes his two years with K numbers like Scooters

Why can’t Scooter get some votes? Not win it but a little love is all

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by bigsteve on Aug 13, 2009 3:53 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

He could easily get in the top 3 of voting without deserving any of them though

That’s been done many times before

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Aug 13, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure what your point is

Feldman isn’t deserving of Cy Young consideration, but you just think it’d be cool if he got a vote for someone? What’s so exciting about Feldman getting a vote if (a) its undeserved and (b) he won’t win.

I just don’t get it.

by cstorm15 on Aug 13, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Personally, I'd like to see him get some more recognition for the great work he's done

 And yes, I’d think it’d be cool if he did get some Cy Young love, warranted or not. Just like with the AS Game. I’ll root for somewhat deserving Rangers players to make it in even if they aren’t the best choices.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Aug 13, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought it was top 5 sorry

I could see him getting a couple 5th place votes

But if its just top 3 then no he probably shouldn’t.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 13, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually

Adam was pretty vocal about Scooter starting the year in the rotation rather than the bullpen.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Aug 13, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh for Fuck's Sake

I wouldn’t give him a Cy Young vote but Feldman is not mediocre. Good Lord.

by Black Francis on Aug 13, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think I would

…but I haven’t really given it much thought since I have no vote. Would have to look at all the numbers but I’m assuming there are at least eight guys who are having better years.

by Black Francis on Aug 13, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

AJM hates him some Feldman

I’m going to enjoy reading his blog post in a couple of years titled, “Why I was wrong about Scott Feldman”.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Aug 13, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't hate Feldman

And as I’ve pointed out, I was one of the few people in the ‘07-’08 offseason who wasn’t demanding he be dropped from the 40 man roster.

But he is what he is, a back of the rotation starter, not a Cy Young candidate or someone who is one of the 10-15 best pitchers in the A.L. this year.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 13, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

And don't you want to trade him this off-season?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 13, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

How far do yo uexplore that though?

If you can package him for an ace, you’re talking about packaging him with some more talent off your Major League team. If the other team is rebuilding, they aren’t going to value a guy with 3 years of service time that highly. So how much of your ML team are you going to be willing to get rid of to try and upgrade a playoff rotation (since RA isn’t much of a problem for the Rangers anymore).

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Aug 13, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

What do you think a package...

like Feldman, Murphy, Davis and one of the catchers could bring back this off-season? I’m sure many teams would try to substitute Cruz for Murphy or Smoak for Davis. I would avoid that unless it meant bringing back a true TORP. Which it might.

The only way I think the Rangers should try to deal Feldman is if it was part of a big package for a true ace. He will be too valuble as a back of the rotation type guy on this staff in the next few years otherwise.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Aug 13, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why?

He’s good. The Rangers have quality depth at SP for the first time in recent memory, but it’s not like they can roll out Millwood and a bunch of young guys out there and hope to contend in 2010. You can’t pin your hopes on a resurrected Ben Sheets that is not even part of this organization yet, either.

What would you like them to trade Feldman for? A bat? You could be taking your thumb out of one hole just to put it in another. Don’t see the point. Trade him for a bona fide TORP? At what cost?

I think they’re better off sticking with him. The guy can fucking pitch, and is clearly able to make adjustments.

by Black Francis on Aug 13, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know...

I like Feldman a lot, but if you can put him as one of the main pieces in a package to get a true ace then you have to consider it imo.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Aug 13, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think

that’s the issue. If you buy the premise that you can get a big arm or even an impact bat, it is probably worth doing. I’m just not sure I buy the premise that Scott Feldman + some package of Tier 3 prospects gets you an impact bat or a Front of the rotation arm.

I suspect that he has more value in our rotation than he has trade value, but I guess it doesn’t hurt to dangle him and see if some GM really overvalues him.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Aug 14, 2009 7:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

I tend not to believe

that you receive an impact player in return. I suspect he’s worth more as a back rotation guy who eats innings than whatever we get in return, but maybe I’m wrong.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Aug 13, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Feldman sorta reminds of Esteban Loaiza

sucked at first, and now, after adding a cutter to his repertoire, he’s having a nice run of success. Will hitters figure him out like they did with Loaiza? Chances are that they will.
Hope I’m wrong, though.

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by chrisR on Aug 13, 2009 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I remember that lonely time to be a Feldman fan when you were a supporter

But still, keep downplaying what Feldman has managed to do this year and you’re going to end up having to make an “I was wrong” post. He is far from being one of those “He is what he is” guys. He’s been starting for 2 years, work his ass off, and keeps showing off these great changes he’s made as a pitcher. I don’t see how a 26 year old who’s been starting for 2 years (with plenty of success in that 2nd season) can be labeled like some decent veteran.

The Cy Young thing isn’t so much that he is fully deserving of it, but I do think it would be a nice to see him get some more credit for the great work he’s been doing.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Aug 13, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, you're talking about two entirely seperate issues here.

He absolutely does not need to be getting an Cy Young love. That’s… well, I’m trying to insult people less, so I won’t say how I feel about that idea.

But Feldman is a really impressive player who’s made admirable strides as a pitcher and definitely deserves some love for what he’s been able to accomplish. He’s turned himself into a damn fine mid-rotation pitcher, one who I think will be a key piece for us going forward. You can never have enough LAIE’s, and he might even prove to be a bit better than a LAIE going forward if he continues to improve.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Aug 13, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

But this is MLB 2009.

They love the out of no where kid who over comes (see Hamilton 2008), and he has numbers to back it up (12 wins). A Ranger with 12 wins on Aug. 13 is a bon a vide ace these days. They don’t understand the defense that backs him up. Quoting the devil (ESPN) “This isn’t your fathers’ Rangers.” He’ll get some notice, but not enough to make a difference. Unless he goes 6-0 the rest of the year and shuts out 4 games.

by AceJC on Aug 14, 2009 1:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Feldman's cutter
Getting to the fun stuff, Scott Feldman’s cutter has been worth 22.6 runs, making it the third-most effective offering in baseball among starting pitchers. The only pitch that has been more effective has been Tim Lincecum’s change-up at a ridiculous 28.2 runs, and Clayton Kershaw’s fastball, at 23.5 runs. What makes this development a little more interesting is that Feldman just started using the pitch a year ago — throwing it 13.4% of the time. He’s honed his craft and is now throwing the pitch 30.4% of the time. Only three other starting pitchers throw the cutter more often, and those pitchers are Brian Bannister, Doug Davis and Roy Halladay.

- From the Evolution of Scott Feldman

Similar to a couple years ago. I just have a really hard time not holding on to Feldman (unless we can get a king’s ransom for him).

by rcreative on Aug 13, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

more like his changeup and curve

i dont think anyone has even hit either of those into fair play. His FB sets that up of course.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Aug 13, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Pitch values:
Fastball – 0.4 runs above average, or 0.63 runs/100 thrown.
Curve – 0.6 runs above average, or a crazy 6.56 runs/100 thrown.
Change – 1.0 runs above average, or an insane 16.35 runs/100 thrown.

Among all MLB pitchers, the change ranks third behind Damaso Marte’s 23.38 and Jose Valverde’s 16.35. The curve ranks 13th.

Wow.

by Outworlder47 on Aug 13, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

yea, i mean i figured those pitches are way, way up there

its just impossible to be ready for that if throws it near the zone

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Aug 13, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, the fastball deserves a good deal of the credit

They are good pitches with nice movement no doubt, but they are a lot harder to hit after you just saw a 101 mph fastball.

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by DShep on Aug 13, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

exactly

but again, that just kind of proves 101 FBs are special, but not unhittable… its when you throw the offspeed stuff off that.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Aug 13, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 13, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking of questioning spots...

What will it take from Dusty for you to let go of your Niphate? :)

by rcreative on Aug 13, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

career ERA under 5.5

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Aug 13, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

although it is possible

I wasn’t a big feldman fan coming into the year.. and though there are arguments (above, heh) that he isn’t that great I at least recognize hes a lot better than I thought.

Coming around on Hunter too.

Sinkerballers… bit 30 times shy forever. Though obviously both Feldman and Hunter are using other pitches a lot these days.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Aug 13, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nippert

For me the guy has always had the raw stuff, so my hope it that Magic Mike can help him put it together mentally.

by rcreative on Aug 13, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK? You don't say.

I find it odd that AJM fully uses peripheral stats to downplay the contributions of the starts (which very well may be accurate), but has mocked people for bashing eddie or jennings and being fine with replacing them when the same stats say they both suck.

Obviously I went off on a tangent.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Aug 13, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would like to see what AJM has to say on his current stats

None of which shows him to be a bottom of the rotation guy.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Aug 13, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

His current stats

show a 4th starter on a good run (by FIP – 4.48, xFIP – 4.83, and tRA – 5.55) aided a bit by a slightly high strand rate and low BaBIP. Feldman has been terrific this year, and I would love to see him as the team’s 3rd or 4th starter next year, but it is certainly not out of line for Adam to call him a back of the rotation starter.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Aug 14, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's all number 3 starter material

And his tRA as a starter isn’t 5.55.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Aug 14, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whatever

he’s having a very nice year, but I think it’s pretty foolish to keep thinking he’s suddenly going to strike out more batters. He very well could be a 3rd starter going forward without striking a lot of guys out but any talk of Cy Young votes is still pretty ridiculous.

I’m very glad he’s doing what he’s doing, and I’ll be very glad if he’s doing it next year, too. I no one is signed or traded for he’s the default 2nd starter next spring behind Millwood. I’d rather see him as the 3rd or 4th.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Aug 14, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

??

Zack Greinke, Roy Halladay, and Justin Verlander would probably like to talk to you…

"You'll meet them again on their long journey to the middle." -Lester Bangs

by BAC on Aug 13, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

with his curveball development, Ks will come

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Aug 13, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

so we're saying that he's a solid 3 yeah?

or at least the potential of a solid 3, maybe an average 2?

I had the flu way before having the flu was cool

by TagDon'tTweet on Aug 13, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

yea, i really think he has a chance with a developed curve to become

a solid 3. Getting his KRate around 6 per with his GB tendencies and strike throwing ability he’s got a good chance to be a solid 3. Of course, he could still be stuck as a 4 or 5 with the way our rotation is shaping up

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Aug 13, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Going by what he's done this year

…if he’s a #4 or 5 then that must be one hell of a rotation.

by Black Francis on Aug 13, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well he's got a 4.50 FIP or so (maybe even less after this game)

The league average is 4.34. And referring back to this breakdown of pitchers over the past few years, he’s easily deserving the number 3 spot based on FIP over recent years.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Aug 13, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think his FIP will improve as his K-Rate improves

and again it goes back to that curve, if he continues to develop it and gain confidence in it, he’s gonna get more K’s

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Aug 13, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

No "think

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 13, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oops

I meant. There’s no “think”. If his K rate improves, his FIP will improve. There is a direct correlation.

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 13, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

and thats what i meant, i think with the cutter and the fact that he's pretty much

always been a strike thrower, his GB rates and BB rates arent going to fluctuate much.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Aug 13, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, obviously.

What do you think I am? Some sort of maroon?

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 13, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just wait until I bust out "ultramaroon"

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 13, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sadly, it goes over some heads

“Eh, what a maroon.”

/BB

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 13, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

They are heathans

Very few modern cartoons even come close to classic Looney Tunes.

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 13, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

err "Heathens"

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 13, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

My fave baseball quote

“Eeeeeeh, watch me paste that pathetic palooka with a powerful, pachydermous, percussion pitch”

/BB

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 13, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Too early to say that.

He is still in his second year as a starter with new mechanics.

by coolrangersfan on Aug 14, 2009 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Crazy Season

The Rangers hold a major league team, and one that had been playing reasonably well since the ASB to 6 runs in 3 games and I don’t think anything of it. I have become so accustomed to the Rangers playing good defense behind good pitching that it has become expected for them to do that. A couple of years ago they would have given up 6 runs to Cleveland in 1 inning. This is so much better.

by pblack on Aug 13, 2009 3:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Think about this

CLE scores 5 runs in the 3rd inning of the first game and 1 run in the 1st inning of the third game. That was it for the #5 offense in the AL.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Aug 13, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rodney strikes out Ortiz to start the 9th.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 13, 2009 3:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Two down, now.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 13, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

ballgame

"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball

by rangerdanger on Aug 13, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

WE ARE GOING TO MAKE THE PLAYOFFS

THERE.

"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball

by rangerdanger on Aug 13, 2009 3:21 PM CDT reply actions  

that made me cum a little

I had the flu way before having the flu was cool

by TagDon'tTweet on Aug 13, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

1 knock on Happy

I wish he’d quit dipping so much. He has a punch every inning.

by TooLegitToQuit on Aug 13, 2009 3:22 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

i was scared that

someone was punching him in between innings.

I had the flu way before having the flu was cool

by TagDon'tTweet on Aug 13, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

You would know that happened

by the screams of mortal men shattering their fists against the stonelike jaw of Neftali Feliz.

Semi unrelated note, if he keeps this up he might be the first guy to get charged for K’ing a dude.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

by Keynes on Aug 13, 2009 3:38 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Request for AJM

can we change the LSB tag line to "We have Neftali Feliz and you don’t "

by Sherman McCoy on Aug 13, 2009 3:27 PM CDT reply actions  

I like Jeff from LL's line...

about our status… “developing nuclear arsenal” or somesuch.

That should have been one of the taglines… maybe it was and I missed it….

At this point, the tagline should be more like “Unleashing a nuclear arsenal”.

by bhudson on Aug 13, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like that...

Unleashing our nuclear arsenal.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Aug 13, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

We all love the kid ...

but that tag line is kind of boring IMHO.

by Athos on Aug 13, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dude...

…add something.

"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009

by ghtd36 on Aug 13, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

What's the word on Cruz?

couldn’t watch the game today.

I thought it be all warm and shitty, but it just tasted like normal beer. It was still cold.

by RA Dickey on Aug 13, 2009 3:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Worked out hard

Wash and coaches not impressed. DL a possibility.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 13, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Retro to 9 days ago right?

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by TxStCa on Aug 13, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 13, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I guess that will work.

An extra 6 days means a lot on a sprained ankle.

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by TxStCa on Aug 13, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Where is that info coming from?

The Andro article this morning said he could be back tomorrow.

"What is that — five out of six? The numbers say what they say. They own us." -- Torii Hunter, 07/01/09

by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 13, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Great Eric Nadel

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 13, 2009 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Silver's check list of predictors for playoff success.

(1) Pitching staff with high k/9.

Rangers rank 4th in the AL since the ASB.

(2) Good Defense

Check

(3) Shutdown closer

Rangers have three

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on Aug 13, 2009 3:31 PM CDT reply actions  

He forgot ...

(4) Shithouse luck.

And the Angels are all over that factor.

by Athos on Aug 13, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I give up

what kind?

Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.

by TheJeezus on Aug 13, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

shitty luck?

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Aug 13, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Luck when there's TP left...duh!

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 13, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Id like to add again

TT looked like an ass at the plate again…

but i was happy to see him make a great throw to 2nd

by Horns130 on Aug 13, 2009 3:36 PM CDT reply actions  

there are two

64-49 threads and I don’t know what to do.

I have tired head.

I had the flu way before having the flu was cool

by TagDon'tTweet on Aug 13, 2009 3:44 PM CDT reply actions  

stuntman mike

talking about cold cocks and rubbing it out. it’s not for the faint of heart.

I had the flu way before having the flu was cool

by TagDon'tTweet on Aug 13, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

man, that was fun

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Aug 13, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I especially enjoyed that he is

“a stuntman who steps in for fluffers when the going gets really tough” comment…and then he calls me a maroon for not knowing what a “cold cock” meant

If you want some slack, bring your own rope.

by rangerfaninva on Aug 13, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

a maroon?

fucker calling you a color…

I had the flu way before having the flu was cool

by TagDon'tTweet on Aug 13, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

i only now saw this one

not that i missed a whole lot heh

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Aug 13, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

This was a post from letsgotribe.

Neftali Feliz … me want one!

by FallsTribeFan on Aug 13, 2009 3:15 PM CDT

I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.

by DerekSTheRed on Aug 13, 2009 3:47 PM CDT reply actions  

This quote from the same board is not bad either

Feliz retires to the clubhouse, presumably to hot tub with strippers.

by fleerdon on Aug 13, 2009 2:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions 1 recs

The Rangers have rolled up the welcome mat and bludgeoned the Angels with it. - Josh Lewin

by uthornfan on Aug 13, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

When someone posted that in the GDT

I read it as “slippers”.

ah, now it makes sense.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Aug 13, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Then what did you do?"

“Both of them, sir.”

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Aug 13, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hunter and Holland and Feliz, oh my...

Hunter and Holland and Feliz, oh my!

1/2 game back of the BoSox bitches. Huge series starts tomorrow. Damn is this fun.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Aug 13, 2009 3:56 PM CDT reply actions  

I coulda been a contender...

oh wait.

I had the flu way before having the flu was cool

by TagDon'tTweet on Aug 13, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pitching

The Rotation as currently constituted:

Of course it’s only August, but if the Rangers make the playoffs I have to say I’m pretty comfortable with that. It’ll be interesting to see what happens in the interim and which four they ultimately go with.

by Black Francis on Aug 13, 2009 4:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Nippert is on shakey ground now.

I don’t think he would be in a playoff rotation.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Aug 13, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like Nippert in long relief

He’s a nice emergency option, and good for picking up the 5th starter on those down days.

Spot starts, ok.

If he could be consistent with his stuff, he’d be a nice contender for a spot — but he’s so on again, off again that it’s hard to be confident when he’s out there.

by Trickman on Aug 13, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rotation

Teams do not use a 5 man rotation in the playoffs, and Nippert would definitely be the odd man out right now.

First place Texas Rangers!

by chadero on Aug 13, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed on the rotation part

I don’t know if he’s really on shakey ground now. He’s got a great opportunity to prove himself in the rotation now with no one really challenging him for that spot and injuries taking out the other options.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Aug 13, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

yea, you dont need 5 for the playoffs

but i will say that he’s got a chance to be pretty good, I think he could put it together under Maddux’s tutelage.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Aug 13, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

All the young guys are.

And I include Nippert in that group based on experience.

I think they’ll go with the hotter hands in spots three and four and drop the odd man to the pen. Could be Holland just as easily asas Nippert, provided Nippert can throw more innings by then. Holland’s had 2 of his last three starts go very well but that’s just two of the last three. Can’t really say I have any idea which one would be dropped right now.

by Black Francis on Aug 13, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rangers are 2nd in AL in ERA

after today’s game, at 4.12. That ERA keeps creeping closer and closer to 4.00

by Stephen Rushin on Aug 13, 2009 4:36 PM CDT reply actions  

As a staff? Wow.

Didn’t realize that.

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by TxStCa on Aug 13, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

63-14 K:BB the last 7 games

sick.

although i imagine our offense has disturbingly similar numbers every week.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Aug 13, 2009 4:53 PM CDT reply actions  

true

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Aug 13, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

Must kill Moe. Weeeeeeeee

by Baseball North on Aug 13, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

...with league average pitching...

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 13, 2009 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

... should take ...

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -

"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce

by Ed Coffin on Aug 13, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

is wufdog posting here now?

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Aug 13, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

This weekend's forecast for Arlington:

Weekend Forecast:
Fri 97°F | 72°F

Sat 98°F | 74°F

Sun 97°F | 74°F (Midday start time)

You think those Bostonians will like that?

by jam0152 on Aug 13, 2009 4:54 PM CDT reply actions  

vs. Lester, Penny, Tazawa

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Aug 13, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

x
Fri, Aug 14 8:05 pm EDT K. Millwood vs. J. Lester
  Sat, Aug 15 8:05 pm EDT D. Holland vs. B. Penny
  Sun, Aug 16 2:05 pm EDT D. Nippert vs. J. Tazawa

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

1st game is soooo crucial

If Milly comes up aces there, 2/3 or sweep is not out of the questions

Must kill Moe. Weeeeeeeee

by Baseball North on Aug 13, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

good thing is

that is is not a no name lefty

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Aug 13, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just now?

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Aug 14, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like all those matchups

I guess, as much as you can like matching up against Lester

by BuckyB on Aug 13, 2009 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you, AJM.

And this would be the appropriate thread to say so.

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Aug 13, 2009 5:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Did the other post-game thread just disappear?

I’m confused…I just clicked on it, got an error, now it’s not there…

by GhettoBear04 on Aug 13, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

yea, i deleted it actually

I had a good laugh about it but it got pretty stupid. Plus we had this thread to go to.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Aug 13, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm glad I got to see the highlights of feliz on mlb.com

I was pissed I missed it.

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on Aug 13, 2009 5:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Stuntman Mike has returned from the dead - is it a resurrection

You know all this cit chat reminds me of the all night discussions my cellmate, Mama Better Drawers, and I used to have at TDC Ellis Unit. All night we’d argue over the nature of evil and whether man had a natural predospisition towards the dark side or whether it was the environment /culture that created sociopaths such as ourselves. Good old Mama, he had many valid points to make and I admired his razor sharp intellect and we were pals int he big house for quite a while until my gang of hassidim ordered me to stick a shiv in his liver

by Stuntman Mike on Aug 13, 2009 5:30 PM CDT reply actions  

lol wut?

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by TxStCa on Aug 13, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

just move along

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Aug 13, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hamilton

Call me crazy but I would rather leave him in the 5 hole for at least the Boston series and not mess with him. I know how hot hes been and hes one of our best hitters but going into such an important series I don’t want to put any more stress on him than necessary. I think moving him up, even after the hot streak hes had, could make him try and force things and now is not the time to go cold.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 13, 2009 5:37 PM CDT reply actions  

problem is that there will be

 a rally killing black hole hitting in front of him if you leave at 5. I say move back up to third.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Aug 13, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well since Hamilton hasn't found his power stroke yet

That black hole will just strand him more and more

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 13, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm going to the game Saturday and tailgating

so one of my friends and I will probably be in fight if Marlon Byrd bats cleanup. He has an irrational love for Marlon Byrd, don’t get me wrong he is a valuable part of this team, but batting cleanup is beyond ridiculous.

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by TxStCa on Aug 13, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Look at his options

no much to choose from. Josh is realluy the only one who should be batting 3 or 4.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Aug 13, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cruz hasn't played in a week.

Wash will hit him 6 or 7.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Aug 13, 2009 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have tried tailgating at RBiA

but the ban against open flames ruins it for me.

I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.

by DerekSTheRed on Aug 14, 2009 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Open flames

Not sure how strictly they enforce that, there was tons of grilling on opening day

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Aug 14, 2009 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

you are always worried about thier pysches

have you played baseball before? Your approach or mentality does not change dramatically by where you hit

by BuckyB on Aug 13, 2009 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know...

…it never did for me, not that I played at a high level or anything. But from some of the tantrums thrown in the press over the years it may actually mean something to MLB ballplayers.

I think that a leadoff batter should have a different mentality, though. At least in his first AB. See as many pitches as possible…secondary concern should be outcome.

by Black Francis on Aug 13, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Player of the Game voting

over at InsideCorner is pretty cool.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Aug 13, 2009 6:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Hankles, not so...
1B Hank Blalock did not walk. Again. He has not walked in the second half of the season and has a .224 OBP since the All-Star break.

I didn’t know it was that bad.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 13, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

if cruz goes on the dl

i have to wonder if it would be Davis up

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by DShep on Aug 13, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

see i wasn't lying

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on Aug 13, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

shutup

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Aug 13, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

He hasn't had a walk in the 2nd half?

Wow. Not one? and a .224 OBP?

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by TxStCa on Aug 13, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

77.6% of his PAs are outs.

Does that makke it any more palatable?

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 13, 2009 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

It makes it sadder

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Aug 13, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hank F

9 for 30 in his last 7 games with a HUGE slugging % for a team sniffing the playoffs.

Keep baying at the moon CDavis lovers but he’s not going to play in any more meaningful games the rest of this season.

Did ya’ll know Rodney was a private in the military?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 13, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

8 for 30 with 0 walks

Nice .267 obp really carrying this thing.

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by DShep on Aug 13, 2009 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dshepp

9 for 30 with 3 bomb-skis and a triple…and a ball that almost went out today.

.300 obp & .667 slug % = .967 OPS at the most important time of year.

Did I mention the Rangers are 5-2 in those 7 games?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 13, 2009 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I give you a 100% guarantee Hank Blalock has a .267 obp over the last 7 games

Yes the HRs give him a decent ops but he has clearly sucked lately regardless of picking the exact right sample to make him look good.

Heres one, for the last month (the most important time of the year!) he has a .654 ops.

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by DShep on Aug 13, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

And who is leading the team in HR & RBI since July 1?

JD got this one right.

Move forward and let the healing begin.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 13, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hank Blalock sucks...

…and if you can’t see that you are BLIND.

Yeah he’s had some big hits but most of the time he has been utterly horrible. You bitch and bitch about Chris Davis, but the fact is he hit the hell out of the ball last year in the minors and the majors, and after struggling mightily he is again hitting the hell out of the ball and probably ready to come back. Believe me, it would not take much to be a better hitter than Hank Blalock. The motherfucker swings at everything and swings as hard as he can whether it’s down the middle or a foot outside and high.

He sucks. There is no defense for that hacking piece of shit. He’d probably swing at a ball that ended up grazing his nose. Worthless.

by Black Francis on Aug 13, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Obama approval ratings are now sitting at 47%.

LOL!!!!!

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 13, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

more than any liberal motherfucker in here, YOU above everybody else in LSB certainly give a fuck.

He had a bad start but you still have hope as a strategy.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 13, 2009 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, I don't give a fuck how popular he is right now.

And it certainly doesn’t have a damn thing to do with how much Hank Blalock sucks.

by Black Francis on Aug 13, 2009 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll say it then

(this is not directed towards you Black Francis).

Hank is a hacktastic fuck who’s become an out 76% of the time. I would say that’s awful but that’s far too mild a term. Abysmal might begin to convey how bad he’s been.

That said I am conservative. I voted for Dole, Bush twice and McCain. Obama is a moron. What does that have to do with how freaking terrible Blalock has been?

by Hull Fan on Aug 14, 2009 1:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Its hilarious when he does things like that

And when he mentions all the “clutch” moments Blalock has had (which range from a pointless single in a 5-0 blowout to a game winning HR so who knows what clutch means to him).

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Aug 14, 2009 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

that video won't load for me

bah

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Aug 13, 2009 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Me either

???

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 13, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was in the car following the game on my cell phone when Feliz came in.

Let me tell you, their descriptions of his pitches were awesome. Makes it look like he has a 27 pitch repertoire. Cutters and knuckleballs and curves and sliders and slurves and splitters, etc.

by philkid3 on Aug 13, 2009 7:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes, but does he throw the "powerful, pachydermous, percussion pitch"?

"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."

by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 13, 2009 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

How about the eephus?

"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."

by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 13, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

x

There is no baseball player named “Vick”.
There is no MLB franchise called “Eagles”.

GTFO

by Black Francis on Aug 13, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

word

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on Aug 13, 2009 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

He might be lucky but...

damn Feldman is one heck of a fifth starter right AJM?

http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/pitching/_/split/127/league/al/sort/opponentOPS/type/opponent-batting/order/false/minip/100

Look at who’s directly after him on this list. Wow, good company there.

by coolrangersfan on Aug 13, 2009 11:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Late night linkalicious for you

tRA says you’re wrong

101 tRA+ now plus his overall performance (whether its because of luck, random chance, or awesomeness) shows he’s not shitty at all.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Aug 14, 2009 2:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Average

plus burning a lot of innings is much better than average. That’s pretty much a #3 starter in the bigs. If you can have that as your 4th or 5th starter, you definitely got a rotation working.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Aug 14, 2009 8:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

According to this, a tRA+ of 95-106 is about what a #3 starter should put up. Feldman’s 101 is pretty much as average as you can get, but there is something to be said for that. He’s a nice, healthy guy to have around to fill out the rotation, especially if we can slot 3 guys who are even better in front of him one of these days.

I just get tired of people making him out to be some sort of savant, insisting he’s “Roy Halladay lite” or the “MUPRITHOFTF”. He’s a nice, almost perfectly average mid-rotation pitcher, whom people happen to be in love with because… well… I guess we haven’t seen a reliable mid-roto guy around here since Rick Helling.

J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM

Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.

by LSJ on Aug 14, 2009 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well,

ever since I’ve been following the Rangers on websites, every time every averageish player strings together some months of much better than average results, the cry goes out to lock them down long term. Its usually nonsense of course. A lot of fans just want to buy high and sell low.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Aug 14, 2009 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can’t think of any examples besides Drese, I guess?

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Aug 14, 2009 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm... Fangraphs has his tRA at 5.55.

Wonder what the difference is.

Fangraphs just got tRA a day or two ago, so maybe their formula isn’t quite right yet?

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Aug 14, 2009 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

From their announcment:

There are a couple things which are different between the StatCorner version of tRA and the version implemented on FanGraphs. The main difference is we’re using Baseball Info Solutions batted ball stats instead of Gameday batted ball stats. The other difference, though probably not as major is we’re using different park factors.

tRA will not be available in the leaderboards or team pages until this winter most likely because it’s going to take a minor overhaul to the code in order to handle the park adjustments.

Actually, I didn’t even see that they had it up there till just now. They’ve got it socked away under “batted ball” on the player pages for some reason.

J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM

Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.

by LSJ on Aug 14, 2009 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fangraphs

Sounds like their version might be better.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Aug 14, 2009 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, once they get it perfected, anyway.

Too bad it’s apparently going to take them till the winter to do that.

J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM

Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.

by LSJ on Aug 14, 2009 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

The marlins really need to be moved.

not a single human in sight on a HR ball to left field for a team thats doing pretty well and is in the wild card chase?

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by DShep on Aug 13, 2009 11:28 PM CDT reply actions  

ian snell 8 er

lol.

was the yankees at least though.

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by DShep on Aug 13, 2009 11:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Yet another one from the list of sucky pitchers who've owned us this year.

J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM

Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.

by LSJ on Aug 13, 2009 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

6 innings 2 runs with 4 ks isn't really "owning"

bad pitchers do that to good offenses literally every night somewhere in the mlb.

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by DShep on Aug 13, 2009 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

We're not a good offense though.

J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM

Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.

by LSJ on Aug 13, 2009 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thye have a pretty good chance to be above average the rest of the way with hammy

Starting to hit and everyone getting healthy.

I don’t think its fair to just expect the offense to be one of the best few in baseball as it was last year. Its not like they’ve been the worst in the mlb, they’ve just been a bit below average and struggling to get on base. The OBP isn’t going to suddenly get great, but there is enough average/power talent to be respectable.

I’d like them to average a 9-0 score every night but it ain’t happening. On the whole the team has performed very well, why get caught up too much on the one area thats struggling?

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by DShep on Aug 13, 2009 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well that one area...

…has probably been a little worse than you’re saying. They themselves have admitted playing down to the level of competition, but the numbers are what they were: the pitching and defense have been there just about all year. If the offense were average they’d have the best team in the AL.

by Black Francis on Aug 14, 2009 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

.335 wOBA, 4.8 R/gm

is not league average?

Rangers rank 7th (tied with TOR) and 8th out of 14 in each of those categories. Our offense hasn’t performed as expected, but almost half of the teams in the AL have an equal or worse offense.

by coolrangersfan on Aug 14, 2009 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

one more- kinsler

0 for 5? damn..

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by DShep on Aug 13, 2009 11:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Thank God

he got his 2 days of rehab and his 0 fer 7 in. Obviously they need to rush him up to the majors where he is certain to help the team.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Aug 14, 2009 7:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

They shouldn't bring him up until he remembers that center field and right field exist too.

J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM

Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.

by LSJ on Aug 14, 2009 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

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