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Jarrod Saltalamacchia to the disabled list, Kevin Richardson up, Ian Kinsler hitting 6th

Per T.R. Sullivan, Jarrod Saltalamacchia has been put on the disabled list, and Kevin Richardson has been called up to take his place on the active roster.

The Rangers are apparently actively seeking another alternative as a backup catcher on the trade market.  Maybe the Tigers want to give them Gerald Laird back.

Also per Sullivan, Ian Kinsler is back in the lineup and hitting 6th tonight, with Julio Borbon in the leadoff spot.

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Cleaning the DL House...

I’m very glad we’re finally making some moves on the injury front. I really hate stashing guys who are hurt.

by 3Bagger on Aug 15, 2009 4:19 PM CDT reply actions  

And just like that...

…what was supposed to be the Rangers biggest strength, this offseason, has become their biggest weakness.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 15, 2009 4:21 PM CDT reply actions  

That being said

What would you give up for Pudge?

Would you make him the starter, or would he back up Teagarden?

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 15, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd play them each about 50%

I think it would be a pretty good situation. Very likely an improvement out of what overall production we’ve gotten from the position so far.

"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out

by tricer on Aug 15, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

and it's a move that the business side would certainly approve

I think Pudge would pay his own salary with the increased gates he would generate.

"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out

by tricer on Aug 15, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

similar to Salty

since the ASB, Pudge has probably hit a little better than Salty.

"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out

by tricer on Aug 15, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Guardado fetched a Hamburger last year

Would Pudge be worth a high A pitcher? Tatusko or someone like that. I am sure McClane would want Feliz.

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by RangerMad on Aug 15, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes, easily

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Aug 15, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ballard or some other guy underperforming at AA/AAA

May as well clear a 40 spot at the same time.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 15, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Picky picky

You know what I meant.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 15, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Didn't think Ballard was on the 40

I was ready to drop Mendoza but then he throws a no-hitter heh. Still don’t feel great about him… but I guess that warrants staying on the 40.

by Mike E on Aug 15, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

why not?

Do you really want to see Kevin Richardson catch a ML game in a pennant race?

"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out

by tricer on Aug 15, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

watching Salty play

I think there is a pretty serious problem with something and I’m not counting on him being back this season. Hope I’m wrong about that.

"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out

by tricer on Aug 15, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

No it's Blass disease moron...

:)

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 15, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

no, it definitely doesnt suck

i’ve watched about 10-15 games he’s caught this year and he doesnt suck on D. His bat has slowed, but he’s probably still more of threat to get on base than either Salty or Tea, as sad as thats gone this year.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Aug 15, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's hope hitting Kinsler anywhere besides leadoff is permanent.

He needs to be in a spot where he can be a run producer.

by TooLegitToQuit on Aug 15, 2009 4:23 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Get's My Vote

Melhuse is familiar with the pitching staff from spring training and is a veteran guy that should be able to get up to speed without too much trouble. And we wouldn’t have to give up any prospects to get him.

by MikeEl on Aug 15, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who's get?

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 15, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, damn.

Never mind.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 15, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

hammy

is he moving back to the 3 spot? or staying 5?

" This is the inning that propels us to the playoffs. Mark it down."
- Rohn Warshington on Jul 27, 2009 9:19 PM EDT
5th inning against the Tigers

by gossamer on Aug 15, 2009 4:33 PM CDT reply actions  

That's too bad

According to former major league great and noted brilliant baseball mind Mike Bacsik, this means that the Rangers have “given up”.

Bring on 2010!!!

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by LSBUser on Aug 15, 2009 4:34 PM CDT reply actions  

say what?

I’m sure this is some obvious reference but I don’t recognize it.

by Hull Fan on Aug 15, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

You don't agree somewhat?

I do.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 15, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wasn't commenting one way or the other.

I was just giving him a reference. I was driving back from the game last night so I only half way listened to what he said.

by GregoryM on Aug 15, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, he had the same rant today.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 15, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why?

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 15, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eh, they didn't do anything at the deadline,

and don’t have a ready prospect at catcher. In essence, I think the guys see this as calling up an org guy, although no one knows if they’ve already had a convo about trying to trade for someone better.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 15, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

what? so the fact that they had three catchers who are supposed to be ML ready

but two of them are hurt somehow means they have given up?

huh?

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Aug 15, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's not what I said.

I am more concerned with how/what the players think.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 15, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

if players dont understand injuries

then they havent been playing long enough

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by rentz on Aug 15, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait: do you think the front office has given up,

or do you think the players think the front office has given up?

Because your post above makes it sound like the former, but here you seem to be saying the latter.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 15, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok, sorry, im just in a pissed off baseball mood

we need to win tonight for my own sanity.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Aug 15, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

What specifically could the club have done at the deadline

that would’ve convinced you that the brass hasn’t given up?

Similarly, what could they do in their current situation? The front office has already said it’s interested in finding another catcher, right?

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 15, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sigh...wasn't talking about the deadline.

Players POV is all I am concerned about.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 15, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's not how your first post read at all.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 15, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sue me, I'm rich.

:)

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 15, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mmmmkay.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 15, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Aug 15, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which did: promoting Richardson, or batting Borbon leadoff and Kinsler sixth?

(Not that it really matters which…)

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 15, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

bacsik

for being a former player his mlb takes sure are moronic

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by rentz on Aug 15, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

seriously

i almost always find myself disagreeing with him on just about everything he says

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by studcrackers on Aug 15, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

what is the advantage to Richardson over Pina?

Richardson brings nothing with him as far as I know, and Pina would at least bring some skills to provide good defense and throwing. I don’t understand why you would promote an inferior talent when a better option is available?

"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out

by tricer on Aug 15, 2009 4:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Overall, I am not sure Richardson is an inferior talent at this time.

You do need to take the 40 into consideration. Richardson can easily be dropped and clear waivers. Not so for Pina.

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by RangerMad on Aug 15, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Neither are going to hit

I’ve heard rave reviews on Pina’s defensive skills.

"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out

by tricer on Aug 15, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jason Cole
@LoneStarDugout And congrats to K-Rich. A well-deserved callup. He is a solid defensive catcher. Good mechanically and calls a good game.

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Aug 15, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Taht's nice to know.

I’d always heard good things ffrom his pitchers.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 15, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

godd to hear that

I retract my Pina remarks.

"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out

by tricer on Aug 15, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

If they add him the have to keep him on the 40

for fear of someone claiming him off waivers.

If they don’t add him he might not be claimed in the Rule 5 draft. Thus they have a better chance to keep him. Or at least that’s one theory.

by Hull Fan on Aug 15, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because Richardson will clear waivers

And is only going to be up for a short period of time.

Pina, you’d want to drop from the 40 man before long, and someone would claim him, resulting in you losing him altogether.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 15, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep, placeholder/pat on the back for being a good org guy

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 15, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

why is Richardson only going to be up a short time?

Who is going to be arriving for backup catcher? Think we will trade for one? Max?

"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out

by tricer on Aug 15, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good chance Richardson finishes the year with the Rangers.

But he will likely lose his spot this winter.

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by RangerMad on Aug 15, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I suspect they'll try to trade for one

If not, they’ll go with Max once he is healthy.

But Richardson is someone they can remove from the 40 man without worrying about if he gets claimed or not.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 15, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is the goal

to have Teagarden to catch all the games until Salty comes back off the DL or is Richardson actually going to start a game?

by GregoryM on Aug 15, 2009 4:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Richardson

He wasnt on the 40, so who’s spot did he take? Or did I miss something?

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by rentz on Aug 15, 2009 4:56 PM CDT reply actions  

salty on dl

when salty comes back he’s waived?

" This is the inning that propels us to the playoffs. Mark it down."
- Rohn Warshington on Jul 27, 2009 9:19 PM EDT
5th inning against the Tigers

by gossamer on Aug 15, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

that move opens a 25 man

Just noticed there was still an open 40 spot

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by rentz on Aug 15, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Putting someone on the 15 day DL...

doesn’t open up a spot on the 40. Someone is going to have to be removed from the 40 or put on the 60 day DL.

So as rentz said, who’s spot did he take? Anyone know who is coming off the 40?

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by slc ranger on Aug 15, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bannister was waived earlier in the month

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by RangerMad on Aug 15, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

There was an open 40 spot

which i didnt realize until i went and counted the spots

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by rentz on Aug 15, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ahh...

well fuck me sideways. I forgot about Bannister being waived and already having an open spot on the 40.

I do apologize Mike E.

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by slc ranger on Aug 15, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

We should call you DOD now?

I’ve heard he does it sideways…

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 15, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

heh

The I.Q. test has been abolished.

It is now the Gardner Scale.

by BigGuns on Aug 15, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

A mole inside the Rangers' locker room

told me that when Ian saw the lineup carb his head shrunk two hat sizes.

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by RangerMad on Aug 15, 2009 5:01 PM CDT reply actions  

i figured

his batting average would have already done that

" This is the inning that propels us to the playoffs. Mark it down."
- Rohn Warshington on Jul 27, 2009 9:19 PM EDT
5th inning against the Tigers

by gossamer on Aug 15, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are assuming he cares about his avg.

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by RangerMad on Aug 15, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

i assume

that he realizes that most leadoff hitters don’t hit in the .240’s with and obp below .320. that sounds more like a #6 hitter than a #1 guy.

of the 11 leadoff guys with 300 Plate appearences in leadoff spot, kins is 10th in avg.
11th in obp
but he’s 1st in slg!
if he cares about hitting leadoff, he should realize that.

" This is the inning that propels us to the playoffs. Mark it down."
- Rohn Warshington on Jul 27, 2009 9:19 PM EDT
5th inning against the Tigers

by gossamer on Aug 15, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

so you don't like kins?

i guess it’s his fault the old school brotha thinks he should leadoff. maybe if he didn’t hit as many home runs or steal as many bases he could be a good number 3….. sorry for being a dick but im tired of the kinsler hate. he’s not rickey henderson or johnny damon. he’s Ian Effing Kinsler so let him do what he does and enjoy it. kinda funny how a traditionally last place laughing joke of a franchise starts hating on guys like kinsler, hamilton, wilson and murphy when they’re part of the best team in over a decade. the rangers prolly won’t make the playoffs this year but i’ve seen things out of this team that make me proud to root for them. i’d love to have a lineup of crawford, ellsbury, pujols, tex, arod, hanley, mccann, holliday, pedroia but my fantasy team isn’t that good.. i know i;ve gone off on a tangent and sound like a douche bag im just frustrated with the hate when this team is overachieving like a mofo.

by j d on Aug 15, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm don't hate kinsler

saying he shouldn’t hit leadoff is not that same thing as hating him.

" This is the inning that propels us to the playoffs. Mark it down."
- Rohn Warshington on Jul 27, 2009 9:19 PM EDT
5th inning against the Tigers

by gossamer on Aug 15, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

no worries gossamer

i shoulda looked at who i was replying to before i went off. i’ve been lurking for a while and know u bring good stuff to the table. i just overreact sometimes cuz i get protective i guess.

by j d on Aug 15, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Alright bitches

What the hell is up with all the injuries?

I’ve been on vacation and haven’t seen a game in over a week. We’re stopped for the night in Amarillo and have FSSW in our hotel room – they damn well better be carrying the Rangers game tonight.

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by Lisa W on Aug 15, 2009 5:02 PM CDT reply actions  

We get

pretty much every game here in amarillo

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by BAC on Aug 15, 2009 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

CDavis didn’t get called up?

TT is going to be fine playing 5-6 times a week.

Salty was a major disappointment this season, holding out hope the injury is part of the explanation.

Kudos to Hank F moving down to 7th and IK out of the lead-off spot. Melikey although I don’t know why the hell Borbon is even playing in a game of this magnitude muchless leading off (still trying to outdistance the incompetence of the manager). I’d have Murphy lead-off.

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by Josey Wales on Aug 15, 2009 5:08 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't understand Borbon in LF and Byrd in CF

I guess Borbon’s defense isn’t nearly what we’ve been lead to believe.

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by tricer on Aug 15, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sure its fine

I think the organization is much higher on Byrd’s CF defense than most people here

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

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by Gdawg on Aug 15, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe Wash and not the org.

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by RangerMad on Aug 15, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think it has alot more to do with Wash than the Orginization

plus i wouldnt be suprised if they use Hammy in CF and Nellie in RF next year alot, neither of those guys have actually played LF, leaving Borbon in LF with Murphy switching off

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by blalock84 on Aug 15, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

At the very least...

With Borbon in left, that huge left-center gap area should be well covered.

by Trickman on Aug 15, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

My theory: Wash doesn't like Borbon's arm

I heard Pettis was working with Borbon on his throwing. Range has never been a problem, but he doesn’t have a strong arm.

Plus, Byrd is a veteran and a leader and all that crap.

by cstorm15 on Aug 15, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't get the lineup either....

I would go:

Murphy, LF
Young, 3B
Hamilton, CF
Jones, DH
Blalock, 1B
Byrd, CF
Kinsler, 2B
Teagarden, C
Andrus, SS

by Darrell McKown on Aug 15, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

How was Richardson’s defense in other postitions? He is killing AAA lefties. Maybe he becomes a platoon at first.

by Jspsm on Aug 15, 2009 5:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Well Tea is a righty too with (in an incredibly small sample) a huge split.

And tea has priority over richardson heh.

At tea’s age with the rest hes gotten he should be fine right now, hopefully he can catch a lot.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Aug 15, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

i like this lineup, except for Byrd hitting fourth

but i guess it does the best job of breaking up righty/lefty. If ian doesnt like batting sixth against RH, he probably needs to look in the mirror, Wash pretty much has no choice but to move him down. I mean, come on, you put up the putrid OB% he has this year and its almost forcing the managers hand. I dont mind him hitting leadoff against lefties since he’s probably one of our best options and he hits them well, so thats ok. But against righties, he has zero business hitting up there.

I hope Borbon is up to the task, I really like him and believe in him, but its definitely gonna be a tough task for him. I do like that we are giving this a shot, hopefully he can just get on base at a reasonable rate.

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by blalock84 on Aug 15, 2009 5:52 PM CDT reply actions  

I'd rather flip Kins & Hack

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 15, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

More on the Kinsler move

click

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Aug 15, 2009 6:01 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't know what I think about the way Washington handled this

Sometimes you have to do what the boss tells you and keep quiet about it. Maybe it’s more important for him to stroke Kinsler’s ego a bit here though?

"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out

by tricer on Aug 15, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's sorry

Wash just threw the FO under the bus and then Ian turned around and threw Wash under the bus. I would have to think that JD is frustrated by this as he referred questions back to Wash.

by JDavidd on Aug 15, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Makes total sense

When the Rangers moved Young to 3b, they said they were doing it to bring up Andrus, not because Young was a terrible defensive shortstop.

Now that the Rangers are moving Kinsler down in the order, they’re saying its because Borbon needs to hit leadoff, not because Kinsler has been a bad leadoff hitter this year.

by cstorm15 on Aug 15, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

gagree!

btw i be loving that kinsler HR at his first AB back. he may turn out to be the complete all or nothing 2B but at least he’s productive

by j d on Aug 15, 2009 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

moving Kinsler down in the lineup

It wasn’t Ron Washington’s decision.

"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out

by tricer on Aug 15, 2009 6:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Good...

I’m glad JD and Nolan had the balls to say something. Wash should have just bit the bullet and told Ian he’s moving down though. He tries too hard to be a players manager sometimes imo. Throwing JD and Nolan under the bus just means that he’s afraid to tell Ian himself.

I really like Ian. I think he is one of the best players on the team and will turn things around. However I can’t help but feel like his attitude about some things really sucks. If you can’t be told that your swing has too much of an upercut to it, or you are being moved down in the order after struggling for a few months, without getting all pissy and defensive then maybe there’s a problem.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Aug 15, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Thowing under the bus", what baseless tripe.

And as to how many times or what they discussed with Kins before today, neither you or I will ever know.

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And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 15, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Then why would Wash...

make it a point to let Ian know that it wasn’t just him that is moving Ian down in the lineup? Why did he have to let Ian know that it was the organization? I defend Wash a lot for taking shit that I think he doesn’t deserve, but this is just weak. You’re the manager. You tell the guy that he hasn’t been performing like he’s capable of the last few months and he needs to work on not popping up over half the time, then he can be moved back up in the order.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Aug 15, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

You could take it at least a couple different ways:

(1) The “throwing under the bus” scenario, in which Washington doesn’t agree with the front-office decision to bat Borbon leadoff against righties, and/or wants Kinsler to believe he doesn’t agree with it;

(2) A less confrontational but more conspiratorial scenario, in which Daniels, Ryan, and Washington have collective reasons for wanting to give Kinsler the message that “the organization” isn’t thrilled with his performance in the top spot in the order, and Kinsler really simply didn’t have much to say about that.

And, of course, there are various flavors in between and beyond. This should be good for at least a couple days’ worth of arguing about various folks’ intentions and insights, eh?

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 15, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well the end result that everyone wants,

is that Kinsler realizes his approach needs an overhaul and he works on that and is happy and productive. Maybe the good cop-bad cop routine from the FO and Worsh is what they decided would have the best chance to shake him up without hurting his ego and affecting his attitude.

"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out

by tricer on Aug 15, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Could be.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 15, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting thought...

on the good cop-bad cop routine. Perhaps JD told Wash to throw him and Nolan under the bus. Could be the case. I still think it’s odd that they would have to come up with a scenerio like that though because of Kinsler’s ego and attitude. If that is the case then Ian really needs to work on his attitude.

I guess it’s all speculation though. Who knows.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Aug 15, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

agreed

I tend to believe #2, or else Wash would probably be fired at game’s end tonight. He(and “they”)may have figured it was the only way to get thru to him about hisperformance as a lead-off guy.

"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young

by randyd on Aug 15, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Could also be.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 15, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's also worth remembering how the Young situation played out,

especially vis-à-vis Washington, Daniels, and Ryan.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 15, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

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