Monday morning Rangers stuff
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 17, 2009 9:49 AM CDT
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PrintI have a hard time thinking the last time I felt this optimistic about the future of any sports team I followed. Probably not since the early 90s with the Cowboys have I felt like a team I followed was so steeply on the rise, and had such a high ceiling for what it could accomplish in the coming years.
After thirty-some-odd years of watching a team that has been a black sheep, this weekend really felt like a turning point, like we are in the elbow of the curve for the Rangers, where the rewards of rebuilding and assembling young talent look like they are really about to pay big dividends.
It is an exciting time to be a Ranger fan.
Jeff (the writer) Miller talks about the importance of last night's win, and includes this quote from Frank Francisco, on being sent back out there after Friday night's disaster:
Francisco, a quiet man, spoke firmly about what Washington’s commitment to him and his own commitment to his team.
"It’s important that a manager has faith in his players," he said. "That’s the most important thing he can do. It helps you grow. I had two out [on Friday night], and I thought I could get the [last] guy out. I should have gotten the guy out.
"I know I went out there and gave my one hundred percent like I do every single time. That’s why I don’t ever feel bad … I feel bad every time we lose … but I can go and look myself in the mirror."
Francisco, a quiet man, spoke firmly about what Washington’s commitment to him and his own commitment to his team.
"It’s important that a manager has faith in his players," he said. "That’s the most important thing he can do. It helps you grow. I had two out [on Friday night], and I thought I could get the [last] guy out. I should have gotten the guy out.
"I know I went out there and gave my one hundred percent like I do every single time. That’s why I don’t ever feel bad … I feel bad every time we lose … but I can go and look myself in the mirror."
There's lots more in there from Miller on the series as well...
Jeff Wilson writes about yesterday's game being the high water mark, record-wise, in a variety of ways.
Evan Grant writes about the Rangers being in contention during a time when the focus normally would be on Roy Williams' wrist.
In the S-T's notes, Taylor Teagarden talks about how he likes being the everyday catcher. There are also injury updates on Jason Grilli (who is throwing and sounds like he's close), Nelson Cruz (who is starting a rehab assignment today), and Jarrod Saltalamacchia.
Matt Harrison could start throwing again this week.
And Jennifer Floyd Engel has even jumped on the Ranger bandwagon, although she says the team needs to replace the beyond-struggling Hank Blalock with Chris Davis, who is tearing it up in Oklahoma.
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I would also like to add:
Joe Mauer for MVP. If Tex wins over him, I quit.
by GhettoBear04 on Aug 17, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Not unless he fails a drug test..
But that’s unlikely – all of his only come back positive for vinegar and water.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
I see what you did there
Heh.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
If Hamilton
hits 35 HRs in the last 46 games he has a shot…
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
If?
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
We'll show you Obama's birth certificate as soon as you show us Sarah Palin's high school diploma...
by Brian Thomas on Aug 17, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Mauer
.377/.444/.626
For a gold glove catcher?? That’s insane.
"You'll meet them again on their long journey to the middle." -Lester Bangs
Mauer should win it easily...
…but the Twins probably won’t make the playoffs so it’ll be between Tex and maybe Kendry Morales.
by LiamP on Aug 17, 2009 10:15 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I find that total BS
If
1. Arod can win it on a last place team
2. Palmeiro wins a GG playing something like 10 games at 1B
3. MY wins the GG at SS
There’s no legit logic behind the votes and Mauer should end up winning.
GG Voting is done by managers/coaches
So it’s even more reputation/name based than the MVP voting done by the BWAA.
ARod’s HR/RBI/Runs/SB totals in 2005 are all going to be better (by some margin) than Mauer’s this year.
by LiamP on Aug 17, 2009 10:47 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
He gets extra points for being a Yankee.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
Should have points subtracted for being a douch
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 17, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
See my comment above about his drug tests...
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Missed the meaning
Too subtle for my feeble mind on a Monday morning before I drink my coffee
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 17, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Vinegar and water is a common douche "recipe"...
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Nah, but my interests DO lie in that general area, so to speak...
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Well...
Which would you rather have:
.377/.444/.626/1.071
.285/.382/.557/.939
Now realize that the top line is coming from a CATCHER! I mean…seriously.
Also, Kevin Youkilis: .311/.424/.564/.988
You could argue that Tex isn’t even the best player at his position in his division.
by GhettoBear04 on Aug 17, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions
It really isn't close
and yet, I can easily see Teixiera getting more votes. RBIs and team wins, sadly.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
There is no room on the bandwagon
For JFE or RG.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
by boomer1 on Aug 17, 2009 9:54 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
No kidding.
If they try to get on, they should be thrown off with extreme prejudice.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Aug 17, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good idea,, but let's just dangle them off so they get caught in the wheels...
I’m not keen on cutting ANYONE slack for bandwagon-joining right now.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
We can tie them to the bumper
like the dog in Vacation.
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 17, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
LOL If you ever get a chance...
find/read the original National Lampoon story. That part is a killer – pun intended.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
I feel like this team is in the same spot the Mavs were 10 years ago
The season they beat the Jazz in the first round.
I've been comparing them to that first Jimmy Johnson Cowboys (1991 IIRC) team for a while
Lots of young talent; something long term clearly building, playing over their heads and in the playoff hunt.
Hopefully this team does that bunch one better and actually makes the playoffs,
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Correction - 1990 and it was JJs second team
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
And like the early 90s Cowboys...
…they made some bad moves early (using the supplemental first on Steve Walsh, which ended up costing them the #1 overall pick, the Flagler trade, the Highsmith trade, drafting Alexander Wright), but also made some good moves and continued being aggressive, which ended up paying off for them.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 17, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Yep, add in the Walker trade haul and the parallels are pretty nice.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Overall I like this team's window way more than what happened to those Cowboys
with the onset of the salary cap in the nfl
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
Hopefully
Tom doesn’t fire JD the way Jerry fired Jimmy.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
so who is our Calvin Booth?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 17, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Let's see
Booth was an under appreciated acquisition at the time. I’ll go with O’Day
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
I liked our chances more
when Adam was saying stick a fork in them.
Optimistic Adam makes me worry for the outcome of this years team
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
Yep.
Happy, upbeat Adam really freaks me out for some reason.
it is kinda creepy isn't it?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 17, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
I like
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 17, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
USA Today Article
would help if I put the link…
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/dailypitch/2009-08-17-daily-pitch-rangers_N.htm
Read that earlier this morning...
nice tidbit…
This year, they have veteran Kevin Millwood and four kids who were all at Class AA last season — Derek Holland, Scott Feldman, Tommy Hunter and Dustin Nippert. And don’t forget rookie Neftali Feliz, who is throwing 101 mph in the bullpen, and could be in the rotation next year.
Not entirely accurate as Nip spent the season between AAA and the Rangers but wow. This bodes well for the future.
If you want some slack, bring your own rope.
by rangerfaninva on Aug 17, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
And Feldman was in the majors all last year.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 17, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
No he wasn't
He started out in Frisco. Threw a no hitter IIRC. Then was brought up late April I believe.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Bigsteve knows how many
freckles Feldman has on his ass. :)
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
It is the USA Today.
Accuracy takes a back seat to a good story. :)
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
It's a positive Rangers story from the National press..
I’m not quibbling
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
No doubt, and Nightengale is not exactly a lightweight in the industry
I especially loved this part:
But here they are today, and Washington should clear space on his fireplace mantel for the American League manager of the year award. He’s a shoo-in for the job he’s done this year. And Daniels just may have won the executive of the year award with their young nucleus of talented kids, showing absolutely no fear of a pennant race.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Are we sure Wash is a shoe-in for Manger of Year?
He’ll have a nice battle with Mike Scioscia and I really think Scioscia has this award nailed down with what that team has gone through this year
Bill Simmons: "I will tell you right now, if the Boston Red Sox traded Clay Buchholz for Justin Smoak, I will run around my neighborhood naked...celebrating for an hour. I love Justin Smoak"
I don't think its even close
Wash wins by a mile. Anaheim was expected to win the division. The Rangers weren’t expected to be within sniffing distance of a playoff spot. Hell alot of people had them a distant third in our division.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I think Scoscia will get some sympathy votes
But if the Rangers take the West or WC, it makes Wash an automatic…at least in my mind.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
As much as I want Wash to win
Scoscia has just as better luck to win the award. Its like you said, he will get the sympathy votes and a lot of members in the media really like him
If the rangers get the West or the WC, it will be a lot more interesting but if the Angels continue their run that they’re having (ending up at like 97 wins) it will be tough for Wash to win
On the other hand though, if we take the West or the WC there is no doubt JD takes executive of the year…..much to the dismay to Josey
Bill Simmons: "I will tell you right now, if the Boston Red Sox traded Clay Buchholz for Justin Smoak, I will run around my neighborhood naked...celebrating for an hour. I love Justin Smoak"
Wild Card
magic number is now 46, heh.
As for Frankie, when many fans are ready to run Frankie or CJ out of town after any bad outing, Washington leaves no doubt that he still trusts them to do their jobs. The players appreciate that and play their asses off for him, and it’s why you can’t dismiss Wash even though he makes some odd choices in strategy on a regular basis.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
I think he's grown as a manager as fas as strategy goes...
hitting Josh further down to help get him back…hitting Kinsler 6th even though he clearly doesn’t want to, with Borbon hitting leadoff…bullpen management…of course it all helps when you have supreme talent to manage.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 17, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Wash
He’s not the strongest manager when it comes to tactical decisions, but when it comes to the other half of the equation- the team chemistry/man management part- I think he’s well above-average.
Officially gay for Neftali Feliz
You can learn tactics
and RW has gotten better over time. You cannot learn to inspire loyalty.
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 17, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Exactly
As I’ve mentioned many times, the good things about Ron can’t be reduced to stats. Game management can be figured out.
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
Agreed
That’s why, despite getting frustrated at times with his in-game management and lineup decisions, I understand what the Rangers see in him.
This team’s also been developing a real sense of resiliency and toughness the past couple seasons that wasn’t here under Showalter, and I think Wash has a lot to do with that.
Officially gay for Neftali Feliz
Wow, this subthread just blew my mind, man
I agree with all the points made above.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Success with homegrown talent makes this run that much sweeter.
It’s been a long time coming, but this upswing has the ring of long-term substance, not flash in the pan achievement. Already more satisfying than the offense-driven 90’s playoff teams. This team is being built to win deep in the playoffs.
...
Braves-born, home-grown talent
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 17, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh...Hello!
Regards,
Derek Holland, Julio Borbon, Tommy Hunter, Taylor Teagarden, Ian Kinsler
by GhettoBear04 on Aug 17, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
those guys are contributing?
I forget everybody else when I think about Andrus and Feliz
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 17, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
And Salty and Harry
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
Salty is contributing, but I'm not sure what
WPA: -1.59
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 17, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
So apparently
we might not sign Purke. That would be really unfortunate because we knew before we drafted him that he would demand over-slot money. If we weren’t willing to pay it, we should have signed someone we knew we could sign for slot-price.
KLaw says over 1 mil apart.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
small potatoes
I’d be worried only if I’d heard the sticking point was a ML contract or something like that.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
That was the story on Smoak last year, as well
He’ll get signed.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 17, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Of course purke has a bit more leverage than Smoak did
HS kid vs a college player. The college guy can go back to school for one year and then has no leverage at all. The HS kid can go to school for 2 or 3 years and then be redrafted.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Meh
We’ll see. He’ll sign or he won’t. It would be disappointing if he doesn’t, but I expect he will, high school kid or not.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 17, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions
"he'll sign or he won't"
awesome.
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
Given where this team is right now...
…Matt Purke isn’t real high on my fret list.
I think he’ll sign, and I think the Rangers took him knowing it would take above slot money for him to sign, and I think they’ve offered him above-slot money.
If he doesn’t take it and goes to school instead, well, again, that would be disappointing, but it isn’t something that I’m going to be all devastated about.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 17, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm sort of glad today is signing today...
Gives us all a little angst and worry to keep us from getting TOO much wild card giddiness.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
pretty smart move to delay the ownership situation
until after he signs. Nolan is still 100% on board…if David McDavid were to have purchased this team, and Nolan said he was out after this year because he didn’t have a piece of ownership, that could’ve been our ticket out on Purke
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 17, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't agree
A pitcher coming out of HS and picked 14th overall (I forgot exactly) is tough to pass up a big contract.
A lot can go wrong and what’s the possibility that he’d get picked higher and offered more than what he’s getting now?
Are you going to possibly risk injury for an extra 1M when you’re likely to get 3M+???
he has less leverage
in that it will be 2 or 3 more years before he can bank on a contract if he doesn’t sign
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 17, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Not really
He could go juco and be back in next yr’s draft.
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
We'll show you Obama's birth certificate as soon as you show us Sarah Palin's high school diploma...
by Brian Thomas on Aug 17, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
I thought he signed with TCU
wouldn’t he have to go to TCU for a year, then JuCo, then be here? Which is why I said 2 years…
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 17, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
He signed with TCU
but because of his age he can be a draft-eligible sophomore. So 2011 draft would be the earliest he could come out.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 17, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
There's nothing to keep him from sitting the year out
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
We'll show you Obama's birth certificate as soon as you show us Sarah Palin's high school diploma...
by Brian Thomas on Aug 17, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
I suppose
But I don’t think that is very likely
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 17, 2009 12:01 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I initially felt the same way too
I wonder who KLaw’s source is. Is this Purke’s camp trying to gain leverage on the last day?
I agree
The kid was a top draft pick now its not like he could move up a ton of positions. And if the owners get a hard slotting system in the next CBA he may not be able to get more than he could right now regardless of how high he is drafted. Not to mention the enormous risk of an injury while at TCU that could end any hopes of a baseball career and financial stability for pretty much the rest of his life.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
i really think hard slotting is coming
or at least will be pushed HARD
especially after the #1 pick this year + next year
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Taking steroids is only gonna make him whiff on those sliders in the dirt with more fury." -thedirkatron
by knockoutking on Aug 17, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
The onyly thing that gives me pause, there
It’s from Law. He’s credible, and I doubt he’s willing to act as the mouthpiece for anyone.
Plus he was all but dismissive of any non-signings in his chat three days ago.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Aug 17, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
At this point I won't be shocked...
But I will be highly dissapointed.
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.
Texas has never not signed a first round pick,
I read that somewhere.
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
Kind of a big day today
Hopefully Purke signs on the dotted line today. TCU needs to do the right thing and tell him to go with the Rangers. Maybe we get both he and Scheppers to sign and make it a really big day. (Yes, I know Scheppers doesn’t have to today but it would be nice.
It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca
TCU will do what's best for TCU.
I want Purke signed too, but it’s not like we should tell TCU to lie down for the MLB club.
"Look out, Itchy! He’s Irish!"
Rock Flag & Eagle Radio: Monday - Thursday, 10 PM - 1 AM, on FM 88.7 The Choice, or online @ ktcu.net!
Yes we should
TCU is nothing compared to the Rangers :D
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
AJM?
Would you rather have Purke or Profar?
by Feliz es bueno on Aug 17, 2009 10:01 AM CDT reply actions
Both
Why do you have to pick just one?
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
I'd rather have Purke than spend millions on the internationals this year.
If we’re only a million apart from him.
by Feliz es bueno on Aug 17, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions
They have laready signed Profar
They will sign Purke today. Don’t sweat it.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
?
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Julio Borbon
Is there anyway to keep this guy up here when Nelson comes back? There is no question he is a key part of the recent surge in offense.
Stop caring about the color of your glove and focus on your pitching.
There is always a way (we could drop a pitcher for a few days), but..
I bet he goes down for a week or so until the rosters expand on Sep 1. Probably the cleanest move.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Just drop German
We don’t need two backup IF
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
If we drop him, we lose him..
Might not be a huge deal, but the safest move is just to send Borbon down for a week.
That being said, Wash is developing a man crush on his speed it seems, so they may find a way to keep him up.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
I was in this camp until yesterday
I didn’t realize German made 1.2 million this year which would mean he would get somewhere near that in arbitration this winter. If we need a second utility guy in September we can always bring up Arias or Vallejo.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Well, THAT would change my mind..
I just the hate the idea of losing a usable defensive player over a VERY short-term roster crunch.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
why the hate, child?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 17, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
On the contrary,
I am a fan of the Esteban German
by oc on Aug 17, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm convinced Arias is actually an old woman.
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.
Arias can't play baseball well
That’s not from a SSS
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Do you think he could latch on
with someone else at this time of year? Maybe JD can convince him to go to OKC until Sept 1.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
I think if you send Borbon down...
…it complicates what you can do with your playoff roster, assuming you want Borbon instead of German on your 25 man roster if you make the playoffs.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 17, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
yea that was my thinking
I think you have to keep borbon available for the playoffs
by trgordon723 on Aug 17, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Hadn't thought about playoff rosters (occupational hazard of being a Rangers fan I guess)
Ok, bye bye German..
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Correct me if I am wrong.........
…….but I thought that as long as a player is on your organization’s 40-man roster by Aug 31, then that player is eligible to be on your 25-man roster when the playoffs begin.
Isn’t this the case?
K-Rod didn’t debut until September of 2002, I believe, yet was a star in the run to a World title.
So if Borbon got sent down today and didn’t play in another game this season, he’d still be eligible for postseason play.
MLB blew it with K-Rod
He wasn’t even on the 40 man roster.
I need to get some clarification of the rules.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 17, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
I think it has something to do with injuries
you can be added in september and still be on the playoff roster if you replaced someone who was hurt. But I could also be making that up. I dunno.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 17, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Injury exception
I thought that was how KRod got on the roster for the playoffs.
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yeah that's what I was referring to
that and AJM’s “MLB blew it with K-ROD” line.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 17, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions
I've always thought that...........
…….if you brought in a player from outside of the organization in mid-September, that player is not eligible for postseason player. But anyone who was on your 40-man prior to Sept 1 would be eligible for postseason play. I’m not 100% positive, just going by memory.
I’m sure AJM will clear this up for us.
According to wikipedia
I know its not the greatest of sources but
A player must be on the 25 man roster on August 31st to be eligible for postseason play.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Here is another link to a non-verified source
but, he at least sounds like what he is talking about.
He states that now any player on the 40 can be on the playoff roster.
http://metsfever.blogspot.com/2008/09/playoff-roster-rules-change.html
Here is his take on the K-Rod ruling which actually makes some sense if true.
A few years ago it was simple the 25 players you ended August with was the 25 players you brought to the playoffs. If you had 12 pitchers and 13 position players on Aug. 31 then that was the ratio you maintained in the playoffs. If a player was on the disabled list at roster expansion then both him and his replacement were eligible for the playoffs but they had to be the same type of player ( pitcher/position). If a player went down in Sept. he was replaced by the same type of player from the 40 man roster who was probably already called up. As any time in the year a player on the 60 day DL could be replaced on the 40 man roster, which was a way to add an extra eligible player…
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I’ve been asked about the K-Rod clause, as I understand it the Angels had a rash of injuries in Sept. of 2002 when ratios were still the rule. They ran out of pitchers on the 40 man roster and had to use a player from IN the organization. While that rule is still in-effect I believe it would be harder to do today, the rule changes were made to be more lenient but for this particular clause it made things harder. For example, in 2006 if the Mets decided late to use F-Mart in the playoffs they would have to DL the extra position players ( approx. 4-5 players) now they would have to go through the entire extra 15 men on the 40 man since ratios are no longer relevant. But still the clause is in-effect if the team doesn’t have an eligible player available due to injuries they can use a player from In the organization as long as that player was in the organization on Aug. 31.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Aug 17, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
David Price
He didn’t make his debut until Sept. 14, 2008 and he was quite a big player in the run the Rays made last season.
i would think german goes down/gets dropped
even though i like the guy…
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Taking steroids is only gonna make him whiff on those sliders in the dirt with more fury." -thedirkatron
by knockoutking on Aug 17, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions
he means absolutely nothing to our playoffs or run in the final month
in the perfect scenario, Kinsler, Andrus and Omar are all we need in the MIF positions. In a not-so-perfect scenario, if Kinsler or Andrus go down, Omar fills in. If another goes down, Young can shift back to MIF and Davis can play 3B. It’s not perfect, but it’s manageable.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 17, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
It is safe to say that the playoff race will be VERY CLOSE...
So ONE game could make a difference if we are playing extra games or not.
Borbon has proven he has game changer abilities.
Would you be willing to roll the dice and send him down for 2 weeks, and lose a game Borbon could have changed for the sake of keeping Eddie or German?
Stop caring about the color of your glove and focus on your pitching.
by Texasportsfan on Aug 17, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Curious
Does Feliz have a windup? He is in the stretch 100% of the time, so I was curious if he ever uses the windup.
Oh Crap
Hicks is trying to keep the team instead of selling:
Does he ever want to go to his accountant and say, “Is there any way for me keep the team?” “There is a way, and I’m working on that,” Hicks said Sunday. “So we’ll see.”
by Feliz es bueno on Aug 17, 2009 10:18 AM CDT reply actions
I would want to too
Look at the crowds we had this weekend. Imagine crowds like that a majority of the year for the next 5+ years with a payroll equal to or lower than the current level. It looks like a money making machine.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
The more I think about this
I don’t really have a problem with it. What if the Rangers get an owner that want’s to turn this thing upside down instead of letting it play out. Hicks finally has direction for the first time since he bought the team.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
hopefully he can just get a cash influx
we do need that
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
Yep
I see no problem with Hicks retaining control. There’s a very good chance a new owner would be even stupider.
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Really?
You think Hicks hasn’t done anything stupid as an owner? Ok.
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with Nolan and JD here
Hicks is kept in check. If he has the pockets, I’m fine with it…as long as he gives Nolan partial ownership. If Hicks’ pockets remain a problem, get him out.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 17, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
i think we are past that point though
this team is 16 games above .500, the payroll is incredibly minute, and the roster is packed with low budget kid on a club thats future looks extremely bright. I think im not in the slightest bit worried about a new owner coming in and trading elvis and holland or feliz and marty p for Doc or whoever would be. The success that those young players have had and that the club is having makes it just about impossible for the owner, no matter who it was to accidentally wrecking ball the organization by putting his stamp on the organization. I dont think its a realistic fear at this point anymore. 8 weeks ago it was, at this point, no way a new owner could pull something that stupid off.
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
Heh
Anyone watch those home improvement shows where the owners spend time and money improving their house to increase the sales value? At the end I always think “that’s a nice house now. Why didn’t you make those improvements a long time ago and then you could actually enjoy them?”
I think Hicks is thinking the same thing.
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
Yes, it was.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
all that "wash has my back" stuff
has to be music to blalock’s ears.
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
heh
"When he came up with that ball, hop or not, he looked exactly like a homeless guy who had found a long cigarette butt – only to discover it was soaked with gasoline. He could not have thrown out anyone there, even though Cust moves at about the speed of soil erosion." - Ed C.
by inactive lsb user on Aug 17, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
I looked through the minors thread
but didn’t see anything regarding how we ended up with the new relief pitcher that pitched last night for OKC. Jailen Peguero? Is he not new and I have had my head in the sand or what? Looks like he came over from Salt Lake City.
Anybody know?
It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca
JD made another late season raid on the Mexican league.
He pitched for SLC earlier this year. I think he was pitching for Veracruz in the Mexican League when JD nabbed him.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
what's he like?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 17, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Kinsler's going to have a monster MONTH to close the season out
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 17, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Frankie Francisco is 40...
and he is indeed a man
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 17, 2009 10:49 AM CDT reply actions
This past weekend was one of those moments where the organization took giant steps forward
but my favorite part (and there were many) was the professional reaction of Michael Young as he was walking off the field on Sunday. He was very happy but already thinking about the four game series with Minnesota and not to get too high or lose focus.
As Crash Davis would say “The moment is over” and MYoung knows there is a lot work to be done and four more games at home just as important this week that need to be played.
What a great, great leader.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
Michael Young
Did you see the way he played this series. He looked so focused he looked pissed off. He looked like he actually hated the Red Sox and he was going to do whatever it took to beat them. I liked it.
Stop caring about the color of your glove and focus on your pitching.
by Texasportsfan on Aug 17, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
LOVE it.
He’s so ready for the postseason…
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 17, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
The two run bomb off Lester in the first inning of the first game was huge and helped set the tone for the weekend.
The bully eventually imploded but what Young’s HR did is let the Bosox (and Young’s teammates) know, these weren’t the same old Rangers who were typically playing scared in a game of this magnitude.
I think it also portends a great stretch run from MYoung because you can tell he’s sniffing the post-season.
Normally I’d worry about the Rangers letting down in this upcoming four game series but they have such great leadership that you know the vets have told the kids to forget about the weekend and concentrate on Minnesota tonight and nothing else.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 17, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Its not working, Josey
You are trying to push the “MYoung is a great leader” button, but everyone is in too good a mood today to bite. You had better try one of your tried and true bits. Maybe something about Blalock. That one seems to work really well at the moment.
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 17, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Young is a good leader
I’m not going to deny it just because Josey says so. The Rangers have several players acting as solid leaders this year, but Young belongs in the forefront of that discussion every year.
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JW knows he can usually get some reaction on that one though
People like to point to his reaction about the move to 3B. Which then allows JW to start pushing the “JD mishandled that and Nolan rode to the rescue” button.
I’m not saying MY is not a leader. I’m just pointing out JW’s baiting.
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 17, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Any updates on Scheppers?
Even though he doesn’t HAVE to sign today, it would be nice. Although I imagine they’ll take an extra few days after slotting to come to an agreement.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 17, 2009 11:11 AM CDT reply actions
Does it make any sense for Scheppers to sign today?
I dont think so. If i were him, id probably sit back and see what Purke gets and then show my hand a bit. Scheppers was what, 15 picks after Purke? I would think he could use the Purke situation to his advantage, and possible the Rangers could use it to their advantage. I just so want both of them to sign and I really dont care if Sheppers waits until march (not sure when his deadline is)
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
he was 30 picks after
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 17, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
But was regarded as having the second best pitching talent level behind only Strasburg.
So, it seems to me, the Rangers would find some point in between Strasburg and Purke and then discount for injury potential.
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
wow
that’d be a big reach I think from the 44th pick, but I guess I can see your argument. I expected to go lower than Purke…but ML deal
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 17, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Meh
We’ve got enough time to worry about Scheppers later if we have to, so he doesn’t really matter today to me. Yeah, getting him a few innings this year would be nice, but they should be focusing everything they have on Purke right now (as they probably are).
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.
doubtful they're focusing EVERYTHING on him.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 17, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Still holding to my prediction
We wait till December and give him a ML deal
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Nate Gold retires
The Barnstormers have released 1B Nate Gold, who has elected to retire after eight professional seasons. The 6-3, 220-pound slugger played 14 games for the Barnstormers after signing with the team on July 28.
http://www.oursportscentral.com/services/releases/?id=3887766
by GregoryM on Aug 17, 2009 11:37 AM CDT reply actions
Somewhere, TR Sullivan weeps.
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.
I felt a similar optimism in October of 2007
Up 3-1 against the Red Sox with a team full of contract-controlled young guys (in a weak division) for years to come.
signed, Cleveland Indians fan
Sorry for being a downer. It’s just that baseball is a cruel, unforgiving mistress. One day everything is roses and sunshine and the next day she is lopping off your junk and throwing it in a nearby field.
Is Mariah Carey the mistress baseball?
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Aug 17, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions
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