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J-JT has some bloggy thoughts up about the Rangers today, a whole bunch of them...this is the one that jumped out at me...

I would keep Neftali Feliz as a reliever long term, where he can affect 60-70 games a year instead of 35.

Sigh.

Richard Durrett also has some of his bloggy thoughts about the Rangers and this past weekend's series up.

John Smoltz has been released, and while the Rangers supposedly have interest in him, I'm guessing he goes back to the N.L.

Bob Nightengale has a story in USA Today about the Rangers being better because the pitchers have been conditioned to work longer into games.

Rob Neyer disagrees with that take, though:

It's easy to overstate the case, though. Especially when it comes to the impact of Nolan Ryan. I'm not saying he hasn't made a difference. The Rangers are pitching better, and Ryan changed some things the pitchers do. So he gets some of that credit, too. But when Nightengale writes, "And the staff was conditioned to pitch deeper and longer into games, going until the opposing hitters let you know you were done" ... well, where's the evidence for that, exactly?

Starting pitchers usually pitch until they start getting hit. Sure, pitchers do sometimes get lifted despite cruising merrily along, but usually they pitch until they get in trouble or they've thrown more than 100 pitches. Or both. I suspect that you'll find a high correlation, for starters, between pitching well and pitching "deeper and longer" into games. The Rangers? Their starters are fourth in the league in ERA ... and sixth in innings pitched. But that's sort of a meaningless sixth, a distinction without a difference. The Rangers' starters are 17 whole innings behind the first-place White Sox and 20 innings ahead of the No. 12 Indians.

Essentially, the Rangers' starters have lasted one batter more, per game, than the Indians' starters. That's not nothing. But it's close.

Neyer also thinks the Rangers will fade down the stretch, because he thinks the pitching isn't as good as it has been, although that ignores the fact that the run prevention has been because of the defense, not the pitching.

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Run prevention

I think a lot of it is the improved defense, but some of it is simply getting rid of some shitty pitchers, and replacing them with ones like Holland and Hunter.

The talent level of the major-league staff is definitely better than it was last year.

Officially gay for Neftali Feliz

by RCCook on Aug 17, 2009 3:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Its even better than it was earlier in the season too

Holland and Hunter are looking great right now and Feldman is improving too.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

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by Gdawg on Aug 17, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right

the promising part of it is that they were being aided by the defense throughout the year, but they have also upgraded the pitching recently. Look at Holland’s and Hunter’s defense independent numbers of late and Feliz overall. That is 40% of your rotation and a key, big inning reliever.

by Brett Perryman on Aug 17, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's both

The one complaint I have with Neyer’s statement is the statement is that the pitching will take a downturn. D doesn’t really change especially when it’s the result of changing/moving folks. The D’s fer real, dog.

Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on Aug 17, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

And it just goes to show

That this past offseason’s best move was getting Mike Maddux. It really seems that he has installed confidence in this pitching staff that had not been here in years

Him dealing with all the young pitchers and getting them comfortable to the major league level

Bill Simmons: "I will tell you right now, if the Boston Red Sox traded Clay Buchholz for Justin Smoak, I will run around my neighborhood naked...celebrating for an hour. I love Justin Smoak"

by Smoak Some on Aug 17, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd argue

that the best move off the off season was putting Elvis at SS. That I think is what has keyed most of the defensive upswing for this team.

What do voluntary mean?

by JKolar on Aug 17, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Purke update, too

http://startelegramsports.typepad.com/foul_territory/2009/08/matt-purke-update.html

Just about 13 hours to go until the 11 p.m. deadline to sign 2009 draft choices, and the Rangers continue to negotiate with first-round choice Matt Purke. The left-hander has been in town since last week, getting ready for a possible freshman year at TCU and also taking a physical and attending Saturday’s Rangers game with his parents. He met with several members of the club brass, who believe a deal will be reached.

This dispatch came from general manager Jon Daniels late last night: “Not much to say right now. I think both sides would like to see him in a Rangers uniform, but we’re not there yet. This is the system we have in place, and as such, we didn’t expect anything before tomorrow night. Hopefully it comes together, but I can’t say for sure at this point.”

That’s about on par with the Justin Smoak negotiations from last year. That ended well for both sides. Purke, though, seems to have a genuine fondness for TCU, and the Tom Glavine fan has been given No. 47 for next season.

I’m not so sure Smoak had any desire to return to South Carolina for a senior year. So, the TCU thing is leverage. But not signing today and waiting until the 2011 draft is a gamble, especially considering some believe Purke could be in the majors in 2011 or 2012.

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by hightowersmith on Aug 17, 2009 3:10 PM CDT reply actions  

I think he signs

How could he turn down multi-millions of dollars. Is his grandfather Warren Buffett?

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by RangerMad on Aug 17, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

especially since it's the Rangers

Nolan Ryan, team on the rise, and all…this is NOT the Washington Nationals

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Aug 17, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Much more optimistic sounding than

what you get from Law or Callis. Gotta think he signs, but it could be one of those turn the paper work in at 10:57 deals

by Brett Perryman on Aug 17, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or 11:20 or so, as was the case with Smoak, I think.

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"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 17, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I have a feeling that the league is going to want to stay away from that this year. Boras almost got them on it after the fact.

by Brett Perryman on Aug 17, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, good point.

I had forgotten about that attempt at trickery.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 17, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's a really cool picture.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 17, 2009 3:15 PM CDT reply actions  

That little guy was really cute

I think they said he was five. He was the littlest kid of the nine, and he had to go out and stand on the mound for like three minutes before the players came out. They give each player a ball and a pen for the player to sign, so he had those in one hand, but he stared at the game ball on the mound the whole time, I’m sure wondering if he should do something with it, as it sat there enticingly against the rubber. Then this 6-7 giant of a man comes out

by Brett Perryman on Aug 17, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, five

Guess I should have read the caption.

by Brett Perryman on Aug 17, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was the one I watched the whole time...

And when Nippert came out, I felt all warm inside when he knelt down and spent a good couple of minutes to talk to the kid and sign his ball, while all the other kids had long been sent away. It was kind of cool to see that the starting pitcher wasn’t too “in the moment” to make a kid’s day.

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by RachelB on Aug 17, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

If I was a player, I'd live for those type of moments.

Good for him!

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 17, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

ya, as a player, im sure that makes you feel about as good as you could possibly feel about yourself

pretty awesome

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by blalock84 on Aug 17, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shelby Miller just signed for 2.9 mil

That should hopefully provide some kind of floor for negotiations.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 17, 2009 3:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Purke signs for something around $3.5M

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by RangerMad on Aug 17, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Im gonna say 4 mil

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 17, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dear god

If we gave Purke a major league deal I think this place would crash the internets. That would be a collosally stupid thing to do

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 17, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

no more stupid

than setting a crazy precedent by giving a HS pitcher 4.25m.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Aug 17, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Until a hard slotting system is in place things like that are gonna happen

Money is just money. A ML deal and a place on the 40 man roster for a HS pitcher, especially in our situation could be hurtful to our organization for years to come

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 17, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Purke

I doubt he gets a major-league deal. Wouldn’t surprise me if Scheppers does, though.

Officially gay for Neftali Feliz

by RCCook on Aug 17, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Scheppers is much more deserving in many ways

and if he gets the 40 man, and does get hurt, there’s an easier solution to that right? since he’s more of an injury risk at this point than Purke…

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Aug 17, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

He is definitely more deserving

but does he have the bargaining power? I have to think they can talk Purke out of it, though, if they talked Smoak out of it.

by Brett Perryman on Aug 17, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

What is the going rate for a ML roster spot?

I imagine he takes less $ if given a roster spot.

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Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Aug 17, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Didn't Borbon get a ML deal?

Or am I imagining that?

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by TxStCa on Aug 17, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 17, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

but what happens

when he draft a kid next year who, like just about every HS pitcher drafted in the first round, thinks he’s the second coming? This sets a new bar that we cannot afford to continue to meet. The problem here is that Purke is not Porcello or Beckett. There are two or three guys, at least, every year who are as talented as Purke.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Aug 17, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Next year

We’re going to be drafting in the 20s. There’s not likely to be someone like Purke there who has dropped that far without any major concerns (much bigger signability issues or injury concerns).

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

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by Gdawg on Aug 17, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Next year

We’re going to be drafting in the 20 30s.

Don’t you hate typos, G?

lol

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 17, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

oooohhh, I like what you did there big guy....

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by bking on Aug 17, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

take, for example, Shelby Miller

say a player of his ilk fell to us next year, and say we are picking in the low to mid 20’s (lets hope for even lower than that). Wouldn’t a kid like that look at what we gave Purke and say, “No way in hell is that guy 2-2.5m better than me.” And truthfully, he’s not.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Aug 17, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Draft

If a top 10 talent, like Purke, drops to the 20s next year then yes I imagine they would use Purke as a baseline.

But most likely whoever gets drafted in the mid 20s next year will use this years mid 20s slot as a baseline.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 17, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

but its so arbitrary

Miller was at various points seen as a top ten talent. guys were sliding all over the place in projections not based on talent, but on signability. If you are a kid like Miller with a live fastball and a track record of dominance, it is hard to distinguish oneself from a talent like Purke. I am just saying this is a slippery slope.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Aug 17, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes the MLB draft has always been this way

Its the wackiest of the 4 major sports in this regard. But a RHP with a big fastball is not as unique as a LHP with just as good a fastball and another plus pitch.

Miller went at 19 and got 2.9 million. Purke was higher rated to begin with and went 5 slots higher. a 1.1 million dollar bump to 4 million is pretty reasonable. \

I think it gets done around that number

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 17, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

look at the NFL draft. Its not what your talent is its where you are drafted. Each year the 31 pick gets more than the previous #1 pick simply because of their draft slot. Next year we should be drafting in the mid to late 20s so whoever we draft won’t get nearly 4 million. But I do imagine whoever does get drafted 14 next year will look at Purkes deal as a baseline for negotiations.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 17, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Depends on who you ask

Some of the draft gurus said he was the best high school lefty in the draft.

I’m with the “money is just money” camp, just no ML deal. I’m fine with Scheppers getting a ML deal- like Borbon, if he’s not a solid big leaguer by the time he’s out of options, he’s a bust anyway, but prep pitchers are different.

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by WestTxAg06 on Aug 17, 2009 4:04 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

but is money just money

with our current ownership situation? Unless something has changed, it seems the answer is clearly no.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Aug 17, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes it is

We have had this money budgetted for some time now so not spending it would probably just go back into Hicks’ pocket.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 17, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

how much did we have budgeted?

we have already signed more guys than most expected, and we still have our top two picks left to sign, both of whom are expecting well over slot. I am sure we have some amount budgeted, but it wasn’t a blank check from Daddy Hicks.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Aug 17, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thats the question

If we had enough budgetted then we sign him. If not then we don’t. I have faith that the Rangers have stayed within their limits and a deal will get done.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 17, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

So basicly

less than 1 year of Cat or 2/3 of a year of Blalock.

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by DJCahill on Aug 17, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

You always pull the convo back to your all-time favs, don't you?

:)

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 17, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just saying

even though the amount for a high end prospect sounds like a ton, its not that bad compared to mediocre FAs.

Unless the Rangers have serious injury concerns, they need to get the deals done.

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by DJCahill on Aug 17, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree wholeheartedly.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 17, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

exactly

a decent investment.

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by t ball on Aug 17, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

run prevention has been because of the defense, not the pitching

Maybe the defense is better because of the pitching?

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by RangerMad on Aug 17, 2009 3:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Its all linked together

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

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-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Aug 17, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

not according to AJM

He still thinks the pitching is no better than last year.

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by RangerMad on Aug 17, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nah

It is better than last year. But the difference isn’t as big as the fielding.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 17, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't one of the biggest differences in the staff this year is that Ranger pitchers are on pace to walk 100 fewer batters in 2009

than they did in 2008?

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by Josey Wales on Aug 17, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Ranger pitchers also have a higher K rate in 2009 than they did

in 2008.

So if Ranger pitchers are walking fewer and striking out more, what does the improved defense (other than Teagarden/Salty simply catching the ball) have to do with that?

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by Josey Wales on Aug 17, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do you not think the D is better this year than last year?

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by boomer1 on Aug 17, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

the K rate has only started to recently tick upward

same for the HR rate.

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by RangerMad on Aug 17, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even with that..

the K rate is only .18 higher per 9. The only pitching number that I see that’s meaningfully different right now is the walks. We’re on pace to walk about 95 less guys.

The real difference is still the run porevention. We’re on pace to give up an astounding 200+ less runs this year by my math, and roughly 70 less unearned runs.

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by bking on Aug 17, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

and the HR rate is almost identical

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by bking on Aug 17, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

last year I think they were 12th in the AL in HR rate

this year they are 6th the last time I checked. They may give up close to the same number of HRs they did last year but compared to the league they will be better.

Also, in a year when the league avg RA/gm has gone up by 0.07, the Rangers have gone down 1.64.

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by RangerMad on Aug 17, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

ya

The usage of Holland as a starter and Feliz in the bullpen have had an effect

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by hinduplaya on Aug 17, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damnit

A comment by Josey that doesn’t make me want to vomit. Decent point.

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by WyoRanger on Aug 17, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

he just barely keeps us from calling him a bit with solid posts like this

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by blalock84 on Aug 17, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is exactly why I think his stuff is all schtick

He’s obviously fairly intelligent, so he knows that the stuff he is saying is crazy. I would love to have a video camera on Josey while he is typing this stuff up on his computer. He is probably laughing the whole time. He’s been doing this for so long, can probably predict what each person here is going to write in response to his posts.

Actually the more I think about it, the more brilliant I think he is. Even though we know it’s a bit, we can’t help ourselves from getting all worked up over it.

"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."

by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 17, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

like stephen a smith?

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by 34express on Aug 17, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Holland is most of the increase in the K rate I'd assume

Nippert and Holland are the two major increases to strikeout rate this year. That’s probably why it has gone up some of late. Not to mention that Feliz has really bumped it up in the last few weeks with his 16+ K/9

The improvements from Millwood and Feldman are likely do to the run prevention more than them pitching better. Also you can be less fine with your pitches if you have some faith that the defense will get to more balls. Last years infield defense was a sieve.

What do voluntary mean?

by JKolar on Aug 17, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Again, the K rate is not up a significant amount this year..

It HAS jumped quite a bit post-ASB, but for the season it’s not much of a jump.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 17, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

it obviously has given them the confidence to put more balls over the strike zone

instead of fear of the ball being put in play to a shoddy defense that makes errors or fails to get to balls

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by Walter Sobchak on Aug 17, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just think they've gotten better at throwing strikes..

Natural growth of young guys getting better acclimated. Is there more confidence in the defense? Sure. But I don’t think that guys were “dodging the strike zone” out of fear the ball would get hit; I just don’t think they were very good at commanding their pitches.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 17, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd say its both

Holland, Hunter and Nippert are all learning that with good stuff you don’t have to nibble incessantly. I think that’s especially true of Holland. I think when he was starting out up here as a starter this year he was trying to be too fine most of the time and got himself into a lot of trouble doing it. He has stuff that his mistakes might not be automatic trouble.

Millwood and Feldman are to the point of knowing that if the ball gets hit theres a better than average chance the defense will get to it and produce an out.

What do voluntary mean?

by JKolar on Aug 17, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Through 116 games...

28 unearned runs this year vs. 74 in 2008…..it’s the defense.

If you want some slack, bring your own rope.

by rangerfaninva on Aug 17, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

The real question is

Is Andrus ready for The Show?

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by boomer1 on Aug 17, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

No

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by Section 339 on Aug 17, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

The defense is better, in part, because the pitchers are throwing more strikes.

I actually think they feed off each other to everybody’s benefit.

The pitchers are more aggressive because they’re confident the pitches they throw will be caught by the defenders.

The defenders are better because their pitchers are throwing more strikes.

When the defenders catch the ball more times than in the past, the starting pitchers can go deeper into games. When the starting pitchers go deeper into games, the bully is not overworked and is then more effective.

I think it’s dumb to say one aspect is more important than the other – they’re equally important.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 17, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

The defense is better in part due to

FFace is at 3rd and Elvis is at ss. No matter what you say Elvis is a stud and that was the right move to make. It would probably kill you to admit that JD might know what he is doing.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Aug 17, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wish "JD knew what he was doing" when it came to defense

before Nolan arrived because This Thing sucked from 2006-2008. Another one of those coincidences, huh?

Ranger pitchers, catchers and 3B made something like 65 errors in 2008 and this year that total is 29 (meaning they’ll make close to 40 at year’s end).

Factor in 25 fewer errors plus the improved range at SS and it’s easy to see why This Thing is so much better in 2009.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 17, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

So what you are saying is

FFace is pissed at JD for moving him to 3rd but you are saying Nolan moved him? You really have no clue what you say from day to day do you?

Remember Elvis isn’t ready for The Show according to you.

How do you like the Tex trade now? A trade that had something to do with the ML rostor. If not for that trade are the Rangers where they are at on August 17, 2009?

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Aug 17, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think MYoung was mad at first

but accepted the move after speaking to Nolan and has been a total professional since and whaddya know, is now an MVP candidate.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 17, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

So JD made the decission then

Is this what you are saying? If so FFace has no legs to stand on just because it was ok with Nolan.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Aug 17, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

What about the rest of my post?

Elvis?

Tex trade good?

I forgot it doesn’t fit into your plan for hating on JD. Nevermind.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Aug 17, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

For a second

I thought hell had frozen over and Josey Wales had actually gotten something right. But then I read downard and saw that it was just another entry into his same spiel and realized that we weren’t in danger of hell freezing over just yet.

What do voluntary mean?

by JKolar on Aug 17, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

What part did I get wrong, JKolar?

The pitching & defense feed off each other.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 17, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not that.

That post was right. Its the one where you went back and basically went back to your Nolan is always right, which for you pretty much is your way to dismiss anything that might be started by the GM as irrelevant.

I mean you spent the entire month of March tossing around the term freaking disaster and trying to convince us that Nolan was just signing off on the deal to not make his GM look like a total idiot.

That’s why its back to your business as usual.

What do voluntary mean?

by JKolar on Aug 17, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Round and round we go. WEEEEEEEEEE!

You never say anything new you just regurgitate the same old shit. Talking to you is like riding a merry-go-around. You can ride all day and never get anywhere. All you get is a headache.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Aug 17, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Then take the pledge...

I renewed my vows last week and have found today to be an incredibly fun ride to watch from the sidelines.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 17, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know.

I just get sucked into this sespool. God I hate myself for it at the end of the day. I say at the end of the day, “Self, why do you do that to yourself, why, why?”

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Aug 17, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because to stick to baseball terms

you see that meatball right down the middle of the plate and drive it into the bleachers, only to then hear the pitcher say, no… nutha you didn’t hit that. I just struck you out on one pitch.

What do voluntary mean?

by JKolar on Aug 17, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

This is a PERFECT simile..

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 17, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep, it's like when you pronise to stop yelling at the TV

and then someone makes such a boneheaded move that you forget all decorum and let fly.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 17, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

my dog still hates football season for this reason ;-)

Nobody is perfect, i am nobody, therefore, i am perfect

by 34express on Aug 17, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it sucks when your dog is embarrassed for you...

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 17, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cesspool, btw.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 17, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks Rodney

lol

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Aug 17, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

He has known what he was doing

Since he got the job he has made it a priority to try and acquire up the middle solid defensive players. Hamilton, Borbon, Paisano, Teagarden, Pina, Elvis.

All guys acquired by JD. The problem is only Hamilton out of that group was ML ready when acquired. But that fits into the plan of our young guys being ready all at the same time which is now.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 17, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think you are probably partly right

there is certaintly some commonality between strike throwing and better D. But in the end alot of the difference is simply having better athletes at SS and RF. Kinsler’s improved D might be partially do to a little more focus b/c he knows pitchers are gonna throw strikes, but id tend to say it has more to do with just plain growth from a relatively young player with the help of Wash.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Aug 17, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Neftali has something to say to you.

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Aug 17, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Finnerty flaming Frog Taylor

That’s like watching two guys with cerbral palsy fight.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

by Keynes on Aug 17, 2009 3:28 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Get off on that sort of thing do ya?

Puberty is a bitch.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Aug 17, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

Semi-retarded amateur porn is totally my scene. It’s just a good time all around.

by Finnerty.Fan on Aug 17, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

So what you are saying is...

…you are watching a porn of your parents then. Now it all makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up for us.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Aug 17, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow

maybe this isn’t Newberg’s alter ego after all…

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Aug 17, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

hmmmm

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Aug 17, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

heh heh

it was a funny notion while it lasted. But clearly Fin has responded by kicking it up a notch.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Aug 17, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whether it is or not

it’s definitely getting stale.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Aug 17, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 17, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

...

There’s flaming, and then there’s just ‘Dude, what the fuck is wrong with you?’

You’re so far over on the DWTFiWwY side of the equation that a year of 4chan might not make you decent troll.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

by Keynes on Aug 17, 2009 3:46 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

4chan

I don’t know that I’d wish a year of that site on anyone.

Officially gay for Neftali Feliz

by RCCook on Aug 17, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's not even insulting.

It’s just…disturbing. Cocaine’s a hell of a drug, man. Ask Josh.

"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009

by ghtd36 on Aug 17, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's like Bobby Baccala's kid in the Sopranos

who just crumps on himself when kids are making fun of him.

It’s like, ‘What does this accomplish?’

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

by Keynes on Aug 17, 2009 3:55 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

while I appreciate the reference to a great show

I am not sure I get what you are saying here…

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Aug 17, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fin's responses and flaming

I’m comparing it to that kid just dropping turd on himself.

Like, instead of saying ‘Hey, Keynes, take a running start and jump-fuck yourself’ he’s like ‘I would enjoy watching a video of your parents in the act of love’.

What the fuck, man? No one wants to see my parents having maritals- if you do, there’s something very fucking wrong with you. Is that supposed to be insulting? To me?

So, in the end, it’s like his response is to shit on his own ankles.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

by Keynes on Aug 17, 2009 4:04 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Exactly

If he’d’ve said ‘Keynes’ mom is a hoe and I know ‘cuz I done it wif her’ I’d be like ‘Hey, I just got insulted!’.

As it is, I feel like I just watched an Italian sitcom with a complex storyline and no subtitles.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

by Keynes on Aug 17, 2009 5:36 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

LOL

"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."

by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 17, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or

Your mother is so corpulent, when she sits around the magificently appointed Tuscan villa, she literally sits around the magnificently appointed Tuscan villa.

A cold one, that.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

by Keynes on Aug 17, 2009 6:13 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Nick Johnson

Just read on Rotoworld that he pulled a hamstring today, and may be headed to the DL.

Officially gay for Neftali Feliz

by RCCook on Aug 17, 2009 3:31 PM CDT reply actions  

It was inevitable

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 17, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

AJM...

I’m baffled at how you can be so detailed in certain ares and so overly broad in others…

“Although that ignores the fact that the run prevention has been because of the defense, not the pitching”

Yes, the defense has been exceptional, but anyone care to regurgitate the staff’s k/9 and k/bb ratio since the ASB?

That’s pitching brotha!!

by Topgun22 on Aug 17, 2009 3:43 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Huff to Detroit, eh?

Who was it that argued with me when I said he wasn’t scary in april this year =p

Pretty bad year. I suppose our DH’s/1b havn’t been too spectacular though.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Aug 17, 2009 3:50 PM CDT reply actions  

JJT and Feliz

I understand where his head is at, and I made a similar statement a few days ago that Feliz could stay in the bullpen next year because we have more than enough guys with which to build an above average rotation…but I have come back to my senses.

It is hard to watch how Feliz has impacted games in his current role and imagine him anywhere else. I have never felt so secure watching a pitcher come into a close game in the late innings, and the fact that he can handle more than one inning is craziness. But this org has to give him a chance to be a starter, despite the fact that he impacts less games that way, because he and Holland have a legitimate chance to give us two young TORPs, and TORPS are even harder to find than dominant late inning guys…

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Aug 17, 2009 3:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Its just about value

the value of a stud RP is just so much less than that of a #1 or #2 starter, which is what Feliz profiles as.

I think the Rangers do themselves a huge disservice if they don’t confirm that Feliz can’t hit his potential before relegating him, long term, to the 1 inning life of a MLB relief pitcher.

What do voluntary mean?

by JKolar on Aug 17, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

As a RP he'd impact 60-70 games instead of 31-34.

But as a RP he’d impact 70-80 innings instead of 180-210 innings.

by Inkara1 on Aug 17, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

OKC has a 4:00 start - McCarthy pitching

Davis, after DH’ing last night, is NOT in the lineup this afternoon.
Hmmmmm …

by shroomer on Aug 17, 2009 3:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Scott Lucas tweeted:

Chris Davis out of OKC lineup with sore knee.

"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009

by ghtd36 on Aug 17, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

blurg

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Aug 17, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn You, Dreamkiller!!!

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 17, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

HAHAHA

For some reason, I laughed aloud at that.;

"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009

by ghtd36 on Aug 17, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

Nobody is perfect, i am nobody, therefore, i am perfect

by 34express on Aug 17, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

sore knee?

No. They just haven’t cleared the move with FACE yet. Wash and JD will prolly draw straws once they get to RBiA to see who has to break the news.

"There is no dignity quite so impressive, and no independence quite so important, as living within your means" - Calvin Coolidge

by hubcityraider on Aug 17, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sore left knee = try and stall a while

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 17, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

ha, i like it

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Aug 17, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe its like Blalock's "stomach virus" last year

heh

After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL

by hinduplaya on Aug 17, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

i love how mike is like a little kid baseball fan

its kind of refreshing

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Aug 17, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay, someone tell me

Why are we putting Kinsler back at lead-off and dropping Borbon when things were working well and Borbon was hot. I’ve heard Wash say several times about going with a hot player, especially when it is one of Wash’s guys, eg AJ. Kinsler with his power would be better in middle of line-up 3-4-5.

by diamond_dave on Aug 17, 2009 4:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Wash said from the get go

Borbon would leadoff against RHP and Kinsler against LHP.

Liriano is a lefty

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 17, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Holy hell

Wash is looking at splits? That makes me happy.

Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on Aug 17, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know if its splits

As much as Wash seems to not like putting young lefties against LHP if possible. With the amount of OFs we have we can afford to give Borbon a day off against a tough lefty

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 17, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Liriano doesn't exactly qualify as a "tough" lefty anymore

But you’re probably right.

Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on Aug 17, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I heard this morning that it was about L/R pitching

Kins will hit leadoff against the lefty tonight.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 17, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think we should just go straight up elvis/borbon leadoff platoon

Always have the speed at the top and kinsler’s power somewhere in the middle.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Aug 17, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

no doubt

they’re so scared of putting too much pressure on Elvis’s offense. I say fuck it and roll on. The dude can take a walk, work a pitcher, lay a bunt down, steal a base, and hit singles. Bat him leadoff.

"There is no dignity quite so impressive, and no independence quite so important, as living within your means" - Calvin Coolidge

by hubcityraider on Aug 17, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

i love the idea of rotating andrus and borbon as lineup bookends.

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There is, in fact, a manly and lawful passion for equality which excites men to wish all to be powerful and honored. This passion tends to elevate the humble to the rank of the great; but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level, and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom.
-Alexis de Tocqueville, 1835

by Hamiltons Homey on Aug 17, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

you are not alone

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Aug 17, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep, exactly what im hoping for next year

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Aug 17, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Lineup - Hammy back up to 3rd in order

1. Ian Kinsler, 2B

2. Michael Young, 3B

3. Josh Hamilton, RF

4. Marlon Byrd, CF

5. David Murphy, LF

6. Andruw Jones, DH

7. Hank Blalock, 1B

8. Kevin Richardson, C

9. Elvis Andrus, SS

Borbon has a great weekend yet he sits…hmm….

And can anyone tell me when was the last day Byrd got a day off?

Bill Simmons: "I will tell you right now, if the Boston Red Sox traded Clay Buchholz for Justin Smoak, I will run around my neighborhood naked...celebrating for an hour. I love Justin Smoak"

by Smoak Some on Aug 17, 2009 4:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Why do you sit Borbon when he's on an incredible streak???

AND WHY THE FUCK DO YOU BAT BYRD FOURTH????

Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.

by Aquaman56 on Aug 17, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't frickin question The Gut

Manager of the year type shit.

"There is no dignity quite so impressive, and no independence quite so important, as living within your means" - Calvin Coolidge

by hubcityraider on Aug 17, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Against lefties neither of these is actually worth complaining about.

byrd has been meh vs lefties, but not as bad as most of the others.

The main change I’d make to that lineup is jones in front of murphy, murphy 5th vs a lefty in a slump is pretty stupid.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Aug 17, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup

Nothing too fundamentally bad about this lineup.

Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on Aug 17, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

One of all-time great Ticket moments.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 17, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Before you ask that question

you might want to check Murphy’s stats against lefthanders.

by twinkilling on Aug 17, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Borbon -- .265 vs leftys in AAA this year

It’s a bit early to throw him out there against Liriano-type lefties

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 17, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

congrats to Kevin Richardson

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Aug 17, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

1st and only you think?

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Aug 17, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

This really may be an actual cup of coffee.

"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009

by ghtd36 on Aug 17, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

probably

unless he comes out and crushes two HRs tonight, which seems to happen fairly often when guys like this come up. It all depends on if/when we find a better backup C.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Aug 17, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually hits lefties pretty well....

put up a .322/.410/.701 line at OKC…he just sucks (.162/.212/.261) against righties

If you want some slack, bring your own rope.

by rangerfaninva on Aug 17, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

this is a pretty un-impressive lineup

the top 3 are great, Byrd is hit or miss, then it just falls apart as Murph is still struggling vs. lefties, Hank and Kevin Richardson…that’s just a black hole spot for Liriano to rack up 10 K’s right there.

I’d much rather have Borbon stay in and lead off, Hamilton hit 4th and Kinsler hit 6th to spread things around.

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Aug 17, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Borbon should in line-up in place of Murphy or Jones

Kinsler should not be lead-off, since he is the leading RBI producer and power threat. He should be hitting 3-4-5.

by diamond_dave on Aug 17, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fuck me, I glossed over the fact that Hack is in there

Sigh…

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 17, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

better line up

Andrus, MY, KInsler, Hamilton, Jones, Byrd, Blalock, Richardson, Borbon.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Aug 17, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

semi-OT - Chuck Morgan is the bees knees

he’s helping me set two of my buddies on kiss cam tonight. its so great to have lonestarball for a resource.

so if you see two dudes pop up on the kiss cam and look real uncomfortable tonight (section 30 behind where Nolan sits), it means Chuck has a sense of humor.

by 6th street on Aug 17, 2009 4:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Then he will have assisted in two of his friends realizing their homosexual dreams.

Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.

by Aquaman56 on Aug 17, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I rooting for this

"There is no dignity quite so impressive, and no independence quite so important, as living within your means" - Calvin Coolidge

by hubcityraider on Aug 17, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

What a glorious prank!

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 17, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought so.

Just have to make sure they dont find out I set them up until after I get a ride back to Dallas after the game.

by 6th street on Aug 17, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Could be a long walk...

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 17, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

So pumped coming off the weekend

and then see the 4-8 and get slapped in the head with a cold hard dose of reality

Baseball announcer utters expletive on TV broadcast to describe Hideki Irabu’s ineptitude – network gets zero complaints

by TomLovesHideki on Aug 17, 2009 4:31 PM CDT reply actions  

OT:

F Brett Favre. Are you kidding me? He’s still on ESPN. GO AWAY!!!

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by TxStCa on Aug 17, 2009 5:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Well duh...

Although they had a good piece about the Rangers during lunch SC today.

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by TxStCa on Aug 17, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Days of Our Josey Lives

This was a wild one today (all statements paraphrased).

“JD won’t bring up CD for Hank because JD is scared of the veteran backlash because Hank is too important to the clubhouse chemistry.” That’s cool – just ignore the point of things which is that your favorite player’s sucked since the ASB and put it on JD.

“Ks are up, BB are down.” I’m with you.

“Pitchers are feeding off the D and throwing more strikes.” Preach it, brother.

“The improvement in D and pitching happened after Nolan got involved with This Thing, ergo, Nolan improved the pitching and D”. Fuck – why did you have to do that? You were doing so well.

Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on Aug 17, 2009 5:03 PM CDT reply actions  

When this - " It would probably kill you to admit that JD might know what he is doing.." -

is thrown into the mix, it’s addressed.

Our defense was terrible from 2006-2008 and now it’s not.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 17, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because of...?

the changes JD made and the players he got before Nolan was still in Houston. Elvis…the main factor.

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by TxStCa on Aug 17, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Post hoc ergo propter hoc

Not a real argument.

Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on Aug 17, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Catastrophic Moment Ryhnes, really?

That’s just a really stupid idea, and gleaned by looking back on the season. You don’t know when it is happening, if it were even a real event.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 17, 2009 5:28 PM CDT reply actions  

I could see Friday as potentially being catastrophic

Glad it wasn’t but it had all the right ingredients to be

Your ace was the starter so you wouldn’t have him pitch another game for 5 days
You gave up the lead once only to regain it
Your closer who had been rock solid has not just a bad outting but a phenomenally bad outting
You have a rookie pitching the next day and, until that point at least, followed all his good games with really crappy ones
And all this was going on against the team you are directly fighting against for the first playoff spot in 10 years

All that for a young team could spell doom. They could have easily lost the next two and been 3.5 down from the WC and 6.5 out of the West and then it probably snowballs

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 17, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

seeing Purke and Scheppers unsigned is expected for the time being

I’d really like to see Reggie Williams and the Jabari’s signed. Any update on them?

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Aug 17, 2009 5:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Who says?
seeing Purke and Scheppers unsigned is expected for the time being

by Brett Perryman on Aug 17, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess I have every reason to believe we won't hear about Purke signing

until at the earliest an hour before the deadline

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Aug 17, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think I misunderstood what you were saying

I haven’t heard a single word about those guys, btw. I would be really surprised if Williams signs and pretty surprised if Lemke does. Blash seems to make a little sense, but the Rangers would have to be pretty convicted to offer enough, given his upside.

by Brett Perryman on Aug 17, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

any team can take padilla now

w/o having to trade or pick up his salary now, right?

" This is the inning that propels us to the playoffs. Mark it down."
- Rohn Warshington on Jul 27, 2009 9:19 PM EDT
5th inning against the Tigers

by gossamer on Aug 17, 2009 5:48 PM CDT reply actions  

I think they still have to pick up his salary for the next couple days

but then hes completely gone and we are fully on the hook

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 17, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's some awesome logic, I agree with it.

I think the Giants hould put Lincecum in the pen, too. And I always thought the Braves were wasiting Greg Maddux by not allowing him to affect more games.

by philkid3 on Aug 17, 2009 8:56 PM CDT reply actions  

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