Did Matt Purke make the right decision?
Matt Purke not signing got me to thinking. What does he really have to gain from turning down a reported a 4 million? Does he really think that he will get more after going to school for 2 years? Or does he simply want to experience college that much? If he really wanted to go to school you would think he would have told the Rangers that and the Rangers would have refrained from drafting him. This would lead me to believe it is money motivated. Now the question is, what historically have high school pitchers who were drafted in the 1st round (regular or supplemental) gained from turning down the teams that drafted them in the first round?
I confined my search to the last 30 years of the draft. There have been 9 HS pitchers who have turned down offers from their teams in the first round and supplemental first round:
Greg McMutry: Drafted 14th overall by the Red Sox in 1986. His heart was set on football apparently as he ended up playing at Michigan and then for the Pats.
Alex Fernandez: Drafted 24th overall by the Brewers but turned them down to go to Miami. Ended up getting drafted 4th overall in 1990 by the White Sox. Won the second most games of any first round pitcher in the 1990 draft. He most definitely improved his stock with a fantastic collegiate career at one of the top baseball schools in the 80s.
Scott Burrell: Drafted 26th overall by the Mariners. Had his heart set on basketball so he attended UConn to play basketball. He was drafted in the 5th round in 1990 by the Blue Jays and played baseball in the summers. Had some success but ultimately decided to concentrate on basketball.
Kenny Henderson: Drafted 5th overall by the Brewers. Reportedly wanted 1 mil but the Brewers only offered 500K. Decided to attend Miami. Was drafted in the 2nd round of the 94 draft by the Expos but did not sign. Drafted in the 5th round by the Padres in 95 and finally signed. Reached Hi-A ball at the age of 24 before getting injured.
Chad Hutchinson: Drafted 26th overall by the Braves in 1995. Decided to got to Stanford. Mainly to play football. Then drafted by the Cardinals in the 2nd round in 1998. Ended up making it to the majors for a few innings. Was a pretty big prospect but lacked consistency. Played some QB for our Cowboys.
Matt McClendon: Drafted 33rd overall by the Reds. Chose to attend Florida. Drafted in the 5th round in 1999 by the Braves. Couldn't even stick in the high minors with the Braves.
Mark Prior: Here is an interesting case. As I recall his bonus demands were out of this world coming out of HS. The Yankees took a stab with the 43rd pick. Not surprisingly he didn't sign. Picked 2nd overall in the 2001 by the Cubs. Labeled "cant-miss". Well thanks to injury he missed a bit. As far as a I know he is out of baseball.
Matt Harrington: Everyone knows this saga. Picked 7th overall. Turned down 3.7-4 mil from the Rockies in 2000. Apparently wanted 4.95 mil which would have been a 25 percent increase over Josh Hamilton's bonus the previous yr. Was then drafted every yr for the next 4 yrs. Wanted 2.4 mil as the 58th overall pick for the Padres but they only offered 1.2 mil. Read the recent ESPN article. Terrible decision after decision by this young man, his advisors and his family. There is a lot of blame to go around.
Gerrit Cole: 28th overall pick the Yankees last year. Had a very good Freshman yr for a mediocre (at best) UCLA team. Earned Pac-10 All-Conference honors. Was named a Freshman All-American by Collegiate Baseball Newspaper. Very little doubt that he would have been a top 10 pick if draft eligible this year. IIRC, he was expected to be a tough sign last year which is why he fell to no. 28.
So what does all this tell us about Matthew Purke's decision? Well, not much actually. You have 3 multi-sport athletes in Hutchinson, Burrell, and McMurtry. Purke didn't have that chip in negotiations. You have two guys that did improve their stock in Prior and Fernandez although it is easier to improve stock from the 43rd and 24th draft positions, respectively than the 14th position. Cole looks to be on the way to improving his stock however even if he were in the draft this yr as a hypothetical junior he probably would have not have earned more than a 4 mil signing bonus IMO. Matt Harrington is a poster child for just taking the money. However, he didn't even have a college lined up to fall back on. Then there is Henderson and McClendon. Both were drafted again but neither higher than their previous position. Both flamed out in the minors. The interesting thing about all of this? Purke is the ONLY lefty to do this. We are truly in uncharted territory here.
Hey I wish Purke all the luck in the world at TCU however I do highly doubt that he will earn more than a 4 million dollar bonus in 2 years. Mike Leake and Alex White, I believe, were thought to be the 2nd and 3rd best college pitchers in this year's draft. They received 2.27 mm and 2.25 mm respectively. Matzek "only" got 3.9 mm which is less than the reported 4 mm that was offered to Purke. This is truly perplexing as it really doesn't seem that Purke has much to gain from spurning the offer the Rangers put on the table. The only thing I can think of is that Purke wanted a major league deal. So unless Purke becomes a once in a decade college pitcher like Prior or Strasburg he will not earn more money.
Disclaimer: I used baseball-reference, Wikipedia and the UCLA team site as sources. Also, I did not include Matt White, John Patterson and Bobby Seay due to the abnormality of their situations. Excuse me for any grammar or spelling errors as this was written rather quickly.
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Or does he simply want to experience college that much?
I truly think the answer is yes.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Aug 18, 2009 10:25 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
As I replied in the other thread
he can go to college any time. The “college experience” is simply not worth that much money, and if he thinks it is, then he will never be a baseball player.
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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The "college experience" is simply not worth that much money, and if he thinks it is, then he will never be a baseball player.
I’m coming around to the idea that if he can be so self-possessed with that much cash on the table, maybe he’ll be just fine deciding to go after a pro career when that time comes, too.
But yeah, right now it’s definitely looking like he doesn’t want it much.
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by hightowersmith on Aug 18, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"the college experience"...
means he wants to be in a place where he acts and is seen as “top dog” (or “top doucher”). He wants to go to bars, drink, hang with hot dumbasses, get some sex, and be cool.
He’s not going to “learn”…because if he was actually smart, he’d realize that he can “learn” at any point in his life and that the money would set him up for life (and pay for that college learning later too).
He saw the pics of Josh Hamilton at the bar and wants to be that guy…
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by 8legs2fangs on Aug 18, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thankfully, you have it figured out ..
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by Chase Irwin on Aug 18, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would trade each of my four years at Texas A&M for $3 million.
And never shed a single tear about it.
by FuturePants on Aug 18, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would pay $4 million
for my own college experience. It was the best time in my life, and has shaped me more than anything else I’ve done.
I suspect (respectfully) that people who discount the “college experience” did not have a good one themselves.
Sure he can go to college any time he wants, but the reality is that the experience when you are 19 or 20 is vastly different than when you are in your mid-late 20’s or 30’s.
Going to TCU will beat the pants off of riding the buses in Spokane or Hickory. The life of a minor league ball player sounds like drudgery. Certainly the education is not as rich, consisting of a) learning to play baseball, and b) learning to survive as an independent adult in a remote rural town.
If having a true college experience is why he didn’t sign, I respect that.
by LukeR on Aug 18, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Going to TCU will beat the pants off of riding the buses in Spokane or Hickory."
Not for him it wouldn’t.
Sure the bus rides are long, but the chief complaint you always hear is how you don’t get paid shit. And 4 million also buys a lot of plane tickets out of “remote rural towns.”
But you can’t blame him though, nobody knows caca when they’re 18. His parents are the real idiots here. And Nolan supposedly did the due diligence and proclaimed him clearly signable, so he and whatever area scout that supposedly knew Purke wear the lion’s share of the blame at our end.
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by Brian Thomas on Aug 18, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's not getting the real college experience!
He’s only going to TCU for 2 years and then back to the draft! Freshman and sophmore years are not nearly as cool as junior and senior, if you want a “college experience”.
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by 8legs2fangs on Aug 18, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had a fantastic college experience...I would trade it for $4M though
That is family-changing money he turned down. Debts could be wiped out. He could pay for all his siblings to go to college if he wanted.
Turning down $4M is just insanity to me.
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by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Loved my time in college
That kind of money is life changing though. Would trade for it in a flash and I’m not doing so bad for myself in the real world.
It’s not just the money though. He could be giving up on playing at the major league level. Who knows what happens to his arm or head in Fort Worth. College could wait. It’s not the same experience I agree, but neither is missing out on all the fun had on a field in the minors at 18.
by bdavison94 on Aug 18, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is an amazing, mind-blowing comment to me.
Totally respect your decision, and America for letting you voice said opinion…but if on one hand you have, “the college experience” and on the other you have never having to worry about money for you or your family (if managed decently wisely) and choose college then I guess we just don’t see eye to eye.
And for the record, I’m a guy who loved college so much, I signed up for 2 grad degrees right after and had college football team quality as a factor in choosing my alma mater over an Ivy league school.
by ericeric on Aug 18, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
remember
that odds are still pretty good he’ll make millions from baseball.
I guess it all does boil down to how much you value guaranteed huge money, over life experiences and education… and probable huge money.
Even if he’s not as good as advertised, plays mediocre in college and drops to the third round in 2 years, he’ll still probably make a million bucks. If that’s the case then the Rangers are lucky not to have blown $4m and a first round pick on him.
People are acting as if he just threw away $4 million. But I’m sure that both he and his family expect that he will pitch well at TCU, get drafted in 2-3 years, and still make a few million bucks.
The only way he signs is if he’s so blown away by the bonus, it’s worth skipping the college experience altogether.
by LukeR on Aug 18, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So...
I guess the college experience was worth $7MM but not $4MM (to him)? Got it. Makes zero sense but got it.
by bdavison94 on Aug 18, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
giving up the college experience I mean.
by bdavison94 on Aug 18, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, I guess that's what I mean
Everyone’s calculation of risk / reward and value is different. Purke values two guaranteed years of fun and education followed by probable multi-millions of wealth, over $4m guaranteed plus two years of riding buses in Podunk.
Deal or No Deal: your offer is $4 million now plus 2 years of living in a tent by yourself with no internet…. or shacking up for two years with Heidi Richardson in Tahiti, and having an 80% chance of making $2 million at the end of that. Which do you take?
by LukeR on Aug 18, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well gimmie # 2
but, those two options are clearly not what he’s choosing between.
He’s choosing between $4MM in the bank vs. “God only knows what the probability is that he gets even $1MM” in two years. He’s also not limited to a celibate life in the minors. In fact, given that Richardson has that hot a wife I’d say his chances of landing that kind of talent in the minors with $4MM in the bank are that much greater.
by bdavison94 on Aug 18, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fucking Ugh
Just Ugh.
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
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by Brian Thomas on Aug 18, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I totally understand that ---
But there’s never been a better example of a bird in the hand….
I might just be more risk averse than most on here, but this is a no brainer to me, especially for a high school pitcher. If you are one of the lucky few that has the ability to make a living playing baseball, and are sure you want to do it, I don’t understand the decision of turning down a huge offer.
Same goes for high school bball players back in the day when they could go pro. I never got the decision of having one or two years of school.
Plus let’s not act like these guys have the same collegiate life as “us”. I was friends with first rounders in the NBA, MLB, NFL at my school (not because I’m cool, but because my fraternity would let athletes dominate our parties) and the far majority live a college life that’s really close to a professional athlete.
by ericeric on Aug 18, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are?
I think it might be a lot iffier than that.
by Brett Perryman on Aug 18, 2009 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think one can draw any conclusions on the odds
from Michael Cave’s (excellent) recap of the history.
Other than, perhaps, odds are not great that he’ll make a $4m signing bonus again.
Let’s assume he’s got the physical talent to be a top college pitcher. If not, than the Ranger’s (and all the other draft talnet evaluators) were completely wrong about him, and the Rangers are lucky he didn’t sign.
So he’s a premium pitcher at a top division one program The only way he doesn’t end up being at least 3rd round talent in 2011 is if he gets injured. What are the odds he has a serious arm or shoulder injury in the next 2 years? 20%?
By that calculation, the odds of him making at least $500k playing baseball are 80% or better, assuming a 3rd round bonus of at least $500k. That’s a worst case scenario.
Purke and his parents probably assume the odds of serious injury are much less than that, since you always assume its going to happen to someone else.
If he good enough to be ranked in the top 5 or 6 in the Rangers stacked system without throwing a prefessional pitch, then he’s good enough to be first or second round talent in 2 years.
by LukeR on Aug 18, 2009 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In my opinion, he made a very foolish decision
but we can’t possibly know all of his thoughts and intentions about the future. But the odds of him increasing his draft stock over the next two years are pretty slim, and he has delayed his development and the time clock on arbitration and free agency.
He is taking a huge gamble unless he’s just not that committed to playing baseball at all.
But the Rangers front office also made the wrong decision, or at least miscalculated what it would take to sign Purke. I very much appreciate having a front office willing to take those kinds of chances, but in hindsight it looks like they should have taken Miller or White or someone they could sign. On the other hand, if I offered a HS pitcher that kind of money and a chance to join an org on the upswing, I’d just be shaking my head if he turned it down.
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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 10:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think you hit the nail right on the head
Let’s say he wants to experience college that much, well wouldnt you think our FO would pick up on that at some pt prior to the draft?
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by Michael Cave on Aug 18, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wouldnt you think our FO would pick up on that at some pt prior to the draft?
I really fucking wish they would have…
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by hightowersmith on Aug 18, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't really blame the whole front office for taking them if they thought they could sign him
He was probably the BPA, at least IMO.
It the people who told the front office they could get him signed (coughNolancough) that are to blame here on our end.
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by lonestarJon on Aug 18, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He wasn't the BPA by more than a hair
or even by a 100% consensus opinion. The players available were close enough in eval for signability and makeup to be major concerns. They blew it.
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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just an opinion
he will go to TCU and hook up with mike maddux’s daughter and laugh
There's something spiritual about baseball — like Mother Nature," Garrido said. "You don't mess with it. And I think before a player can really believe in it, he has to experience it."
by dmurphnextrusygreer on Aug 18, 2009 10:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Any chance this is 'Jeebus' decision
maybe he went to find our lord and savior?!?!?! Maybe his family/fellow churchies influenced his decision?!?!?
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by Baseball North on Aug 18, 2009 10:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
no
he went to find tight, blonde TCU p…
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by 8legs2fangs on Aug 18, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he'll
catch the clap from it.
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by DJCahill on Aug 18, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
one can only hope
but I’m not that one… I wouldn’t want to face the wrath of jeebus
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by Baseball North on Aug 18, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
CRAP
can someone give me a quick tutorial on how to post pics here in responses?
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by Baseball North on Aug 18, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Click the tree button on the comment box.
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ahhh... I just didn't enter the entire URL...cheers

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by Baseball North on Aug 18, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still flabbergasted
He is taking a chance that he’ll be offered a deal better than the 5th highest bonus in the draft in 2011? To go to college? Crazy. Good luck to you, Mr. Purke. I hope you don’t spend the rest of your life regretting that or wondering what if.
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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 10:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well
He is taking a chance that he’ll be offered a deal better than the 5th highest bonus in the draft in 2011?
Seriously, does it seem like money is anywhere near his bottom line?
I mean, just going by his actions.
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by hightowersmith on Aug 18, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a nice thing to live up to while "experiencing" college.
Just retarded. Nolan’s opinion < God’s opinion, apparently …
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by Chase Irwin on Aug 18, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
favres going to minnesota
haha
carry on
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by studcrackers on Aug 18, 2009 10:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If his ultimate goal is to play in the majors, he might've made a good choice, but if he also
wanted to get paid like Porcello, he truly messed up.
The Rangers could select him again in 2-3 years and he could end up with half or a quarter what he was offered last night.
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by rooster on Aug 18, 2009 10:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
lower rounds
There have been HS players that were drafted in the lower rounds due to signability. Don’t know if they were 1st round talent. They let it be known that they were going to college so don’t draft me. If Matt was set on college then he shoiuld have said so. He didn’t. The Rangers just didn’t meet his price. Fine. So be it. His loss.
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by RangerMad on Aug 18, 2009 10:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
As Much The Advisers As Him
I also think he made a foolish decision, but he only graduated from high school a couple of months ago. In my mind his advisers bear the brunt of the blame on his side. Whoever either told him to be completely inflexible on his signing bonus or whoever didn’t aggressively counsel him to be more flexible on his demands is most likely going to end up costing this kid a good chunk of change. And that may be the least of it…an injury could end up costing him way more than just a discounted signing bonus.
As for whether or not he really wanted to go to college from the get-go, either his side kept this on the down low or, if the Rangers knew, they just colossally fucked it up by thinking they could money whip him out of it. I’m going to give them the benefit of the doubt and think that this was about money, not about preferring college over baseball right now.
At the end of the day, someone who says they want to get paid like Porcello doesn’t prefer college over pro ball. He most likely got some bad advice and ultimately made a decision that, at the least, will likely cost him some money. He would’ve been much better served getting paid almost like Porcello right now rather than even less like Porcello in 2011 or later.
I hope he likes the taste of Ranger ass, because he’s going to get to taste a lot of it in Fort Worth. He’ll get to see this team’s success and hear about the organization’s being on the rise and how great the team chemistry is while he pitches at the whiffle ball park down the road.
by Mister Naxal on Aug 18, 2009 10:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Eh
I don’t know if you can really analyze the decision making process of an 18 year old kid. Most of us are grown-ups who don’t ever see the potential for making fat cash in any job, much less $4 million in one fell swoop. If someone said “change your plans and move to Hickory for $4 million dollars,” it wouldn’t be a hard decision.
But he’s an 18 year old kid. Maybe he wants/needs some stability in his life that college will offer that traveling on minor league buses won’t.
Maybe he wants to be a huge fish in a little pond at TCU, where he is loved and admired by his teammates for rejecting the money as opposed to resented by his minor league teammates for being a bonus baby.
Maybe he’s just cocky and thinks he can be the next Stephen Strasburg, making him look like a genius in 2 or 3 years.
Or maybe he’s just stubborn, rejecting the Rangers out of pride and waking up this morning realizing he’s an idiot.
Who knows. It probably isn’t worth trying to figure out which one it is. What is done is done, and I wish him luck at TCU, and I hope the Rangers sign Scheppers this week.
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by JBImaknee on Aug 18, 2009 10:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
and his parents should take the brunt of this…f’n idiots!
You are the parent! Your son is a child, young and stupid (even though he thinks he knows the world). You don’t let him make that decision…
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by 8legs2fangs on Aug 18, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
financial situation
does anybody know if he comes from a wealthy family?
There's something spiritual about baseball — like Mother Nature," Garrido said. "You don't mess with it. And I think before a player can really believe in it, he has to experience it."
by dmurphnextrusygreer on Aug 18, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
kid won the effin lottery
and refused to cash in the ticket. did anyone tell him there are a lot of hot college chicks in AZ he could hit on? could have impressed them with a porsche 944 with a/c and a quadraphonic blaupunkt.
by SteveP on Aug 18, 2009 11:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Simple answer
NO
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by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 12:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Right decision
College experience at that age is something you will never get again.
Why is everyone so money hungry here, maybe money isn’t the most important thing in life?
Why do you have to knock down a kid that wants to be like other kids his age and have a good time and instilling relationships that will last the rest of his life?
by miles on Aug 18, 2009 12:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Miles is your only supporter
That should tell you sumpin.
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by Brian Thomas on Aug 18, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fine
but he could have been with other baseball players his own age and instilled relationships that will last the rest of his life, AND gotten his pro career starter, AND collected $4M.
College is not the one place in the world to change your life. It’s one choice, it’s the choice I made, but there are many ways to start your adult life. No, all indications are he would have signed for a huge pile of money. He wasn’t holding out for the Georgian architecture, frat parties and hooded sweatshirts.
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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah how dare he turn down the opportunity to roam Walmart at 2am acting like a 12 year old
Because thats the priceless “college experience” right there
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by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly
I had a very good college experience while playing baseball. However, what I remember most about my time is the baseball. I dont remember the fun I had in class or anything like that. I remember the road trips, the games and hanging out with those guys. He could have those exact some experiences in the minors while being roughly 2.5 mil richer (after taxes). Plus if he flames out he will probably know (thru injury most likely) by the time he is 24 or 25. By that time he may have a much better grasp of what he really wants to do. Being a 24/25 y/o in college is not THAT uncommon or awkward. Plus most contracts have stips to where he will get full tuition payment from the Rangers at any school he get accepted into.
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by Michael Cave on Aug 18, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
College experience at that age is something you will never get again.
As said before, if he really wanted to go to college that bad, he should have let MLB know not to bother drafting him.
by troysboys on Aug 19, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go sign Scheppers
I take some of that bonus money, go to Scheppers and say here you go!! Send him to fall ball to get him going again before starting him in Frisco. Then HE can be in Arlington in 2012 and Purke will be POSSIBLY in A Ball or rejecting another deal from his second team that drafted him in the 6th round.
I would also save whatever is left after signing Scheppers, add it to the 15th pick money in 2010 and sign Aaron Crow since he won’t get signed again.
I wish Purke luck, but if he went to TCU because he wanted an extra million. He just blew it. The bonuses go DOWN from here NOT up.
Go Cubbies and Go Rangers!
by pbpsean on Aug 18, 2009 12:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I just had a bad feeling...
that this was going to happen.
I don’t think it’s a very wise decision by Purke though.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Aug 18, 2009 1:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No it's not obviously everything
I do find it ironic that the rich kid from HP is the one saying he wouldn’t chase the money.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not money hungry, just REALISTIC
Say he blows out an elbow, how many jobs can he get where he made $4 million instantly AND if all went well could have two more big contracts? I am sure the Rangers would have paid for his education at TCU if he had signed.
I don’t believe he was upfront with the Rangers, when drafted he said he was so happy to have been picked by the Rangers and that he was not set on going to college like reported. It is OBVIOUS he was set on college all along! Unless the Rangers gave him $7million. Good call Rangers NOT to cave in.
The Rangers were willing to pay the 5th highest bonus money because if he said he would skip college, he would have possibly gone that high. It was a good gamble to take and I do not blame the front office at all! Having this happen every once in awhile is fine. Just can’t let it happen every year.
Go Cubbies and Go Rangers!
by pbpsean on Aug 18, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well most people
that remark about money not being everything are the ones that already have it. Money is not everything but it sure makes everything else so much simpler.
08/03/2009 A day that will live in infamy for the rest of the AL West.
by Michael Cave on Aug 18, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah thats pretty much what i meant
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, and simplicity isn't everything. Okay, dirk?
For fuck’s sake.
"When he came up with that ball, hop or not, he looked exactly like a homeless guy who had found a long cigarette butt – only to discover it was soaked with gasoline. He could not have thrown out anyone there, even though Cust moves at about the speed of soil erosion." - Ed C.
by Chase Irwin on Aug 18, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
F me
nice avatar
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not everything
but it sure makes everything easier.
by bdavison94 on Aug 18, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
to me, not signing is like getting married under 20
sure, there’s a chanve he get’s a better deal out of college, and there’s a chance they stay together, but why take the risk? if you’re gonna get that better deal in 2 years, you gonna be on pace to get paid anyway. and if the couple is still together at 30 they would’ve been together had they waited until 28 to get married
exploding highfive
by sarnold on Aug 18, 2009 8:07 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
You know what he's saying...
Getting married under 20 is like getting married before you turn 30, but not 28. Obviously there’s a chance you’re together sometimes, always.
Look – let’s face the facts. People get married.
So, when working under that assumption, it’s easy to wait when you can just go ahead and commit – locking in a good deal. Not to be presumptuous, but you meet someone, and if it’s there and it’s a good deal, you gotta wait and see what’s out there in a few years.
Obviously the above applies 85% of the majority of the time.
by ericeric on Aug 19, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still don't think that's a very good analogy.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Aug 19, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well maybe marriage is what's making it difficult -
Let’s make the analogy dating…
Most of the time you date that girl. And by that girl, I mean the girl that you know you’re going to date. OK – now that that’s clear, let’s shift the focus to your first date….
The first date is a big date because it’s the first. Sometime the third, but mostly the first, second or fourth. Matt Purke is like the girl that declines the first date but goes on the second, mostly because waiting for the date where the magic happens.
I can’t be more clear here!
by ericeric on Aug 19, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't be more confused here!
"When he came up with that ball, hop or not, he looked exactly like a homeless guy who had found a long cigarette butt – only to discover it was soaked with gasoline. He could not have thrown out anyone there, even though Cust moves at about the speed of soil erosion." - Ed C.
by Chase Irwin on Aug 21, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a horrible analogy.
And headachey logic.
by brettgardner on Aug 19, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK - Let's make the analogy cars...
You go to the shop with money to buy one of the many few cars on the lot. There’s one there that looks like most, only older, younger and more cheap. You want this car kind of immediately, but think you can get the car in two more years at a price that is more or less less or more.
I can’t be more clear here!
Matt Purke is the dealer of the second first car!
That’s what sarnold’s saying.
If you want a car now, or later, youll need to get a car later or now!
by ericeric on Aug 19, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't tell
If your entire bit here is facetious, because nothing you’re saying makes any sense to me.
by brettgardner on Aug 19, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Strike 3, you're out.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Aug 19, 2009 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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