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One other thing on Purke

I've read several "I hope he blows out his arm at TCU and can never pitch again" comments since 11 p.m. last night.

That's pretty classless.  Purke didn't do anything wrong.  Wishing injury on a player because your team didn't sign him is bad, and I expect better than that from the folks here.  That's DMN blog-level stuff.

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Greed.......can come back to bite you.
Purke didn’t do anything wrong.

Let's hope the second half will be as good as the first half has been.

by b.pate on Aug 18, 2009 10:55 AM CDT reply actions  

Can we hope

that he never ever gets offered more money in the draft? Is that classless?

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Aug 18, 2009 10:56 AM CDT reply actions  

I just remember...

…how we bagged on the M’s fans on the ESPN boards when they were wishing ill on JMJ for not signing with them. I thought it was classless then.

But yeah, the chances of him getting more in two years doesn’t seem that great.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 18, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

I noticed a lot of unfamilar screen names during all that vitriol..

I’d like to think the regulars weren’t quite so quick to wish injury on an 18 year old kid.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 18, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

riiiiight

"Remember this. Bear Bryant retired at age 69, and he died 28 days after he stopped coaching. If you don't have something, and a purpose in your life, you're gonna die."- Lou Holtz (funny old man)

by BLUE_Thru-n-Thru on Aug 18, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

I just can’t see the upside/downside of the decision to turn that money down.

When you are talking about money that is roughly equivalent to the lifetime earnings of someone with a Doctoral or Professional degree, and when you consider he likely gets to Arb and FA a year or 2 earlier and would likely make more money if he stays healthy, its tough to justify the decision.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Aug 18, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

HEY AJM, FUCK YOU!

go be an astros fan and quit fucking telling us how we “should” act. Thats all i need is a divorce lawyer to go morality police on us.

go be scum of the earth and leave our morality out of it.

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Aug 18, 2009 11:02 AM CDT reply actions  

Hey-o!

Way to not lurk and instead shit all over yourself during your first fanshot.

-FirebatM3 to Ryan2907. 6/3/09.

by SarasotaRanger on Aug 18, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

FUNNY

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Taking steroids is only gonna make him whiff on those sliders in the dirt with more fury." -thedirkatron

by knockoutking on Aug 18, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wow.

I was about to take a good natured shot at Adam on this deal, but after reading this, it doesn’t seem like it will be all that funny now.

by Athos on Aug 18, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

wow. just......wow...

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 18, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

No offense dude, but the above might be the dumbest comment you've ever made.

This bit of acting all pissed off at Purke like he’s our collective ex-girlfriend or something has worn thin. A few half-joking shots might’ve been funny in the heat of the aftermath, but it went too far and AJM is totally right to be calling people out for it. It’s his blog, remeber?

I think the guy made a mistake too, and might possibly be one of those D-bag Jesus freaks, but that’s no reason to be calling for him to blow his arm out, or catch herphes or some of the other shit that’s gotten said around here in the past 12 hours. People have gotten way to rediculous about something that we knew might happen.

J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM

Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.

by LSJ on Aug 18, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

dare I ask

D-Bag Jesus Freaks?? your immaturity continues to reach new heights

by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

AKA fundies

After being raised by one, it’s easy to hate.

J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM

Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.

by LSJ on Aug 18, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

i thought

most conservative Christians were greedy money hoarding whores? if he is what you described i think he would have taken the deal. fundies as you call them would take the money and run.

 please lay off the attacks. it proves only one thing.

by mo on Aug 18, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Took me a minute to find it, but

Linky

When a peer told me that other teams were scared off from top pick Matt Purke after being told that God is “guiding his negotiations,” I told my buddy that if it were so, God would want a soul in the bargain, and the Rangers had already sold theirs.

Of course, that is from Kevin Sherrington, so take it for what you will.

J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM

Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.

by LSJ on Aug 18, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

he should take a cue from josh hamilton

who ‘glorifies god’ by putting on a rangers uni and winning ballgames.

by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Aug 18, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

Fundies bug the ever loving shit out of me with their blatant ignorance (and their pride for said ignorance). But as long as they use that focus on baseball instead of converting the enlightened, then more power to ’em.

by JBP on Aug 18, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fundamentalists

J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM

Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.

by LSJ on Aug 18, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

History is littered with guys who projected parental hatred on others...

Like you said, it’s easy to hate.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 18, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

it is SBN's blog, AJM writes summaries of what media report

and he doesnt own the writes to what he has written SBN does, but otherwise your correct it is “his” blog, oh wait…

the biggest reason this blog is popular is b/c of the way SBN created the web 2.0 comment system. AJM doesnt get to throw summaries up any 15 year old could do, and run a profit off of doing so in his off time, while he isnt busy capitalizing on the miseries of marriages gone afoul and give every1 a long lesson on what right and wrong in the world of blogs.

so i got a guy who doesnt own his blog, doesnt do in depth writing like BBTIA or others on his blog, and is busy telling every1 how we should think while hawking divorces by the bundle.

yeah, that sounds about right.

In case any1 hasnt noticed, the standards for rangers blogs has gone up dramatically in the last year, and chances are it b/c some folks realized that they could a better friggin job and they are, and guess what? AJM wont cover them…

Tell me what you want me to think now AJM, after you summarize a couple more blogs you approve of. Jeff the writer Miller got a new mailbag up yet?

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Aug 18, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

If you really...

hate LSB that much, why are you still here?

Just leave it alone and go somewhere else. Because Im pretty sure nobody wants to hear this noise.

You’re acting like a 3rd grader, seriously.
get out.

by downsetgo on Aug 18, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

This

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Aug 18, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

My thought exactly.

"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009

by ghtd36 on Aug 18, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why not just post

on the DMN blog where posters of your ilk are welcomed.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Aug 18, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I haven't read anywhere

where he told any of us what to think, just that he would expect a little more maturity out of, or the most part, quasi intelligent fans, then to wish noodle arm on an 18 year old, and now you’ve gone so far as to make me defend Purke and I don’t like it right now. :(

by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

You don't owe that dumbass, or anyone,

any explanation.

That's why they call them business sox

by egriffey on Aug 18, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

dont have to explain yourslef ajayem

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Taking steroids is only gonna make him whiff on those sliders in the dirt with more fury." -thedirkatron

by knockoutking on Aug 18, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Adam you owe him nothing

Jslick is probably 1 bitter old man or 1 young punk that thinks the world owes him everything without having to work to get anywhere in life. Send him kicking rocks down the road.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Aug 18, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

That got a laugh out loud from me

Well done, Mr. Lucas.

Oh, and jayslick needs to grow the eff up. I have no desire to practice family law, but I have great respect for guys who practice that law and do it the right way. There is a great need for that.

"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT

by WestTxAg06 on Aug 18, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

people who make money off the misery of others and then spew morality

make me wanna puke. but i do have my flaws as well, i just dont need “divorce attorney who summarizes MSM” (thats AJM’s indian name) lecturing the world on the rights and wrongs of life on a god damned baseball blog. thats going a tad too far, and im gonna call him on it. just like you guys calling me for being over the top pissed as hell at Nolan and his agent and Purke for screwing over a club that honestly we care a lot more about than they do, hence why im pissed to no end. instead of understanding it and chilling every1’s jets, he goes off on a you guys are trash?

last time i checked, the “i hope he blows out his shoulder” post had 15+ recs. Some1 said the wanted his arm to fall off so he could use his arm to knock purkes head for a homer. Instead of taking the community back from the ledge, he goes off on a morality trip. piss poor.

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Aug 18, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you still going with this?

Meno, maybe you should just close this thread so Jayslick can’t keep embarrassing himself…

by cstorm15 on Aug 18, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Adam

“I don’t sell divorces. I’m not out there cold-calling people and pushing divorce on them.”

Someone should totally start doing that. Hell, I’ll get in the business if I get a percentage of the settlement as a “referral fee.” Think of all the money we could make!

Officially gay for Neftali Feliz

by RCCook on Aug 18, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Also
In case any1 hasnt noticed, the standards for rangers blogs has gone up dramatically in the last year, and chances are it b/c some folks realized that they could a better friggin job and they are, and guess what? AJM wont cover them…

What blogs in particular are you talking about?

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 18, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, those are funny

Unfortunately I haven’t seen a link to those in over a month. Did all the crops quit growing once the Rangers became a serious conender in other people’s eyes?

by Mark from OC on Aug 18, 2009 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fin's obviously...

lets see.

Minor Musings
BBTIA
Texas Leaguer

you know, sites that analyze and write in depth thought provoking stories they write themselves rather then hotlinks and summaries of others as the basis of their whole site…

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Aug 18, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dude...

You are really off the reservation here.

I’d just go take a walk around the block about now.

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Aug 18, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd recommend either a walk in traffic or off the proverbial short pier...

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 18, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dude, you're embarassing yourself.

This is painful to read. Just take some time off and go away for a few weeks. Try to experience the wonderful world outside this blog you hate so much.

by cstorm15 on Aug 18, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

AJM can come up with plenty of thoughtful and well-reasoned stuff when he has cause to.

I honestly don’t see the need for LSB to have in-depth blog posts discussing every niceity and quirk of Rangers baseball, because first of all SBN really isn’t structured that way (it’s really more commenter/discussion geared) and second, I can already get it from those sites you listed, which get linked and discussed plenty in the comments.

I think the reality is LSB is a hybrid of fan forum and blog, and I think AJM does a good job of keeping those two in harmony while providing plenty of content to discuss. That’s really the appeal of this site, to me, in fact.

J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM

Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.

by LSJ on Aug 18, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

those sites exist in the last year to make up for lack of content here

all were regulars, all moved on b/c this isnt a forum for discussion, its a site that hawks mail bags and hotlinks MSM rambings and very rarely anything else non user created.

Trip or Goyo or Jamey or BBTIA will have a great in depth take on a rangers subject and AJM wont link it or discuss it, but TR Sullivan has a mailbag, it deserves its own post on the front page.

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Aug 18, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

You are an epitomy

of what the worst on DMN blog could aspire to sink to.

You are a disgrace to anyone sitting in front of a keyboard. Go take a long walk off a short factory conveyor belt.

Way to not lurk and instead shit all over yourself during your first fanshot.

-FirebatM3 to Ryan2907. 6/3/09.

by SarasotaRanger on Aug 18, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

The fuck is your problem today?

You go on a rant attacking someone personally because he said you shouldn’t wish an injury on someone? If you disagee with that, fine, tell people why you disagree with the message, but don’t make it personal about the messenger. Prick.

Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on Aug 18, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

I WILL NOT TOLERATE PEOPLE

MAKING ME ACT LIKE A DECENT HUMAN BEING!

SCREW YOU AND YOUR SOCIAL NORMS AND YOUR REALIZING THAT THERE IS A WORLD OUTSIDE OF THE TEXAS RANGERS AND BASEBALL!! DON’T YOU GET THAT IF SOMEONE WHO SHOULD HAVE NO REASON TO LOVE THE RANGERS DOESN’T LOVE THE RANGERS AS MUCH AS I DO THEN THEY SHOULD BE DRAWN AND QUARTERED, TARRED AND FEATHERED, BATMAN AND ROBIN’D, PEANUT BUTTER AND JELLIED, WINE AND CHEESED, BEER AND HOT DOGGED……

…wait, what were we talking about? I’m hungry.

by GhettoBear04 on Aug 18, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Hmm...

First your disgrace in cheering Tony Snow’s death and now this. You have a strange way of flying off the handle. If you don’t think Adam does a good job or don’t respect him as a person, stop reading LSB. The guy is a divorce attorney. Divorces are sad, horrible things, but someone has to work to sort out the wreckage, else they’d be a lot worse. I certainly couldn’t do that every day, and I admire people who do it honestly and professionally, as I’m sure Adam does.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Aug 18, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Novak dropped like a sack of potatoes today too

guess how broken up the worlds balance is?

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Aug 18, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think you should go down to the drug store

and renew your Lithium prescription.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Aug 18, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

why the hell do you care

every1 was pissed as hell yesterday at the whole situation, then this morning we have a hack who blows summaries out of his rear end like no tomorrow busting out the morality police and telling and judging every1?

tell me why the hell i or any1 else should give 2 shits about what AJM thinks is ‘classless’ ?

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Aug 18, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Classless Idiots

rarely have a clue about anything they do, the only way to deal with them(you), is banning them.

by SanDiegoKev on Aug 18, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

nice to see that 1/2 a season on the blog gives you perspective

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Aug 18, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've been on this blog

since it was at the other site, pre-SBN about a year there, whenever that was.

by SanDiegoKev on Aug 18, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

change your name every season or sumpn?

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Aug 18, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

It used to be LoneStarKev

When it became a member of SBN it asked for another name, and since I an now in San Diego, I changed it, so? What’s your point?

by SanDiegoKev on Aug 18, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Apparently that only old posters can have opinions...

Even “I” don’t (usually) think that way.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 18, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

apparently.

Also, I have followed this franchise since 1963, and I used to sell beer at the old artilington stadium when Don Zimmer was the coach, and Buddy Bell Ruled.

by SanDiegoKev on Aug 18, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe he's looking out for some of the other High School-Level educated kids like yourself

So that when they’re old enough to know better, they can get big boy jobs instead of washing dishes at red lobster the rest of their lives.

by jcir454 on Aug 18, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

isn't there a Republican who just passed away

so that you can go celebrate in the streets?

Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball

by willamos2 on Aug 18, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

as a matter of fact....

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Aug 18, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

sum1 rampaged about it a couple years ago and its silly as hell

always gets the grammar gestapo motivated to start busting out stars and sowing them on people shirts ASAP, so i will always carry on the bit.

its worth it

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Aug 18, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

That would be me

and it’s still ridiculous. Not quite as ridiculous as the crap you are spewing today though.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow.

So in addition to making personal attacks against Adam, you’ve also just revealed that you’re an anti-intellectual.

This just keeps getting better.

by jwiscarson on Aug 18, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is... weird.

Also written like someone who’s never tried to write a blog.

Glenn Reynolds once said there are two types of bloggers: linkers and thinkers. That’s not to say a “linker” doesn’t also write analysis, or that a “thinker” doesn’t also do a fair amount of linking. But the nature of the beast is that linkers post more often than thinkers. One isn’t better than the other. Adam is probably a “linker,” but he also writes analysis.

As others in this thread have said, you’re a pretty active member of this community, why is that the case if you think Adam sucks and all that?

"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin

by benmor78 on Aug 18, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nothing Slick About you

I really enjoyed reading the opinions of this board to my four year old.

I should take him to a bar instead and let him read the bathroom wall.

by RangerRedCaps on Aug 18, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

have you read the recent fanposts?

This ain’t the first time I’ve had to scroll through screens of f-bombs and douche bags to read something intelligent….

by denverfan on Aug 18, 2009 11:05 AM CDT reply actions  

One Other Thing On Purke

I think teams budget x amount of $$$ for each pick based on what round they’re picked in and their signability, etc. What I’m curious to know is if there’s a precedent for a team basically saying to a #1 pick screw it, you’re not interested in getting a deal done, so we’re going to forget you and spread some of that bonus money around to our lower picks to get them signed.

If, say, there was no movement by late yesterday afternoon, I sure would’ve been interested to see if some of that not-Porcello $4,000,000 could’ve been put to use getting guys like Blash and Lemke and Williams from no to yes.

by Mister Naxal on Aug 18, 2009 11:06 AM CDT reply actions  

I disagree on the
Didn’t do anything wrong

quote. if he misled the Rangers into thinking there was a chance he would sign, and then obviously had no intentions at all of doing so that is wrong. I don’t wish injury on the kid, but I do hope he ends up having to sign for a mere fraction of what we offered him

by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 11:10 AM CDT reply actions  

Ok just a guess

but I can’t believe that his advisors, advised him to turn down that offer, I think Boras would have accepted it. So to me the kid never had any real intentions of signing. What would it have taken $8mill., $10mill.,?? What I’m getting at is there was obviously a “talk” before the pick between the front office and his “people”, and knowing the relationship between said people and our front office you have to think we were VERY comfortable with the numbers given. For the kid to turn down top 5 money he never had any REAL intentions to sign

by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

For the kid to turn down top 5 money he never had any REAL intentions to sign

I keep coming back to this conclusion.

It’s not Homo Economicus, but we don’t live in an economic model either.

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Aug 18, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

did he have zero intentions

or was he asking for an additional million dollars?

by SteveP on Aug 18, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

In fact even last night JD said

that both sides were very honest and up front with each other. they just could not get the deal done.

Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."

by LBBRangerFan on Aug 18, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

to me, i read that as

“we offered him the most we thought he was worth, a top 5 bonus in the draft and he thought he was worth more than that when he was, at best, the 4th best high school RP in the draft behind matzek, turner, wheeler, etc”

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Taking steroids is only gonna make him whiff on those sliders in the dirt with more fury." -thedirkatron

by knockoutking on Aug 18, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agree

This is just some kid who probably had bad advice from his agents or is just not quite mature enough to realize the ramifications of his actions.

Will I be annoyed if he’s the #1 pick in two years? Yeah. But will I be angry? No. And he’ll look like a genius. If after two years he isn’t all that he was cracked up to be, then the Rangers will have saved $4 million dollars thanks to him.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Aug 18, 2009 11:16 AM CDT reply actions  

that is bullshit

if the kid isnt mature enough to realize that he is turning down 4 million dollars and wont let himself override whatever bullshit his agent may be telling him then i wouldnt want him on my team anyways

by dustinvandeman on Aug 18, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, I agree with that as well

You have to worry about the maturity of a kid who would turn down $4 million. He’s either an idiot or way too arrogant for his own good, and neither bodes well for future learning and development. And I’d imagine that became a concern with the F.O. as negotiations started looking worse.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Aug 18, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

i dont hope purke gets hurt

but i do hope that he sucks at TCU and gets selected in the 8th round for slot and then goes on to never make the majors

by dustinvandeman on Aug 18, 2009 11:16 AM CDT reply actions  

+1

no need for him to get hurtr

After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL

by MayurP on Aug 18, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

give the kid a break

JD said he had no problems w/ Purke / his family / his rep’s; let the kid go to college.

and Adam, I had no idea you are a divorce lawyer; I have a whole new degree of respect for you. It obviously has helped you deal with temper tantrums thrown by ‘adults.’ Godspeed, Counsel.

keep on rockin' in the free world !

by mkassio on Aug 18, 2009 11:23 AM CDT reply actions  

per Richard Justice
I’m sure the Purke family believes it was justified asking whatever they asked for, reportedly around $4.7 million. Good for them. If he has great career at TCU, he might get just as much money in 2011. However, the attrition rate on young pitchers is high, especially for young pitchers.

 That’s the first time I had seen his demand at $4.7M.

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by willamos2 on Aug 18, 2009 11:31 AM CDT reply actions  

read somewhere he wanted the same deal turner got

turner got 4.7 from the tiggers i think

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Taking steroids is only gonna make him whiff on those sliders in the dirt with more fury." -thedirkatron

by knockoutking on Aug 18, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Turner got a ML deal IIRC

I think he wanted the same bonus but Purke doesn’t realize Turner doesn’t get that all up front. Its paid out over 4 years I believe

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

yea somehow i missed he got a ML deal

slipped my mind totally read in the other thread it bumps the total value to 5.5 mil

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Taking steroids is only gonna make him whiff on those sliders in the dirt with more fury." -thedirkatron

by knockoutking on Aug 18, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd heard it was more there was more than a million

between the two sides from TR. Someone is getting it wrong.

That's why they call them business sox

by egriffey on Aug 18, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Judging by yesterday, it's probably TR.

J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM

Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.

by LSJ on Aug 18, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I heard the Rangers upped their offer at the last minute to 4 million

So they probably were a mil apart most of the day. Rangers offering 3.5-3.75 and Purke wanting 4.5-4.75

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can't stop staring at that picture

long enough to read what you’re saying

That's why they call them business sox

by egriffey on Aug 18, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

dude

that’s actually kind of creepy.

You just don't sit in a rocking chair, when you've built a revolution.

by Escher on Aug 18, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just wish

I could get her in my van. Just once.

That's why they call them business sox

by egriffey on Aug 18, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

if he turned it down

b/c of $700K, that’s an epic fail cosidering the risks. Not to mention tax rates will likely be higher in a couple of years…

by SteveP on Aug 18, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

And no income tax in Texas

That's why they call them business sox

by egriffey on Aug 18, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

700K was the difference?

If that’s the case, Purke messed up big time.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Aug 18, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just think he's an idiot.

I mean, TCU? He chooses to live in Ft. Worth and attend that horny frog school? Did he have no other scholarship offers?

by FuturePants on Aug 18, 2009 11:31 AM CDT reply actions  

God.

Please not the faux Dallas vs. Ft. Worth rivalry meme again.

"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009

by ghtd36 on Aug 18, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's not faux.

I actually dislike Ft. Worth. But please, try to take this as light-hearted.

by FuturePants on Aug 18, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Than feel free to stay out

That's why they call them business sox

by egriffey on Aug 18, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

This

Stay in Dallas. Try not to drown when it rains over there.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Aug 18, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

What does this even mean?
Try not to drown when it rains over there.

And I can assure you I don’t ever choose to go to Ft. Worth.

by FuturePants on Aug 18, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Most people in Dallas think they are much better

That people that live in Tarrant County. Hence your nose is turned up in the air. Not everyone in Dallas is like this but can we please stop it with this whole Dallas/Ft. Worth thing. Fine you don’t like it on our side but keep it quiet and move on.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Aug 18, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok

The only reason you are defensive is because you know I’m right. Bam.

by FuturePants on Aug 18, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wrong

Wish Dallas had Ft. Worth’s downtown scene instead of the crap they have now.

"There is the Vegetarian Hot Pocket for those of us who don't want to eat meat, but would still like diarrhea." Jim Gaffigan

by Suicide Prince on Aug 18, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

At least you are consistent

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whatever

Only in your dreams.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Aug 18, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's a joke, guys.

Chill the fuck out. You love Ft. Worth. Congratulations.

by FuturePants on Aug 18, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

you know who else didn't get any scholarship offers other than TCU?

Ladainian Tomlinson

Way to go, Big 12!

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by willamos2 on Aug 18, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Also why Griffin went to Baylor is because Dennis Franchione refused to pay him any attention. WTG, A&M.

by FuturePants on Aug 18, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I never wished him harm

and I really don’t care as much as most on here do about the non-signing… mainly because I’m geeked about what’s going on with the playoff race.

Way to not lurk and instead shit all over yourself during your first fanshot.

-FirebatM3 to Ryan2907. 6/3/09.

by SarasotaRanger on Aug 18, 2009 11:36 AM CDT reply actions  

I don't wish harm on the kid

But I do hope that today when he woke up he was absolutely sick to his stomach realizing he just turned down the opportunity of a lifetime and a shit load of guaranteed money and sometime about October when instead of living the college life he dreamed about he is working his ass off in some gym late at night and it hits him that he could be doing this for a pro team and getting paid instead of a college team.

Absolute stupidest fucking decision i have ever heard a 18 year old make. Turn down 4 million dollars and a chance to play pro baseball so you can go to TCU of all places (and thats not a knock on TCU by the way I love the campus and love Ft Worth)

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 11:41 AM CDT reply actions  

+1

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Taking steroids is only gonna make him whiff on those sliders in the dirt with more fury." -thedirkatron

by knockoutking on Aug 18, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

I think there are sensible reasons to pursue a college education, but I find it hard to believe that he made his decision based on purely educational grounds.

It’s disappointing, but he isn’t a bad person for making a decision I disagree with. He didn’t harm anyone outside of (potentially) himself.

by jwiscarson on Aug 18, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rangers acquire Pudge...

Per Michael Irvin Show…

Could be in uniform as soon as tonight.

by N41D on Aug 18, 2009 11:55 AM CDT reply actions  

What?

J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM

Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.

by LSJ on Aug 18, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

You serious clark?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Still makes me laugh, every time.

"There is the Vegetarian Hot Pocket for those of us who don't want to eat meat, but would still like diarrhea." Jim Gaffigan

by Suicide Prince on Aug 18, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Same here

Solid gold.

"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT

by WestTxAg06 on Aug 18, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess that's where

all that Puke money is going

That's why they call them business sox

by egriffey on Aug 18, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

It would be nice to see him in a Ranger uniform again ...

but that likely means Richardson is sent down or DFA’d, which is a shame.

by Athos on Aug 18, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

he got his pension he should be happy

he aint a major leaguer, what the problem?

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Aug 18, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

He played well last night.

It would be nice to see him get an extended stay.

by Athos on Aug 18, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

he's a 220 hitter in AAA who is 28...

what the hell is nice about an extended stay on a playoff contending team…

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Aug 18, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

If we really have accquired him, I kinda feel sorry for Teagarden.

He may pretty much have sucked in part-time duty this year, but I think his approach has been decent and he deserves a chance to show what he’s got with Salty out.

J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM

Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.

by LSJ on Aug 18, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought he should have been able to show what he had with Salty still in. Salty’s been pretty bad this season.

by Athos on Aug 18, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also

Pudge has sucked serious balls this year.

.251/.280/.382 – YAY, another guy incapable of taking a walk this season!

J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM

Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.

by LSJ on Aug 18, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Playoff experience

IMO that adds a ton to those slash stats you just posted.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Meh.

J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM

Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.

by LSJ on Aug 18, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even so, he still makes Hank look like Barry freakin' Bonds....

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 18, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for addressing this.

kling klang king of the rim ram room

by dustym on Aug 18, 2009 12:21 PM CDT reply actions  

I will argue with AJM on a lot of things

but major kudos to him for stepping up on this issue.

Wishing harm or anything bad to Purke (and/or his family) is beyond classless and I’m glad somebody had the onions to stand up and say so.

Also, very chickenshat on Jamey’s part for saying " Purke will be getting settled in his dorm room and making plans to hit West Berry Street sometime this week to buy a Horned Frogs hoodie, some purple sanitary socks, and an Economics 101 textbook."

Your boy Daniels didn’t get the job done on this one. If you are going to make sure everybody knows that JD should get credit for Smoak, Borbon, Ross et al, he sure as hell gets the blame for drafting/not getting Purke signed.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 18, 2009 12:47 PM CDT reply actions  

I'll half-agree with you, Josey.

I didn’t care much for Jamey’s editorializing (although I understand the fan frustration with him not signing).

I don’t think you can lay all the blame at JD’s feet, though. We’ve heard that he was offered top-four money to sign here. If we offered him $4M and he wanted $5M — granted that’s not very much in the long run — I don’t know that this is truly JD’s fault. The Rangers have shown a willingness to go way over slot recommendations, but not cave to every draftee’s demands.

Don’t we have to draw a line somewhere?

by jwiscarson on Aug 18, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

jwiscarson

This is an organization that builds thru the draft and if you don’t think you are going to be able to sign somebody like Purke, you don’t draft him.

JD wasted $ 6 million on Cat this year, another $ 5.75 million on VPadilla this year (along with his buy-out), $ 4.5 million on JJennings last year, $ 3.8 million on Broussard last year and another $ 1 million-plus on Fukomori last year as well.

That’s $ 20 million that was wasted by the #5 media market team with a small market payroll.

When a top 5-6 player in the draft falls in your lap and your drafting 14th, you do what you have to do to sign him and if you’re not prepared to do that, you don’t draft him.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 18, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well that's on Nolan too ya know

your boy. It’s on the whole org, not one guy.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Plus, JD doesn't have any power, remember the Glorious Day?

Josey’s logic is so flawed it’s comical at this point?

"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT

by WestTxAg06 on Aug 18, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

So Nolan gets full credit for the Smoak & Ross draft?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 18, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why does anyone have to get full credit?

and why does anyone have to get full blame? They all work together up there ya know.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nolan is not in the War Room making active or informed decisions on Draft Day.

That’s JD’s baby.

JD drafted a player they couldn’t sign and wears this 100%.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 18, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

How could JD make the decision if you said Nolan took all the power away from him?

This is the first time that you’ve ever given JD credit for making a decision after the alleged “Glorious Day”.

"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT

by WestTxAg06 on Aug 18, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know this how?

Nolan was the one who talked to Purke’s advisers before the draft to get a gauge on what his demands were. He was very much involved in what was going on — he also saw a couple prospects pitch in person IIRC.

It’s not a black and white world. They all share in the blame and the success of this draft.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Josey

The Great Matt Purke War is over. Move on and let the healing begin. Besides, the team is winning, and that’s all that matters, right?

Officially gay for Neftali Feliz

by RCCook on Aug 18, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

And besides

Purke’s just a “magic bean,” and we all know you could give a shit about those anyway, except as a cudgel to bludgeon JD with.

Officially gay for Neftali Feliz

by RCCook on Aug 18, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Perhaps the same fern in JD's office that was making decisions at the trade deadline in July

was conducting negotiations with Purke?

I guess the trade for Pudge means JD is back in the office today

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 18, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just check the standings.

"When he came up with that ball, hop or not, he looked exactly like a homeless guy who had found a long cigarette butt – only to discover it was soaked with gasoline. He could not have thrown out anyone there, even though Cust moves at about the speed of soil erosion." - Ed C.

by inactive lsb user on Aug 18, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hank F has been carrying This Thing

"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT

by WestTxAg06 on Aug 18, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

Josey is the one who tries to assign full credit to Nolan for everything. He doesn’t seem to grasp to the concept that JD and Nolan work together to improve the organization and that they both provide value to the club.

"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT

by WestTxAg06 on Aug 18, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Then it's all good..

If Nolan and JD have a good working relationship that seems to have this team trending upward like a Hannah Montana single, then that’s all I care about.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 18, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh really fool?

Wasn’t all the reports we read when we drafted him that Nolan had spoken to Purke and was given assurances that he would sign? Wasn’t Purke advised by the same group that is Nolans agent?

Yes JD gets some blame although if we had to dole out percentages I would say the blame goes like this
Purke/his parents/his advisors = 60%
Nolan = 25%
JD/rest of front office and scouts = 15%

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

JD drafted a player the Rangers couldn't sign.

JD wears this 100%.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 18, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

JD took that risk, but it was a risk worth taking.

Instead of going for low-ceiling, signability types, we went for a high risk, high reward prospect. It didn’t work out in this instance, but I still like the strategy.

JD may have made a wrong move during negotiations or maybe the team didn’t do enough research on Purke, but we don’t really know that. But the decision to draft a high-ceiling player like Purke still makes sense. Unlike most teams, we still have a strong farm system despite losing our first round draft pick.

by cstorm15 on Aug 18, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Farm system

The farm system ranking doesn’t matter, according to Josey. Wins and losses at the major-league level are much more important.

Oh, look- 17 games above .500 and currently qualifying for the playoffs! Guess that JD’s doing pretty well after all.

Officially gay for Neftali Feliz

by RCCook on Aug 18, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

So once again

Something bad happens = JDs fault
Something good happens = All Nolans doing

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

JD is in charge of the draft, bigsteve.

JD screwed this one up.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 18, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

After the "Glorious Day", you have NEVER assigned JD any power whatsoever

But now, all of a sudden, he’s back to having the sole power over the draft?

I don’t expect you to respond to this since you’ve ignored every other time I’ve mentioned this today, but your logic is totally flawed. JD doesn’t have any power until something bad happens, then all of a sudden it’s his fault?

"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT

by WestTxAg06 on Aug 18, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

WTA

Because of that glorious day in February, we no longer see $ 20 million being wasted on VP, Broussard, JJennings, Cat, and Fukomori nor do we see a defense leading the AL in errors nor do we have a pitching staff giving up 967 runs nor do we have a team out of post-season contention on Memorial Day.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 18, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Funny, though

Because you predicted Andrus would suck defensively and that the pitching staff would give up in the neighborhood of 1000 runs.

Not a whole lot of faith in your boy Nolan, Josey.

Do you really think everyone here has that short a memory, or can’t see through your shtick these days? You’re not even a good bullshit artist anymore- you’ve been reduced to flinging shit like a monkey at the zoo, and hoping someone thinks it’s a Picasso.

Officially gay for Neftali Feliz

by RCCook on Aug 18, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I underestimated Nolan (and nobody trumpeted his greatness more than me)

and thought his claims of this team winning 87 games was a bs attempt to sell tickets.

After seeing what he has done with this organization, I will never underestimate him again.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 18, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do you believe the team should never draft players that have signability issues?

It’s a simple question. I’m not sure why you’re afraid to answer.

by cstorm15 on Aug 18, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was under the impression

that it was Nolan who actually talked to Purke on draft day, I would have to assume signability was part of that conversation

"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"-Wayne Gretzky"-Michael Scott

by ReallyCreativeScreenName on Aug 18, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

Purke and Nolan have the same rep, so you’d think Brilliant Fucking Front Office God Nolan would have had the sense to gauge Purke’s signability.

This one’s right up there with Nolan’s decision to send JD to deliver the position change move to Young, while knowing that Young didn’t respect the messenger. Kinda makes you wonder about Nolan’s competence to manage This Thing.

Officially gay for Neftali Feliz

by RCCook on Aug 18, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm disappointed in you Josey

I thought you were ready to have an actual discussion. Instead, you’re back to the same tired JD rhetoric.

Why don’t you try answering one of my questions (if you dare).

by cstorm15 on Aug 18, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Theres nothing else to say besides you are wrong

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

So you birds give full credit

to Nolan for the draft of Smoak & Ross?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 18, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Full.......no

He gets partial credit sure. But I don’t recall any mentions of him calling Smoak or Ross’ agents the day of the draft. In fact I believe he was all over Cashner right? Whoever the TCU reliever was.

Just like JD gets some blame here Nolan gets some credit for last years success. But when we hear how Nolan personally talked to the guy we drafted and who had outrageous demands but we still picked him anyway it leads me to believe that Nolan gave some strong imput that he would sign if we ponied up the money. And I believe a top 5 signing bonus qualifies as ponying up the money. Thats why he gets more blame than JD. Notice I gave a majority of the blame to Purke and his entourage so im not laying this all on Nolans feet Josey.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also whats wrong with that quote from Newberg you posted?

Isn’t that what he will be doing next week?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll agree with most of that

The Rangers took a risk in drafting Purke because we knew he’d be a tough sign. Did we misread that risk? No one really knows. Do the Rangers share some blame in not getting Purke signed? Yes.

But I’m glad we are a franchise that takes these risks. JD shares some blame for not getting Purke signed, but drafting him was still the right move.

by cstorm15 on Aug 18, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

How was it Daniels' fault that the deal didn't get done?

Remember that Glorious Day where Nolan took the keys away from him and became the true decision-maker?

If JD screwed this deal up, you’ve been wrong all this time praising Nolan for being the man responsible for all the good moves. But if you’re right about Nolan having all the power, then it’s YOUR BOY who didn’t get the job done.

"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT

by WestTxAg06 on Aug 18, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Come on

Sometimes these prospects just have too high a opinion on their worth, and Purke was way out of line on this. Maybe, he just wants to be a college kid anyway. Every Franchise finds players that won’t sign.

by SanDiegoKev on Aug 18, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

As I said this morning...

…it is part of the risk you run when you draft someone who slides because of ridiculous demands.

If you think he’s head-and-shoulders above everyone else, and you think you can get him for well-above-slot (but less than what he’s asking), then I think it makes sense to grab him.

This is disappointing. It is a roll of the dice they took that didn’t work out. They offered him more than all but 4 players in the draft got as a bonus. The majority of the guys asking for a “Porcello deal” take less, and I’m sure they figured there was a good chance Purke would, as well.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 18, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with Adam's advisory

But if the tone creates an arena for whatever the hell is bothering people today to cause them to vent and take shots at each other, let it spew out.

The kid (and or his family) made a choice. Chances are, that choice will not materially affect the current or future fortunes of the Texas Rangers.

If you have ever had a family member refuse good advice and head off in their own direction, you’d pretty much have to accept Purke’s decision as unexpected (by a lot of people) or something that happens (and it does).

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -

"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce

by Ed Coffin on Aug 18, 2009 1:16 PM CDT reply actions  

I apologize...

I wished that on him last night. I was pissed off and I said it out of anger. I should have not went that far.

However, I do wish that he gets no where close to what he was offered this year and he regrest his decision on a professional view for the rest of his life.

He made a HUGE mistake.

Stop caring about the color of your glove and focus on your pitching.

by Texasportsfan on Aug 18, 2009 1:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Heh

Maybe I shouldn’t have said that last night, I was in a pissed off mood to begin with before that news even broke. Is it classless? Sure, but like I said last night, I don’t really get why some care. After I posted on here I didn’t think about Purke again and in a week, I’m sure I won’t even remember that I was actually pissed. And again, like I said last night, I could wish all I want (for a lot of things, not just Purke), but it’s going to be all in vain. Wish in one hand, shit in another, you know? You think it’s classless, then ok, I agree, but I just don’t understand the big deal. Certainly don’t understand another post addressing the topic

"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"-Wayne Gretzky"-Michael Scott

by ReallyCreativeScreenName on Aug 18, 2009 1:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Although I will say

that I understand why Adam cares, so I apologize…And to everyone else, I’m soooooooooo sorry

"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"-Wayne Gretzky"-Michael Scott

by ReallyCreativeScreenName on Aug 18, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

my take on purke debacle!!!

1. LSB blog participants are mostly hardcore ranger fans….they’re just blowing off some steam making comments "wishing arm falls off"…nobody means any harm on purke, look I was pissed last night and my anger has not wavered and truth be told I wish purke gets a great education at tcu but never earns $4 million dollars in his lifetime…and has to find a real job like the rest of us!!

2 the rangers knew when they drafted purke what his demands were, if they they weren’t prepared to meet those demands they had no business drafting that particular player…what especially adds egg on their face if its true, ranger management blew this one because they were only $750k apart how moronic is that?…..$750K is peanuts in baseball money

3. when draft came along and rangers signed purke and sheppers, I cant remember exactly but someone made comment cant remember exactly if was someone in baseball media, blogger or fan …something to the effect that with hicks financial troubles, this particular comment paraphrasing basically insinuated that rangers drafted players with intention of not signing them to defer having to pay those draft picks and making rangers more attractable to sell…well that particular comment got pure hell then, now I wonder is there’s some credence to that comment …..insulting yes, irresponsible maybe, but I cant help that thought lingers in my head is exactly that whats hicks is trying to pull?

by tx ranger fan on Aug 18, 2009 7:21 PM CDT reply actions  

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