Texas Rangers trade for Pudge Rodriguez
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 18, 2009 11:59 AM CDT
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PrintJeff Wilson says that the Rangers have all but completed a deal with the Houston Astros that will bring Pudge Rodriguez back to Texas.
More details as they become available...
UPDATE -- T.R. Sullivan says the deal is for two "mid-tier" prospects, and that Pudge will be the backup to Taylor Teagarden.
UPDATE II -- If you recall, in late July, 2001, the Rangers traded disappointing veteran free agent signee Andres Galarraga to San Francisco for Todd Ozias, Chris Magruder, and Erasmo Ramirez. I'd expect the price the Rangers pay in terms of prospects to be something similar to that.
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Will he be in a Ranger uniform tonight?!?
If not, when? Is this pending a physical?
I want to be there his first game here, regardless of whether or not he plays.
"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball
by rangerdanger on Aug 18, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
same here
i have infield tickets in the front row tonight and really want to see him there… is Houston at home or away right now?
Maysin...
did I ever tell you that you are very handsome and successful and overall a great person? Did I tell you that I’m not doing anything tonight? :)
"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball
by rangerdanger on Aug 18, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah!
I feel bad for Richardson, but at least he’ll have a good memory to share, even if last night was it for him at the major-league level. Hopefully, it’s not.
Officially gay for Neftali Feliz
I was think last night that
he is going to have a good story to tell his kids. He happened to be at the right place at the right time.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
darn no more Heidi.....lol
La naiba cu Monkey Rally !!!!!
by Captain Fubar on Aug 18, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
This morning ...
I wasn’t able to remember his first name. But I was sure able to remember his wife’s first name! :)
by northtexan95 on Aug 18, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
she was kinda cute
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 18, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
you feel bad for a guy that's going to go down with a .500 batting average
in his only stint in the majors, contributing to a win for a team in the playoff race???
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 18, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Abso-fuckin'-lutely
It’s a good day
"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09
"We’re tired of hearing how bad the Rangers pitching staff is and we’re doing all we can to change it." - Kevin Millwood, 5/6/09
That's great news!!
"I'll explain, and I'll be sure to use small words so that you'll be sure to understand. You wart-hog-faced-buffoon!"
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Aug 18, 2009 12:01 PM CDT reply actions
Saltalamacchia must be pretty laid up.
This is a nice acquisition, curious who’s departing…
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Aug 18, 2009 12:02 PM CDT reply actions
i doubt even that much
Pudge was their version of Andruw Jones.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
The Rangers really need to examine thier exercise/conditioning program
and the water.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
You have to wonder if our training staff is either
A.) That good, that they’re finding this problem, while other teams aren’t.
or
B.) Overdiagnosing
or
C.) Responsible in some way.
If it's one of those three, my blind bet would be on C.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
Yep.
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.
B makes way more sense
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
I think what makes sense
is that a lot more people have this syndrome but AREN’T being diagnosed. For example, I’m pretty sure I have it – but I can’t get a doctor to agree with me. Hah.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 18, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I think B is playing some role.
Just because you don’t see this being diagnosed nearly as often for other teams. But maybe I’m just not plugged in enough to other teams.
by GhettoBear04 on Aug 18, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Like I said in the last thread...
Too bad for Teagarden. Huge PR move for the Rangers obviously, but I would’ve kind of liked to have been able to say we gove Tea a shot this year.
I’m really interested to see what we gave up here.
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.
I bet this doesn't affect Tea much
I’d bet that Tea stays on the 2 of 3 and Pudge catches the 3rd. Basically the Salty/Tea split.
What do voluntary mean?
Yeah
Gotta be a split like that. Tea will be fine.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 12:08 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I can't imagine the plan is to bring Pudge in to start...
He’s been as bad as Blalock (minus the power…Yuck) with the bat this year…
Rudy will fix that, won't he?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
Yep
.251/.280(!!!)/.382 line this year (good for a .285 wOBA).
Virtually no improvement over Salty or Tea.
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.
we didnt necessarily require improvement
we needed a capable backup who had experience handling a young staff. id say this qualifies.
Yeah, if he's used as a backup, good pickup
But if Wash makes him the starting catcher, I’ll be slightly upset.
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.
I honestly doubt Wash does that.
He has to get used to the staff and hopefully won’t do more than 1 start a week for the first two weeks. Then do the 1 out of three split if that. It’s still Teas starting job.
Learn to Read
Read the article on the Rangers website, Pudge was informed he is the BACKUP
by TheHuntforRedOctober on Aug 18, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Hopefully, this will kick start his season too
WOOHOO, I’m pumped for purely sentimental reasons.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
Hey Adam
Stop just throwing up summaries of other blogs, that are obviously way better and more in depth than LSB!
You just don't sit in a rocking chair, when you've built a revolution.
Absolutely was...
Just got through reading that last post…all the way through. Wow.
"There is the Vegetarian Hot Pocket for those of us who don't want to eat meat, but would still like diarrhea." Jim Gaffigan
by Suicide Prince on Aug 18, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't want to go look at Pudge's stat line this year
I’d rather just stay in an ignorant state of happiness for a few minutes.
Yeah!
Pudge ends his career as a Ranger in the World Series. Yet another good story to tag onto this season.
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
I believe that Tea will get the majority of the starts
but we will see what the gut has to say about it.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Aug 18, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
what the fuck does TR know?
he’s in my doghouse.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Okay, good.
(puts pitchfork back in closet)
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.
Uh oh, hold it ...
Now T.R. sez he’s the new bullpen coach.
by shroomer on Aug 18, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Oh No!
JD traded Maddux for Pudge!
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
Wouldn that be Andy Hawkins?
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.
pitching coach
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
DON'T EVEN JOKE ABOUT THAT
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Aug 18, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
sweet
even if he doesnt play all that well it will be nice to see him finiish in a Ranger uni. Cant be any worse than our production at the plate weve had from catchers so far anyway.
Teagarden
Teagarden better still be the starter. Pudge has been all sorts of suck.
I didn't see this on ESPN?
You mean Farve coming back for the 17th time is worth more airspace than Pudge coming back to the Rangers? Ludicrious!
I bet Murphy gives it to him for free.
Just out of repsect.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
Wonder if he'll go back to 28
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.
Crap, right.
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.
That won't work either.
The Rangers have retired #3 in honor of Joaquin Arias.
by Basehead on Aug 18, 2009 12:31 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Maybe Pudge will take #3 and all those fans who bought ARod jerseys
can wear them again and say they’re Puge jerseys instead. Kind of like when Pacman Jones took Julius Jones number. Gotta love jersey recycling, especially in a time of recession.
I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.
by DerekSTheRed on Aug 18, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
When Jason Kidd was traded away from the Mavs back in the day
I put a piece of athletic tape over the “KIDD” on the back of my authentic Mavs jersey and wrote “DANILOVIC” on it. Then everyone made fun of me.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
I bet
He just sticks with 12… I don’t think Pudge is of the mindset that he has to make waves by getting 7 back. Grif isn’t wearing 24 in SEA these days is he?
"if daniels was fired today, he would almost be sure to get another shot somewhere else as a GM
i dont know if you can say the same thing abotu RW" - knockoutking
The Rangers could have a ceremony where Murhpy takes off his jersey to reveal his new #77 jersey and gives #7 back to Pudge a. la. Borque/Esposito.
I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.
by DerekSTheRed on Aug 18, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Can you change numbers mid season in MLB?
me and a buddy were discussing this this weekend, ie can murph switch #’s midseason if he wanted to?
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
me were wondering the same thing.
Of course, a buddy and I think it’s not allowed.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
yup, thats what we concluded too
neither of us know though it was our guesstimate
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
Didn't some numbers get changed midseason in 2007 after the Salty trade?
I mean, the Teix trade…?
There’s no crying in baseball but pedicures are fine! --- BigGuns
That would be great!
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
by txranger7 on Aug 18, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You know
Intellectually I’m not a big fan of this move.
But the little kid in me who watched Pudge’s debut is amazingly giddy.
Pudge was my favorite Ranger from his first game against the White Sox 18 years ago.
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Aug 18, 2009 12:09 PM CDT reply actions 6 recs
Wreck'd
and I agree completely. Hopefully the sentimental feelings will jump start his bat for a two and a half month run. Plus I like that he will be in the clubhouse with all of the young kids during this chase.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Aug 18, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
This is how I feel
The Rangers have a decent backup, the team isn’t really better, but it’s Pudge.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
I don't have much problem with it intellectually
I think it’s altogether possible that Pudge makes a good contribution here, definitely moreso than a lot of near free backup types.
by Brett Perryman on Aug 18, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess it depends what the team's plans were
I’d have been happy enough rolling with Tea and Richardson, but if they decided they needed someone with more experience back there, especially down a stretch run and possibly into the playoffs, the Pudge is probably the best acquisition out there.
I do think that the team is stronger going into the playoffs with guys like Vizquel, Eddie, and Pudge on the roster, given its overall youth.
Go Rice Owls!
Anyone seen him play recently?
I havent seen him in a couple years. How is he behind the plate? I cant imagine hes still got that fricken laser beam attached to his shoulder.
he's much better defensively
than he is offensively.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
I can't imagine we gave up much for him
his value is probably around that of ’09 Andruw Jones or ’07 Sammy Sosa.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Does this increase the chance that Pudge goes in the HOF as a Ranger? Was there any doubt? Do the Rangers have to make it to the World Series to make it a lock?
I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.
Is it a given that he will be in the HOF?
Performance wise, he most definelty should, but if that performance was artificially enhanced…
by Anonymous New Guy on Aug 18, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
he's seemingly
escaped that criticism, i dont know how but he doesnt get brought up that often for whatever reason. perhaps it will once it gets closer for him to be eligible
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by studcrackers on Aug 18, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I think its because he's a catcher
and was never a huge HR hitter at the level of a McGwire, Bonds, or even Palmeiro. The reason a lot of writers liked him was because of things that steroids couldn’t help him with.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Plus, compared to the other high profile users, he never did anything to make folks dislike him
Bonds had a sorry, surly disposition to begin with. Palmeiro was always sort of standoffish and then wagged his finger. McGwire was arguably in good shape popularity wise until he refused to “talk about the past”. Clemens had been alienating fans since the 80s.
Meanwhile, everyone loved Pudge. The writers loved him because of his intangibles and catching ability. He was always a fan favorite and seemed to truly appreciate the fans. Because of that, both writers and fans are willing to look past what he may or may not have done. FWIW, some of the other likely users like Bagwell, Biggio, etc. fit that same bill.
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
Well that might go hand in hand
No one really bugs Pudge about steroid talk so he never has anything to hide. I’d say he’s there someone like McGwire who everyone loved until the steroids issue came up.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
No
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
He was pretty serviceable last year
Once he got past that yankee stadium debut thing
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Please be Blalock, please be Blalock
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.
everybody chant together
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
Where would Berkman play?
Center field?
I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.
by DerekSTheRed on Aug 18, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, Houston shouldn't be able to pass up a chance to accquire a guy who can carry Their Thing since May
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.
So Blalock goes to the bench?
wishful thinking.
I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.
by DerekSTheRed on Aug 18, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
that would be a good deal for Houston
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
that would make me really mad
not matt puke/nolan/sanders mad but mad
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
b/c i really like Vallejo and after what he went through the last while it would be a real shame and probably not real good for him
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
So, my guesses as to who is going to Houston...
Brennan Garr and Michael Schlact.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 18, 2009 12:12 PM CDT reply actions
Isn't Schlact on the DL?
Is he worth a AA pitcher?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
Two mid-tier prospects?
Really? That seems like an overpayment for an old, not good catcher.
if by mid-tier
you mean between first tier and 7th tier, then yes, I’d say two fourth tier prospects are in play.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
depends on their definition of mid-tier
if it is moreland and boscan or players of that nature im fuckin pissed
if its garr and schlact i could care less
by dustinvandeman on Aug 18, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Hopefully he means mid-tier
based on all of baseball and they are in fact lower-tier in the Rangers Org.
I suspect it will be...
…two pitchers who are pretty much not on the radar screen.
The Astros want young arms, and they probably figure they’ll take their chances on a couple of live arms who will probably don’t consider real “prospects.”
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 18, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
my thoughts as well
we’re only using him for 2 months
if we gave up anything possibly useful (high upside) im gonna be upset
you watch your mouth.
;)
"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball
by rangerdanger on Aug 18, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, Hicks might have just helped with the low attendence Monday Night
The place will go nuts when he is back on the field.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
I think Pudge is worth
the draft rights to Matt Purke.
by twinkilling on Aug 18, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
That's great!!
It was a mistake (in hindsight) getting rid of him.
by GhostofGaryHogeboom on Aug 18, 2009 12:18 PM CDT reply actions
If you'd told me this winter that the Rangers would wind up trading *for* a catcher...
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
I'll guess Telis and Phillips.
But I would love to see a certain someone’s reaction if it were Marcus Lemon and someone else.
Hahaha
That would be awesome. Lemonheads would explode, mass hysteria, Rangers and Astros making a trade!
I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.
by DerekSTheRed on Aug 18, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Tomas Telis?
Isn’t he a pretty legit prospect? Why would we give him up for a broken down 40 day rental?
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
For realz?
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.
I know nothing.
But that’s a pretty solid guess based on what we know.
by NoNameOnCard on Aug 18, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
what do we know?
I would guess it is a guy or two from the glut of fringe guys who may make the 40, a guy like Zach Phillips.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
I never got to commend you
for the Ball Four reference after last Friday’s heartbreaker against Boston. I was too pissed to say anything in the post game thread, but I enjoyed the Joe Schultz reference.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
This wouldn't hurt my feelings.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
Nope
Corey Young is are LOOGY anyway.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Aug 18, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
or maybe Garr and Arias
so we free up a spot on the 40 for him…
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Of course
anyone from our 40 has to clear waivers also. I don’t know if Arias would slide through completely
Go Rice Owls!
He may have already done so.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
Richardson will be dropped from the 40
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 18, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude might wind up with a career .500 BA
Kind of cool that he got his night of glory before the inevitable DFA hammer dropped.
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.
Something great about last night
was the fan’s cheering after his first base hit. Very classy.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
Why do you think it will be 2 players?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
missed that
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
All that intense scouting and research
Down the shitter
by oc on Aug 18, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Best news of the day for me so far.
I’ve gotten to see him being down here in Houston, but it’ll be even better knowing he’s a Ranger again. I remember watching his debut.
Tom Grieve is my hero.
Rodriguez, 387, is hitting .251 with eight home runs and 34 RBI in 93 games and 344 plate appearances for the Astros.
I knew pudge was older but i had no idea. he looks good for a man of 387
Galloway just said...
His people are telling him Pudge asked Houston for this move…
Wow, really?
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.
It just feels right.
He’ll probably hang up his cleats after this year and end it as a Ranger. Hopefully after taking them to a WS run. It’s story book man.
Didn't he say he
wanted to finish as a Ranger?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
I was suspecting that
Pudge probably wants to retire a Ranger, and this is like a confluence of completely unexpected events that would allow him to do so.
Go Rice Owls!
and why not?
What is he, 37? This could be his last shot – and to come full circle like this? MFing storybook, man. Yay, Pudge! Yay, Rangers!
absolutely would not surprise me.
Pudge loves this org (or so I believe).
He probably didn’t feel as though he had a chance to get back here, what with Tea, Salty, and Max. He saw his opportunity with Salty down, and asked for the trade.
Ladies and gents...
…the greatest Ranger of all time is coming back home.
"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009
Adam finished the list?
I hadn’t seen that…
by Oracle Galvez on Aug 18, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think we are at #32 or something on that list
eta 2056
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Aug 18, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
lolz
"There is no dignity quite so impressive, and no independence quite so important, as living within your means" - Calvin Coolidge
by hubcityraider on Aug 18, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
his welcome gift
will be a needle to bring back to good ole times in arlington!!!
but this makes me happy
There's something spiritual about baseball — like Mother Nature," Garrido said. "You don't mess with it. And I think before a player can really believe in it, he has to experience it."
by dmurphnextrusygreer on Aug 18, 2009 12:24 PM CDT reply actions
In response to this move
Adam J. Morris cranks out all of the remaining ‘Greatest Ranger rankings’.
by Conjunction on Aug 18, 2009 12:25 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Not a bad move but TT needs to play at least 4 games / week.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
Nice move waiting until AFTER the failed Purke Signing
Gets the fan base pumped up after the letdown… although I’m sure it wasn’t intentional
This
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 18, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't act
Like you knew shit about Purke.
by brettgardner on Aug 18, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Get in your hole and enjoy the moment, gardner
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 18, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Which moment?
The winning baseball, the Pudge signing, the FO failure re: Purke, or the pervasive JD dumbassery?
Or is it your failure in every one of your predictions? If I gave two shits, that might be the best moment to enjoy.
Sadly, I don’t.
by brettgardner on Aug 18, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Purke
Was not an FO failure. It was a massive Purke family/advisors/college GF fail.
by Conjunction on Aug 18, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Gauged by your number of responses and disdain of others who engage me in conversation,
you care waaaaaay too much what I have to say.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 18, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Got me.
I care. So, which moment is it?
by brettgardner on Aug 18, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Think of the ovation Pudge gets when
he plays his first game later this week. Ron has to get him into a game before they go on thier roadie.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
Thursday most likely
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Aug 18, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
so...
How much is he making? And how much are we paying? And how much was the difference on missing out on Purke???
"The mystery of the beginning of all things is insoluble by us; and I for one must be content to remain an agnostic" - Charles Darwin, you know who he is...
yep
go to theticket.com
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Aug 18, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions
yes.
you need to be listening to the Ticket online every day.
www.theticket.com Click on listen now.
"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball
by rangerdanger on Aug 18, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
WOOOOOO Pudge!!!!
Just like the good ole days!!
HH is that a sock in your puppet or are you happy to see me?
I dont see the Astros taking back a catcher
isnt Jason Castro one of their top prospects? Imo theyd probably want back some live arms like someone said earlier.
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
Dozer and Benson!
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Aug 18, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Pudge
won’t Pudge be one of the only players to have actually played in a meaning full playoff game. And didn’t he get a ring with that Florida team after he was deemed to old and decrypted to play for the Texas by God Rangers? I think this is an excellent move so that Pudge can add a playoff experienced voice to the clubhouse.
I soloed in the Mile High Club!
Pudge was a key player for the Tigers in 2006.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 18, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
how many playoff games do you think aren't meaningful?
by kevinkinsler on Aug 18, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
x
I think you got my meaning, now didn’t you?
I soloed in the Mile High Club!
good luck charm
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
Made his debut just in time for the playoffs didn't he?
At a ripe old age of 19?
Only if his lady friend
Becomes a ballgirl.
by Conjunction on Aug 18, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Send Richardson down
and keep Heidi.
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
By the way...
Pudge is estimated to be a low-range Type B free agent at the end of the season as of this moment. Link. Could offer arbitration if Salty does need TOS and Max Ramirez still isn’t all there at the end of the year. He’s only making $1.5 million this year, so it wouldn’t be a substantial amount.
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Middle tier is a pretty broad description
They were much more highly regarded than the guys Adam mentioned again. Harang was in the late teens as I recall, Cullen was kind of a sleeeper.
by Brett Perryman on Aug 18, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, now all we have to do it is dust off Juan G. to play DH for Druw
and put Palmerio over at 1b for Hack and we’d be the 1999 Rangers all over again!
And for bonus points, we could put Rusty Greer out there as a Byrd replacement.
Suit up McLemore
"Clearly, the season is over. Fire Daniels, fire Washington, fire Maddux, burn down TBIA." - AJM
by aggierangerfan00 on Aug 18, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Texas Rangers 2009
They’re on a mission from God.
by bhudson on Aug 18, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Luis Alicea and Roberto Kelly
are coaches now, that wouldn’t be too hard to get them here to coach 1B and 3B.
"Clearly, the season is over. Fire Daniels, fire Washington, fire Maddux, burn down TBIA." - AJM
by aggierangerfan00 on Aug 18, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Darren Oliver
available
"There is no dignity quite so impressive, and no independence quite so important, as living within your means" - Calvin Coolidge
by hubcityraider on Aug 18, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
replacing eddie
perfect
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
The red uniforms
Are bringing back the 90s!
The Texas Rangers have stated that they plan to include a ‘Y2K information manual’ within the game programs distributed in Wednesday’s game against the Minnesota Twins. Additionally, the organization is pleased to announce that star-studded boy band ‘The Backstreet Boys’ will play a special concert after the game concludes.
can we bring back
the decent movies that were still being made back in 1999, while also keeping the great tv dramas that emerged this decade? cause that would be ideal…
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
When things get tough in September, Dave Valle will give the club a motivational speech
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
Maybe...
this would be enough of a chemistry addition where we can then dump Hank and no one would give a crap.
Not so much, baylor.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 18, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Definitely.
Although, I don’t think anyone outside of MY would give a shit anyway.
by brettgardner on Aug 18, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
They could have brought in a cracked out hooker with a needle still stuck in her arm
and no one would give a crap if Hank got dumped.
You mean T.R. was inaccurate with his report?
Nonsense…
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by Andy Seiler on Aug 18, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
fuck
now we have to listen to lewin harp on this story for the entire game tonight
by dustinvandeman on Aug 18, 2009 12:50 PM CDT reply actions
Man this topic
Brings the random LSB’ers I’ve never heard of out of the woodworks.
"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball
Ha.
Well played. Welcome. With sarcasm like that, you’ll fit right in.
"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball
by rangerdanger on Aug 18, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
kinda like you
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Cool Icon though
"Clearly, the season is over. Fire Daniels, fire Washington, fire Maddux, burn down TBIA." - AJM
by aggierangerfan00 on Aug 18, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice Avy.
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.
Wow
ESPN.com still does not have anything on this. They have a story about how pudge would like to be a Marlin again…I hate ESPN.
by Anonymous New Guy on Aug 18, 2009 12:51 PM CDT reply actions
nothing has been finalized
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
Jeff (the writer) Wilson disagrees with you.
http://startelegramsports.typepad.com/foul_territory/2009/08/rangers-trade-for-pudge.html
"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin
by utlonghorn24 on Aug 18, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
To clarify:
Sources have confirmed that the Rangers completed a trade Tuesday morning with Houston for Ivan Rodriguez for two minor-leaguers.
"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin
by utlonghorn24 on Aug 18, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
From the Astro's SBNation Blog Cra
MLBFanHouse is reporting, via twitter, that one of the PTBNL is relief pitcher Matt Nevarez.
who is that?
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
hickory reliever
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
so I'm guessing
nothing we should be concerned about losing?
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
he was the fifth untouchable right?
or was that unmentioned, always mixing them up
by kevinkinsler on Aug 18, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
One of the guys in the Hickory 'Pen
Maybe Dirkatron knows something about him.
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.
Wild with good stuff.
Starting to harness it, but he’s a full-time reliever. Better than the piece we got for Eddie a year ago, though.
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by Andy Seiler on Aug 18, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
not a bad name
he made some big strides this year after doing nothing his first three years.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Nevarez gives new meaning to "second tier prospect"
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
Well that changes everything! :)
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
so salty
is out an extended time?
" This is the inning that propels us to the playoffs. Mark it down."
- Rohn Warshington on Jul 27, 2009 9:19 PM EDT
5th inning against the Tigers
no
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
0 for 2 ab03:
According to Wilson’s column:
A source said Rodriguez will serve as the backup for Taylor Teagarden, who has assumed the starting duties with Jarrod Saltalamacchia on the disabled list. Saltalamacchia was placed on the DL on Saturday with arm fatigue and was told today by vascular specialist Dr. Greg Pearl that he has thoracic outlet syndrome.
Saltalamacchia, though, said that he will stretch and rehab the arm over the next few weeks and was told that he could play again this season.
“I’m going to play through it, and hopefully it goes away,” Saltalamacchia said. "He [Pearl] thinks that if I stretch it out and do the rehab, there’s a chance I can overcome it.
"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin
by utlonghorn24 on Aug 18, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Quote fail.
A source said Rodriguez will serve as the backup for Taylor Teagarden, who has assumed the starting duties with Jarrod Saltalamacchia on the disabled list. Saltalamacchia was placed on the DL on Saturday with arm fatigue and was told today by vascular specialist Dr. Greg Pearl that he has thoracic outlet syndrome. Saltalamacchia, though, said that he will stretch and rehab the arm over the next few weeks and was told that he could play again this season. “I’m going to play through it, and hopefully it goes away,” Saltalamacchia said. "He [Pearl] thinks that if I stretch it out and do the rehab, there’s a chance I can overcome it.
"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin
by utlonghorn24 on Aug 18, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
It's in here
http://startelegramsports.typepad.com/foul_territory/2009/08/rangers-trade-for-pudge.html
A source said Rodriguez will serve as the backup for Taylor Teagarden, who has assumed the starting duties with Jarrod Saltalamacchia on the disabled list. Saltalamacchia was placed on the DL on Saturday with arm fatigue and was told today by vascular specialist Dr. Greg Pearl that he has thoracic outlet syndrome.
Saltalamacchia, though, said that he will stretch and rehab the arm over the next few weeks and was told that he could play again this season.
“I’m going to play through it, and hopefully it goes away,” Saltalamacchia said. "He [Pearl] thinks that if I stretch it out and do the rehab, there’s a chance I can overcome it.
“I don’t want my season to end. We’re in the hunt, and I want to help out as much as I can.”
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
You're better at quoting than me.
"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin
by utlonghorn24 on Aug 18, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I work hard
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
It shows. Well done sir.
"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin
by utlonghorn24 on Aug 18, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
According to the linked Wilson article just now, yes.
There’s no crying in baseball but pedicures are fine! --- BigGuns
Salary
So even if it costs the Rangers $500k for the rest of the season for Pudge, at $25/ticket he only has to put 20,000 extra butts in seats. If you think he won’t you’re nuts. Not only is this a good PR move it will be a money maker. By the way, he is a helluva defensive catcher.
With incentives, he is on pace to make about 300k 400k more
Im not sure if Houston has to pay some of that or not. Assuming we pay all of it, he’ll cost us about 900k for the rest of the year. If Houston picks up the prorated amount, it’ll cost us about 700k at the most
This is great...
I know Pudge is a shell of his former self. However just the fact taht my favorite Rangers player ever is coming back for a playoff run really puts the cherry on top of this season…at least so far.
Great boost for the team and the FO as well. Attendance should also jump, as I’m sure this move will be just as popular here as Griffey going back to Seattle. Nice move by JD.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
I left SLC
Had a good summer though. Glad to be back in Texas
"Clearly, the season is over. Fire Daniels, fire Washington, fire Maddux, burn down TBIA." - AJM
by aggierangerfan00 on Aug 18, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Did you do anything fun while out here?
What was your impression of Salt Lake?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Had a great time
I enjoyed the weather and the city was nice. The SL Bees were pretty boring to watch though. It was fun. I wanna go back in the winter now!
"Clearly, the season is over. Fire Daniels, fire Washington, fire Maddux, burn down TBIA." - AJM
by aggierangerfan00 on Aug 18, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Griffey going back to Seattle.
Nice analogy. He is an icon in Arlington. Few are more popular than Pudge. Hell, is he the most popular Ranger of all time, outside of Nolan? Interesting question.
"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball
by rangerdanger on Aug 18, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
And hopefully it's a better move for the club as far as talent goes.
I’ve gotta think that even this version of Pudge is far greater an asset than Kevin Richardson or even Max Ramirez right now.
"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin
by utlonghorn24 on Aug 18, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
No.
The square base doesn’t make good contact with the round wheelchair wheel
"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball
by rangerdanger on Aug 18, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
???
either he is counting Andrus’ future gold gloves or he thinks Teixeira is still on the team.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
He means
Pudge, Omar, Jones, MY, anyone else?
Vizquel + Andruw + Pudge equals what 30 gg?
I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.
by DerekSTheRed on Aug 18, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
And Jones too, no?
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.
um...
I think we signed a guy named Omar who’s won one or two…or eleven.
"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball
by rangerdanger on Aug 18, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Vizquel with all his and Golden Face with one?
HH is that a sock in your puppet or are you happy to see me?
how 'bout
record for most gold gloves on the bench….
i hope we make the playoffs
so they can show our bench with that graphic…
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
One of these names is not like the others
one of these names is not the same…
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Aug 18, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Kind of a pessimistic prediction if you ask me
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
Hmmm...
Someone mentioned this possibility in the middle of the Purke talks last night. Odd timing, imho. Go figure.
by Texas_Dawg on Aug 18, 2009 1:04 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Go away
Take your sources with you.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm shocked he didn't get the text message last night from JD
that he is trading for Pudge
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
No.
Matt Nevarez and Jose Vallejo, btw.
by Texas_Dawg on Aug 18, 2009 1:08 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Hooray for Pudge
I have to admit, I feel pretty bad for Richardson though. I hope the team can bring him up in September or something at least. Richardson is no great prospect or anything, but he did kill lefties in the minors and might have been a nice back-up catcher to play against lefties.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
No sense in keeping him on the 40 man.
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.
Right now, its probably too tough
but if we can keep him on the 40 man for now or at least bring him back up in September, I’d love to see that happen.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Actually there kinda is
if Max isn’t fully healthy then are you really willing to roll with Teagarden (a health risk in his own right) and a 37 year old Pudge as the only two catchers availiable to you?
I think I would look for another option to drop from the 40 right now rather than Richardson. Option him down but give yourself the flexibility in case something happens
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
You think, what... he's gonna get claimed? Opt for minor league FA at this point in th baseball season?
There’s like a 99% chance he accepts the assignment and ends up staying in the system.
And, if not, there’s a million other Kevin Richardson’s in the sea.
It’s not like it’d be hard to put out an open casting call and get an AAA journeyman to come in here and back up.
Most teams like to reward their org soldiers so even if we had to call up another team and pay to get one of theirs in here for two or three weeks it’d likely only cost us cash or maybe a Hamburger at most.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Aug 18, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Its just the convenience
Im not saying drop a good player for him. but if Salty is done for the year you can move him to the 60 day DL. If not then you can drop someone like Arias because if you drop Richardson right now and something does happen you’re gonna have to drop Arias or someone else anyway to add him back on. We have dead weight on the 40 right now that can go ahead of Richardson and if we don’t need him then we simply drop him in the winter when we need a spot.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Salty is going to rehab his shoulder
and hope to return this year.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
Yeah i read that
Doubt it works considering the outcomes of our other TOS guys in the past. My point being we have other dead weight that we have less to no use for already on the 40 that we can get rid of instead of Richardson at this time, especially given our fragile state of catchers already.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Kevin Richardson does hold some more value to us than other teams
He’s at least got experience catching Hunter and Feliz.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
The Pudge acquisition
is on top of my Google News Sports section – above Favre!
"Clearly, the season is over. Fire Daniels, fire Washington, fire Maddux, burn down TBIA." - AJM
by aggierangerfan00 on Aug 18, 2009 1:06 PM CDT reply actions
thoracic outlet syndrome
So that adds Salty to the list of: Harrison, Blalock, Rheinecker, and Kenny Rogers.
by Anonymous New Guy on Aug 18, 2009 1:13 PM CDT reply actions
and John Hudgins.
who was diagnosed as a minor leaguer in our system.
by NoNameOnCard on Aug 18, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Has anyone seen Evan Grant lately?
There’s no crying in baseball but pedicures are fine! --- BigGuns
I believe he is taking
some time off this week.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
Here's the biggest question:
Will Murphy give up #7 when Pudge arrives?
"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin
He fucking better.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Aug 18, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Salty Injury May be a Blessing
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
Finally someone that agrees with me about Salty's lack of everything.
Especially defense. I got really tired of the “Salty might be a plus defender in time” junk.
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ESPN just put had Pudge going to the Rangers as one of its Leads.
Pudge, you are my Brett Favre news story without the douchy-ness. Thank you for making this the greatest Tuesday of my life.
Breaking news from ESPN
They just reported that the Texas Rangers picked Tom Greive as the #1 overall pick in the 1967 MLB Amatuer draft. More as the story develops….
by Average Joes on Aug 18, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions
How did they rate his Tweet tool?
I hear it’s a pure 80.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Aug 18, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
They didn't give a shit about it
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Aug 18, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
OMG BEST DAY EVER!
Work sucked. After work sucked. Girl’s day sucked.
BUT THE RANGERS ARE CHEERING ME UP FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE?!
Ed Koncel and Joreg Quintero have been added to the HIC roster
So … JQ to replace Nevarez … and Koncel to replace …
Houston’s Matt West?
Leury "Furcalito"Garcia?
Eric Morrison?
West is a decent option, I suppose
but I’d rather it be a guy who is closer to 40 eligibility.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Whittleman?
He might become a top three prospect in that organization.
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
Again
The Astros farm isn’t as terrible as you think it is.
by LiamP on Aug 18, 2009 1:27 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
It still sucks
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Aug 18, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Norris, Castro
and the two prep pitchers they hit on last year give them some credibility, but they seriously lack depth.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Yeah
It’s a lot better than it was a couple of years ago, when it was a complete black hole of talent, but they’re not near the top half yet.
Assuming Drayton and Wade don’t screw things up, they probably are on the right track in the scouting and development, though, because it seems that Bobby Heck is very highly regarded by people in the know.
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
Maybe it's a domino move ...
Koncel replaces Garcia, who replaces Lawson, who replaces Lemon, who replaces Vallejo …
Or any points along that path.
Quintero move may not mean much
as he’s been in Hickory since yesterday.
Heard about Koncel last night though. He was leaving for Hickory this morning. That could definitely be a replacement.
Does this mean
that Pudge is retiring after this season?
it sounds like
Pudge’s 1.5m salary is actually 3m because of reached incentives, and we are on the hook for the prorated share of that (750,000ish). The Astros wanted to play their young catchers anyway, so we are essentially helping them out, so I’ll be pretty pissed if the second player (besides Nevarez) has any real value.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
The 2nd player is Vallejo.
Yawn.
And the salary will be more than made up for on increased ticket sales, imho.
There are too many comments to read them all
Do we know exactly who the Rangers sent back? Is Nevarez the only one?
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 18, 2009 1:41 PM CDT reply actions
i refuse to believe
we’d sell this low on Vallejo, unless the team is really convinced he is the second coming of Nivar…
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
I don't even know who he is.
First I’d ever heard of him.
Fonk him. Go Pudge.
by Texas_Dawg on Aug 18, 2009 2:13 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Damn you're dumb as hell
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Wow
So possibly Pudge requested this? Would this be the first time the Rangers deal meaningfully with the Astros? Did Drayton have a stroke?
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Aug 18, 2009 1:45 PM CDT reply actions
I think the Astros understand the relationship between Pudge and the Rangers
Remember, they allowed Pudge to break the catching record at RBiA over the summer. I don’t think they’d begrudge Pudge an opportunity to come back to the Rangers.
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 18, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Keep in mind
that Pudge also bypassed his agent years ago and made a deal directly with Ranger’s management so he could stay. Don’t under estimate his loyalty to the Ragngers!
by Average Joes on Aug 18, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I remember that.
Made me think very highly of Pudge when I heard about it.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman, Esq. on Aug 18, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Pudge requested this? Where did you see that?
I believe you, I just want to read it myself. If so, that’s awesome. And it confirms the kind of guy he is, and the true love he has for this lcub and its fans.
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
Somewhere in this thread
it says that’s what galloway is hearing
by Anonymous New Guy on Aug 18, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Ahh, missed that part of the thread
Awesome, awesome stuff.
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
From earlier in the posts....
Galloway just said…
by N41D on Aug 18, 2009 10:21 AM PDT on Texas Rangers trade for Pudge Rodriguez
His people are telling him Pudge asked Houston for this move…
by Average Joes on Aug 18, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
everybody is forgetting the real question here
CAN HE PLAY FIRST??
and is it ok if this brought sports tears to my eyes?
Better than Salty
but I am not sure about Kevin (Five Hundred) Richardson. :)
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
Maybe Pudge can do for us what he did for the Marlins
and OT, but the Vikings just signed Farve
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"-Wayne Gretzky"-Michael Scott
by ReallyCreativeScreenName on Aug 18, 2009 1:50 PM CDT reply actions
Um, wow.
Awesome.
Maybe Pudge caught the ridiculous adulation Griffey’s been getting this year in Seattle and started thing to hismelf, “You know what? I bet I could go back to Arlington and…”
This is seriously so awesome.
Pudge is my favorite Ranger ever.
This is and incredibly happy moment for me.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Pitchingatentatron.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman, Esq. on Aug 18, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Breaking News
We have just learned that Michael Jackson is dead at the age of 50.
Is there anybody here who can tell me
why we are the ONLY team experiencing this problem w/ Thoraic Outlet Syndrome?
I mean, I know it’s brought on physically.. but could it be something in the water? In the air?
I’m surprised this hasn’t been looked at closer by the media.
Not a new concept or anything
But we have a specialist on retainer who is an expert on thoracic outlet surgery. I worry that “when your favorite tool is a hammer, everything looks like a nail”. Albeit, TOS corrective surgery could conceivably fix a variety of related problems, including short or contracted vascularity, possibly even an affected area from a pinched nerve, etc.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Aug 18, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
FYI......
Definition
By Mayo Clinic staff
Thoracic outlet syndrome is a group of disorders that occur when the blood vessels or nerves in the thoracic outlet — the space between your collarbone (clavicle) and your first rib — become compressed. This can cause pain in your shoulders and neck and numbness in your fingers.
Common causes of thoracic outlet syndrome include physical trauma from a car accident and repetitive injuries from on-the-job or sports-related activities. Even an injury that happened long ago may lead to thoracic outlet syndrome in the present. Sometimes, doctors can’t determine the cause of thoracic outlet syndrome.
Treatment for thoracic outlet syndrome usually involves physical therapy and pain relief measures. Most people improve with these conservative approaches. In some cases, however, your doctor may recommend surgery.
by Average Joes on Aug 18, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I think that's a valid point
But I read a good point here when the news first came out about Salty: perhaps TOS is more common in baseball than thought, and we’re catching it because we have a guy that knows what it is. Meanwhile, other teams are misdiagnosing it as something else. Allegedly, TOS is fairly common in the general populace, but it doesn’t really cause much of a problem for non-athletes and people don’t know that they have it.
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
If we gave up Vallejo i will be none to pleased
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
if we did
it will be the second straight shit day for our FO.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
you really think
Vallejo and Nevarez for 40 days of Pudge as a backup catchers is a good move? Could we get a package like that for Andruw Jones?
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
It would be selling low
But it would also help with some upcoming roster crunches. I wouldn’t like it although I could see the rationale behind it. Its not anywhere near the Adrian Gonzalez fiasco but it would not be the best we could get for Vallejo.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
we still have this offseason to deal with that crunch
guys like Kirkman, Phillips and Vallejo are prime candidates for trades this offseason. I just really like the idea of Vallejo serving as Vizquel’s eventual replacement as a utility guy.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Apparently Vallejo can't play short
which pretty much excludes him as a Utility guy.
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
Nevarez + PTBNL
For more, click here: http://www.newbergreport.com/article.asp?articleid=1578.
Will he play tonight?!?
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by rangerdanger on Aug 18, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
im guessing
they wouldnt announce it unless it’s confirmed
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by studcrackers on Aug 18, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Or they have been reading this thread
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Aug 18, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
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