Texas Rangers trade for Pudge Rodriguez, Part II
Jamey Newberg says the reports are Matt Nevarez and a PTBNL.
Nevarez is a nice live arm who is Rule 5 eligible this offseason, but wouldn't crack the Rangers' top 30 prospects, even with all the players graduating this year.
UPDATE -- Jamey says the Ticket is reporting that Jose Vallejo is the second player. Vallejo + Nevarez is...steep, for a backup catcher, but I'd guess that there were some off-the-field/p.r. implications behind the decision to bring Pudge back, as well.
And I have to think this is going to be viewed as a positive in the clubhouse, as well.
UPDATE II -- Evan Grant with some thoughts about the acquisition.
UPDATE III -- Brett Perryman has a rundown on Vallejo and Nevarez.
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Depending on the PTBNL
this sounds like a great deal. There is no way that Nevarez was going to make the 40 this offseason.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
by DJCahill on Aug 18, 2009 2:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
there is also no way
he was going to get drafted in the Rule 5 draft, fwiw…
Still, I am worried about that second player.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has to be someone drafted last year I would suspect...
unless its conditional on how much Pudge plays or somesuch.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 18, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guess I should read to the end before posting..
Carry on… nothing to see here.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 18, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is this mid level prospect love or Pudge hate youre throwing out there
by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt Pudge
has much of an impact, but its not out of the realm that he is invigorated by playing in TX on a contender and outperforms what he has done on the season. He is more of the same on this team, though, free swinger with some moderate power. God forbid we add someone whose OBP excedes their BA by more than 30 pts.
And I just hate when our FO acts as buyers, because they have a pretty bad track record to date.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
honestly we didn't lose a lot here
Vallejo’s ceiling was probably German at this point and Neveraz may turn out to be a decent bullpen arm, I just don’t feel like we lost a lot with the youth and depth lower down up the middle
by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We will probably be able to pick up Nevarez as a minor league FA before he gets to the majors
he has tow years left before becoming one and since he is in Low A this year it will take a good run for him to make the majors in that time
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my thoughts exactly.
did you get my e-mail the other day?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 18, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah I did
I’m sorry that I haven’t replied yet. I can’t get to my gmail account at work and at night it usually slips my mind…I will definitely reply tonight.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
muchos gracias
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 18, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He gets request for nude photos and what do I get? Nothing.
You’re a dick, dude.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Aug 18, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
NAMBLA wants to talk to you guys about those pics, btw...
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 18, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
North American Marlon Brando Look Alikes?
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
by TheJeezus on Aug 18, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh man - how do I join?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 18, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you've got to leave a little to the imagination
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 18, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
stupid move.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too high on Vallejo dude
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but the thing is
both of these guys could reach the majors. this is well beyond what we got for Galarraga back in the day. These are two legitimate prospects (albeit somewhat buried in our farm system) being traded for 40 days of a backup catcher.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vallejo was not going to make the majors for us
Nevarez is in Low A so to say he could reach the majors is like saying Richard Alvarez could reach the majors or Mark Hamburger could reach the majors. You can’t hold onto everybody.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but the difference
is that a guy like Hamburger is the perfect guy to trade…he has nothing in terms of stuff…Nevarez, on the other hand, has pretty decent stuff, but he’s taken a while to develop. I am more okay with him than Vallejo. They are selling low on Vallejo.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're forgetting one important thing
Houston has a say in who they accept in trade. They also know that Hamburger has nothing.
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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but how much value does Pudge really have
Houston could either keep him and pay him the rest of his 3m salary or trade him and play their kids and save the money. So why give up two guys with some value to get a guy they were looking to dump. Could we even get this sort of a package for Blalock or Jones? Only if we could trade with ourselves…
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They overpaid
Given all the circumstances, though, I think overpaying is understandable.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 18, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe so.
But we’re not talking paying $2M for a $1M home.
We’re talking $7 for a $5 sandwich.
Yawn, etc.
by Texas_Dawg on Aug 18, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Good analogy.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Aug 18, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Atlanta was in a pennant race and needed a 4th OF
Yes I believe we could get this type of package for Jones
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Atlanta is 3 games back in the Wild Card
so they are in the race, and I don’t believe they would make this type of trade for AJ. Of course, If they want to, i’m all for it.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Aug 18, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they needed a 4th OF I think they would do it
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
Pudge and Blalock are pretty far apart in value right now. Pudge is still a good catcher, and that has value over a replacement level 1B getting worse by the day — and making a higher salary to boot. Not sure what Jones’ value is, probaby minimal, more than Blalock (by default) but less than Pudge.
Look, catcher is pretty important. Vallejo’s are replacable.
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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blalock is actually a decent defensive 1B
and he has a higher OPS than Pudge. So how does he have less value? Because he’s in a slump?
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because he plays first
not catcher
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
The best defensive first baseman ever still has nowhere near the value of a catcher with the same bat. And I think it’s questionable right now whose bat is better.
And again, Blalock has a higher salary this year, which makes him untradeable.
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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you kidding me with this?
While there are a whole lot of other pieces to this argument, are you really ignoring the vast difference between first base and catcher?!
by philkid3 on Aug 18, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes they are selling low on Vallejo
But its not like he was going to bring back a star. hell he probably wouldn’t even bring back a starter. the most I think we could ever hope from him is to bring back a toolsy young player which we are chock full of already. You are stressing way too much over losing a guy like vallejo
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vallejo
2b-only player who runs well, hits for an OK average, and offers virtually nothing in the way of secondary skills?
There’s a ton of guys like that around.
Officially gay for Neftali Feliz
by RCCook on Aug 18, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's apparently thickened up quite a bit and lost the top end 70-80 speed that was his calling card.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Aug 18, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just curious where you came across that info
by Goyogringo on Aug 18, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone who had seen him play said that
Cole, Hindman, Parks, or someone of that sort, I think.
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
by WestTxAg06 on Aug 18, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we've all said it at one point or another this year
but I was definitely one of them. He’s lost at least a step both on the basepaths and in the field htis year.
by JasonCole on Aug 18, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But you're not the type
to write a prospect off because of some added weight or a rough year or because he’s depressed. That would be everyone else. So, is there any reason to believe that he can’t have a very nice year next year and “reclaim” his ceiling of a potential starting-caliber MIF?
by Goyogringo on Aug 18, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't tell if that is tongue in cheek or not
but every situation is unique. There is no blanket statement in terms of writing off guys or believing in them after one bad year. Lots of things go into them, and no two situations are even close to being the same.
And looking at Vallejo’s situation, no, I am not confident he can ever be a starting caliber player in the Majors. I never totally was even before this year. I thought he was a very good utilityman at best, and right now I’d be surprised if he reached that.
by JasonCole on Aug 18, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the analysis, Jason
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
by WestTxAg06 on Aug 18, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've seen that too
maybe it was Hindman. I also was one of MJH, Parks, or someone report that he seems kinds of listless. It sounded like maybe his heart/head weren’t all on baseball, didn’t his parents die in an accident a couple years back?
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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty meh about it actually.
I like Vallejo but I am not running around screaming “OH MY GOD We gave up VALLEJO!”
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by LBBRangerFan on Aug 18, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
easy
he is fast, and has a bad head, big deal
by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what's up with your Vallejo love?
have you seen his hitting line this year?
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
by tricer on Aug 18, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i saw it last year
and as much as people raped me for supposedly undervaluing Duran, I am surprised so many people are doing the same to Vallejo.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Duran>Vallejo
for me, but neither are a great loss. I don’t think Vallejo is going to ever have more than a cup of coffee.
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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and both are now Astros.
awkward
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 18, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Vallejo
is a perfect bench guy on a national league team. I think he will be quite valuable for them in the future.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure
He has more value to them and Pudge has more value to the Rangers, nice deal.
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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Arias < Duran - Vallejo
got it?
Good.
"When he came up with that ball, hop or not, he looked exactly like a homeless guy who had found a long cigarette butt – only to discover it was soaked with gasoline. He could not have thrown out anyone there, even though Cust moves at about the speed of soil erosion." - Ed C.
by Chase Irwin on Aug 18, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think so.
But, maybe.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Aug 18, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
for what its worth
i also really like Ramon Nivar…maybe I have a type.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe you just lust for the speed game that the rangers have never had?
embrace borbon instead
by UNTJosh on Aug 18, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, it is a stupid move
two months of a used up Pudge is not worth Vallejo and a Throw-in arm. This trade sets the benchmark then for future trades with Texas. This is ridiculous.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Aug 18, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
benchmark for future trades?
Give me a break. We have some utility type guys coming up in our minors so Vallejo was expendable. Like I said in the other thread we could have gotten more for him in another trade later on probably but this is not a loss of any consequence.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vallejo has much higher upside than any of our other UI prospects
I would much rather have seen Lemon go. Who are our other middle infield prospects that have much upside?
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Aug 18, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lemon can play SS I believe
which automatically makes him better for UIF than Vallejo
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lemon is has no plus tools and is not nearly the prospect Vallejo is
Vallejo is also a level higher
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Aug 18, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Utility IF don't need plus tools
Especially when they are playing behind Elvis and Kinsler who will probably sit a combined dozen games or so a year.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kind of a moot point since
the Rangers probably fill the UT role with a veteran player.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
by RangerMad on Aug 18, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
which is why all the bitching about giving up Jose freaking Vallejo is driving me crazy
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+ 1 he ain't nobody
HH is that a sock in your puppet or are you happy to see me?
by BigGuns on Aug 18, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vallejo had as
many – tools as he had + tools not to mention his 2 cent head
by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and Lemon has??
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Aug 18, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's literally the first bad thing I've heard about JV's character/makeup
which leads me to think it’s, just, like, your opinion, man.
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by Keynes on Aug 18, 2009 2:47 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I have read more than one report
this year, where scouts talked about how he was very vulnerable mentally. That when he had to spend time away from his family he would get really down and would sometimes just not even try. I wish I could remember where it was at, it was a lot earlier in the year and I don’t have the life force to look it up to prove myself to you.
by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i feel i read
something similar, how he had confidence issues or somesuch
go here to view my blog: http://dirtfromd.blogspot.com
by studcrackers on Aug 18, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
until you link the info (and maybe not even then)
this is nothing more than an ad hominem comment
by Goyogringo on Aug 18, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I defer to your
prospecty wisdom dear sir
by Goyogringo on Aug 18, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
IIRC, it was in the midseason roundtable over at Inside Corner
Hindman brought it up. Vallejo’s parents had recently died or something other tragic like that, and it was causing him issues, understandably.
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
by WestTxAg06 on Aug 18, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok that sounds like it was one of them
but didn’t Hindman say that this was something that had been a worry in the past also?
by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I think he said in the same convo that it was an ongoing worry
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
by WestTxAg06 on Aug 18, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah only sets the bar for trading to get a Ranger legend who fills a need for a few months
no benchmark here. Although, I agree with the sentiment that teams will ask for more from the Rangers because of the stacked system.
We are not exactly talking about Smoak here.
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by LBBRangerFan on Aug 18, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think so..
Even if we overpaid, this is sort of a one-off deal, isn’t it? We’re filling a desperate need during a playoff run. I don’t think later trades will need to stack up against this one.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 18, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that if...
…Pudge has no history with the Rangers, the Rangers would still be shopping for a backup catcher.
This is, in part, about getting people fired up and getting folks to watch and come to the park because Pudge is back. It is about several column inches the next few days about Pudge coming home, and the storyline about how he has the chance to help the team get back to the playoffs.
Do you think we’d have two discussion threads already about this deal if it were Henry Blanco or John Buck?
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 18, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No doubt.
But that added value is legit and thus worth paying up for, imho.
He knows the organization, knows the park, knows the surroundings, will do a lot to pay for his prorated contract with increased ticket sales, etc., etc.
He may not even be a John Buck at this point, but he’s the greatest all-around catcher in the history of baseball, and he’s coming home to a pennant race. I want to meet the colossal douche that thinks Cowboys mini-camp is worth talking about over that.
by Texas_Dawg on Aug 18, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
see Hansen, Dale
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 18, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
John Buck would have INVIGORATED the fanbase
invigorated
by Will McDonald on Aug 18, 2009 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why did the Rangers give up on him?
On the flip side. The Rabgers are in the playoff hunt. A playoff series is worth more than Vallejo.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
by RangerMad on Aug 18, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think this means they've "given up"
But he had no place on the ML team besides utility IF which apparently he couldn’t play SS so what good would that have done anyway? Hes had a rough season in AAA.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Pudge is the difference in a playoff series
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Aug 18, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he has a better chance of making a difference this year
then Vallejo ever has
by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ur an idiot
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Aug 18, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
please explain
or was this your big thought out response to an actual good point
by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is why I usually avoid the comment section
by shallrelicme on Aug 18, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because
blueballlefty if an idiot?
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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what exactly did I say there that was idiotic?
by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Relax, mr. poopy pants
it’s just a bad play on words. Have you not read my other 5,000 bad puns on this site? Are you new here?
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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He may be the difference in getting to a playoff series
With his playoff experience it will be good for this team. We don’t have alot of veterans to begin with and most of the ones we have don’t have much playoff experience. Getting someone of Pudges ilk can’t hurt.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was going to say this seemed liked a Big Steve thing to say.
Then I noticed you’ve gotten a new display pic.
by philkid3 on Aug 18, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me either, but he might be the difference in GETTING to that playoff series..
Teagarden simply can’t be the only ML-caliber catcher we have for the next 40-odd days. Richardson had a great debut, but he is what he is – a 28-year old org guy..
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 18, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please
We all know you called it because you were twooting with Texas_Dawg.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 18, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Twooting?"
Is that what they’re calling gay sex these days?
Officially gay for Neftali Feliz
by RCCook on Aug 18, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
who is this "Texas_Dawg"
he called this fucking thing from the beginning.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rally OC over here!!
"When he came up with that ball, hop or not, he looked exactly like a homeless guy who had found a long cigarette butt – only to discover it was soaked with gasoline. He could not have thrown out anyone there, even though Cust moves at about the speed of soil erosion." - Ed C.
by Chase Irwin on Aug 18, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You shall dance for your parade!
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Aug 18, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait wait,
I put in the Pudge call early on too. I want a little credit on this one!
by AceJC on Aug 18, 2009 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He claims he knows Tommy Hicks
and is also a massive douche. Just check out the post game threads some night and you’ll see.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Says the president of my obsessed fan club.
Troll on, dude.
by Texas_Dawg on Aug 18, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
fonk you
fwiw
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just some dude on the tubes.
Go Rangers.
by Texas_Dawg on Aug 18, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From MLBTraderumors comments
puff puff pass dude……
we could have gotten martin perez and someone else.
this is bull.
we may as well just tear our team apart, and i’d be all for it, but we have some idiots in office…ed wade…drayton mcclane. sell the team, you morons because you certainly don’t know how to run one the correct way.
we need a total rebuild.PERIOD. our team is old and in 2 years, we will have nothing, either get some top tier prospects now, or let them go to free agency or some bull crap we always pull instead of doing something sensible for once.
Posted by: averybear11 | August 18, 2009 at 02:13 PM
Perez for Pudge????
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Aug 18, 2009 2:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That's an epic trade suggestion
Along those same lines, we should have just waited to trade Vallejo for Lincecum.
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
by WestTxAg06 on Aug 18, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a good one
Yeah, the Rangers weren’t crazy about giving up Martin in a deal for Hallady but for Pudge? Sure.
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
by WyoRanger on Aug 18, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
rofl
this is almost as stupid as that trade proposal on HH where they would get Halladay for Saunders and Lee for Santana.
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
by hinduplaya on Aug 18, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perez for Pudge?
Sure, if they threw in Berkman.
Officially gay for Neftali Feliz
by RCCook on Aug 18, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Lee
And paid both of their salaries for the rest of the year.
by eric03tx on Aug 18, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that Oswalt character should also be included, just of kicks
while you’re at it, Castro
Must kill Moe. Weeeeeeeee
by Baseball North on Aug 18, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
per Newberg, the ticket just report Vallejo as the second player
I would definitely not like this trade one bit, if this was the case.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Aug 18, 2009 2:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
from a value point, I agree
but throw in the fact that it’s FREAKIN’ PUDGE and it’s definitely worth it
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 18, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How in the hell does the Ticket break news like this
by oc on Aug 18, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It seems that there are many P1's
thorughout the Dallas teams’ organizations
by Anonymous New Guy on Aug 18, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What?
I’m sure they have a buddy in the Rangers org that passed along the info. It didn’t have to come from OKC.
by Anonymous New Guy on Aug 18, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not like this was some huge deal either.
It’s a name that will be forgotten (to the point it’s ever even known) by pretty much everyone within a few days anyway.
by Texas_Dawg on Aug 18, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Ticket would know before Jamey though?
by oc on Aug 18, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Ticket's empire...
…stretches much farther than Jamey’s, as extensive as his is.
"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009
by ghtd36 on Aug 18, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Godfather reference?
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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm convinced they read this thread
and then called somebody who confirmed. Those guys don’t even have a clue who Vallejo is.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That could be true
But they also don’t need to know who he is if they are getting the info directly from the source.
by Anonymous New Guy on Aug 18, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and thats why no1 listens when tommyboy's sock puppet squawks
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
by Jayslick on Aug 18, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bingo
I’m calling this also.
Sturm made it known yesterday he frequents this blog.
He saw Vallejo’s name in the thread and ran with it, that cue-ball-headed motherfuck
by oc on Aug 18, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Possibly
say what you want about Bad Radio or The Ticket in general, but they do not irresponsibly report breaking news without confirmation (except for the pope dying). I doubt Bob saw that Texas_Dawg said the PTBNL is Vallejo and subsequenlty ran to his microphone to shout it out the listening audience.
by Anonymous New Guy on Aug 18, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL.
Seriously.
“I’m getting word from some dude on the internets named “Texas… Dog…”
by Texas_Dawg on Aug 18, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
your an unnamed source, man
thats how it works
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
by Jayslick on Aug 18, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Losing Vallejo
(if the Ticket’s right)
… hurts a tiny bit, I liked that dude.
Good for him though, he can play everyday down there. Best he’d do here is utility guy, and he’s apparently allergic to the left side o the infield.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
by Keynes on Aug 18, 2009 2:24 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I don't know that Vallejo would ever become anything
But I don’t like trading him right now for a back-up catcher. Even if it is Pudge. Of course, a decent playoff run can change all of this.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Aug 18, 2009 2:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It takes one guy off the 40
and one guy that had to be added this winter is gone. This is the type of deal you make when you have a deep system.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmm, i hadnt even thought that Vallejo was on the 40
this actually makes it really easy to swallow b/c with Vallejo on the 40 we probably end up losin someone like Pina, Phillips or Beau Jones, all guys who i probably would consider Vallejo’s equal in value to our orginization
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on Aug 18, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
JD sure does run a tight ship
SInce Vallejo was on the 40 he had to clear waivers. This deal was probably made at least 3-4 dyas ago. Not a word leaked out.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
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by RangerMad on Aug 18, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's probably a PTBNL...
…because he hasn’t cleared waivers yet.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 18, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was final.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
by RangerMad on Aug 18, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good think Richardson got into the game last night
I do like that Wash gave him the game knowing it would probably be his only chance to play.
by northtexan95 on Aug 18, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pudge will not make the difference in a playoff run
Vallejo has alot of upside and is still very young.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Aug 18, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pudge or Richardson
Who do you prefer?
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Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
by RangerMad on Aug 18, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
alot of upside?
Like what? From what ive read hes limited to 2B and won’t hit for much power. So unless you consider a pinch runner a vlot of upside I have to disagree
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what are your sources
that say he is “limited” and what is their evidence?
by Goyogringo on Aug 18, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the evidence is
that he hasn’t played any SS, despite the club saying that they would like to see him get in some work at SS this season.
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
by tricer on Aug 18, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's foolish.
what if Teagarden slumps big time or gets hurt?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 18, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't Forget Will Clark
…and what he did after he was traded to the Cardinals. Pudge may go nuts and be the starting catcher within three weeks. Never know.
by Black Francis on Aug 18, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the thing is
I don’t think Vallejo carried much value, in trade or to this team.
Doesn’t mean he isn’t a good player, doesn’t mean this was a good trade, but he wasn’t going to play second here unless Kins got injured again, and for some reason he never took to SS.
So, I dunno, they found him a good home and filled a need on the major league team and solved some fortyoclypse problems. I can live with that.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
by Keynes on Aug 18, 2009 2:36 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
ha CeeJ just said Elvis should win the GG at short
he understands good defense
by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 2:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
great interview
CJ actually does understand a whole lot about the inner workings of baseball, i guess thats why he is the player’s rep to the union
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on Aug 18, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Impressively smart dude
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Aug 18, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Liked Vallejo as a possible utility infiedler
I guess Lemon will fit into that role in the next year or two, although he doesn’t offer the spark plug type speed. Its a good trade to shore up the catching position while make a run at the playoffs.
"That one is headed for the moon!" - All Star Derby
by m_nieft on Aug 18, 2009 2:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately,
if you can’t put him at SS, that kind of kills Vallejo as a UIF.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
by DJCahill on Aug 18, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
plus his .320 career OBP
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
by tricer on Aug 18, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus the reports he's slowed down a little and is no longer jackrabbit fast.
Just merely fast.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Aug 18, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
his whole friggin family died in a car crash this offseason
can we give the guy a little slack for a bad season…
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
by Jayslick on Aug 18, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought that happened in 2006
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am cutting him slack for that
but I’m also not projecting him as a big league player.
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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, they didn't.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Aug 18, 2009 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True question is now
If he’s gonna be in uniform tonight
by Phil18989 on Aug 18, 2009 2:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't get ANYONE to answer this question.
"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball
by rangerdanger on Aug 18, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vallejo
The important thing to keep in mind: losing him off the 40 means Richardson stays on it.
Which means there’s a chance we see Heidi again in September.
Priorities, people! :)
Officially gay for Neftali Feliz
by RCCook on Aug 18, 2009 2:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
YES!
The plan is coming together!
by northtexan95 on Aug 18, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is this true
I thought Vallejo had to pass through waivers first and if not he’s a PTBNL.
I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.
by DerekSTheRed on Aug 18, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also a third catcher if the shit hits the fan
And TeaBag or Pudge get hurt. I know Salty wants to come back this season, but I’m not so sure about that.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Aug 18, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pudge for Nevarez and Vallejo
Good for both teams. The Rangers get a veteran backup C for the stretch and the Astros get two players for someone who had no future in Houston. They also get playing time for thier young catchers.
Now, what about Lemon and Tatusko for Berkman. :)
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
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by RangerMad on Aug 18, 2009 2:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The future of the MIF
I give you Marcus Lemon.
Lot of depth out the door this year. And all of it to Houston.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Aug 18, 2009 2:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Profar? Sardinas?
let me introduce you
by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
long ways off there, brotha.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ugh Elvis is 20 and Kins is locked up for
5 years so not to worried about only having 1 or 2 decent mif prospects over the next 2 years
by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about MILF prospects?
Officially gay for Neftali Feliz
by RCCook on Aug 18, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what Richardson is for..
She’s not a mom yet, therefore she’s a prospective mom.
by Trickman on Aug 18, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If MIF backup is the team's worry
than I’m not worried.
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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kinsler goes down tomorrow
It’s Omar and Arias.
I mean, whatever. I’ll concede the point. God bless Vizquel.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Aug 18, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Theres also
German
What do voluntary mean?
by JKolar on Aug 18, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like including Vallejo
I was hoping to add him in a trade package this off-season for a nice worthwhile person that will help in the future. Was hoping the PTBNL was Arias.
by Mike E on Aug 18, 2009 2:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hand-wringing
Vallejo has been horrible this year in AAA and has no positional flexibility. There is no reason to mourn his loss and he probably wouldn’t be valuable enough after this year’s performance to mean much in a bigger trade. He can easily be replaced by a Ramon Vazquez/Omar Vizquel type veteran for almost no cost. I have no problem with this at all.
As for Pudge making no difference in a playoff run, I also think that is an incredible overstatement. He is not a front tier player or even a starter but I feel a lot better with him backing up Teagarden than Max or KR. I say good trade.
by pblack on Aug 18, 2009 2:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's a great move.
Should bring out some extra fans and stir up some more Rangers talk going into Cowboys season as well (and fonk the NFL and the fonking Cowboys, imho, fwiw).
Great deal. Good times in the cow pastures of Arlington, imho.
by Texas_Dawg on Aug 18, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
fonk fonk fonk fonk fonk
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Aug 18, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
fuck this fonk bit of yours
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
right above you fully admit you have no clue who vallejo is
now you know how great a deal it is? how is that possible?
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
by Jayslick on Aug 18, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some perspective from Kevin Goldstein
Jason Parks: Matt Nevarez and Jose Vallejo for Pudge. Not a bad deal, I guess.
KG: sure
KG: flags fly forever
by jparks77 on Aug 18, 2009 2:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what does that mean?
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That you have the chance to make the playoffs now.
Don’t blow that chance by a game or two because you didn’t want to give up a Tier 2 prospect.
by Texas_Dawg on Aug 18, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmm
i like it. but if this team really wanted to enhance their chances to make a real run, this sort of seems like too little, too late.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
unless you get a flag
for being the wild card winner.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that was the general idea...
…but we still play LAA 7 times, fwiw.
You might be overanalyizing the general point about avoiding bad reasons for not doing trades though, imho.
by Texas_Dawg on Aug 18, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i guess
the initial surprise of having to give up two legit prospects for a 37 year old catcher is starting to wear off. It isn’t the end of the world. I would trash JD for being a bad buyer, but he got O’Day and Grilli for a waiver claim, so he gets a pass.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like TD's
paying $7 for a $5 sandwich analogy above. I agree they may have overpaid a bit, but sometimes it’s worth it to slip the maitre d’ a $20 for a better table.
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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yah, I'd never pay $8 for a pre-made chicken salad sandwich, but I did justthat in an airport when I was so hungry I could barely walk, cause when you're in certain situations overpaying sometimes isn't that crazy, even if if it is cause it's overpaying.
That didn’t make sense, but hopefully the spirit shined through.
Sometimes the situation makes a slight overpay palatable.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Aug 18, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this one is more like that eating place you went to in college
on Sunday night since the cafeteria was closed. It was awesome to get something that wasn’t cafeteria and you had to eat that night, so it made it taste that much better. Mine was One Guy’s in Lubbock. It’s a local place that’s hugely popular and everytime I take someone who didn’t go to Tech there, they just go “Meh”.
by AceJC on Aug 18, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gardski's was always the same way for me...
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 19, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Winning the wild card
would be huge for the org and the fans. It would mean a hell of a lot to the players, and it would mean a lot of revenue for the org.
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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would mean a hell of a lot to the future of this team too.
Teams generally get into the playoffs a time or two before they go all the way.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Aug 18, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
would be huge for the org and the fans. It would mean a hell of a lot to the players, and it would mean a lot of revenue for the org tom hicks.
remember how Hicks said there was a way he could keep the team? that way is a playoff run id guess.
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
by Jayslick on Aug 18, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would give up my left arm for a pennant, so losing a MIF for the prospect of maybe making it, a lot less painful
Nobody is perfect, i am nobody, therefore, i am perfect
by 34express on Aug 18, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those pennants fly forever.
Amen.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
by TxStCa on Aug 18, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
FUCK THE TICKET and there crappy press conference's
by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 2:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
totally cut short a great interview
that was probably the best player interview i had heard in a long while on any radio station
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on Aug 18, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, you know that HAVE to hurry and get to "Why today doesn't suck" or somesuch...
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 18, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is more of an entertainment talk station
than a sports talk station.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
by RangerMad on Aug 18, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was cut short by the Wade Phillips press conference
not WTDS
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
do they post these interviews
after they’re done?
by cashman on Aug 18, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
jose vallejo and matt nevarez
really? do we really want to bitch about those 2 being gone?
usa
by Longhorn on Aug 18, 2009 2:33 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Seriously.
Some people seem to think nothing is ever given up in a trade.
by Texas_Dawg on Aug 18, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this is such a good move
from a PR and a clubhouse perspective that it outweighs the fact that on paper with the names blotted out it is probably a poor decision.
Let’s face it, the Rangers took a big PR hit yesterday as they are heading into a stretch run for the playoffs. Getting Pudge is a boost to the team’s as well as the fans’ morale. Brings the attention back on the field and makes the Rangers look assertive.
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Aug 18, 2009 2:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
clubhouse
this is hilarious to me
tom hicks stated (just after pudge was sent packing the first time) that he was an absolute clubhouse cancer
funny how pudge was a horrible person (according to hicks) and now he’s suddenly derek jeter.
defeatist pussy lives here
by sam in so cal on Aug 18, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well... he probably isn't roiding any more for starters.
I think Pudge has matured a little bit since then though. Winning a World Series probably helps.
But I don’t think he has to be some huge leader. The leaders of this team are established. Pudge just needs to do his thing.
by Texas_Dawg on Aug 18, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Pudge can start taking whatever juice FOTF is on this year.........
………..if so, this could be a steal for JD.
by Hard8 on Aug 18, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Got links, quotes?
I don’t remember that kind of talk. I remember Melvin and others saying he had caught a lot of innings already, and there was talk about him not being a great game caller, but I don’t remember anything about him being bad in the clubhouse.
I call bullshit.
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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't recall that, either
I know there was talk that he didn’t work with the pitchers enough and wasn’t a great game-caller.
And there was also talk that Pudge was unhappy when the Rangers signed ARod and then, basically, told him to pound sand, that they weren’t interested in keeping him around.
As far as him being a “clubhouse cancer,” though? Hadn’t heard that.
Of course, it is Tom Hicks we are talking about, so it isn’t as if we are talking about someone whose words should carry much weight on this stuff.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 18, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope Tom Hicks finally figured out
that he is/was the real clubhouse cancer….
" I have no faith in the GM making a move to help the big club but I’m on board."
Josey Wales on the 2009 Rangers. A team with 18 active players acquired by the current GM.
by red3biggs on Aug 18, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
from hicks' mouth at his house at a party
why on earth would i make this up? it’s not like i’m saying i had sex with richardson’s wife?
defeatist pussy lives here
by sam in so cal on Aug 18, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, fine, then
but still that means the only one saying it was Hicks. So, if your point is it’s funny that Hicks said that and will now probably make nice noises about Pudge’s return, sure.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So we're quoting a drunk Hicks now???
he says enough silly shit as it is; do we really need to hang on what he says while he’s drinking??
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 18, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are the coolest guy on Earth.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Aug 18, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm having sex with Richardon's wife...
in my mind.
by Agreen07 on Aug 18, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and he cant call a game b/c he's lazy and doesnt do his pregame work and he calls pitches deliberately just to get runners even to fastball hitters.
yup 6 years changes the lies coming out of an organizations mouth.
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
by Jayslick on Aug 18, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any chance it also changes the player???
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 19, 2009 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From a PR perspective...
…this may open the door for Pudge to retire as a Texas Ranger then go ito the HOF as a Ranger.
"Just take the ball and throw it where you want to. Throw strikes. Home plate don't move." - Satchel Paige
"Josh Hamilton doesn't act like he is Josh Hamilton. He acts like a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy named Josh Hamilton." - Jason Parks
by pro82 on Aug 18, 2009 2:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lemme axe ya',
Is Boston going to be in the market for a catcher again this offseason?
And what I mean by that is, considering we still have depth at the catching position…..even though the Tender Trio have had substandard campaigns… is there any chance the Rangers still move a catcher and perhaps sign Pudge to a one-year deal as a back-up in 2010?
Or is this it?
by oc on Aug 18, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah theres a chance
Depends on how the organization views Max. With his injuries this year I wonder if they start considering moving him off catcher (even though i realize his injuries aren’t positionally related). And what do they do with Pina? If they protect him then I doubt they resign Pudge but if they don’t and especially if he gets taken in the rule 5 then I think theres a pretty good chance we look into resigning pudge for one year.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of all the catchers on the clock, I'd have to say Salty is the one who's almost out of time
by oc on Aug 18, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
After this gem of a season, you'd name him your starting catcher next year?
by oc on Aug 18, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, and if he doesn't carry a big stick, he's out.
Plenty of catchers out there that can run the “All D, no bat” bit.
"When he came up with that ball, hop or not, he looked exactly like a homeless guy who had found a long cigarette butt – only to discover it was soaked with gasoline. He could not have thrown out anyone there, even though Cust moves at about the speed of soil erosion." - Ed C.
by Chase Irwin on Aug 18, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never said id name him the starter
But I fail to see how he is the one running out of time the fastest
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
correct not only that...
but you don’t really know how much of an impact his condition has had on his suckage this year. We need to find out next year.
HH is that a sock in your puppet or are you happy to see me?
by BigGuns on Aug 18, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's the youngest of the three, is he not?
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
by WestTxAg06 on Aug 18, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Facts? LA LA LA LA
I can’t hear you!
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Aug 18, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
which catcher
of ours would they possibly want, and what would they be willing to give up? the window to sell high on our catchers has seemingly passed.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was going to the HOF as a Ranger anyway
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 18, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
PUT A FREAKING LINK WHEN YOU MAKE A NEW THREAD LAZY ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
;)
It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca
by bioaggie on Aug 18, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the point is to make it harder to move to the new thread quickly.
Let the most seriously interested find it and move there. The others will move on.
by Texas_Dawg on Aug 18, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish you weren't so seriously interested.
It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca
by bioaggie on Aug 18, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
word
love the way you changed the quote/caption under the photo at the start of the thread…
great p.r. move, imo…
and now my investment in my Pudge 90’s jersey a few months ago looks even better!
Stay thirsty, my friends....
by hotshot215 on Aug 18, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Procedural question here
So, with Vallejo included in the deal, that frees up a 40-man spot for Pudge. Can Richardson now be optioned, and be eligible to come back up Sept. 1, or will he have to be DFA’d?
by Outworlder47 on Aug 18, 2009 2:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good question
This affects the probability of us getting to see Heidi again.
It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca
by bioaggie on Aug 18, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sigh.
John (CT)
Maybe besides the Jays, did the Braves have the worst draft? Minor is a bleh pick at 7, no 2nd rounder, Hale from the 3rd seems to be a reliever at best. Reassure me and say it wasn’t the 2nd worst.
Keith Law (3:38 PM)
I haven’t sat down to really think through a five best and any worsts besides Toronto, but top of my head I’d probably put Texas and the Mets (and the Jays) below the Braves. The Mets … did they hold a bake sale to fund their draft this year? Maybe I should have sent some cupcakes.
http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/27925/mlb-insider-keith-law
Little harsh, I’d say…is he forgetting Scheppers or just blowing him off as injury risk?
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Aug 18, 2009 2:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Kyle (Austin)
So by not signing Purke did the Rangers blow their draft? Why would a pitcher want to attend Rice anyway if they want a MLB career?
Keith Law (3:40 PM)
Purke’s going to TCU. Jameson Taillon, the best HS pitcher in the 2010 class, is going to Rice, so his choice will be pro ball or a good education while he recovers from shoulder surgery.
I don’t get the answer, but yeah.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Aug 18, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
until he's signed and proves to be healthy
i’d say i agree with this.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Including the recently off the list and "others to watch" also listed by Jamey...
…there are 42 players named there.
None of them being Vallejo.
Big fonking deal, imho.
by Texas_Dawg on Aug 18, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
RCCook, just saw this in the first Pudge thread...
O rly
Isn’t that the crazy chick that thinks Obama was born in Kenya?
LMAO. Orly Taitz. Great call.


by Texas_Dawg on Aug 18, 2009 2:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This amused me.
Now stop being a dick of Josey Wales proportions.
by Black Francis on Aug 18, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
I actually stole that joke from several people on Daily Kos, but it hasn’t stopped being funny since I first read it about 3 weeks ago.
And for the record, I only lurk at DK, along with about 8-10 other political sites of various stripes. Politics amuses me, but not so much that I feel the need to waste half my day discussing it online. Sports, OTOH…
Officially gay for Neftali Feliz
by RCCook on Aug 18, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dk
talk about the worst of the worst
usa
by Longhorn on Aug 18, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
understatement of the year
that place is a cesspool of delusions
by 6th street on Aug 18, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair
Red State and Little Green Footballs on the right aren’t exactly bastions of sanity or decency, either.
I’d classify myself as a left-libertarian (more social than economic) but freely willing to admit that both the left and right have their extremists.
Now back to Pudge talk- World Series or bust, baby!
Officially gay for Neftali Feliz
by RCCook on Aug 18, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
i dont spend time at either of those sites either. im a straight up libertarian.
ill freely admit theres a lot of garbage on conservative sites as well. but if youre spending any time at DailyKos, youre so far down the rabbit hole that not even the cheshire cat can help you out.
liberal…conservative…it doesnt matter. delusional is delusional. theres not a greater collection on the interwebs of conspiracy theorizing scum than the posters on DK.
by 6th street on Aug 18, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You DO know who owns SBN, and thus, LSB, right?
by Inkara1 on Aug 18, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, just coming here and loading the page
…funds the far left a half penny or so at a time. I love it.
by Black Francis on Aug 18, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now all we need...
…is to go get Julio Franco to be Hank’s platoon partner.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 18, 2009 2:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is Dean Palmer available?
"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009
by ghtd36 on Aug 18, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Until his arm turned into a fruit rollup before our eyes...
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 18, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone remember
Bengie GIl? That guy was awful.
by eric03tx on Aug 18, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's still kicking around
in the Mexican Leagues. I saw him play for Chihuahua this year. Not a bad player considering his age.
by jparks77 on Aug 18, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've never wanted a player gone from the team more.
He was so, so bad at all areas of the game and at such an important position.
by Texas_Dawg on Aug 18, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll see your Bengie Gil...
…and raise you a Matt Kata.
"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009
by ghtd36 on Aug 18, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fred Manrique
I used to cuss that guy out at least once a week.
Officially gay for Neftali Feliz
by RCCook on Aug 18, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has a son that plays little league ball in the DFW area
My friend’s kid and Benji’s son played on the same team.
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
by txranger7 on Aug 18, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would trade
Jeff Kunkel and Nelson Norman for Pudge anyway.
by 3Bagger on Aug 18, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another 26-15 run gets us to
93-65 and well on our way to the Wild Card berth and perhaps sniffing distance of the AL West.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 18, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another 26-15 might be difficult with Hank drowning out there
Kinsler and Hamilton can’t carry This Thing with a cipher at first base.
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
by WestTxAg06 on Aug 18, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's not a cipher
he’s an effing black hole.
by 6th street on Aug 18, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was trying to be gentle
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
by WestTxAg06 on Aug 18, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh well done
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
by hinduplaya on Aug 18, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Julio could probably still swing a bat, and he at least will take the 1st pitch every time
we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"
by eclou on Aug 18, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brian Downing was better, and could tear you in half like a small town phonebook
And he still lives here.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Aug 18, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not all prospects pan out, nor can a club keep all their prospects
Trades like this is why you collect the Vallejos and Naverez’s of the world.
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
by WestTxAg06 on Aug 18, 2009 2:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Purke who?
You just don't sit in a rocking chair, when you've built a revolution.
by Escher on Aug 18, 2009 2:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Daniels is slick
Bury the news of not signing your first-rounder by making a deal everybody wanted to happen
by oc on Aug 18, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt he's planned it like that
it may be a nice side benefit, but he didn’t suddenly start trying to trade for Pudge at 11:01 p.m. last night.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So I come home to grab some business cards
…and made the mistake of looking at the intertubes.
1. Purke turns down $4 million to go to TCU. My question is, does he come from a wealthy family? Because to me that sounds like a really, really stupid decision if he doesn’t. Fine, then. The Rangers can do without stupid pitchers.
2. Rangers trade for my main man, Pudge Rodriguez. I think this is going to be a good baseball move. Right now he’s the third best arm in Rangers history, behind his former self and Jim Sundberg. Lots of playoff experience. Lots of experience dealing with young pitchers. Maybe Salty and Teagarden can learn a thing from him, too. And you never know, he may be invigorated and hit the ball like crazy. I’m only vaguely familar with Vallejo and Nevarez. Worst case is that this becomes a Valarde type deal but I don’t think that’s even possible give who Pudge Rodriguez is and what he mans to the organization and its fans.
So, good day. I’m going back out to work again with a smile on my face.
by Black Francis on Aug 18, 2009 2:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd wager that a good number
of the older Ranger fans (older than Baseball Jesus, AGreen07 and Miles, who probably think the Rangers started with Ken Caminiti) are big Ranger fans in no small part because of Pudge. The Pre-Pudge era was a hard, painful time to be a Ranger fan. Pudge instantly gave the Rangers a personality, something tangible to be a fan of.
By the time Pudge left, the team had moved on to a place where he wasn’t considered necessary. But Pudge was a big part of this club maturing from a complete afterthought in baseball to something that we all became fans of in the ’90s.
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Aug 18, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My earliest Ranger favorites were Dave Hostetler, Larry Parrison, Pete O'Brien,
Buddy Bell, George Wright, Jose Guzman, Wayne Tolleson, Oddibe, etc.
2nd row right behind the visitor’s dugout every season since ’82, fwiw.
by Texas_Dawg on Aug 18, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I go back WAYYYY farther than that...
I remember how excited I was when they first moved here because I had developed some weird attachment to the Senators based solely on their unis.
True story – 1970 Topps baseball, I made it a point to get every Senators plus the Padres and Pilots card that year. Not sure why I didn’t have the same love for the Royals and Expos just to complete my expansion lust.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 18, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I go back to
Sundberg & Hargrove’s rookie year plus it was Billy Martin’s first year as manager.
Dave Nelson, Lenny Randle, Toby, Spencer, TAG, Joe Lovitto, Burroughs.
DClyde, Fergie, Bibby and Jackie Brown aka “The Oklahoma Curveballer” and maybe Pete Broberg & Steve Hargan.
Foucalt was in the bully.
Gave the A’s a little bit of a scare in September that year.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 18, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahh Pete Broberg...
Another case of a pitcher thrown to the wolves by the Bob Short Rangers….
and a Dartmouth alum like JD, IIRC.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 18, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought JD went to Cornell
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 18, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What the hell was I thinking??
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 18, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i fit that demographic
he was always one of my favorites, and even if he’s substantially less of a player now i am still thrilled to see him don the uniform again and be a texas ranger.
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Aug 18, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is me as well
Hell, I really didn’t care about MLB at all. Then I caught a game on TV when this new kid that people were raving about was catching. Then I saw him throw out two runners without even leaving his crouch. I was instantly hooked and became an instant Rangers fan that day.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Aug 18, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this makes me wonder how long salty is going to be out for
by Agreen07 on Aug 18, 2009 3:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I really doubt they make this deal
unless he’s out for the season.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wrong
I think they had to make the deal under the assumption he’s out for the season. they didnt have the luxury or waiting around several weeks to find out if he can make it back or not.
by 6th street on Aug 18, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well OK
I think they could’ve lived with Richardson for a week or so — but you’re probably right. Now that the deal is made, Salty is done. There’s no way they keep 3 catchers in a playoff race.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they absolutely will
when rosters expand on Sept 1. JD said as much in the booth during the game tonight. Richardson or Salty, if healthy, will be the third catcher on the team after September callups
by 6th street on Aug 18, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yah forgot about roster expansion
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus, if he's not back by Sept 1, he can't be added to the playoff roster (barring an injury)
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
by WestTxAg06 on Aug 18, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think if hes on the DL on September 1st he can be on it
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Losing Valle-who?
don’t mean a thing.
Pudge is back in town. My Mother in Law will be so thrilled. He’s been her favorite for decades.
by 3Bagger on Aug 18, 2009 3:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pudge Interview
You just don't sit in a rocking chair, when you've built a revolution.
by Escher on Aug 18, 2009 3:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
wow, he has talked to them and still thinks he could play 2,3 or 4 times a week?
by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh noticed that too
thought 4 was a bit much
by Mike E on Aug 18, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You never know when you throw in some pinch hitting appearances and whatever.
My favorite part of the interview was…
Reporter: “Are you sorry it didn’t work out in Houston”
Rodriguez: “I don’t give a shit.”
Well he didn’t really say that but you know that’s what he was thinking. At the moment he can’t possibly give a damn.
by Black Francis on Aug 18, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
2 times a week seems quite reasonable, actually.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
by thedirkatron on Aug 18, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Adam Fox is heading to Oklahoma
Presumably to take Vallejo’s spot on the roster.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 18, 2009 3:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Remember Cesar Cedeno?
As a Cardinals fan, I certainly do.
The first 5 months of 1985, Cedeno had a line of .241/.307/.336 for the Reds. He was DONE.
Then the Cardinals traded a spare part nothing (Mark Jackson) to CIN for Cedeno on Aug 29, 1985.
With Jack Clark nursing an injury that sidelined him most of September, Cedeno played in 28 games for the Redbirds. All Cesar did was throw out a month of .434/.460/.750 in those 28 games.
By June of 1986, Cedeno had played his final game in the big leagues. He really was done, but happened to find the fountain of youth for 4 or 5 weeks in a pennant race.
Maybe the Rangers get this lucky (or even remotely close to it). Maybe they don’t. But I like Texas Dawg’s analogy- they didn’t pay $2 million for a $1 million dollar home, they paid $7 for a $5 sandwich.
by Hard8 on Aug 18, 2009 3:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
OT: Dallas' most beautiful women
Sidebar on insidecorner…
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Aug 18, 2009 3:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Charity Beaver???
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Aug 18, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
That name sounds like a euphemism for “pity fuck.”
Officially gay for Neftali Feliz
by RCCook on Aug 18, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Welp, Charity begins at home
Gotta number?
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Aug 18, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
first off...
Thanks a bunch for helping waste 30 minutes before 5.
secondly, did you happen to notice that every one of their head shots had boobs?
I did.
by corbsclinton on Aug 18, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dang
I just took a few minutes to look through those. Where does one meet these women, and how much do I need to make a year to land one of them?
Officially gay for Neftali Feliz
by RCCook on Aug 18, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Purke money...
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 18, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which is evidently
More than Tom Hicks money.
by Conjunction on Aug 18, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But
Is it as much as iPhone money or Jerry Jones money?
Officially gay for Neftali Feliz
by RCCook on Aug 18, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's not much jerry Jone money left
He’s spent it all on the stadium. I think the two might be equal.
by Conjunction on Aug 18, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aura
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 18, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if Heidi tops Charity
but she’s my favorite of the group – my favorite female name, too
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 18, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally OT
Going to the game tonight. Can we take coolers? Also, anyone know how early they open the gates? Thanks for the help.
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by Parman on Aug 18, 2009 3:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
x
CONTAINER POLICY/ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES
No metal cans, glass containers, or alcoholic beverages may be carried into the stadium. No coolers, backpacks, or oversize bags allowed. All carry bags and purses must be 12″×12″×6″ or smaller, and will be searched by ballpark staff.
If you take a soft shell cooler of some kind they’ll let you take it in.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmm I've never looked for that
we just always bring in our soft cooler and backpack, but yeah no cans eithers
by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Coolers – yes.
Gates – 5 ish
Pudge said in the interview that he was driving so don’t know when he will be here.
by P1 on Aug 18, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the info
When is batting practice? Finally do players sign stuff for kids before the game?
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by Parman on Aug 18, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
only soft edged coolers
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
by Jayslick on Aug 18, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They only sign soft edged coolers?
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
by TxStCa on Aug 18, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
cant bring in like a playmate for example
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
by Jayslick on Aug 18, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow!!!!!! we actually got him? the ballpark is going to be crazy
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
by iorange555 on Aug 18, 2009 3:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
40 man implications
If Vallejo can’t get through waivers, doesn’t that mean he gets traded as a PTBNL after the season and thus both Pudge and Vallejo are on the roster until then? Or does Pudge take the place of Salty who is on the DL. Then as soon as Salty has to be added back before the Rule 5 draft, Vallejo is traded and Salty takes his spot?
I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.
by DerekSTheRed on Aug 18, 2009 3:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
2. Rodriguez could serve dual purposes come September. Triple-A Oklahoma City C Max Ramirez should be back to full strength by then after missing six weeks with a wrist problem. If Andruw Jones’ production continues to tail off, Rodriguez or Ramirez could serve as the right-handed DH with the other offering backup support to Taylor Teagarden.
http://insidecorner.dmagazine.com/2009/08/18/what-to-think-about-pudge-rodriguezs-return-to-rangers
If Max can do that down the stretch, wow that’d be a nice recovery for him. Love to see him acclimate to ML pitching, but I think Evan’s just kinda speculating.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Aug 18, 2009 3:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
it will be weird to see pudge
catching good pitching in a Rangers uniform again
by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 3:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The rotation was pretty good in 1996 wasn't it?
we won’t talk about the bullpen though
by TRO_GT on Aug 18, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ken Hill was good that year
everyone else wasn’t horrible. Except the bullpen.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Aug 18, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we had some decent pitching early in his
career didn’t we, maybe that was just a couple of good pitchers?
in any case it will be nice to see him catch decent pitching here, or at least get to play with a good defense LOL
by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin Brown
Rogers, Ken Hill, come on, it’s not like every pitcher sucked.
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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rick Helling
Bobby Witt, Nolan he caught all of them I believe, just not late in his career here
by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jamey says
German to DL, Moscoso recalled….
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 3:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
RG is kicking the nuts of the Rangers for not getting Purke signed
but is absolving JD & Nolan.
Blame goes to Hicks.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 18, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If any member of the Rangers' FO is at fault
It’s Nolan.
Purke was offered good money, absolving Hicks.
He was a good pick based on the slot in which they took him, absolving JD.
Ryan was supposed to have inside info on this based on the Sanders connection; that in large part was the root of the reason we were optimistic about signing the guy. He shit the bed.
by Conjunction on Aug 18, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then we give Nolan full credit for drafting Smoak & Ross?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 18, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For what reason?
Were they affiliated with the Sanders agency?
by Conjunction on Aug 18, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hicks
He’s the money man, so why not blame him if money was the obstacle?
FWIW, he’s currently taking a beating overseas too- he and his partner promised Liverpool’s manager a specific amount for his off-season signings, only now it looks like they’re cutting the budget to pay off those loans they re-financed over the summer.
This for a team that’s one of the biggest in England.
Officially gay for Neftali Feliz
by RCCook on Aug 18, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wonder if we'll see yet another impassioned defense of how Hicks spends
his money in this organization from Jamey any time soon?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 18, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hicks
You won’t hear that from me. I’m pretty pissed at him right now, being a massive fan of both clubs.
Officially gay for Neftali Feliz
by RCCook on Aug 18, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup
the dude is a black hole of over-leveraged-ness, and he runs 2 clubs i support
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
by Jayslick on Aug 18, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats unfortunate
you should support a real man’s club. come down to Emirates stadium any time for a match.
by 6th street on Aug 18, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sad and weak yet again from you
He offered 4 million to a high school pitcher. You can blame Hicks for a lot of things but that was a fair offer. Hicks has put up the money in the draft (both Latin and here) every year. You can come up with something better. But then again when have you ever used logic?
by superfrog on Aug 18, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unrelated.
LFC is its own thing. And what manager doesn’t want more money? Benitez has plenty to win the EPL this year. Look how much even MU cut back this year. Lots of the EPL teams are loaded up with debt.
The Purke thing is just an idiot HS kid with horrible advisers. He was given a very, very good offer. At some point you just can’t keep chasing irrationality like that.
by Texas_Dawg on Aug 18, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LFC
Yeah, I’m not so much mad at this summer’s moves- just that Benitez was given certain assurances before signing a new contract, and now those appear to have been delayed, at best. That’s what’s got me a bit upset, along with the delays in the new stadium.
Honestly, there’s 2 weeks left before the transfer window closes, and I heard today that there’s likely a cheap Greek defender on the way (which is fine- we don’t need more than that on the back line) so perhaps there’s a bit more money than the numbers being thrown out. A David Silva or Tuncay Sanli would make me especially happy, however.
As for the Rangers, I do appreciate that Hicks is sticking with a long-term plan for this club, and yeah, you’re probably right about Purke.
I’d just like to see some assurances that Hicks’ finances are going to improve or stabilize enough that both the Rangers and LFC can do what’s needed going forward to sustain the success they’re building on right now. I think Hicks has improved, but the financial concerns worry me a lot.
Officially gay for Neftali Feliz
by RCCook on Aug 18, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you believe the team should never draft players that have signability issues?
I’d still like an answer on this.
by cstorm15 on Aug 18, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Murphy: I Was Just Borrowing No. 7 from Pudge
Love the headline from IC.
"It’s always been his," Murphy said. "I was just borrowing No. 7."
http://insidecorner.dmagazine.com/2009/08/18/murphy-i-was-just-borrowing-no-7-from-pudge/
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Aug 18, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's awesome
I love Murph Dawg.
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
by WestTxAg06 on Aug 18, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is cool
Even after their collision last year that sent Murph to the DL
by Anonymous New Guy on Aug 18, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was wondering....
if he was gonna get his old number. I guess at worst they could’ve given him the spare GABBARD jersey. ;-)
by troysboys on Aug 18, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
RG Show trying to reach Pudge
but is in a bad cell.
Will try later.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 18, 2009 4:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Consider this:
Texas now has 35 Gold Gloves on its roster (Pudge has 13, Vizquel has 11, Jones has 10 and Young has 1).
Obviously it’s just a fun bit of trivia (no real impact), but I wonder if that’s some sort of record for one team.
"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009
by ghtd36 on Aug 18, 2009 4:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
CJ said today
on The Ticket that he thinks Tiny E should win the AL SS Gold Glove this year.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 18, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I gagree.
"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009
by ghtd36 on Aug 18, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He probably should for the AL
his fielding metrics are higher than anyone elses, but it won’t happen because he has a high error total.
What do voluntary mean?
by JKolar on Aug 18, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed
I think Jetes gets it again. The odd part is that he’s been kind of stellar there this yea.
by Conjunction on Aug 18, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed and he probably does
this time hes not a complete joke to get it either.
What do voluntary mean?
by JKolar on Aug 18, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Drowning
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
by WestTxAg06 on Aug 18, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tiny E should...
…but it’s not like CJ is an unbiased source.
by Texas_Dawg on Aug 18, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How much you want to bet thats the AFLAC trivia question tonight
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Rheiner is losing it
just said the Rangers offered Purke “what he should be offered for his draft spot” try twice what he should have gotten there
Also Corby said the response from Purkes people when asked about negotiating the answer was God would be negotiating for him, WUT? I hadn’t heard that have I been under a rock ?
by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 4:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Hardline
They’re entertaining and I love them, but their sports acumen is shit.
by Conjunction on Aug 18, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Purke's dad said that his going to TCU was "God's plan".
Small town yokels, imho.
by Texas_Dawg on Aug 18, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had friends who went there
…and hung out around there a lot during both HS and college. It may be a “Christian” school, but in name only from what I could tell. It wasn’t as debaucherous as where I went but only because it was much smaller, probably.
I’ll say it again, the Rangers don’t need stupid pitchers anyway. And that’s what he is if he turned down $4 million guaranteed to go to any college, much less TCU.
by Black Francis on Aug 18, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I don't think TCU
is any churchier than Southern Methodist.
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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, the first day in weeks I don't spend half the day checking the internet.
And I miss pudge!
Yeah we gave up too much, yeah pudge is just a backup type now (and will be used that way), but come on.. Pudge in Texas for a playoff run? Very cool.
I doubt vallejo ever makes us worry about it.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Aug 18, 2009 4:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you and i both man.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
by iorange555 on Aug 18, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT - Drew
Your little “Don’t Worry, Be Happy” Feliz video has caused that song to be in my head over the past several days.
I don’t know if that’s a good thing or a bad thing.
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
by txranger7 on Aug 18, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So Pudge and Vizquel on the bench
that is just awesome, must make the yankees and red sox jealous
by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 4:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
reminds me s
of the Kenny Loftin trade for Max Ramirez.
I LOVE THE RANGERS!!!
by dstar442005 on Aug 18, 2009 4:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
uh, someone who spent a decade with a team returning as a veteran presence for a teams
first playoff run in a while?
sarcasm?
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Aug 18, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally off-topic...
…but I got chills when Neftali came in last night to the Punch-Out theme. My heart went all a-flutter.
"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009
by ghtd36 on Aug 18, 2009 4:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah....did you get one of these

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was there.
Had a blast at last nights game, the section I was sitting in was awesome. Section 47, right next the bullpen. We were messing with those guys all game, and had Hamilton and Byrd laughing at us too. We all got together and shouted “We love you Josh!”, a bunch of grown ass dudes saying it in girly little voices lol. He turned around and looked at us like we were fools and just started laughing and waved at us. The best part was the O’Day meltdown though. A lot of people were booing him after he walked in the second run, but the section next to the pen was cheering wildly and generally going apeshit. Marlon Byrd turned around and looked at us like “are you guys serious? he just walked in another one.” Then he saw that Feliz was throwing and everyone was standing around the pen snapping pictures and generally just going nuts. When he saw that everyone was cheering about Feliz he started laughing hysterically, pointed right at us and started clapping. I pointed right back at him and threw my fists up in the air and he pointed back and just kept laughing. Neftali got a kick out of it too, as soon as he stood up to start throwing everyone went nuts and he just kind of laughed. Then when he ran on the field and they started playing the Punch-Out theme, the whole crowd blew its wad at once and Byrd was dancing around like Little Mac. It was awesome to say the least. Good times at RBIA last night.
"Damn right. damn right, great idea or maybe just make the punk his bitch right on the mound so all the christers in the audience can start praying and speaking in tongues and perhaps handling snakes – kind of like the scene in Bruno in the cage fight" –Stuntman Mike, on the idea of putting a hardened criminal on the team as an enforcer, and what it would be like to watch him charge the mound.
"How about during the 7th inning stretch from now on we have mass abortions on the field!!???!! Gritty nom nom nom baby JESUS donkey fuck spectacular!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We can dig up TY COBBS BONES!!!AND USE THEM TO EVACUATE SOME LUCKY FANS UTERUS!!!!" –Section 339, in response to Stuntman Mike
by txhc on Aug 18, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
tl;dr
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
God this Galloway rant is dumber than ever...
These guys are so damn clueless…
by N41D on Aug 18, 2009 4:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
compared to where?
It’s far better than anything in the major markets of NY or LA, Laker and Yankee bias aside.
by Blakington on Aug 18, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
except RG
he gives me the urge to kill
by Blakington on Aug 18, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
all sports radio
pretty much blows, in my opinion.
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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
If you are an intelligent and knowledgeable sports fan, there’s very little on sports radio that is worthwhile.
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
by WestTxAg06 on Aug 19, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably everything worth saying has been said already....
…so I feel okay going OT now.
Just upgraded to Firefox 3.5 the other night. It’s supposed to be faster but I can’t tell much of a difference. Then again I haven’t been doing a lot of surfing lately. What I have noticed is that LSB is definitely slower, though. Anyone experience the same?
I have some mouse gestures installed, a google voice extension, and I think that’s about it. Well Adblock and AVG. Those were all on my old Firefox though. I haven’t put anything else in there.
by Black Francis on Aug 18, 2009 5:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Generally LSB has been quick for me on 3.5
However, today, it was really crawling this afternoon and wouldn’t let me post- stuff like that.
Generally however, it has been very good to use for me.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Aug 18, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The sites are slow today
The techies are working on it.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 18, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually figured something else was going on today
I’m really talking about last night and the night before. I wouldn’t call what’s been happening slow…more laggy I guess. It’s just LSB as far as I can tell. Maybe it’s an LSB problem that happened to pop up the day I upgraded?
by Black Francis on Aug 18, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where does LSB rank
on SBN in terms of traffic?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
by RangerMad on Aug 18, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
people love to cry here
we could trade the worst prospect in our system and someone would still cry
by kumizi on Aug 18, 2009 5:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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