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Texas Rangers trade for Pudge Rodriguez, Part II

Jamey Newberg says the reports are Matt Nevarez and a PTBNL.

Nevarez is a nice live arm who is Rule 5 eligible this offseason, but wouldn't crack the Rangers' top 30 prospects, even with all the players graduating this year.

UPDATE -- Jamey says the Ticket is reporting that Jose Vallejo is the second player.  Vallejo + Nevarez is...steep, for a backup catcher, but I'd guess that there were some off-the-field/p.r. implications behind the decision to bring Pudge back, as well. 

And I have to think this is going to be viewed as a positive in the clubhouse, as well.

UPDATE II -- Evan Grant with some thoughts about the acquisition.

UPDATE III -- Brett Perryman has a rundown on Vallejo and Nevarez.

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Depending on the PTBNL

this sounds like a great deal. There is no way that Nevarez was going to make the 40 this offseason.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Aug 18, 2009 2:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

there is also no way

he was going to get drafted in the Rule 5 draft, fwiw…

Still, I am worried about that second player.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Has to be someone drafted last year I would suspect...

unless its conditional on how much Pudge plays or somesuch.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 18, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Guess I should read to the end before posting..

Carry on… nothing to see here.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 18, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I doubt Pudge

has much of an impact, but its not out of the realm that he is invigorated by playing in TX on a contender and outperforms what he has done on the season. He is more of the same on this team, though, free swinger with some moderate power. God forbid we add someone whose OBP excedes their BA by more than 30 pts.

And I just hate when our FO acts as buyers, because they have a pretty bad track record to date.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

honestly we didn't lose a lot here

Vallejo’s ceiling was probably German at this point and Neveraz may turn out to be a decent bullpen arm, I just don’t feel like we lost a lot with the youth and depth lower down up the middle

by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We will probably be able to pick up Nevarez as a minor league FA before he gets to the majors

he has tow years left before becoming one and since he is in Low A this year it will take a good run for him to make the majors in that time

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

my thoughts exactly.

did you get my e-mail the other day?

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Aug 18, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah I did

I’m sorry that I haven’t replied yet. I can’t get to my gmail account at work and at night it usually slips my mind…I will definitely reply tonight.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

muchos gracias

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Aug 18, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

NAMBLA wants to talk to you guys about those pics, btw...

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 18, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

North American Marlon Brando Look Alikes?

Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.

by TheJeezus on Aug 18, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh man - how do I join?

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Aug 18, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

first

buy a lot of marshmallows.

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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Per Jamey,

Other PTBN is Jose Vallejo

by fds on Aug 18, 2009 2:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

stupid move.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too high on Vallejo dude

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

but the thing is

both of these guys could reach the majors. this is well beyond what we got for Galarraga back in the day. These are two legitimate prospects (albeit somewhat buried in our farm system) being traded for 40 days of a backup catcher.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vallejo was not going to make the majors for us

Nevarez is in Low A so to say he could reach the majors is like saying Richard Alvarez could reach the majors or Mark Hamburger could reach the majors. You can’t hold onto everybody.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

but the difference

is that a guy like Hamburger is the perfect guy to trade…he has nothing in terms of stuff…Nevarez, on the other hand, has pretty decent stuff, but he’s taken a while to develop. I am more okay with him than Vallejo. They are selling low on Vallejo.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're forgetting one important thing

Houston has a say in who they accept in trade. They also know that Hamburger has nothing.

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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

but how much value does Pudge really have

Houston could either keep him and pay him the rest of his 3m salary or trade him and play their kids and save the money. So why give up two guys with some value to get a guy they were looking to dump. Could we even get this sort of a package for Blalock or Jones? Only if we could trade with ourselves…

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They overpaid

Given all the circumstances, though, I think overpaying is understandable.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 18, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe so.

But we’re not talking paying $2M for a $1M home.

We’re talking $7 for a $5 sandwich.

Yawn, etc.

by Texas_Dawg on Aug 18, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

If Atlanta was in a pennant race and needed a 4th OF

Yes I believe we could get this type of package for Jones

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Atlanta is 3 games back in the Wild Card

so they are in the race, and I don’t believe they would make this type of trade for AJ. Of course, If they want to, i’m all for it.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Aug 18, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If they needed a 4th OF I think they would do it

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huh?

Pudge and Blalock are pretty far apart in value right now. Pudge is still a good catcher, and that has value over a replacement level 1B getting worse by the day — and making a higher salary to boot. Not sure what Jones’ value is, probaby minimal, more than Blalock (by default) but less than Pudge.

Look, catcher is pretty important. Vallejo’s are replacable.

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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blalock is actually a decent defensive 1B

and he has a higher OPS than Pudge. So how does he have less value? Because he’s in a slump?

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because he plays first

not catcher

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

The best defensive first baseman ever still has nowhere near the value of a catcher with the same bat. And I think it’s questionable right now whose bat is better.

And again, Blalock has a higher salary this year, which makes him untradeable.

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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you kidding me with this?

While there are a whole lot of other pieces to this argument, are you really ignoring the vast difference between first base and catcher?!

by philkid3 on Aug 18, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes they are selling low on Vallejo

But its not like he was going to bring back a star. hell he probably wouldn’t even bring back a starter. the most I think we could ever hope from him is to bring back a toolsy young player which we are chock full of already. You are stressing way too much over losing a guy like vallejo

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vallejo

2b-only player who runs well, hits for an OK average, and offers virtually nothing in the way of secondary skills?

There’s a ton of guys like that around.

Officially gay for Neftali Feliz

by RCCook on Aug 18, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Someone who had seen him play said that

Cole, Hindman, Parks, or someone of that sort, I think.

"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT

by WestTxAg06 on Aug 18, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think we've all said it at one point or another this year

but I was definitely one of them. He’s lost at least a step both on the basepaths and in the field htis year.

by JasonCole on Aug 18, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But you're not the type

to write a prospect off because of some added weight or a rough year or because he’s depressed. That would be everyone else. So, is there any reason to believe that he can’t have a very nice year next year and “reclaim” his ceiling of a potential starting-caliber MIF?

by Goyogringo on Aug 18, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't tell if that is tongue in cheek or not

but every situation is unique. There is no blanket statement in terms of writing off guys or believing in them after one bad year. Lots of things go into them, and no two situations are even close to being the same.

And looking at Vallejo’s situation, no, I am not confident he can ever be a starting caliber player in the Majors. I never totally was even before this year. I thought he was a very good utilityman at best, and right now I’d be surprised if he reached that.

by JasonCole on Aug 18, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the analysis, Jason

"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT

by WestTxAg06 on Aug 18, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've seen that too

maybe it was Hindman. I also was one of MJH, Parks, or someone report that he seems kinds of listless. It sounded like maybe his heart/head weren’t all on baseball, didn’t his parents die in an accident a couple years back?

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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm pretty meh about it actually.

I like Vallejo but I am not running around screaming “OH MY GOD We gave up VALLEJO!”

Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."

by LBBRangerFan on Aug 18, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

easy

he is fast, and has a bad head, big deal

by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what's up with your Vallejo love?

have you seen his hitting line this year?

"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out

by tricer on Aug 18, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i saw it last year

and as much as people raped me for supposedly undervaluing Duran, I am surprised so many people are doing the same to Vallejo.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Duran>Vallejo

for me, but neither are a great loss. I don’t think Vallejo is going to ever have more than a cup of coffee.

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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and both are now Astros.

awkward

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Aug 18, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Vallejo

is a perfect bench guy on a national league team. I think he will be quite valuable for them in the future.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure

He has more value to them and Pudge has more value to the Rangers, nice deal.

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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Arias < Duran - Vallejo

got it?

Good.

"When he came up with that ball, hop or not, he looked exactly like a homeless guy who had found a long cigarette butt – only to discover it was soaked with gasoline. He could not have thrown out anyone there, even though Cust moves at about the speed of soil erosion." - Ed C.

by Chase Irwin on Aug 18, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think so.

But, maybe.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

by thedirkatron on Aug 18, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

for what its worth

i also really like Ramon Nivar…maybe I have a type.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe you just lust for the speed game that the rangers have never had?

embrace borbon instead

by UNTJosh on Aug 18, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree, it is a stupid move

two months of a used up Pudge is not worth Vallejo and a Throw-in arm. This trade sets the benchmark then for future trades with Texas. This is ridiculous.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Aug 18, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

benchmark for future trades?

Give me a break. We have some utility type guys coming up in our minors so Vallejo was expendable. Like I said in the other thread we could have gotten more for him in another trade later on probably but this is not a loss of any consequence.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vallejo has much higher upside than any of our other UI prospects

I would much rather have seen Lemon go. Who are our other middle infield prospects that have much upside?

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Aug 18, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lemon can play SS I believe

which automatically makes him better for UIF than Vallejo

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lemon is has no plus tools and is not nearly the prospect Vallejo is

Vallejo is also a level higher

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Aug 18, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Utility IF don't need plus tools

Especially when they are playing behind Elvis and Kinsler who will probably sit a combined dozen games or so a year.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kind of a moot point since

the Rangers probably fill the UT role with a veteran player.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Aug 18, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

exactly

which is why all the bitching about giving up Jose freaking Vallejo is driving me crazy

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+ 1 he ain't nobody

HH is that a sock in your puppet or are you happy to see me?

by BigGuns on Aug 18, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vallejo had as

many – tools as he had + tools not to mention his 2 cent head

by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and Lemon has??

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Aug 18, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's literally the first bad thing I've heard about JV's character/makeup

which leads me to think it’s, just, like, your opinion, man.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

by Keynes on Aug 18, 2009 2:47 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

I have read more than one report

this year, where scouts talked about how he was very vulnerable mentally. That when he had to spend time away from his family he would get really down and would sometimes just not even try. I wish I could remember where it was at, it was a lot earlier in the year and I don’t have the life force to look it up to prove myself to you.

by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i feel i read

something similar, how he had confidence issues or somesuch

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by studcrackers on Aug 18, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

IIRC, it was in the midseason roundtable over at Inside Corner

Hindman brought it up. Vallejo’s parents had recently died or something other tragic like that, and it was causing him issues, understandably.

"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT

by WestTxAg06 on Aug 18, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok that sounds like it was one of them

but didn’t Hindman say that this was something that had been a worry in the past also?

by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I think he said in the same convo that it was an ongoing worry

"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT

by WestTxAg06 on Aug 18, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vallejo

His parents were killed in a car accident in 2006.

by jparks77 on Aug 18, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah only sets the bar for trading to get a Ranger legend who fills a need for a few months

no benchmark here. Although, I agree with the sentiment that teams will ask for more from the Rangers because of the stacked system.

We are not exactly talking about Smoak here.

Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."

by LBBRangerFan on Aug 18, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think so..

Even if we overpaid, this is sort of a one-off deal, isn’t it? We’re filling a desperate need during a playoff run. I don’t think later trades will need to stack up against this one.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 18, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think that if...

…Pudge has no history with the Rangers, the Rangers would still be shopping for a backup catcher.

This is, in part, about getting people fired up and getting folks to watch and come to the park because Pudge is back. It is about several column inches the next few days about Pudge coming home, and the storyline about how he has the chance to help the team get back to the playoffs.

Do you think we’d have two discussion threads already about this deal if it were Henry Blanco or John Buck?

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 18, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No doubt.

But that added value is legit and thus worth paying up for, imho.

He knows the organization, knows the park, knows the surroundings, will do a lot to pay for his prorated contract with increased ticket sales, etc., etc.

He may not even be a John Buck at this point, but he’s the greatest all-around catcher in the history of baseball, and he’s coming home to a pennant race. I want to meet the colossal douche that thinks Cowboys mini-camp is worth talking about over that.

by Texas_Dawg on Aug 18, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

see Hansen, Dale

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 18, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 18, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh

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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why did the Rangers give up on him?

On the flip side. The Rabgers are in the playoff hunt. A playoff series is worth more than Vallejo.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Aug 18, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think this means they've "given up"

But he had no place on the ML team besides utility IF which apparently he couldn’t play SS so what good would that have done anyway? Hes had a rough season in AAA.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think Pudge is the difference in a playoff series

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Aug 18, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ur an idiot

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Aug 18, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

please explain

or was this your big thought out response to an actual good point

by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because

blueballlefty if an idiot?

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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Relax, mr. poopy pants

it’s just a bad play on words. Have you not read my other 5,000 bad puns on this site? Are you new here?

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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He may be the difference in getting to a playoff series

With his playoff experience it will be good for this team. We don’t have alot of veterans to begin with and most of the ones we have don’t have much playoff experience. Getting someone of Pudges ilk can’t hurt.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me either, but he might be the difference in GETTING to that playoff series..

Teagarden simply can’t be the only ML-caliber catcher we have for the next 40-odd days. Richardson had a great debut, but he is what he is – a 28-year old org guy..

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 18, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Called it

Parade please

by oc on Aug 18, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please

We all know you called it because you were twooting with Texas_Dawg.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 18, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Twooting?"

Is that what they’re calling gay sex these days?

Officially gay for Neftali Feliz

by RCCook on Aug 18, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

who is this "Texas_Dawg"

he called this fucking thing from the beginning.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rally OC over here!!

"When he came up with that ball, hop or not, he looked exactly like a homeless guy who had found a long cigarette butt – only to discover it was soaked with gasoline. He could not have thrown out anyone there, even though Cust moves at about the speed of soil erosion." - Ed C.

by Chase Irwin on Aug 18, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You shall dance for your parade!

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 18, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait wait,

I put in the Pudge call early on too. I want a little credit on this one!

by AceJC on Aug 18, 2009 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He claims he knows Tommy Hicks

and is also a massive douche. Just check out the post game threads some night and you’ll see.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fonk you

fwiw

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

From MLBTraderumors comments

puff puff pass dude……

we could have gotten martin perez and someone else.
this is bull.
we may as well just tear our team apart, and i’d be all for it, but we have some idiots in office…ed wade…drayton mcclane. sell the team, you morons because you certainly don’t know how to run one the correct way.
we need a total rebuild.

PERIOD. our team is old and in 2 years, we will have nothing, either get some top tier prospects now, or let them go to free agency or some bull crap we always pull instead of doing something sensible for once.

Posted by: averybear11 | August 18, 2009 at 02:13 PM

Perez for Pudge????
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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by LBBRangerFan on Aug 18, 2009 2:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That's an epic trade suggestion

Along those same lines, we should have just waited to trade Vallejo for Lincecum.

"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT

by WestTxAg06 on Aug 18, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a good one

Yeah, the Rangers weren’t crazy about giving up Martin in a deal for Hallady but for Pudge? Sure.

Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on Aug 18, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

rofl

this is almost as stupid as that trade proposal on HH where they would get Halladay for Saunders and Lee for Santana.

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"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL

by hinduplaya on Aug 18, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perez for Pudge?

Sure, if they threw in Berkman.

Officially gay for Neftali Feliz

by RCCook on Aug 18, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Lee

And paid both of their salaries for the rest of the year.

by eric03tx on Aug 18, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that Oswalt character should also be included, just of kicks

while you’re at it, Castro

Must kill Moe. Weeeeeeeee

by Baseball North on Aug 18, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

per Newberg, the ticket just report Vallejo as the second player

I would definitely not like this trade one bit, if this was the case.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Aug 18, 2009 2:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

from a value point, I agree

but throw in the fact that it’s FREAKIN’ PUDGE and it’s definitely worth it

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Aug 18, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It seems that there are many P1's

thorughout the Dallas teams’ organizations

by Anonymous New Guy on Aug 18, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What?

I’m sure they have a buddy in the Rangers org that passed along the info. It didn’t have to come from OKC.

by Anonymous New Guy on Aug 18, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not like this was some huge deal either.

It’s a name that will be forgotten (to the point it’s ever even known) by pretty much everyone within a few days anyway.

by Texas_Dawg on Aug 18, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Ticket's empire...

…stretches much farther than Jamey’s, as extensive as his is.

"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009

by ghtd36 on Aug 18, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Godfather reference?

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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm convinced they read this thread

and then called somebody who confirmed. Those guys don’t even have a clue who Vallejo is.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That could be true

But they also don’t need to know who he is if they are getting the info directly from the source.

by Anonymous New Guy on Aug 18, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and thats why no1 listens when tommyboy's sock puppet squawks

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Aug 18, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bingo

I’m calling this also.

Sturm made it known yesterday he frequents this blog.

He saw Vallejo’s name in the thread and ran with it, that cue-ball-headed motherfuck

by oc on Aug 18, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Possibly

say what you want about Bad Radio or The Ticket in general, but they do not irresponsibly report breaking news without confirmation (except for the pope dying). I doubt Bob saw that Texas_Dawg said the PTBNL is Vallejo and subsequenlty ran to his microphone to shout it out the listening audience.

by Anonymous New Guy on Aug 18, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL.

Seriously.

“I’m getting word from some dude on the internets named “Texas… Dog…”

by Texas_Dawg on Aug 18, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

your an unnamed source, man

thats how it works

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Aug 18, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Losing Vallejo

(if the Ticket’s right)

… hurts a tiny bit, I liked that dude.

Good for him though, he can play everyday down there. Best he’d do here is utility guy, and he’s apparently allergic to the left side o the infield.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

by Keynes on Aug 18, 2009 2:24 PM CDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

I don't know that Vallejo would ever become anything

But I don’t like trading him right now for a back-up catcher. Even if it is Pudge. Of course, a decent playoff run can change all of this.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

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by Gdawg on Aug 18, 2009 2:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It takes one guy off the 40

and one guy that had to be added this winter is gone. This is the type of deal you make when you have a deep system.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmm, i hadnt even thought that Vallejo was on the 40

this actually makes it really easy to swallow b/c with Vallejo on the 40 we probably end up losin someone like Pina, Phillips or Beau Jones, all guys who i probably would consider Vallejo’s equal in value to our orginization

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by blalock84 on Aug 18, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

JD sure does run a tight ship

SInce Vallejo was on the 40 he had to clear waivers. This deal was probably made at least 3-4 dyas ago. Not a word leaked out.

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by RangerMad on Aug 18, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's probably a PTBNL...

…because he hasn’t cleared waivers yet.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 18, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought it was final.

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by RangerMad on Aug 18, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good think Richardson got into the game last night

I do like that Wash gave him the game knowing it would probably be his only chance to play.

by northtexan95 on Aug 18, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pudge will not make the difference in a playoff run

Vallejo has alot of upside and is still very young.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Aug 18, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pudge or Richardson

Who do you prefer?

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Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Aug 18, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

alot of upside?

Like what? From what ive read hes limited to 2B and won’t hit for much power. So unless you consider a pinch runner a vlot of upside I have to disagree

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by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what are your sources

that say he is “limited” and what is their evidence?

by Goyogringo on Aug 18, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the evidence is

that he hasn’t played any SS, despite the club saying that they would like to see him get in some work at SS this season.

"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out

by tricer on Aug 18, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's foolish.

what if Teagarden slumps big time or gets hurt?

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Aug 18, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't Forget Will Clark

…and what he did after he was traded to the Cardinals. Pudge may go nuts and be the starting catcher within three weeks. Never know.

by Black Francis on Aug 18, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the thing is

I don’t think Vallejo carried much value, in trade or to this team.

Doesn’t mean he isn’t a good player, doesn’t mean this was a good trade, but he wasn’t going to play second here unless Kins got injured again, and for some reason he never took to SS.

So, I dunno, they found him a good home and filled a need on the major league team and solved some fortyoclypse problems. I can live with that.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

by Keynes on Aug 18, 2009 2:36 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

great interview

CJ actually does understand a whole lot about the inner workings of baseball, i guess thats why he is the player’s rep to the union

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Aug 18, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Impressively smart dude

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 18, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Liked Vallejo as a possible utility infiedler

I guess Lemon will fit into that role in the next year or two, although he doesn’t offer the spark plug type speed. Its a good trade to shore up the catching position while make a run at the playoffs.

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by m_nieft on Aug 18, 2009 2:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunately,

if you can’t put him at SS, that kind of kills Vallejo as a UIF.

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by DJCahill on Aug 18, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

plus his .320 career OBP

"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out

by tricer on Aug 18, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

his whole friggin family died in a car crash this offseason

can we give the guy a little slack for a bad season…

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Aug 18, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought that happened in 2006

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am cutting him slack for that

but I’m also not projecting him as a big league player.

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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True question is now

If he’s gonna be in uniform tonight

by Phil18989 on Aug 18, 2009 2:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I can't get ANYONE to answer this question.

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by rangerdanger on Aug 18, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vallejo

The important thing to keep in mind: losing him off the 40 means Richardson stays on it.

Which means there’s a chance we see Heidi again in September.

Priorities, people! :)

Officially gay for Neftali Feliz

by RCCook on Aug 18, 2009 2:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

YES!

The plan is coming together!

by northtexan95 on Aug 18, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

is this true

I thought Vallejo had to pass through waivers first and if not he’s a PTBNL.

I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.

by DerekSTheRed on Aug 18, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also a third catcher if the shit hits the fan

And TeaBag or Pudge get hurt. I know Salty wants to come back this season, but I’m not so sure about that.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 18, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pudge for Nevarez and Vallejo

Good for both teams. The Rangers get a veteran backup C for the stretch and the Astros get two players for someone who had no future in Houston. They also get playing time for thier young catchers.

Now, what about Lemon and Tatusko for Berkman. :)

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by RangerMad on Aug 18, 2009 2:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The future of the MIF

I give you Marcus Lemon.

Lot of depth out the door this year. And all of it to Houston.

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Aug 18, 2009 2:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

long ways off there, brotha.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ugh Elvis is 20 and Kins is locked up for

5 years so not to worried about only having 1 or 2 decent mif prospects over the next 2 years

by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about MILF prospects?

Officially gay for Neftali Feliz

by RCCook on Aug 18, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what Richardson is for..

She’s not a mom yet, therefore she’s a prospective mom.

by Trickman on Aug 18, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

pMILF?

MILF-?

We need this worked out today!

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 18, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

those two are very far away, and should not in any way be considered MIF depth right now.

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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If MIF backup is the team's worry

than I’m not worried.

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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kinsler goes down tomorrow

It’s Omar and Arias.

I mean, whatever. I’ll concede the point. God bless Vizquel.

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Aug 18, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meh

if it came to that would you really want Vallejo playing every day?

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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Theres also

German

What do voluntary mean?

by JKolar on Aug 18, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't like including Vallejo

I was hoping to add him in a trade package this off-season for a nice worthwhile person that will help in the future. Was hoping the PTBNL was Arias.

by Mike E on Aug 18, 2009 2:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hand-wringing

Vallejo has been horrible this year in AAA and has no positional flexibility. There is no reason to mourn his loss and he probably wouldn’t be valuable enough after this year’s performance to mean much in a bigger trade. He can easily be replaced by a Ramon Vazquez/Omar Vizquel type veteran for almost no cost. I have no problem with this at all.

As for Pudge making no difference in a playoff run, I also think that is an incredible overstatement. He is not a front tier player or even a starter but I feel a lot better with him backing up Teagarden than Max or KR. I say good trade.

by pblack on Aug 18, 2009 2:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's a great move.

Should bring out some extra fans and stir up some more Rangers talk going into Cowboys season as well (and fonk the NFL and the fonking Cowboys, imho, fwiw).

Great deal. Good times in the cow pastures of Arlington, imho.

by Texas_Dawg on Aug 18, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fonk fonk fonk fonk fonk

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

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-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Aug 18, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

fuck this fonk bit of yours

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

right above you fully admit you have no clue who vallejo is

now you know how great a deal it is? how is that possible?

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Aug 18, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some perspective from Kevin Goldstein

Jason Parks: Matt Nevarez and Jose Vallejo for Pudge. Not a bad deal, I guess.
KG: sure
KG: flags fly forever

by jparks77 on Aug 18, 2009 2:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

what does that mean?

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That you have the chance to make the playoffs now.

Don’t blow that chance by a game or two because you didn’t want to give up a Tier 2 prospect.

by Texas_Dawg on Aug 18, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmm

i like it. but if this team really wanted to enhance their chances to make a real run, this sort of seems like too little, too late.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

unless you get a flag

for being the wild card winner.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think that was the general idea...

…but we still play LAA 7 times, fwiw.

You might be overanalyizing the general point about avoiding bad reasons for not doing trades though, imho.

by Texas_Dawg on Aug 18, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i guess

the initial surprise of having to give up two legit prospects for a 37 year old catcher is starting to wear off. It isn’t the end of the world. I would trash JD for being a bad buyer, but he got O’Day and Grilli for a waiver claim, so he gets a pass.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like TD's

paying $7 for a $5 sandwich analogy above. I agree they may have overpaid a bit, but sometimes it’s worth it to slip the maitre d’ a $20 for a better table.

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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think this one is more like that eating place you went to in college

on Sunday night since the cafeteria was closed. It was awesome to get something that wasn’t cafeteria and you had to eat that night, so it made it taste that much better. Mine was One Guy’s in Lubbock. It’s a local place that’s hugely popular and everytime I take someone who didn’t go to Tech there, they just go “Meh”.

by AceJC on Aug 18, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gardski's was always the same way for me...

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 19, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Winning the wild card

would be huge for the org and the fans. It would mean a hell of a lot to the players, and it would mean a lot of revenue for the org.

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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would mean a hell of a lot to the future of this team too.

Teams generally get into the playoffs a time or two before they go all the way.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 18, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

would be huge for the org and the fans. It would mean a hell of a lot to the players, and it would mean a lot of revenue for the org tom hicks.

remember how Hicks said there was a way he could keep the team? that way is a playoff run id guess.

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Aug 18, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hicks

of course would benefit but crossing out ‘the org’ in that sentence is stupid. Everyone would benefit.

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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Those pennants fly forever.

Amen.

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by TxStCa on Aug 18, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

totally cut short a great interview

that was probably the best player interview i had heard in a long while on any radio station

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Aug 18, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, you know that HAVE to hurry and get to "Why today doesn't suck" or somesuch...

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by bking on Aug 18, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is more of an entertainment talk station

than a sports talk station.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
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Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Aug 18, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was cut short by the Wade Phillips press conference

not WTDS

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

x

They usually pull a segment a day and post them on their website/iTunes. I would check there later.

by GregoryM on Aug 18, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

jose vallejo and matt nevarez

really? do we really want to bitch about those 2 being gone?

usa

by Longhorn on Aug 18, 2009 2:33 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Seriously.

Some people seem to think nothing is ever given up in a trade.

by Texas_Dawg on Aug 18, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think this is such a good move

from a PR and a clubhouse perspective that it outweighs the fact that on paper with the names blotted out it is probably a poor decision.

Let’s face it, the Rangers took a big PR hit yesterday as they are heading into a stretch run for the playoffs. Getting Pudge is a boost to the team’s as well as the fans’ morale. Brings the attention back on the field and makes the Rangers look assertive.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Aug 18, 2009 2:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

clubhouse

this is hilarious to me

tom hicks stated (just after pudge was sent packing the first time) that he was an absolute clubhouse cancer

funny how pudge was a horrible person (according to hicks) and now he’s suddenly derek jeter.

defeatist pussy lives here

by sam in so cal on Aug 18, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well... he probably isn't roiding any more for starters.

I think Pudge has matured a little bit since then though. Winning a World Series probably helps.

But I don’t think he has to be some huge leader. The leaders of this team are established. Pudge just needs to do his thing.

by Texas_Dawg on Aug 18, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Got links, quotes?

I don’t remember that kind of talk. I remember Melvin and others saying he had caught a lot of innings already, and there was talk about him not being a great game caller, but I don’t remember anything about him being bad in the clubhouse.

I call bullshit.

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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't recall that, either

I know there was talk that he didn’t work with the pitchers enough and wasn’t a great game-caller.

And there was also talk that Pudge was unhappy when the Rangers signed ARod and then, basically, told him to pound sand, that they weren’t interested in keeping him around.

As far as him being a “clubhouse cancer,” though? Hadn’t heard that.

Of course, it is Tom Hicks we are talking about, so it isn’t as if we are talking about someone whose words should carry much weight on this stuff.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 18, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope Tom Hicks finally figured out

 that he is/was the real clubhouse cancer….

" I have no faith in the GM making a move to help the big club but I’m on board."
Josey Wales on the 2009 Rangers. A team with 18 active players acquired by the current GM.

by red3biggs on Aug 18, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

from hicks' mouth at his house at a party

why on earth would i make this up? it’s not like i’m saying i had sex with richardson’s wife?

defeatist pussy lives here

by sam in so cal on Aug 18, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, fine, then

but still that means the only one saying it was Hicks. So, if your point is it’s funny that Hicks said that and will now probably make nice noises about Pudge’s return, sure.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So we're quoting a drunk Hicks now???

he says enough silly shit as it is; do we really need to hang on what he says while he’s drinking??

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 18, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and he cant call a game b/c he's lazy and doesnt do his pregame work and he calls pitches deliberately just to get runners even to fastball hitters.

yup 6 years changes the lies coming out of an organizations mouth.

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Aug 18, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Any chance it also changes the player???

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 19, 2009 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

From a PR perspective...

…this may open the door for Pudge to retire as a Texas Ranger then go ito the HOF as a Ranger.

"Just take the ball and throw it where you want to. Throw strikes. Home plate don't move." - Satchel Paige

"Josh Hamilton doesn't act like he is Josh Hamilton. He acts like a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy named Josh Hamilton." - Jason Parks

by pro82 on Aug 18, 2009 2:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Lemme axe ya',

Is Boston going to be in the market for a catcher again this offseason?

And what I mean by that is, considering we still have depth at the catching position…..even though the Tender Trio have had substandard campaigns… is there any chance the Rangers still move a catcher and perhaps sign Pudge to a one-year deal as a back-up in 2010?

Or is this it?

by oc on Aug 18, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah theres a chance

Depends on how the organization views Max. With his injuries this year I wonder if they start considering moving him off catcher (even though i realize his injuries aren’t positionally related). And what do they do with Pina? If they protect him then I doubt they resign Pudge but if they don’t and especially if he gets taken in the rule 5 then I think theres a pretty good chance we look into resigning pudge for one year.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, and if he doesn't carry a big stick, he's out.

Plenty of catchers out there that can run the “All D, no bat” bit.

"When he came up with that ball, hop or not, he looked exactly like a homeless guy who had found a long cigarette butt – only to discover it was soaked with gasoline. He could not have thrown out anyone there, even though Cust moves at about the speed of soil erosion." - Ed C.

by Chase Irwin on Aug 18, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I never said id name him the starter

But I fail to see how he is the one running out of time the fastest

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

correct not only that...

but you don’t really know how much of an impact his condition has had on his suckage this year. We need to find out next year.

HH is that a sock in your puppet or are you happy to see me?

by BigGuns on Aug 18, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's the youngest of the three, is he not?

"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT

by WestTxAg06 on Aug 18, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Aug 18, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Facts? LA LA LA LA

I can’t hear you!

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 18, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

which catcher

of ours would they possibly want, and what would they be willing to give up? the window to sell high on our catchers has seemingly passed.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

word

love the way you changed the quote/caption under the photo at the start of the thread…
great p.r. move, imo…
and now my investment in my Pudge 90’s jersey a few months ago looks even better!

Stay thirsty, my friends....

by hotshot215 on Aug 18, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Procedural question here

So, with Vallejo included in the deal, that frees up a 40-man spot for Pudge. Can Richardson now be optioned, and be eligible to come back up Sept. 1, or will he have to be DFA’d?

by Outworlder47 on Aug 18, 2009 2:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good question

This affects the probability of us getting to see Heidi again.

It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca

by bioaggie on Aug 18, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Optioned

And yes come back on September 1st if we want

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sigh.
John (CT)
Maybe besides the Jays, did the Braves have the worst draft? Minor is a bleh pick at 7, no 2nd rounder, Hale from the 3rd seems to be a reliever at best. Reassure me and say it wasn’t the 2nd worst.

Keith Law (3:38 PM)
I haven’t sat down to really think through a five best and any worsts besides Toronto, but top of my head I’d probably put Texas and the Mets (and the Jays) below the Braves. The Mets … did they hold a bake sale to fund their draft this year? Maybe I should have sent some cupcakes.

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/27925/mlb-insider-keith-law

Little harsh, I’d say…is he forgetting Scheppers or just blowing him off as injury risk?

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Aug 18, 2009 2:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Kyle (Austin)
So by not signing Purke did the Rangers blow their draft? Why would a pitcher want to attend Rice anyway if they want a MLB career?

Keith Law (3:40 PM)
Purke’s going to TCU. Jameson Taillon, the best HS pitcher in the 2010 class, is going to Rice, so his choice will be pro ball or a good education while he recovers from shoulder surgery.

I don’t get the answer, but yeah.

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Aug 18, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome

Go Owls. We may screw up your arm, but at least you’ll make money when your minor league career comes to a disappointing end.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Aug 18, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

until he's signed and proves to be healthy

i’d say i agree with this.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Aug 18, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

RCCook, just saw this in the first Pudge thread...
O rly

Isn’t that the crazy chick that thinks Obama was born in Kenya?

LMAO. Orly Taitz. Great call.

by Texas_Dawg on Aug 18, 2009 2:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This amused me.

Now stop being a dick of Josey Wales proportions.

by Black Francis on Aug 18, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

I actually stole that joke from several people on Daily Kos, but it hasn’t stopped being funny since I first read it about 3 weeks ago.

And for the record, I only lurk at DK, along with about 8-10 other political sites of various stripes. Politics amuses me, but not so much that I feel the need to waste half my day discussing it online. Sports, OTOH…

Officially gay for Neftali Feliz

by RCCook on Aug 18, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

dk

talk about the worst of the worst

usa

by Longhorn on Aug 18, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

understatement of the year

that place is a cesspool of delusions

by 6th street on Aug 18, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

To be fair

Red State and Little Green Footballs on the right aren’t exactly bastions of sanity or decency, either.

I’d classify myself as a left-libertarian (more social than economic) but freely willing to admit that both the left and right have their extremists.

Now back to Pudge talk- World Series or bust, baby!

Officially gay for Neftali Feliz

by RCCook on Aug 18, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well

i dont spend time at either of those sites either. im a straight up libertarian.

ill freely admit theres a lot of garbage on conservative sites as well. but if youre spending any time at DailyKos, youre so far down the rabbit hole that not even the cheshire cat can help you out.

liberal…conservative…it doesnt matter. delusional is delusional. theres not a greater collection on the interwebs of conspiracy theorizing scum than the posters on DK.

by 6th street on Aug 18, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, just coming here and loading the page

…funds the far left a half penny or so at a time. I love it.

by Black Francis on Aug 18, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

a fucking jackass. but i feel better when i have drudge open so it’s all good…

usa

by Longhorn on Aug 18, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now all we need...

…is to go get Julio Franco to be Hank’s platoon partner.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 18, 2009 2:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Is Dean Palmer available?

"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009

by ghtd36 on Aug 18, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Until his arm turned into a fruit rollup before our eyes...

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 18, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does anyone remember

Bengie GIl? That guy was awful.

by eric03tx on Aug 18, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's still kicking around

in the Mexican Leagues. I saw him play for Chihuahua this year. Not a bad player considering his age.

by jparks77 on Aug 18, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've never wanted a player gone from the team more.

He was so, so bad at all areas of the game and at such an important position.

by Texas_Dawg on Aug 18, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll see your Bengie Gil...

…and raise you a Matt Kata.

"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009

by ghtd36 on Aug 18, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fred Manrique

I used to cuss that guy out at least once a week.

Officially gay for Neftali Feliz

by RCCook on Aug 18, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He has a son that plays little league ball in the DFW area

My friend’s kid and Benji’s son played on the same team.

It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin

by txranger7 on Aug 18, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would trade

Jeff Kunkel and Nelson Norman for Pudge anyway.

by 3Bagger on Aug 18, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another 26-15 run gets us to

93-65 and well on our way to the Wild Card berth and perhaps sniffing distance of the AL West.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 18, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another 26-15 might be difficult with Hank drowning out there

Kinsler and Hamilton can’t carry This Thing with a cipher at first base.

"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT

by WestTxAg06 on Aug 18, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's not a cipher

he’s an effing black hole.

by 6th street on Aug 18, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was trying to be gentle

"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT

by WestTxAg06 on Aug 18, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

heh well done

After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL

by hinduplaya on Aug 18, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brian Downing was better, and could tear you in half like a small town phonebook

And he still lives here.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 18, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not all prospects pan out, nor can a club keep all their prospects

Trades like this is why you collect the Vallejos and Naverez’s of the world.

"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT

by WestTxAg06 on Aug 18, 2009 2:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Purke who?

You just don't sit in a rocking chair, when you've built a revolution.

by Escher on Aug 18, 2009 2:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Daniels is slick

Bury the news of not signing your first-rounder by making a deal everybody wanted to happen

by oc on Aug 18, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I doubt he's planned it like that

it may be a nice side benefit, but he didn’t suddenly start trying to trade for Pudge at 11:01 p.m. last night.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So I come home to grab some business cards

…and made the mistake of looking at the intertubes.

1. Purke turns down $4 million to go to TCU. My question is, does he come from a wealthy family? Because to me that sounds like a really, really stupid decision if he doesn’t. Fine, then. The Rangers can do without stupid pitchers.

2. Rangers trade for my main man, Pudge Rodriguez. I think this is going to be a good baseball move. Right now he’s the third best arm in Rangers history, behind his former self and Jim Sundberg. Lots of playoff experience. Lots of experience dealing with young pitchers. Maybe Salty and Teagarden can learn a thing from him, too. And you never know, he may be invigorated and hit the ball like crazy. I’m only vaguely familar with Vallejo and Nevarez. Worst case is that this becomes a Valarde type deal but I don’t think that’s even possible give who Pudge Rodriguez is and what he mans to the organization and its fans.

So, good day. I’m going back out to work again with a smile on my face.

by Black Francis on Aug 18, 2009 2:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd wager that a good number

of the older Ranger fans (older than Baseball Jesus, AGreen07 and Miles, who probably think the Rangers started with Ken Caminiti) are big Ranger fans in no small part because of Pudge. The Pre-Pudge era was a hard, painful time to be a Ranger fan. Pudge instantly gave the Rangers a personality, something tangible to be a fan of.

By the time Pudge left, the team had moved on to a place where he wasn’t considered necessary. But Pudge was a big part of this club maturing from a complete afterthought in baseball to something that we all became fans of in the ’90s.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Aug 18, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My earliest Ranger favorites were Dave Hostetler, Larry Parrison, Pete O'Brien,

Buddy Bell, George Wright, Jose Guzman, Wayne Tolleson, Oddibe, etc.

2nd row right behind the visitor’s dugout every season since ’82, fwiw.

by Texas_Dawg on Aug 18, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I go back WAYYYY farther than that...

I remember how excited I was when they first moved here because I had developed some weird attachment to the Senators based solely on their unis.

True story – 1970 Topps baseball, I made it a point to get every Senators plus the Padres and Pilots card that year. Not sure why I didn’t have the same love for the Royals and Expos just to complete my expansion lust.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 18, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I go back to

Sundberg & Hargrove’s rookie year plus it was Billy Martin’s first year as manager.

Dave Nelson, Lenny Randle, Toby, Spencer, TAG, Joe Lovitto, Burroughs.

DClyde, Fergie, Bibby and Jackie Brown aka “The Oklahoma Curveballer” and maybe Pete Broberg & Steve Hargan.

Foucalt was in the bully.

Gave the A’s a little bit of a scare in September that year.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 18, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahh Pete Broberg...

Another case of a pitcher thrown to the wolves by the Bob Short Rangers….

and a Dartmouth alum like JD, IIRC.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 18, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought JD went to Cornell

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 18, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What the hell was I thinking??

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 18, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i fit that demographic

he was always one of my favorites, and even if he’s substantially less of a player now i am still thrilled to see him don the uniform again and be a texas ranger.

by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Aug 18, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is me as well

Hell, I really didn’t care about MLB at all. Then I caught a game on TV when this new kid that people were raving about was catching. Then I saw him throw out two runners without even leaving his crouch. I was instantly hooked and became an instant Rangers fan that day.

Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."

by LBBRangerFan on Aug 18, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really doubt they make this deal

unless he’s out for the season.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wrong

I think they had to make the deal under the assumption he’s out for the season. they didnt have the luxury or waiting around several weeks to find out if he can make it back or not.

by 6th street on Aug 18, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well OK

I think they could’ve lived with Richardson for a week or so — but you’re probably right. Now that the deal is made, Salty is done. There’s no way they keep 3 catchers in a playoff race.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

they absolutely will

when rosters expand on Sept 1. JD said as much in the booth during the game tonight. Richardson or Salty, if healthy, will be the third catcher on the team after September callups

by 6th street on Aug 18, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yah forgot about roster expansion

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus, if he's not back by Sept 1, he can't be added to the playoff roster (barring an injury)

"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT

by WestTxAg06 on Aug 18, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think if hes on the DL on September 1st he can be on it

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

::snap throw to first::

by Mike E on Aug 18, 2009 3:09 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Losing Valle-who?

don’t mean a thing.

Pudge is back in town. My Mother in Law will be so thrilled. He’s been her favorite for decades.

by 3Bagger on Aug 18, 2009 3:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Pudge Interview

LINK

You just don't sit in a rocking chair, when you've built a revolution.

by Escher on Aug 18, 2009 3:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

heh noticed that too

thought 4 was a bit much

by Mike E on Aug 18, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You never know when you throw in some pinch hitting appearances and whatever.

My favorite part of the interview was…

Reporter: “Are you sorry it didn’t work out in Houston”
Rodriguez: “I don’t give a shit.”

Well he didn’t really say that but you know that’s what he was thinking. At the moment he can’t possibly give a damn.

by Black Francis on Aug 18, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Remember Cesar Cedeno?

As a Cardinals fan, I certainly do.

The first 5 months of 1985, Cedeno had a line of .241/.307/.336 for the Reds. He was DONE.

Then the Cardinals traded a spare part nothing (Mark Jackson) to CIN for Cedeno on Aug 29, 1985.

With Jack Clark nursing an injury that sidelined him most of September, Cedeno played in 28 games for the Redbirds. All Cesar did was throw out a month of .434/.460/.750 in those 28 games.

By June of 1986, Cedeno had played his final game in the big leagues. He really was done, but happened to find the fountain of youth for 4 or 5 weeks in a pennant race.

Maybe the Rangers get this lucky (or even remotely close to it). Maybe they don’t. But I like Texas Dawg’s analogy- they didn’t pay $2 million for a $1 million dollar home, they paid $7 for a $5 sandwich.

by Hard8 on Aug 18, 2009 3:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

OT: Dallas' most beautiful women

Sidebar on insidecorner…

Yes.

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Aug 18, 2009 3:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Charity Beaver???

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Aug 18, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

That name sounds like a euphemism for “pity fuck.”

Officially gay for Neftali Feliz

by RCCook on Aug 18, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Welp, Charity begins at home

Gotta number?

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 18, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

first off...

Thanks a bunch for helping waste 30 minutes before 5.

secondly, did you happen to notice that every one of their head shots had boobs?

I did.

by corbsclinton on Aug 18, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dang

I just took a few minutes to look through those. Where does one meet these women, and how much do I need to make a year to land one of them?

Officially gay for Neftali Feliz

by RCCook on Aug 18, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Purke money...

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 18, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But

Is it as much as iPhone money or Jerry Jones money?

Officially gay for Neftali Feliz

by RCCook on Aug 18, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aura

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Aug 18, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know if Heidi tops Charity

but she’s my favorite of the group – my favorite female name, too

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Aug 18, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Totally OT

Going to the game tonight. Can we take coolers? Also, anyone know how early they open the gates? Thanks for the help.

Your 2009 Snow Monkey Ambassador

by Parman on Aug 18, 2009 3:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

x
CONTAINER POLICY/ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES
    No metal cans, glass containers, or alcoholic beverages may be carried into the stadium. No coolers, backpacks, or oversize bags allowed. All carry bags and purses must be 12″×12″×6″ or smaller, and will be searched by ballpark staff.

If you take a soft shell cooler of some kind they’ll let you take it in.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmm I've never looked for that

we just always bring in our soft cooler and backpack, but yeah no cans eithers

by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Coolers – yes.
Gates – 5 ish
Pudge said in the interview that he was driving so don’t know when he will be here.

by P1 on Aug 18, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the info

When is batting practice? Finally do players sign stuff for kids before the game?

Your 2009 Snow Monkey Ambassador

by Parman on Aug 18, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

only soft edged coolers

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Aug 18, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They only sign soft edged coolers?

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by TxStCa on Aug 18, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

cant bring in like a playmate for example

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Aug 18, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

40 man implications

If Vallejo can’t get through waivers, doesn’t that mean he gets traded as a PTBNL after the season and thus both Pudge and Vallejo are on the roster until then? Or does Pudge take the place of Salty who is on the DL. Then as soon as Salty has to be added back before the Rule 5 draft, Vallejo is traded and Salty takes his spot?

I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.

by DerekSTheRed on Aug 18, 2009 3:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

2. Rodriguez could serve dual purposes come September. Triple-A Oklahoma City C Max Ramirez should be back to full strength by then after missing six weeks with a wrist problem. If Andruw Jones’ production continues to tail off, Rodriguez or Ramirez could serve as the right-handed DH with the other offering backup support to Taylor Teagarden.

http://insidecorner.dmagazine.com/2009/08/18/what-to-think-about-pudge-rodriguezs-return-to-rangers

If Max can do that down the stretch, wow that’d be a nice recovery for him. Love to see him acclimate to ML pitching, but I think Evan’s just kinda speculating.

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Aug 18, 2009 3:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

it will be weird to see pudge

catching good pitching in a Rangers uniform again

by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 3:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The rotation was pretty good in 1996 wasn't it?

we won’t talk about the bullpen though

by TRO_GT on Aug 18, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ken Hill was good that year

everyone else wasn’t horrible. Except the bullpen.

Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."

by LBBRangerFan on Aug 18, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

we had some decent pitching early in his

career didn’t we, maybe that was just a couple of good pitchers?
in any case it will be nice to see him catch decent pitching here, or at least get to play with a good defense LOL

by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kevin Brown

Rogers, Ken Hill, come on, it’s not like every pitcher sucked.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rick Helling

Bobby Witt, Nolan he caught all of them I believe, just not late in his career here

by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jamey says

German to DL, Moscoso recalled….

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 3:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

RG is kicking the nuts of the Rangers for not getting Purke signed

but is absolving JD & Nolan.

Blame goes to Hicks.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 18, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If any member of the Rangers' FO is at fault

It’s Nolan.
Purke was offered good money, absolving Hicks.
He was a good pick based on the slot in which they took him, absolving JD.
Ryan was supposed to have inside info on this based on the Sanders connection; that in large part was the root of the reason we were optimistic about signing the guy. He shit the bed.

by Conjunction on Aug 18, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then we give Nolan full credit for drafting Smoak & Ross?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 18, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

For what reason?

Were they affiliated with the Sanders agency?

by Conjunction on Aug 18, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hicks

He’s the money man, so why not blame him if money was the obstacle?

FWIW, he’s currently taking a beating overseas too- he and his partner promised Liverpool’s manager a specific amount for his off-season signings, only now it looks like they’re cutting the budget to pay off those loans they re-financed over the summer.

This for a team that’s one of the biggest in England.

Officially gay for Neftali Feliz

by RCCook on Aug 18, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wonder if we'll see yet another impassioned defense of how Hicks spends

his money in this organization from Jamey any time soon?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 18, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hicks

You won’t hear that from me. I’m pretty pissed at him right now, being a massive fan of both clubs.

Officially gay for Neftali Feliz

by RCCook on Aug 18, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yup

the dude is a black hole of over-leveraged-ness, and he runs 2 clubs i support

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Aug 18, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats unfortunate

you should support a real man’s club. come down to Emirates stadium any time for a match.

by 6th street on Aug 18, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sad and weak yet again from you

He offered 4 million to a high school pitcher. You can blame Hicks for a lot of things but that was a fair offer. Hicks has put up the money in the draft (both Latin and here) every year. You can come up with something better. But then again when have you ever used logic?

by superfrog on Aug 18, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unrelated.

LFC is its own thing. And what manager doesn’t want more money? Benitez has plenty to win the EPL this year. Look how much even MU cut back this year. Lots of the EPL teams are loaded up with debt.

The Purke thing is just an idiot HS kid with horrible advisers. He was given a very, very good offer. At some point you just can’t keep chasing irrationality like that.

by Texas_Dawg on Aug 18, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LFC

Yeah, I’m not so much mad at this summer’s moves- just that Benitez was given certain assurances before signing a new contract, and now those appear to have been delayed, at best. That’s what’s got me a bit upset, along with the delays in the new stadium.

Honestly, there’s 2 weeks left before the transfer window closes, and I heard today that there’s likely a cheap Greek defender on the way (which is fine- we don’t need more than that on the back line) so perhaps there’s a bit more money than the numbers being thrown out. A David Silva or Tuncay Sanli would make me especially happy, however.

As for the Rangers, I do appreciate that Hicks is sticking with a long-term plan for this club, and yeah, you’re probably right about Purke.

I’d just like to see some assurances that Hicks’ finances are going to improve or stabilize enough that both the Rangers and LFC can do what’s needed going forward to sustain the success they’re building on right now. I think Hicks has improved, but the financial concerns worry me a lot.

Officially gay for Neftali Feliz

by RCCook on Aug 18, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Murphy: I Was Just Borrowing No. 7 from Pudge

Love the headline from IC.

"It’s always been his," Murphy said. "I was just borrowing No. 7."


http://insidecorner.dmagazine.com/2009/08/18/murphy-i-was-just-borrowing-no-7-from-pudge/

Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."

by LBBRangerFan on Aug 18, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's awesome

I love Murph Dawg.

"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT

by WestTxAg06 on Aug 18, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is cool

Even after their collision last year that sent Murph to the DL

by Anonymous New Guy on Aug 18, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was wondering....

if he was gonna get his old number. I guess at worst they could’ve given him the spare GABBARD jersey. ;-)

by troysboys on Aug 18, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

RG Show trying to reach Pudge

but is in a bad cell.

Will try later.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 18, 2009 4:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Consider this:

Texas now has 35 Gold Gloves on its roster (Pudge has 13, Vizquel has 11, Jones has 10 and Young has 1).

Obviously it’s just a fun bit of trivia (no real impact), but I wonder if that’s some sort of record for one team.

"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009

by ghtd36 on Aug 18, 2009 4:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

CJ said today

on The Ticket that he thinks Tiny E should win the AL SS Gold Glove this year.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 18, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I gagree.

"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009

by ghtd36 on Aug 18, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He probably should for the AL

his fielding metrics are higher than anyone elses, but it won’t happen because he has a high error total.

What do voluntary mean?

by JKolar on Aug 18, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed

I think Jetes gets it again. The odd part is that he’s been kind of stellar there this yea.

by Conjunction on Aug 18, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed and he probably does

this time hes not a complete joke to get it either.

What do voluntary mean?

by JKolar on Aug 18, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Drowning

"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT

by WestTxAg06 on Aug 18, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tiny E should...

…but it’s not like CJ is an unbiased source.

by Texas_Dawg on Aug 18, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How much you want to bet thats the AFLAC trivia question tonight

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bingo.

"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009

by ghtd36 on Aug 18, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mike Rheiner is losing it

just said the Rangers offered Purke “what he should be offered for his draft spot” try twice what he should have gotten there
Also Corby said the response from Purkes people when asked about negotiating the answer was God would be negotiating for him, WUT? I hadn’t heard that have I been under a rock ?

by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 4:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Hardline

They’re entertaining and I love them, but their sports acumen is shit.

by Conjunction on Aug 18, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I had friends who went there

…and hung out around there a lot during both HS and college. It may be a “Christian” school, but in name only from what I could tell. It wasn’t as debaucherous as where I went but only because it was much smaller, probably.

I’ll say it again, the Rangers don’t need stupid pitchers anyway. And that’s what he is if he turned down $4 million guaranteed to go to any college, much less TCU.

by Black Francis on Aug 18, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I don't think TCU

is any churchier than Southern Methodist.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, the first day in weeks I don't spend half the day checking the internet.

And I miss pudge!

Yeah we gave up too much, yeah pudge is just a backup type now (and will be used that way), but come on.. Pudge in Texas for a playoff run? Very cool.

I doubt vallejo ever makes us worry about it.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Aug 18, 2009 4:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

you and i both man.

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on Aug 18, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OT - Drew

Your little “Don’t Worry, Be Happy” Feliz video has caused that song to be in my head over the past several days.

I don’t know if that’s a good thing or a bad thing.

It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin

by txranger7 on Aug 18, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So Pudge and Vizquel on the bench

that is just awesome, must make the yankees and red sox jealous

by blueballlefty on Aug 18, 2009 4:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

reminds me s

of the Kenny Loftin trade for Max Ramirez.

I LOVE THE RANGERS!!!

by dstar442005 on Aug 18, 2009 4:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Totally off-topic...

…but I got chills when Neftali came in last night to the Punch-Out theme. My heart went all a-flutter.

"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009

by ghtd36 on Aug 18, 2009 4:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah....did you get one of these

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 18, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was there.

Had a blast at last nights game, the section I was sitting in was awesome. Section 47, right next the bullpen. We were messing with those guys all game, and had Hamilton and Byrd laughing at us too. We all got together and shouted “We love you Josh!”, a bunch of grown ass dudes saying it in girly little voices lol. He turned around and looked at us like we were fools and just started laughing and waved at us. The best part was the O’Day meltdown though. A lot of people were booing him after he walked in the second run, but the section next to the pen was cheering wildly and generally going apeshit. Marlon Byrd turned around and looked at us like “are you guys serious? he just walked in another one.” Then he saw that Feliz was throwing and everyone was standing around the pen snapping pictures and generally just going nuts. When he saw that everyone was cheering about Feliz he started laughing hysterically, pointed right at us and started clapping. I pointed right back at him and threw my fists up in the air and he pointed back and just kept laughing. Neftali got a kick out of it too, as soon as he stood up to start throwing everyone went nuts and he just kind of laughed. Then when he ran on the field and they started playing the Punch-Out theme, the whole crowd blew its wad at once and Byrd was dancing around like Little Mac. It was awesome to say the least. Good times at RBIA last night.

"Damn right. damn right, great idea or maybe just make the punk his bitch right on the mound so all the christers in the audience can start praying and speaking in tongues and perhaps handling snakes – kind of like the scene in Bruno in the cage fight" –Stuntman Mike, on the idea of putting a hardened criminal on the team as an enforcer, and what it would be like to watch him charge the mound.

"How about during the 7th inning stretch from now on we have mass abortions on the field!!???!! Gritty nom nom nom baby JESUS donkey fuck spectacular!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We can dig up TY COBBS BONES!!!AND USE THEM TO EVACUATE SOME LUCKY FANS UTERUS!!!!" –Section 339, in response to Stuntman Mike

by txhc on Aug 18, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

tl;dr

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Aug 18, 2009 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

compared to where?

It’s far better than anything in the major markets of NY or LA, Laker and Yankee bias aside.

by Blakington on Aug 18, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

except RG

he gives me the urge to kill

by Blakington on Aug 18, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

all sports radio

pretty much blows, in my opinion.

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by t ball on Aug 18, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

If you are an intelligent and knowledgeable sports fan, there’s very little on sports radio that is worthwhile.

"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT

by WestTxAg06 on Aug 19, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably everything worth saying has been said already....

…so I feel okay going OT now.

Just upgraded to Firefox 3.5 the other night. It’s supposed to be faster but I can’t tell much of a difference. Then again I haven’t been doing a lot of surfing lately. What I have noticed is that LSB is definitely slower, though. Anyone experience the same?

I have some mouse gestures installed, a google voice extension, and I think that’s about it. Well Adblock and AVG. Those were all on my old Firefox though. I haven’t put anything else in there.

by Black Francis on Aug 18, 2009 5:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Generally LSB has been quick for me on 3.5

However, today, it was really crawling this afternoon and wouldn’t let me post- stuff like that.

Generally however, it has been very good to use for me.

Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."

by LBBRangerFan on Aug 18, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The sites are slow today

The techies are working on it.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 18, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually figured something else was going on today

I’m really talking about last night and the night before. I wouldn’t call what’s been happening slow…more laggy I guess. It’s just LSB as far as I can tell. Maybe it’s an LSB problem that happened to pop up the day I upgraded?

by Black Francis on Aug 18, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where does LSB rank

on SBN in terms of traffic?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Aug 18, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Same here

just downloaded 3.5 as well

by Horns130 on Aug 18, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

people love to cry here

we could trade the worst prospect in our system and someone would still cry

by kumizi on Aug 18, 2009 5:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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