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Eddie Guardado to the disabled list, Willie Eyre recalled

Eddie Guardado is headed to the disabled listWillie Eyre is being recalled.

I've thought for a little while now Eddie was going to have a d.l. trip.  I don't think the Rangers feel comfortable with him being out on the mound right now, but they also don't want to cut ties with him.  This allows them to let him rest his arm for a couple of weeks, stay with the team, and then activated him in September.

With Jason Grilli due back soon, along with Nelson Cruz, Eyre and Guillermo Moscoso are likely going to end up heading back to Oklahoma by Sunday.

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Guess that case of “shittypitcheritis” is finally bad enough to put him on the DL…

Officially gay for Neftali Feliz

by RCCook on Aug 19, 2009 5:00 PM CDT reply actions  

I think it's called "tired career"

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by t ball on Aug 19, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

CJ now the only lefty in the pen

This will really confuse RW. How is Eyre against lefties?

"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."

by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 19, 2009 5:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Can't be worse than Guardado

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Aug 19, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's not saying much

"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."

by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 19, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

One down, two to go

I’d rather keep Moscoso up when Grilli returns and just dump/DL Jennings. Also got to figure out what to do with Blalock

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Aug 19, 2009 5:02 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree with this

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Aug 19, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Me too

my better is better than your better.

by rangerjake on Aug 19, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, we know what to do with Blalock...

Ephesians 3:20-21...and I can only imagine

by TedFord on Aug 19, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why?

He’s been okay this season. Not great, but he’s not been terrible.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 19, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here you go again...

Did JJ give you a ball or something?

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by TxStCa on Aug 19, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't understand this

4.70 FIP.
Sub-4 ERA.
Walk, K and HR rates all about average.
LOB% above average.
BABIP is a tad above average.
LD% is below average.

So yeah, I don’t see how he’s been terrible this season.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 19, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

What is his

inherited runners scored rate? When the manager uses him in situations with runners on base, and he lets EVERY SINGLE ONE score…it hurts the team, and loses games.

my better is better than your better.

by rangerjake on Aug 19, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

As long as you bring him in with no runners on base he is decent

But he has been bad the second half and when brought in with runners on they are more than likely gonna score

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 19, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

this is one where I'm going to insist on the "eye test"

every time he throws a baseball over the plate, I cringe, expecting it to leave the yard

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Aug 19, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

And yet...

…he’s been okay this year.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 19, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not lately.

He’s a pitcher with underwhelming stuff that relies heavily on command and location to be effective. Recently, he’s missed spots consistently and gotten hammered. The pitch he gave up to Delmon Young was a center-square BP 88 mph fastball.

You can’t seriously say you’d be comfortable with him in a close game, would you?

Way to not lurk and instead shit all over yourself during your first fanshot.

-FirebatM3 to Ryan2907. 6/3/09.

by SarasotaRanger on Aug 19, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jamey Wright was okay up to a point too

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Aug 19, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't really trust him because he doesn't throw enough strikes, and isn't a strikeout pitcher

Dude throws barely over 60% strikes, and strikes out 16.4% (below average for relievers). As far as relievers are concerned, you can’t walk people unless you can strike a lot of them out as well.

Mathis is in the same boat, I don’t trust him either. He has those raccoon eyesockets

by Telegraph on Aug 19, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was okay...

earlier in the year.

The last month or so he has been pretty bad though.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Aug 19, 2009 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jennings is untrustworthy of late (in the last month)

IP K ERA WHIP
10.1 9 6.97 2.32

It’s telling, too, imo, that he has only gotten 10.1 innings in the past month

by BuckyB on Aug 19, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

4.70 FIP

Isn’t that pretty shitty?

"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out

by tricer on Aug 19, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well if a 4.50 FIP for Feldman barely makes him a back of the rotation guy

I would guess a 4.70 FIP for Jennings makes him the definition of suck

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Aug 19, 2009 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's been pretty bad in the 2nd half

His numbers are propped up by a great May.

If you are willing to say Blalock needs to go due to recent performance, you need to accept the same for Jennings.

"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."

by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 19, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Blalock has been bad all year

And his recent performance has been worse than Jennings’ recent performance.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 19, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Blalock had a couple of good months before the break that help his overall numbers

Same as Jennings. Both have been pretty bad since.

"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."

by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 19, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

His ERAs by month:
april 4.26
May 2.61
June 3.66
July 3.38
August 7.94 (in 5.2 IP)

It’s all about perception. He’s had some bad innings with inherited runners, but nothing else in his performance is bad. If you want to be careful with putting him in there with runners on, ok. But your assertion that an early good start is skewing his numbers is false.

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by t ball on Aug 19, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

ERA doesn't tell the story with him

Since most of the runs he gives up aren’t on his ledger. 56% of the runners on base when he enters a game will score (league average is 35%). That’s unacceptable from any pitcher who isn’t the mop up guy. That’s the 2nd worst on the team right behind Eyre. Only thing is that Jennings has inherited 27 runners this season while Eyre has inherited 3. That’s the second highest on the team behind O’Day with the 3rd most not being close.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Aug 19, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whatever

I don’t care for Jennings but I was just exposing the early season stuff he threw out there. Jennings has not been good but he’s not been so terrible either. Now that Guardado is gone I’d be fine with Jennings being dumped when Grilli is ready, I suppose.

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by t ball on Aug 19, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

ERA doesnt give the complete picture for relievers

It is a stat that does not completely reflect their their performance because they are not charged with the inherited runners. You cannot disregard that.

No stat is perfect but how about OPS+ off the top of my head.
Apr: 90
May: 60 !!
Jun: 119
Jul: 102
Aug: 230 !!

"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."

by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 19, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

BP’s WXRL (lineup-adjusted wins above replacement), Jennings is a tad under .4 wins added above replacement. He’s a little below average, basically.

Again, he’s been okay. Not great, but not terrible.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 19, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jennings had 1.6 WHIP in July

and a 2.65 WHIP thus far in August.

He’s been freaking terrible since all the positive changes were made.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 19, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Since all the positive changes were made on that glorious evening

the Rangers are 8-8 in games when Jennings pitches and 18-8 when he doesn’t.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 19, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now that you're on my side

I’ve got to drop out of this argument. I can’t be seen to be associating with you. Bad for my image.

"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."

by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 19, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's been godawful after the allstar break

If you’re going to wail away about Blalock (and deservedly so). Jennings deserves about the same treatment.

by LiamP on Aug 19, 2009 5:21 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Jennings has a 6.75 ERA in 11 IP since the ASB

That’s bad.

Blalock has been playing every day and has been much, much worse than that.

And Jennings pre-ASB was a hell of a lot better than Blalock pre-ASB.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 19, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hank v Jenning

Hank 1st half: 124 OPS+
Hank 2nd half: 44 (yipes!)

JJ 1st half: 88 OPS+
JJ 2nd half: 189 (yipes again!)

Seem pretty similar to me.

"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."

by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 19, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

11 innings

11. I’m not defending Jennings, but you don’t make that judgment on 11 innings for a relief pitcher. He’s not good, but it’s not because of 11 innings that I know that.

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by t ball on Aug 19, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why do you think he only has 11 innings in the 2nd half?

Wash doesn’t have a lot of confidence in him either. But he’ll keep running him out there because he’s a vet and “everyone has to play”.

"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."

by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 19, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Compare Eddie's and Jennings numbers.

Eddie has a better BB/9, BAA, and WHIP. But Jennings has a better ERA (he’s giving up other pitchers runs), better K/9 (a plus), and doesn’t give up the long ball as much (a big plus). Now remember that we’re comparing Jennings to Eddie and they are almost a wash. Ouch.

by AceJC on Aug 20, 2009 12:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

Cumulatively he has been avg this year. Right now, he sucks. He has the 8th most # pitches for a RP in the MLs. His arm is dead. Time to DL him.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Aug 19, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

How many players can be stashed on the DL in August

befre MLB calls “Bullshit!”?

"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."

by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 19, 2009 5:07 PM CDT reply actions  

6...

little known fact.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Aug 19, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

This would at least be a start...
Jones, who started one game at first in May, has taken ground balls at the position for much of the regular season, but he got a more intense full-scale workout on Wednesday. Manager Ron Washington acknowledged the possibility that 1B Hank Blalock could get an off day or two against left-handed pitching, but didn’t indicate he was contemplating a full-time platoon.


my better is better than your better.

by rangerjake on Aug 19, 2009 5:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Need to hurry now and get Crush back before Sept 1 so he'll be eligigle for the playoffs...

…and we ARE going to the playoffs.

Ephesians 3:20-21...and I can only imagine

by TedFord on Aug 19, 2009 5:14 PM CDT reply actions  

He'll be back at the end of the month

All we have to do is call him up on the 30th or 31st, option Mathis or whoever to OKC for a day then when the rosters expand bring them back up. Due to us having so many pitchers on the 60 day DL pretty much any pitcher on the 40 man roster is postseason eligible even if they aren’t on the August 31st roster

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 19, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

He’ll be back at the end of the month.

My only reservation is it’d be nice to have all hands on deck for Tampa.

But I can get on board with September. Let him get nice and used to his current habits. Numbers look gorgeous.

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Aug 19, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would too

But that would require either a short bullpen for a prolonged time or putting Hank or Jones on the DL

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 19, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Walks

His sudden ability to take a walk is the most encouraging sign to me. The fact that he took 2 walks as the team was getting no-hit was a great sign. The old CD would press and turn in a 4 or 5 K night. It looks like the new CD is willing to show some disciple at the plate. Me likey.

by Jack Nicholson 1974 on Aug 19, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Slightly OT, but related to the fact that JJ sucks in his current role

Does anyone know where to find the percentages on runs likely to score" for given situations? The ones like gamecast, etc show during the game (i.e. runners at 1st and 2nd, 1 out, 35.1% or somesuch)??

I’d like to try and recalculate some sort of “reliever ERA” where they actually get charged some sort of weighted runs allowed that accounts for inherited runners. I bet Jennnings ERA would go up 2 full runs easy.

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by bking on Aug 20, 2009 9:25 AM CDT reply actions  

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