Rangers offensive stats since the All Star Break
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 20, 2009 11:26 AM CDT
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| Name | AVG | OBP | SLG |
| Michael Young | .349 | .407 | .611 |
| Nelson Cruz | .311 | .404 | .600 |
| Ian Kinsler | .246 | .315 | .585 |
| Elvis Andrus | .312 | .381 | .473 |
| Marlon Byrd | .280 | .326 | .472 |
| Omar Vizquel | .333 | .356 | .404 |
| Josh Hamilton | .288 | .341 | .415 |
| Andruw Jones | .194 | .341 | .389 |
| David Murphy | .237 | .306 | .402 |
| Jarrod Saltalamacchia | .196 | .275 | .413 |
| Taylor Teagarden | .151 | .246 | .396 |
| Hank Blalock | .192 | .203 | .354 |
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When Teagarden is making you his bitch...
…it’s time to see about a job in coaching.
I have no objection to man walking on the moon.
For 2009, no doubt...
…and probably for 2010 and maybe 2011…
…but the day is coming…albatross day…or more appropriately the albatross era.
But for now, MY is outperforming my most optimistic expectations for him, at least at the plate.
I have no objection to man walking on the moon.
by Chad Crudup on Aug 20, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
I have wondered that myself. In years past he was pretty good at it.
I'm tired of hearing about team chemistry. You are telling me these fuckers wouldn’t like to have a teammate that could actually help the team win, instead of being down 2-4 spots.
by diamond_dave on Aug 20, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Evidence that "clutch" is random and not a skill?
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
by WestTxAg06 on Aug 20, 2009 1:25 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Why are you isolating it only after the AS Break?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
Because when I go to espn.com...
…it gives me the option to show the team’s stats on various groups of splits. One of them is Post-ASB.
If I wanted to go back to July 1 — the Magical Date that you celebrate as being Hank F.‘s date of blossoming — I’d have to go and try to calculate what each player has done over each stretch individually. It would take much, much longer.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 20, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Well considering your massive SBN salary...
…we should expect you to go that extra mile. :)
I have no objection to man walking on the moon.
by Chad Crudup on Aug 20, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm busy trying to destroy lives right now
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 20, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 10 recs
Yeah I've been meaning to tell you...
…quit spamming up my e-mail trying to convince me to get a divorce… I’m not even married!!!
I have no objection to man walking on the moon.
by Chad Crudup on Aug 20, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Elvis
I think this guy has more offensive potential than he has been given credit for. I remember zywica and myself making the point last season that his minor league line looks a lot like some MVP type shortstops.
I think the primary reason that age relative to league is something to look at in the minors is because it gives you a good idea which players have a chance to make ML debuts at a young age, and usually when you have a 20 year old with a successful debut and he also shows dramatic improvement within the season, you are looking at a really, really special player.
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
20 year olds that can do what Tiny E has done
have very good careers.
I’m thinking somewhere along the lines of him being 90% of what Robby Alomar became.
With that defense (which has been much better than advertised), that’s a pretty good player.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 20, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
that type production over a long career
is probably a HoF shortstop, and personally, I wouldn’t cap him at 90% of Alomar’s offense.
Comparing the rookie numbers of the two, both at 20 years old, the slash lines are eerily similar.
.266 / .328 / .382 for Alomar’s rookie season
.270 / .334 / .385 for Andrus thus far this season
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
I said 90%
only because I considered Alomar to be one of the very best offensive players of the 90’s and I like my optimism to be grounded in reality. I wouldn’t be surprised if he is as good as Alomar.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 20, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Im just really glad he started the season in the majors so we only have him for 6 years
Theres no way in hell I want to guarantee I have him when hes 26 years old
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
We needed to find out about him.
It was the right move. Kinsler, Josh, Nellie, Face et al will probably be gone by the time that window comes.
"When he came up with that ball, hop or not, he looked exactly like a homeless guy who had found a long cigarette butt – only to discover it was soaked with gasoline. He could not have thrown out anyone there, even though Cust moves at about the speed of soil erosion." - Ed C.
by inactive lsb user on Aug 20, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
We were 6-7 when Holland was brought up
Do you think we couldn’t have gone 6-7 with Omar Vizquel as our everyday SS? I don’t think there is anything you can learn in 13 games that you won’t find out about over the rest of the 150 games or so of the season.
Im not gonna dwell on it anymore but it was a dumb decision and hopefully we don’t make the same mistake with Smoak next year or anyone else down the road
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
It was a team decision
to not screw with a 20 year old player that you were already asking a lot from. There is nothing wrong with the decision and like I’ve said before, Elvis will not reach FA after only 6 years in the Majors.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
You know where I stand on that.
Just wanted to reiterate that I still think it is the right move, no matter how much Tiny E impresses the rest of the way.
It goes on a case by case basis, though. For instance, now that we know what we have in Tiny E (and how he significantly changes the dynamic of the team), we can begin to mold the rest of the roster into its final phase. I would definitely leave Smoak down next year for an extra year of control, but again, it’s a totally different situation.
"When he came up with that ball, hop or not, he looked exactly like a homeless guy who had found a long cigarette butt – only to discover it was soaked with gasoline. He could not have thrown out anyone there, even though Cust moves at about the speed of soil erosion." - Ed C.
by inactive lsb user on Aug 20, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
JD said at newberg night or some such
that he felt it was disingenuous and would send a bad message to the young players to tout a guy as ready and the future (by moving MY to 3rd) and then longoria him.
I agree that in pure baseball terms it makes sense — but sometimes you have to go beyond that to make a decision like that.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 20, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I wonder how bad he felt when we Longoriad Holland
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Well you didn't have to move your marquee player
who threw a temper tantrum to be able to do it.
I think the situations were much much different — you can see that right?
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 20, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah I absolutely see it
Which is why as much as I don’t like it I understand it. However I don’t see any players on the horizon we will need to do that with and hope we don’t screw up a fairly important aspect of roster management
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Only one I could see is
Smoak next year. He could tear up spring training or winter ball or whatever, but just wait a month or so and bring him up next year.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 20, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I think we'll sign a vet reclaimation project for that reason.
Sign a guy like Magglio Ordonez, try him out for a month or two, and then replace him with Smoak if it doesn’t work out.
Plus, Smoak needs to hit for power at AAA before we bring him up.
Oh god, not another veteran stopgap...
You know he would get 500 PA’s over the course of the year right? I mean, Ron will still be here right?
Did we Longoria Holland?
Or did we think he needed to start the season in the minors, but events led to him getting called up pretty quick?
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 20, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
What events?
I find it hard to imagine that literally a day or two after the “Longoria deadline” we brought him up. He had only one start above AA, one that wasn’t that great to begin with, had to be added to the 40 man roster, and was brought in to be a long man. I doubt 13 games into the season there could have been events that led to all that happen
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
The bullpen was looking horrible
The Rangers were starting off slow again which is something they couldn’t really afford to do for a 3rd year in a row. Holland was the most talented player they could call up at the time to help fortify the bullpen some so that’s what happened. It pretty much just fits the Rangers strategy over the past couple of seasons where they try filling the gaps internally with the best talent even if it means rushing the player a bit.
The whole concept behind “Longoria’ing” someone is that they are clearly ready to start the season in the Majors and fill an immediate need, but you keep them down until the deadline anyways to get that extra year. I don’t think the Rangers had any plans to call up Holland that soon, but with the struggles of the team and in particular, the bullpen, they needed to make something happen.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
he did nothing in ST to lose the job
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
I know
Which is why I wonder why he was handed the job to begin with. Because if he hadn’t been handed the job then you could say he didn’t win the job but since he was handed it he didn’t do anything to lose it.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Because you don't tell MY he is
moving to 3B unless you hand the job to Andrus.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
fellas, fellas, fellas...
The Elvis Andrus War of 2009 ended a long time ago. Let the healing begin.
EA war > HB war
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
I took it on the chin in the Tiny E War
but just about everybody else in here was sitting on the fence in that one because nobody thought he’d be this good.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
wow
this may be as close to seeing JW admit he is wrong as we’ll ever see.
and he still had to hedge it. “yeah, i may have been wrong, but you were all wrong as well, so….”
unreal.
no I was wrong... well excwept you
it would be crazy to expect this production from Elvis.
Wait a min, what did Jamey suggest for Elvis’ numbers again? I cant find it quickly atm.
" I have no faith in the GM making a move to help the big club but I’m on board."
Josey Wales on the 2009 Rangers. A team with 18 active players acquired by the current GM.
x
Q: If Andrus were to play 120 games in 2009, what sort of stats do you see him ending up with? – J.
A: In his first 494 big league at-bats (spanning two years), Jose Reyes hit .283/.307/.407 with 32 stolen bases. In his first 196 big league at-bats (spanning two years), Alex Rodriguez hit .224/.257/.352 with seven stolen bases. I’ll say Reyes’s on-base, A-Rod’s slug, and split the difference in batting average and steals.
http://www.newbergreport.com/article.asp?articleid=1245
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 20, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
That would give Jamey
a prediction of .253/.307/.352
vs Elvis’ actual so far: .270/.335/.385
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 20, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions
yay!
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 20, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
One difference
You were coupling the Elvis promotion with conspiracy theories and an irrational hatred of JD. Also, a fair number of us were smart enough to look past the error total, whereas you were convinced he’d be bad defensively as well.
I wanna say that Jamey
the all-time Ranger homer/cheerleader thought that Tiny E was going to commit close to 30 errors this year but get better as the season progressed.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"which has been much better than advertised"
His defense has always been very well regarded – my impression of him has been that he has been a gold glove caliber shortstop as long as he’s been in our system.
Go Rice Owls!
Would this be what your talking about?
Andrus was very unimpressive both in the field and at the plate (when the rest of the team was mashing) last week in Arizona.
He’s hitting somewhere around .260 with no power and has committed at least 3 errors.
Lots of hype, no bang.
" I have no faith in the GM making a move to help the big club but I’m on board."
Josey Wales on the 2009 Rangers. A team with 18 active players acquired by the current GM.
BAHAHAHAHA
You know, the post-season “Josey Was Wrong” quotefest is something I’m really excited about.
"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009
+1
I knew he had been hitting well since the break, but I really had no idea he was hitting this well.
over an .800 ops
Nice gap power.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
He is well ahead of The Wizard at this point in his career.
I'm tired of hearing about team chemistry. You are telling me these fuckers wouldn’t like to have a teammate that could actually help the team win, instead of being down 2-4 spots.
by diamond_dave on Aug 20, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
not even comparable
Andrus has a better OPS+ in his rookie season than Ozzie had in any of his first six seasons. Smith was 29 years old before he topped the 89 OPS+ (and climbing) that Andrus has posted this season.
In fact, in Ozzie’s 19 year career, he only bested Elvis rookie mark in OPS+ in less than half of the seasons he played.
Elvis is no Ozzie, he looks to have a much better bat.
Smith didn’t debut until he was 23, by the way.
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
That's what 33 games?
How did CDavis do in his last 33 games in The Show?
Bueller? Bueller? anybody, Bueller?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
Who cares?
Who even mentioned Chris Davis?
Why is it that every mention of the Rangers’ offensive struggles results in you beating the Chris Davis horse?
You and wufdog — I mean, Texas_Dawg — seem to be on the same page on that, if nothing else.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 20, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Troll Script
I realize that you can’t use it, but I sure do recommend it to others.
No longer do I see certain people saying things so stupid that I feel the obligation to respond. Everything’s a bit nicer now.
Used to think if I wanted to ignore someone, I could handle that all by myself. Sometimes I was able to do that, but not always. This thing by ab03 removes the posts and the eyerolling and temptation to reply that goes with them.
Big props.
by Black Francis on Aug 20, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I actually think Josey's bit on Blalock is lame, fwiw.
And obviously the CD troll was forced here. (When I post about Davis it is in response to people calling for him to be brought up.)
They have both had bad seasons… though Davis was significantly worse while he had his chance.
Blalock is obviously in a big slump. I wish we had a better option just as much as you do. In 2010 we almost certainly will. Unfortunately we don’t in 2009 though. :-(
Does it matter?
Hank has the WORST OBP OF ANY AL PLAYER WHO QUALIFIES FOR THE BATTING TITLE.
Do you not realize what a complete and utter dumbfuck it makes you look like to keep defending that?
It’s not about what Chris Davis has done. It’s about the fact Blalock is a goddamned out machine. Start Andruw Jones over him. Start a freaking tree stump over him. I don’t care. Just get Hank the hell out of there.
Officially gay for Neftali Feliz
A Tree Stump would probably have a better OBP
I don’t understand how he doesn’t get it, he needs to not swing at every ptich, is he that dumb?
by SanDiegoKev on Aug 20, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Trying to get a contract next year I suppose
His long ball will be his only asset.
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on Aug 20, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
he realizes it
but he put so many friggen chips in that basket, he can’t pull out…. thus, he insists on being a fucktard
Show me a decent replacement, Buckyb
and we only need one if he’s drowning and showing no signs of coming out it (like CDavis was) because his current performance is not dragging the team down.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 20, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Hank is CURRENTLY 3-27 with 7 K's. Davis was 4-28 with 11 K's right before he was sent down
How was CD dragging this team down and Hank is not. Your logic is flawed my friend.
Give me chemistry over stats any day. Do you think 34,000 fans were screaming their asses off over Pudges .275 OBP?
Since the positive changes were made (46 games)
Hank is 41 for 173 (.237) and second on the team in HR (9) and RBI (26).
If you look at CDavis from May 16 to July 5 (42 games) you will see that he went 23 for 137 (.168) with 5 HR & 12 RBI.
I’d have no problems sitting Hank down if there was an adequate replacement but we don’t have one.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
Davis also had 61Ks during that time and looked totally helpless at the plate.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
And Hank doesn't?
Lowest OBP of any everyday player in the AL this year. That’s pretty damned helpless.
Officially gay for Neftali Feliz
I don't understand
why Josey wants to keep comparing a veteran with 7+ years in the MLs to a player with ~1 yr of service. The expectations are different.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
Call me crazy
but planned for or not, this team is playing meaningful games and has a chance for the post-season so I’m not as worried about developing players as I am taking advantage of the situation.
I’ll be cheering very loudly for CD next season.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
ha ha ha
I think crazy is way down on the list of name syou have been called. :)
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
It is what those in the poker world...
…calling being “pot committed.”
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 20, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
He needs to be committed alright.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Aug 20, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
sunk costs
He desperately needs to cut his losses.
"Was this really necsarry?" - cowpoke/hurler hurley
Agreed that I have a lot of chips in that basket
but my premise was that CDavis being shoehorned into the line-up every day while Hank F was getting dicked around by the FO (that the vets hate) and it was hurting the chemistry of the team.
I was right.
The argument can be made that everybody who continues to bash Hank F have just as many chips in this argument.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 20, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
"by the FO (that the vets hate)"
Link, please. Put up or shut up. I’m sick of you throwing things out there with nothing to back it up. Put up or shut up.
"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009
Really?
We still haven’t seen any proof that:
A. The vets hate JD
B. Davis playing everyday was hurting team chemistry
C. Hank playing more is helping team chemistry
If you’ve got something concrete, instead of your own opinions, we’re all still waiting to hear them.
And the argument can also be made that everyone who continues to “bash Hank” is working with a functioning logic center in their brains.
Officially gay for Neftali Feliz
It was effective team chemistry so bad they were in 1'st place with CD
I'm tired of hearing about team chemistry. You are telling me these fuckers wouldn’t like to have a teammate that could actually help the team win, instead of being down 2-4 spots.
by diamond_dave on Aug 20, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
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Hank has the WORST OBP OF ANY AL PLAYER WHO QUALIFIES FOR THE BATTING TITLE.
Do you not realize what a complete and utter dumbfuck it makes you look like to keep defending that?
It’s not about what Chris Davis has done. It’s about the fact Blalock is a goddamned out machine. Start Andruw Jones over him.
Agreed.
I see a 20 for 105 (.191)
with 46 K’s and 3 HR / 10 RBI in CDavis last 33 games in The Show.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
Wow
So Hank’s batting a whole .001 better! That’s awesome! Give him a fucking cookie!
Officially gay for Neftali Feliz
He also took seven walks
compare to Hanks 2
If you want some slack, bring your own rope.
by rangerfaninva on Aug 20, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
That's why he was sent down, no?
That was a while back – we’ve seen all Hank has to offer when he gets extended playing time. CD has shown he can do it, gotta give the young guy a shot.
I doubt we will be able to...
…I have a feeling someone will offer him a better chance to be an everyday player than we can. Probably a little more money too.
I have no objection to man walking on the moon.
by Chad Crudup on Aug 20, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
What? you are joking right?
a 43 year old every day SS?
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 20, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep
I think Omar did himself a great service by accepting a part time role this year. He looks like he could have at least a couple more years in him if he continues as a utility player.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
damnit it all to hell
We have a 20 year old, GG-caliber shortstop putting up a .312 / .381 / .473 line in a decent sized sample and all everybody wants to do is bullshit with Josey on his same tired ole limp dick arguments that we’ve read a thousand times in the last month.
Can’t we carry on a relevant discussion about the Rangers without Josey dictating the same old shit and everybody just lapping it up? Christ sakes it’s getting on my nerves.
Just like at the NMLR, it isn’t really Josey that ruins everything, it’s everybody’s reaction to him that does.
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
by tricer on Aug 20, 2009 11:42 AM CDT reply actions 14 recs
Well said
I have no objection to man walking on the moon.
by Chad Crudup on Aug 20, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Only way to stop that would be to ban him.
Which Adam refuses to do, I think partly because he seems to enjoy arguing with him.
If it where up to me, I’d at least strip the asshole of his ability to use his infamous moniker.
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.
Only way to stop that would be to ban him.
I can think of another way to get around it.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Aug 20, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Worst part is
I swear there are a bunch of folks who came over from NMLR just so they could keep up the same lame arguments. You didn’t see a lot of those NMLR names post much until after Josey moved over here.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
Yep, truly saddening.
"When he came up with that ball, hop or not, he looked exactly like a homeless guy who had found a long cigarette butt – only to discover it was soaked with gasoline. He could not have thrown out anyone there, even though Cust moves at about the speed of soil erosion." - Ed C.
by inactive lsb user on Aug 20, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Newberg Minor League Report
I believe.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
People refuse to just ignore him. It's very frustrating.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
especially since it dominates the entire thread
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Just like at the NMLR, it isn’t really Josey that ruins everything, it’s everybody’s reaction to him that does.
yeah, i don’t get the infatuation with him and why the same group of people keep stroking his ego…
usa
Josey
Speaking as one of those who responds WAY too much to him-
He pushes a number of my buttons. I really don’t like people who speak/write in a condescending manner, refuse to admit their own mistakes while insisting their opinions are Gospel, and who attempt to play Internet Tough Guy while hiding behind a wall of anonymity.
I may have some strong opinions, but I don’t hide them behind a psuedonym, and if I’m wrong, I admit it, rather than running convoluted circles around the subject to avoid saying that I screwed up.
His act’s long since tired, and I really should stop responding to it, but unfortunately, I like to argue far too much for my own good sometimes.
Officially gay for Neftali Feliz
What's funny about the Blalock / Davis issue is that
it is me who takes all crap for it yet JD, the darling GM who could that gave you 90 minutes of his precious time at Newberg Night, is in apparent lockstep with how I think. It’s that or he’s afraid to rock the clubhouse and if that’s the case, he’s not a very good GM.
Why doesn’t everybody criticize their favorite GM on this issue?
What’s also true is that if I didn’t show up to face the LSB music when things were going downhill for Hank F, I’d have buckets of smack thrown my way as well.
As bad as August has been, I’m still optimistic on Hank F and believe he’s the much better option to help us win meaningful games down the stretch.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
You need to get off your own nuts
Why doesn’t everybody criticize their favorite GM on this issue?
The incessant bitching around here IS a criticism of how the team is being run. That’s pretty obvious actually
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 20, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Still waiting for that proof that the vets hate the FO, champ.
"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009
How do you figure JD is in lockstep with you?
Because he won’t waive Hank?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
If JD's thought processes are in lockstep with yours
Then you must be one dumb SOB.
Because that’s how you rate JD’s intelligence.
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
For all the bashing that Face takes in general, and on D, myself included.
The guy has just raked this year. Sitting on a .900 OPS for the year and got the sock back in his bat.
He also deserves marks for being consistent throughout the entire year (Hey, Ian!).
The only down month he had was during the June Swoon, when he wasn’t awful (.760 OPS). Mad props to MY for stabilizing the lineup.
"When he came up with that ball, hop or not, he looked exactly like a homeless guy who had found a long cigarette butt – only to discover it was soaked with gasoline. He could not have thrown out anyone there, even though Cust moves at about the speed of soil erosion." - Ed C.
by inactive lsb user on Aug 20, 2009 11:46 AM CDT reply actions
Face is a very solid
MVP candidate this season if he finishes strong and the Rangers make the playoffs.
Is Crede the de facto GG winner at 3B this year?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 20, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Longoria.
Way to not lurk and instead shit all over yourself during your first fanshot.
-FirebatM3 to Ryan2907. 6/3/09.
by SarasotaRanger on Aug 20, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
True that
he may win several in a row.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 20, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree Longoria is awesome
but the vote should be at least close. Both have been epically good at 3rd this yr
08/03/2009 A day that will live in infamy for the rest of the AL West.
by Michael Cave on Aug 20, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Depending on what Youkilis qualifies as
Young could earn himself a silver slugger for 3B.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Get well (and start hitting the ball) soon Nellie.
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
I swear it seems like he's been gone for 2 months.
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on Aug 20, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Josh with at 288 avg and climbing fast
its nice to see him get his stroke back.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
hopefully the power comes back too
Great to see him crank out the base hits lately, but it has been wierd seeing him get good pitches to hit, then center them, and watch them die at the warning track.
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
Josh has been much better
but it sure seems like he’s had quite a few bleeders, infield hits and Texas Leaguers this month.
I’m anxious to see the consistent power return.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 20, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
I think you almost need to treat
him like a prospect for the rest of the yr. Be happy with any hits and confidence boosting events. The power will come but last most likely.
08/03/2009 A day that will live in infamy for the rest of the AL West.
by Michael Cave on Aug 20, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you keep hitting Josh 3rd?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 20, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
He sure looked alot better in the 5 hole
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I would like to see
Kinsler 3rd and Josh bat 4th followed by Nellie. Of course I am sure the gut disagrees.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
I wouldn't mind a Kins/Nellie/Hammy/Byrd 3-6
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I agree.
Byrd could be a monster hitting in the six hole.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
I like the
R-L-R I proposed.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
Me too.
Borbon
Young
Kinsler
Hamilton
Cruz
Smoak
DH
Salty Tea
Andrus
FTW
by GhettoBear04 on Aug 20, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
replace smoak with davis for this year
and I’m in. I don’t think Smoak should get called up this year.
call him up a month into next season. I like not having to have Smoak on the 40-man this offseason, so you can protect an extra player from the rule 5 draft.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Right.
I was talking about next year. That’s why I wrote DH. I’m hoping they fill that externally.
by GhettoBear04 on Aug 20, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Forward that to Wash, please.
I'm tired of hearing about team chemistry. You are telling me these fuckers wouldn’t like to have a teammate that could actually help the team win, instead of being down 2-4 spots.
by diamond_dave on Aug 20, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep.
His surgery really sapped his power stroke, because all he was doing before his second DL trip was hit for power.
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.
Yep
I don’t know if it’s at all connected, but anything that idles your midsection or otherwise weakens it, takes core power away. It doesn’t come back quickly, either.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Aug 20, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Last night
I couldn’t help but compare Pudge’s body type now to when he was originally with us and find a correlation to Josh. It seems they both have lost a lot of weight. I was sure that last fly ball Josh hit was out and really think it would have been last year. I don’t know if his power might not have peaked last year. I’m not saying he won’t hit 30 homers again but he’s got the same swing through the zone and the ball just isn’t traveling as far.
by corbsclinton on Aug 20, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree
I think some of it may also be he is pulling back 10% of his power to increase his contact by 25%. Kind of like adjusting your video game players attributes. I like it and will take it.
Give me chemistry over stats any day. Do you think 34,000 fans were screaming their asses off over Pudges .275 OBP?
I know a certain Texas Rangers catcher hitting .750...
/not sure the sample size is big enough
"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009
I know another one hitting .500
I'm tired of hearing about team chemistry. You are telling me these fuckers wouldn’t like to have a teammate that could actually help the team win, instead of being down 2-4 spots.
by diamond_dave on Aug 20, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
For me, the catchers on this team for this year and next should be
Pudge and Salty, and until Salty is ready pudge should get at least 4 starts a week
Larry Parrish Was Da Man!
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Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
Good grief
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
We'll show you Obama's birth certificate as soon as you show us Sarah Palin's high school diploma...
by Brian Thomas on Aug 20, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
What's worse is we actually believed they would.
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.
yep
I was very excited about Salty coming into the season with how he finished last year, and his Dominican Winter League play. I still have hope though, he is still very young, but if he doesn’t have a breakout year next year, he will pretty much be what he is right now.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Goldstein at Newberg Night has helped keep me believing
He was saying that if Texas wanted to trade Salty, they would still be able to get quite a bit for him. Catchers come on slow and with Salty clearly concentrating on defense this past year, he likely let his bat suffer as a result. Lets see where this injury takes him, but he could come back with a strong season next year or maybe it will take a bit longer. No reason to give up on a 24 year old catcher who has hit as well as he has in the minors with great reports to go with it.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
think of the trade value those 2 had last offseason
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
Think of the trade value of...
…Holland, Feliz, Smoak, Perez, Hunter, Andrus this year compared to last year.
Actually, don’t. Just enjoy it. =)
by GhettoBear04 on Aug 20, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
In fairness, since being put in the starter's role ...
Tea has hit decently. His August line is .182/.308/.485. The average is still low, but he’s been getting on base and hitting for power. Since it looks like he’ll get the lion’s share of playing time the rest of the way, it’s probably not fair to judge him until the end of the season.
In what universe is .182 decent?
I'm tired of hearing about team chemistry. You are telling me these fuckers wouldn’t like to have a teammate that could actually help the team win, instead of being down 2-4 spots.
by diamond_dave on Aug 20, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions
783 OPS from a catcher is very respectable
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
We'll show you Obama's birth certificate as soon as you show us Sarah Palin's high school diploma...
by Brian Thomas on Aug 20, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
793
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
We'll show you Obama's birth certificate as soon as you show us Sarah Palin's high school diploma...
by Brian Thomas on Aug 20, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
In the one where the hitter is drawing walks at a good clip and still hitting for power. It’s not great, by any stretch of the imagination, but given his walk and power numbers, it’s not disastrous either.
Wasn't the book on him "low bp, but makes up for it with pop"?
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Yep
The problem is that the walks aren’t likely going to continue being that high if he keeps hitting below .200.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Its not like we're talking about Pujols or A-Rod power here
He has some big hits, but you’re still talking about a .485 SLG in his best month of the season with a season ISO of .171. For a catcher, that’s not bad, but pitchers won’t approach him differently just because he’s doing fine for a catcher.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Elvis is effin' amazing
A 20-yr. old has jumped from AA to full time play at a premium position and played GG caliber defense while improving his walk rate, K rate, slugging percentage, and has been one of the team’s best players during a playoff race. According to fangraphs valuation, he has already been worth over $11M this season, and is on pace to be a 3 win player. Damn.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
That's what happens
When both Josey and Miles reverse-jinx you.
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.
I really like watching
his at-bats. Although that strike 3 versus Nathan last night was ugly there seems to be no rookie jitters. All calm and collected like it is just another at-bat every time he goes to the plate. He is looking more and more like an established veteran. Nothing short of amazing. Even when his inevitable slump comes, the guy will still be able to take a walk…
by corbsclinton on Aug 20, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, Nathan makes a lot of guys look bad
No real shame in that
by Sherman McCoy on Aug 20, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
no shit
Gawd that guy has a presence on the mound. He just looks like a baller and that slider moves 10 to 6 in ahurry
by corbsclinton on Aug 20, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
He hung that pitch to AJ (looked like a game-tying bomb).
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 20, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
After he had struck out, but got the lucky call.
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on Aug 20, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
AJ struckout 3 times in that AB
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
except the Angels
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
I think when it comes time to resign him in 5-6 years we should take that into account.
We’re saving tons of cash right now with him.
Give me chemistry over stats any day. Do you think 34,000 fans were screaming their asses off over Pudges .275 OBP?
Yeah...
I could see the Rangers trying to sign him to a Kinsler/Longoria/etc type extension this offseason.
by GhettoBear04 on Aug 20, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
"We're saving tons of cash on him right now"...
this isn’t the way to think when signing a player when they become a FA.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Rangers sign
6’4’’, 180 lbs Dominican righty David Perez for $425k, per MLBTR per ESPN.com’s Jorge Arangure Jr. via Twitter.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Durret brought something up...
..over at the DMN Rangers blog that is a thought that I’ve had running around for the past few days: It seems like the Rangers are tired. Specifically their pitchers. Guys like Feldman, Millwood and even Hunter his last time out haven’t had their best stuff. Sure it could be coincidence that they’re all having a bad start or two at the same time, but I really am starting to wonder.
I guess another possibility is that they are coming back to earth a little bit after their run over the last 2 months. Still, I wish they had a day off today instead of this 4th game against the Twins.
I think they are tired.
They have an off day on Monday so they get an extra days rest when they face the MFNYY and the Twins next week.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
Hunter looks tired when he's throwing his warm up pitches before the 1st inning.
Give me chemistry over stats any day. Do you think 34,000 fans were screaming their asses off over Pudges .275 OBP?
I know on this homestand they have been consistantly up in the strike zone.
I'm tired of hearing about team chemistry. You are telling me these fuckers wouldn’t like to have a teammate that could actually help the team win, instead of being down 2-4 spots.
by diamond_dave on Aug 20, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
i think he means the guy at the end of the list
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
sure...
but oc’s point holds. Millwood is long overdue for a DL stint. A real one, though, not Guardado style.
A few thoughts...
I think the pitching the last few games is to be expected. These guys have been lights out all year long theyre bound to have a few consecutive bad outings. Hopefully they’ll return to form soon.
My fear is that this team has no in-game resilience. Sure they have bounced back game to game from bad losses. but where are the late game comebacks? I dont get to watch alot of the games but I cant remember a walk off since the 2 in Seattle a couple months back. And cant even remember an 8th or 9th comeback.
Bottom line is if we cant ever come back from a one run deficit after the 7th we are in big trouble.
I agree with this
our offense has gotten the lead recently and shut down. It’s not like we were facing shutdown bullpen arms.
I have a feeling that O’day may be in for a bad final month and a half. I hope I’m wrong, but he has pitched alot at such a high level, I would expect his ERA to steadily rise until the end of the season. We need our offense back on track
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
O'Day
Seems like trick delivery guys often have a pretty short shelf life, and I’ve been fearing that we’d see a collapse. I wish the bullpen was strong enough that Wash could use him strictly against a righty or two, strictly as a specialist, instead of having him come in for an inning or more as a setup type.
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
Yeah, I think it would be foolish
to count on O’Day always being this good.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
Good point on the trick delivery guys..
I would be helpful if we could slide him into more of a confined role instead of his current usage. Too bad our current bullpen with two dead slots makes that difficult to do on a consistent basis.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
I really wish
Jennings and Guardado a fond farewell….if only.
O’Day also, for a sidearm pitcher does not seem to get alot of groundballs, which could definitely pose a problem.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I've been worried that O'Day is just being overused
He’s thrown 44 innings this year and has been relied to pitch on back-back days a lot. He really hasn’t been able to have a couple of days or more off recently. I think when Grilli comes back up, that its going to be a pretty big boost for the pen with Wash having another strikeout guy to go to. If Wash had some more faith in Moscoso, that could be a pretty big boost too.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
This is better
More like this (sans Blalock).
Elvis. Elvis.
"Was this really necsarry?" - cowpoke/hurler hurley
he's amazing. ridiculously amazing
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I love MIchael Johnson's quote
“The person who could break his records has not been born yet.”
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
did you see that story about the S African runner that came out of nowhere and is setting records
She looks a lot like a dude and they are doing sophisticated gender tests that involve DNA and take weeks to get the results. Isn’t there a simpler way to tell?
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
replying to self after reading my own link
Well, I guess the idea I had for checking the gender might not always work. According to the article:
there are cases of people who have ambiguous genitalia
Ambiguous genitalia? That would REALLY suck.
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
The rules on gender in track and field are based on body chemistry, not equipment...
She could have been transgendered, but if the body chemistry shows that she has the strength and stamina of a man due to “lingering” body chemistry, then she’s a dude.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
No way in hell would I trade my mediocre life for a stack of gold medals and world records
if it cost me my junk. I guess others may see that equation differently.
But damn!
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
you know what pisses me off
(small rant)
is that the Angels are winning with what the Rangers have never been able to, pretty avg to lousy pitching alot of times, and a really great offense. Granted the Angels, obviously showed alot of depth in their pitching to be able to survive the first couple months, but this really pisses me off. Defense, also may play a part but i am still pisses off. they don’t freakin’ lose!
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I agree
and to go back to my earlier point, those assholes come back from 3 4 5 runs down on a daily basis like ther is no tomorrow. I can’t count how many times I’ve looked at the scoreboard, and breathed a sigh of relief when I see them down by 4, only to see them come back and win it.
If only we could put up timely runs like that.
The Rangers are currently on pace to win 91 games.
For the sake of some perspective on that here is where that stands among the nearly 4 decades of Rangers seasons (’09 projection in red).
And Ron Washington is nearly universally condemned here for the job he’s done this year? Um, yeah… that’s rational.
nah
Ron Washington is nearly universally condemned
I don’t think so. Mainly just his bullpen management and his lineups.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
and that leaves WHAT exactly??
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
How hard he gets his players to play for him, mainly.
The days that don’t involve Eddie and sometimes Jennings, he’s actually done a decent job of bullpen management. Sure, the Holland jerking around kinda sucked, but that wasn’t completely under his control. I s’pose you could blame overusing Frankie on him, but those games seemed critical at the time.
Also, his ability to handle the media when a lot of them were calling for him to be fired last year. The way he’s allowed for the development of younger players. The confidence he shows in his players when everyone around here is knee jerking.
In short, while we criticize some of the things he does, realistically not many managers are going to manage the way we want them to (to ignore saves, just develop young players, etc). When compared to what else is out there, it could certainly be worse.
by GhettoBear04 on Aug 20, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
giving Worsh props
Even though Marlon Byrd is vilified around here, Wash seems to have really gotten the most out of him the last couple years. He’s a pretty been pretty valuable for us and was a scrap heap pickup when we got him.
And twenty years from now, I will still remember the way Wash jerked CJ back up on the mound after the ball-flip incident. That may be a top five managerial moment that I’ve ever witnessed, right up there with Valentine’s fake glasses and mustache.
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
By universal condemnation I mean that basically no one here ever
applauds the job he has done this year at all… while the posts about how bad he is, questioning his intelligence, etc, etc… are endless… and get very little objection from anyone here.
A fonking pre-game line-up can’t even be posted here without 10 people saying what an idiot he is for it.
He used to get a lot of defense, but it IS pretty tiring to do...
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
MY has shown he should be the number 3 hitter
The # 3should be your best hitter, so it goes. I’d love to have #1 and #2 to platoon like so:
v. RHP _ v. LHP
Borbon _ Kinsler
Murphy _ Elvis
Young _ Young
Hamilton _ Cruz
Kinsler _ Hamilton
Cruz _ Byrd
Davis _ Blalock
Teagarden _ Jones
Elvis _ Teagarden
That’s just what I would love to watch the rest of the season, but, alas, won’t happen
He doesn't like the No. 3 spot.
And I’m inclined, at this point, to not mess with a good thing.
by GhettoBear04 on Aug 20, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
and his batting average with RISP
is not good this year (.223)
If you want some slack, bring your own rope.
by rangerfaninva on Aug 20, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Meh.
That’s really more variance than something I’d base a lineup decision on moving forward.
by GhettoBear04 on Aug 20, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
One other exception
Cruz has reverse splits (low numbers vs. LHP). He should bat in front of Hamilton and Kinsler against RHP, and the 6 hole vs. LHP.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Aug 20, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I got screamed at
by dirkatron or somesuch for saying Cruz can’t hit LH pitching nearly as well as he hits RH pitching.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
Doesn't EVERYONE get srceamed at by dirkatron??
I pretty much see him as the loud street preacher that you don’t really want to make eye contact with.
Just sayin…
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
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