Monday a.m. Rangers things
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 24, 2009 9:39 AM CDT
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PrintAnthony Andro writes that Scott Feldman has become the Rangers' road warrior, winning his fifth straight road start yesterday, and doing it with a career-high 11 strikeouts, the most by a Ranger starter since Matt Perisho struck out 12 in a meaningless game at the end of the 1999 season.
Evan Grant says that the key to Feldman's recent trend of missing more bats is changing speeds and mixing in his curve more.
As discussed last night, Chris Davis is being called up for the series in New York, and Ron Washington says he'll be the team's first baseman, with Hank Blalock moving into his old role as a part-time DH and backup first baseman.
And Michael Young is on track to have a 200 hit season again, after falling short last year.
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Feldman and Hunter at the back end of the rotation next year.
Milly
Holland
Feliz
Feldman
Hunter
Sheets would be a bonus if he were to sign giving Feliz a little more time in AAA if he even needs it.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
That rotation has potential!
I'm tired of hearing about team chemistry. You are telling me these fuckers wouldn’t like to have a teammate that could actually help the team win, instead of being down 2-4 spots.
by diamond_dave on Aug 24, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Yep...
that back end of the rotation looks strong.
I start Feliz in AAA next season whether the Rangers get Sheets or not. If they don’t sign Sheets then you have the grab bag of McCarthy, Harrison, Nippert, FA vet. Call up Feliz around June, I think he could use more time in OKC as a starter. Also try and limit his innings a little there at the start of the season.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Feliz makes the team
out of ST next year. Period.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
Man
I hope so. He’s made 8 (I think) appearances, and I already have a ton of confidence in him.
"We mean what we say and we say what we mean." -The Purke Family
by TagDon'tTweet on Aug 24, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions
This Thing is on a roll right now but...
…is he really ready for The Show next year?
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
Don't see why not
I know we’re talking about a different role, but it’s not like The Show is giving him much trouble right now.
Officially gay for Neftali Feliz
He will drown
And the vets will hate the FO more than they already do.
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
why?
we dont know what issue had at all
obviously it was more than the benoit issue (hes already throwing) meanwhile hurley has turned into sidd finch…
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Taking steroids is only gonna make him whiff on those sliders in the dirt with more fury." -thedirkatron
by knockoutking on Aug 24, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Its been said what Hurley had before
You just keep choosing to ignore it
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
if the organization has straight up said what it is, then show me the link
originally it was said it was just rotator cuff, then they went in and found it was a labrum problem
the question is how serious his labrum issues were, and depending on how serious they were depends on how much we should expect coming back
is a labrum as big of a deal as it was 5-10 years ago? no
is it still a pretty big deal? yes
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Taking steroids is only gonna make him whiff on those sliders in the dirt with more fury." -thedirkatron
by knockoutking on Aug 24, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
go look at the cpp threads
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
I doubt Feliz would step into the 3 spot
And even Holland in the 2 spot is dicey. Id go
Millwood
Feldman
Holland
Hunter
Feliz
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I might flip
Holland and Feldman just due to the R-L-R advantage. However minor it may be.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
That looks more likely
early on, and it looks damn solid. I think we might see Feliz start the year in OKC, with Nipps or McCarthy holding the last spot for a brief time.
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Yeah thats what I expect
Not only to stretch him out but work on a few minor things like his windup which he hasn’t pitched out of yet in the bigs. If I had to guess right now i would think Nippert starts as the 5th guy with BMac, Harrison, Feliz, Poveda and Kiker in OKC
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
He shouldn't be
He won’t use one this year and has one left according to Scott Lucas’ site
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
The Rangers might have a bullpen
full of pitchers with no options next year. :(
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
Not really
ODay has options left
CJ has options left
Eyre still has options left
Mad Dog has options left
Mathis has options left
Moscoso has options left
If we use harrison or kiker as a LOOGY or even AJ Murray they all have options left
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I would not be at all surprised, though
if Feliz starts right out of the gate. The team could make a trade over the offseason that jettisons one of Harrison, Nippert, BMac into the bullpen…
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our surplus
is a little bizarre. Nippert, McCarthy and Harrison are all solid back end options who most teams would love to plug in at 4 or 5 in their rotation. I like the rotation you listed, but i think the team will go into camp with an open mind and everyone except Millwood and Feldman will be in an open competition for a rotation spot.
Depth…FTW!
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
It's a little scary
(but in a good way) to have so much depth that we forget about Harrison.
"We mean what we say and we say what we mean." -The Purke Family
by TagDon'tTweet on Aug 24, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Anyone think they should try him as a LOOGY next year?
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Aug 24, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Think I'd prefer Harrison to Hunter
I’d prefer two lefties in the rotation.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Aug 24, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Hunter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Harrison
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
True dat.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Aug 24, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Might be...
but I’m glad Hunter’s got the rest of the year to audition.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Aug 24, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd like to see...
two lefties in the rotation too.
However when one guy has performed so much better than the other this year you have to go with the better pitcher. Right now that clearly is Hunter.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
I think Hunter has something in his make-up that Harrison nor Mccarthy has
I'm tired of hearing about team chemistry. You are telling me these fuckers wouldn’t like to have a teammate that could actually help the team win, instead of being down 2-4 spots.
by diamond_dave on Aug 24, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Those other boys need to learn judo
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
or how to eat an entire cow in one sitting
heh
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Taking steroids is only gonna make him whiff on those sliders in the dirt with more fury." -thedirkatron
by knockoutking on Aug 24, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought about Hurley, but
he’s not going to simply return and jump right in there. I don’t consider him an option until he’s had some time in OKC to get his legs under him.
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Holland won't be in any competition for a spot.
I'm tired of hearing about team chemistry. You are telling me these fuckers wouldn’t like to have a teammate that could actually help the team win, instead of being down 2-4 spots.
by diamond_dave on Aug 24, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions
maybe
i think that depends on how he finishes the year. If he continues on this trend that we’ve scene since the trade deadline game, then he’s probably safe, but if he throws a few more 4 inning, four run clunkers in there, I don’t think he should have any more guarantees than a guy like Harrison, who has had strong major league runs of his own.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
I would add Holland to that list
I don’t see any way, barring injury, he starts next year in the minors. But yes our back end depth is something alot of teams would kill for. Hunter, Nippert, BMac, Harrison, Moscoso, Poveda, Kiker, and to a lesser degree Mathis and Mendoza
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Its kind of funny
that the name of Hurley hasnt even been mentioned yet. Not sure what his role will be next year. Just saying that we have such depth that a Hurley is not even thought about. Whatever we get out of him next year is just gravy
I wouldn't be suprised to see him start out in Frisco
Be closer to Arlington and the team docs plus as noted unless we trade some guys away our AAA rotation is pretty loaded from the get go.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Hurley
how many options does he have left?
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
All three
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
so this year counts as a year of service time
but not an option?
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
I don't think they ever sent him down, so yeah
He started the season on the DL and has been there since IIRC
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
I thought he was optioned last season
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 24, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't think so
His contract was purchased when he came up and he stayed up until he got injured. Thats what i recall at least. Lucas’ site has him with 3 options still.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Feliz
Anybody think the Rangers might be pondering starting him a few times this season?
The Rangers have a DH on Sep 1st. Supposedly McCarthy is gearing up for the spot start there, but he hasn’t been exactly consistent so far in his rehab. Wonder if the Rangers are thinking about stretching Feliz out with some 3.0 inning stints [Sat he went 2.2 IP] out of the pen so that he would be an option there – or even an option if Nippert craters over his next two starts and they need a 5th starter.
What do you mean he hasn't been consistent?
I think besides his first one he has been pretty good
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I could see them trying to sneak in a Feliz start or at least give him some longer outings from here on out
I think they want to get his innings up a bit while still having him pitch out of the bullpen so we could see more outings where he is going into his 3rd inning and maybe 4th if something happens to the starter early on.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Feliz
The most I think we see him do is as a long man out of the pen if hes had a couple days rest and a starter gets lit up early.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I think it would take quite a bit to stretch him out
I guess right now he is conditioned for about 40 pitch outings. Maddux has said that he believes that can be adjusted by about 20 pitches per outing, and I’m sure they would be more conservative with Feliz than anyone else. So, I guess he would get a couple 40 pitch outings with at least 3 days rest in between, then roughly 60 pitch outing with regular starter rest, then maybe they could start him with an 80 pitch max, but that would take at least 2 weeks to get to that number, and it would severely limit how Worsh could manage his pen in the mean time.
My guess is that he just stays in his current role for the rest of the season.
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
I guess my take on this is sort of
like sacrificing virgins to appease the gods, since I’m no pitching expert. But from everything I’ve ever read and heard, it is a much bigger deal than some seem to suggest to shift a guy between pitching for 80-100 pitches once every five days and 20 or so every other day. And with such a young, valuable arm, I just don’t want to push it by adding whatever additional kind of stress I can think of. I think it would need to be a gradual process, and I don’t know if they have the kind of time necessary to do it correctly.
Also, the pitch limit on him is strict enough that I’m not sure that he would be as much of an asset right now. He’d go 4-5 innings, and they’d have to use the yahoos to get through those tough innings anyway. That or increase his pitch limit, which would be really bad, all things above considered.
by Brett Perryman on Aug 24, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Isn't that pretty much what they did with Holland earlier in the year?
I don’t think it’s likely to happen, but I think the team has shown they are willing to move a guy back and forth like that.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 24, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Z was a fairly outspoken critic of the way they did that with Holland
And I agree. These two guys are the most precious commodity that has come thru this system in maybe forever. Why not err on the side of caution? And like he said, at this point the marginal gain by shifting him into a SP role is pretty minimal when you consider the games that Feliz wouldn’t be available out of the pen as he’s being stretched out.
And remember that Feliz was shut down for a brief period earlier this season with a sore shoulder.
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
It seems like they wanted to treat Holland that way though
It wasn’t like they were just switching back and forth as the need arrived, but that it was their way of managing his innings and pitch count on the year
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
It wasn’t like they were just switching back and forth as the need arrived
I think that’s exactly what dictated it, and in fact Nolan Ryan has said as much. They obviously weren’t going to do something that was really bad for Holland just to fill holes, but need and the way he pitched dictated his role.
Also, Ryan has said that even when they used him in the pen, they spaced his outings out to every fourth day, so it wasn’t as hard for him to convert back and forth. And that is a good idea, but he isn’t being completely accurate when he says this. Check out his game log, and you’ll see a couple of one day rests, etc.
by Brett Perryman on Aug 24, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Well JD's said that the goal with Holland was to limit his innings this season, but
not have him go through a stretch of time where he wasn’t pitching. If that’s the case, the choices are to use him as a starter the whole way and limit how many innings/pitches he could throw down the stretch, keep him in the bullpen for a longer period of time and delay his start in the rotation, or to mix and match and let him pitch some out of the bullpen and out of the rotation.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
In addition to what tricer says above
There is also a difference between the two in terms of pitch limits. If you look at Feliz’s starts, they were not willing to let him go, say, over 100 pitches like they are Holland. They have been more careful with his pitch counts, and rightfully so. That makes him less of a viable option this season in the rotation than Holland. Next year, at least at some point, I think he’s viable for sure.
by Brett Perryman on Aug 24, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
So you don't think the Rangers stay in the WC hunt?
As long as they are contending for a playoff spot, he has more value coming out of the bullpen in a fireman type of role.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
i hope not
but not for Feliz’s sake, rather for the team’s sake. If we start feliz for some random double header, that probably takes him out of at least two other games he could have pitched in relief. at this point, I’d rather have him in our bullpen as a guy who can utterly shut down the opponent for two innings. long term thats not the case, but for now it is.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
MY is on track...
for more than just 200 hits. He’s having his best season in the bigs offensively after moving to a new position. I know this may sound odd, but is he back to being underrated again? I know many casual Rangers fans have always loved the guy, but what about the diehard knowledgable Rangers fans who saw him as the 5th or 6th best offensive player on the team? As Andro says, it’s not like he will have 200 hits and 160 singles. The guy is hitting for power and driving the ball into gaps all over the place.
I can’t even imagine how bad this team would be offensively without his bat this year.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Aug 24, 2009 9:47 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
The M-Y Haters
have to reconsider. He’s not a perfect player on defense. But, when he’s up to bat, I can visualize a hit. He’s a dangerous hitter to face. And for a franchise with very few legends, he’s what we have.
It's just great to see him hitting for
this much power. I’ve been predicting for several years that he would sit in the 22-28 HR range as he got into his 30s, but it didn’t look like it was going to happen.
by Brett Perryman on Aug 24, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
There isn't much question
he is the frontrunner for Team MVP this year.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
Offensively, he is carrying this thing.
I'm tired of hearing about team chemistry. You are telling me these fuckers wouldn’t like to have a teammate that could actually help the team win, instead of being down 2-4 spots.
by diamond_dave on Aug 24, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Can't believe anybody had a problem with MY making the AS team this year.
The best player on one of the better teams in the league should always make the team.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
Young is not only the team MVP
he deserves to be in the top 10 of league MVP votes.
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Concur...
I’d go even further and say top 5.
Mauer
Teix
Morales
Cabrera
MY
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Perhaps
If you look at the VORP rankings, there are a couple of surprising names near the top:
Joe Mauer – 74.2
Jason Bartlett – 51.9
Michael Young – 51.6
Derek Jeter – 51.4
Miguel Cabrera – 48.3
After that are Zobrist, Ichiro, Youkilis, Crawford and Scutaro.
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I disqualify Mauer if the Twins don't finish .500
and I’m probably not going to consider him if the Twins don’t make the playoffs. Don’t forget that he also missed a month.
If Face can put up a .350 the rest of the way with some more big hits and the Rangers make the playoffs, he has a good chance to win it.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 24, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree he should have a chance to win he will have to overcome the NE media bias of ESPN
I'm tired of hearing about team chemistry. You are telling me these fuckers wouldn’t like to have a teammate that could actually help the team win, instead of being down 2-4 spots.
by diamond_dave on Aug 24, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
sounds about right
that you would disqualify the player who has been hands down the best all year.
Testicals. That is all.
Bingo...
He’s outproducing everybody in the AL by a significant margin, and he’s doing it from a position where offensive production is almost non-existent…
If Joe Mauer finished the season with his current numbers, and the Twins finished about where they’re at now, he’s still the AL MVP by a landslide…
It shouldn't even be close...
Mauer is easily the best player in the AL this year.
I still can’t believe he missed most of April with those #’s. Just sick.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Wow, that's insane
Joe Mauer has been the best player in the AL by a million miles. Not making the playoffs is a ridiculous standard, and anyway, the Twins are closer to the division lead than the Rangers are.
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and by Pythag wins
they should be tied for first in the division.
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According to
Fangraph’s WAR, he is currently 15th in the AL.
Behind
Joe Mauer Twins
Ben Zobrist Rays
Derek Jeter Yankees
Evan Longoria Rays
Marco Scutaro Blue Jays
Carl Crawford Rays
Chone Figgins Angels
Kevin Youkilis Red Sox
Miguel Cabrera Tigers
Dustin Pedroia Red Sox
Ichiro Suzuki Mariners
Mark Teixeira Yankees
Jason Bartlett Rays
Franklin Gutierrez Mariners
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
I understand that...
but I do put some stock in the fact that he has really carried his team offensively this year.
Notice how on that list there are 4 Rays players, 2 Yanks, 2 BoSox, and 2 Mariners. Mauer, of course, is in a league of his own. Perhaps Figgins should be getting more love too.
Without MY the Rangers wouldn’t be in the race. That’s why I’d put him around 5th, and the fact that I’m a Rangers homer of course.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
yea, but MVP voters arent gonna look at that
they are gonna look at the regular stuff and look at the position everyone plays, at this point the only guys on teams that are gonna make the playoffs who would get it ahead of MY are Youk and M-Cab… Joe Mauer deserves it to me no matter where the Twins finish though.
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
he's the 5th or 6th best offensive player in the AL pretty much
i think in terms of wOBA he’s something like that, (i checked this last night but am too lazy to look it up again) and honestly, i think the only non-1Bs ahead of him are Joe Mauer and Jason Bartlett.
And if you havent checked his defense lately, his -10 UZR has gone down to -7.7 or so, so his defense recently has been apparently above average according to UZR… thats pretty exciting if you ask me. He’s close to being a 4 WAR player according Fangraphs already.
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
wOBA
I do not believe it is park-adjusted, so it would probably overstate Young’s offense some
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 24, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Edwin Correia is the one that got away
Damn injuries.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
I watched that game
And thought he was the next Kenny Rogers. Good thing I’m not a pro scout…
by GhostofGaryHogeboom on Aug 24, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions
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Hank is the elephant in the room. When will he disappear?
by inactive lsb user on Aug 24, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
My guess is that Borbon gets sent down.
Screwing up on the bases in LAA was kinda cute because it was one of his first games but then he made the first out at 3B last week v. Minnesota and also missed 3B (didn’t get called).
V. Tampa he misses a sign and gets thrown out at 2B and then he has yet another crucial baserunning gaffe yesterday.
This is Juan Pierre without a brain. Maybe he has the skills to play now but he sure as hell does not have the brain to play the game at this level just yet.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
Awfully jaded assessment.
Without a brain? Rookies make mistakes, it doesn’t mean he doesn’t have a brain. Borbon looks like a smart, hard working player who made a stupid mistake.
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One mistake would be forgivable
but he’s only been in 10-12 games in The Show and his baserunning mistakes are a huge red flag.
He makes Lonnie Smith look like Maury Wills.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
Yay! Josey's found another stupid argument to make!
One mistake would be forgivable
So one mistake is forgivable, but three mistakes means that he’s forever labeled as “Juan Pierre without a brain”?
Do you actually know anything about Borbon, or is this another one of your famous snap judgments that you’ll take with you to your grave?
Borbon is just a worthless magic bean that should never be counted on
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
He's definately not the most fundamental player
I’m hoping he spends a lot of time this off season working on defense, base running, and stuff like that.
by northtexan95 on Aug 24, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Excuse me
I couldn’t understand you with Hank F’s balls in your mouth.
Texas Rangers, sometimes they are the windshield, sometimes they are the bug — Evan Grant
by SonnyKoufaxLSU on Aug 24, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 8 recs
So because he needs to work
on his baserunning he’s without a brain. Nah, he just needs to work on his baserunning. How many rookies come up without some things to work on? The team is reportedly working on his throws and I’m sure they’re talking to him about his baserunning.
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Exactly
This is the same guy who spent the offseason working on his plate discipline with immediate results. When the team told him that he needed to start taking walks in order to be a leadoff hitter, he started doing exactly that. Don’t you wish Blalock had that same ability to improve?
To suggest that Borbon can’t learn and improve is just ignorant.
Well, and he's only been a pro
for 2 years. He’s adjusting pretty well.
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Enjoy this great season as you tell all of us
And quit bitching. It’s time for healing. Please put your butt plug back in and go sit in the corner until spoken to.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
boomer
Bringing up Davis was not the right move unless the Rangers can win at least 24 of their 39 games.
The June Swoon stopped on a dime that glorious night in July and when all the positive changes were made, the team went 28-19 (.596 clip).
Wanna win the war? The Rangers need to go 24-15 the rest of the way and if not, we can blame the stupid sonofabitch GM for F ing up the season.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 24, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
So it has come to this?
I'm tired of hearing about team chemistry. You are telling me these fuckers wouldn’t like to have a teammate that could actually help the team win, instead of being down 2-4 spots.
by diamond_dave on Aug 24, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
My premise
the entire time CDavis sucked the largest dick for the longest time I have ever seen an AL 1B be allowed to do so was that the team would be immediately better with Blalock playing every day / with CD banished to the minors.
A .256 OBP in 277 plate appearances will cause that.
On a dime, the June Swoon ended and the team went 28-19 despite Hank F not putting up good numbers (although he had some of the biggest hits since that glorious evening all the positive changes were made).
This Thing was better without CDavis and a 28-19 (.596) record confirms this.
The only way bringing up CDavis is a good move is if this team plays at a better pace than they have since July 1.
Good luck with all that.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 24, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
And still the Rangers were in First with Davis manning 1b
How about that!
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
They were also coming off their least productive month in the history of the franchise.
CD going .143 with a .491 OPS v LH pitching was a big reason the team stunk in June.
His name in the line-up everyday didn’t play well in the room.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 24, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
I've been wondering
how do you know so much about the rangers lockeroom? Do you follow the team around the country and hide out in the jock strap hamper to see what the mood in the clubhouse is. You sure have a lot of inside info that nobody else has ever heard of.
Testicals. That is all.
correllation does not imply causation
logic error. fail.
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Once again Josey
How do you explain the 20-9 (.690) month of May WITH Chris Davis?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Josey, you ignorant slut.
This post is a parody of yourself. You are mocking yourself better than any of us could.
At this point, I’m wondering if you’re legally allowed to drive a car or sign contracts on your own behalf.
Josey fails with numbers
He is counting the first five days of july… when Davis was still up.
CD was sent down on July 5th. The Rangers were 45-35, a .563 winning percentage.
Since July 5th the Rangers are 24-19, a .559 winning percentage.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DShep on Aug 24, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
I don't fail with numbers, Dshepp
Blalock began playing every day on July 1 and since that glorious evening the Rangers are 28-19.
Little Boy Donuts wants to make a move that helps the team?
Texas needs to go 24-15 down the stretch.
Let’s all hope this was the right move.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 24, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
lets all hope you go play in traffic
by 6th street on Aug 24, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
He wouldn't get hit
Drivers would feel sorry for him thinking he missed the short bus.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
And yet the Rangers were in First with Davis manning 1b
I love how you just gloss right over this.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
i think that everyone will agree
that TEX was in first DESPITE and not BECAUSE davis was manning 1B.
defeatist pussy lives here
by sam in so cal on Aug 24, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
and equally miraculous
is that TEX is still in contention after 123 games w/o a first baseman
defeatist pussy lives here
by sam in so cal on Aug 24, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
What will Little Boy Donuts do
if CDavis rocks another 1 for 22?
A 3 for 44 (with 24Ks)?
A 7 for 60 (with 27K’s)?
As he unpacks his bags and heads to Yankee Stadium tomorrow, a nice steamy 4 for 28 (with 11Ks) that he left on the table last month will be there to greet him.
This is no longer the time to play politics with your baseball team. If you do, we all saw what happened in June.
I also suspect Joba has a big ripe 90 mph battng practice fastball with a ribbon on it waiting for him as well.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 24, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
all Chris needs to do in NY is better than Blalock did in Tampa
That would be 1-11 and not allow 3 pick-offs to get away plus 2 other throws to result in non outs. Simple enough.
I'm tired of hearing about team chemistry. You are telling me these fuckers wouldn’t like to have a teammate that could actually help the team win, instead of being down 2-4 spots.
by diamond_dave on Aug 24, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Still waiting for the link to the evidence that the veterans hate the front office.
In the meantime…
"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009
by ghtd36 on Aug 24, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That is my point with Blalock
The Rangers have been covering for 1b all year long no matter who is over there. The Rangers are not where they are at because of Davis or Hank.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
Of course.
Chris had little to do with the rangers success while he was up. Hank has just as little to do with their success while Chris was down.
Will CD over Hank help the rest of the way? Can’t say, but its worth a shot. If he has a .260 obp the next month I’m sure he will lose playing time again. I doubt it happens.
I swear some people would like CD more if he had never had his good half year in 2008. Then he’d just be another premium prospect that struggled in their debut rather than having greater immediate expectations placed on him because of his previous mlb success.
the preceding post was a great success.
if nothing else...
maybe he provides the same spark that hank provided in july – even if he (davis) later shits the bed, too.
remember that the Rangers were 7-2 first nine games in july – hank going 14/35 4 HR 8 RBI. he was .290 for the month, but really it was skewed by the first few games.
defeatist pussy lives here
by sam in so cal on Aug 24, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Uh...
“This Thing was better without CDavis and a 28-19 (.596) record confirms this.”
I can only presume this CDavis is Chris Davis.
the preceding post was a great success.
When you refute his arguement he just changes his arguement.
I'm tired of hearing about team chemistry. You are telling me these fuckers wouldn’t like to have a teammate that could actually help the team win, instead of being down 2-4 spots.
by diamond_dave on Aug 24, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm disappointed in you
If this response were a baseball player, it would be Donnie Sadler.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 24, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
ajm
My premise was always about the team and how Davis’ presence (and how he was being used while Little Boy Donuts was obviously screwing Hank F) and performance were killing the team.
The Rangers went 28-19 when Hank F was allowed to play every day and it was obviously a decision that played well in the room.
If the Rangers go 24-15 the rest of the way, this was a good move.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 24, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Is it really screwing Hank...
if he pretty clearly sucked when he was given the opportunity?
Hank had his chance. He hit well for two weeks to begin July and has been just as big a bag a shit as CDavis this entire season…
He may not strike out as much, but there’s not much difference between striking out and dribbling a low and away pitch to second base because you’re trying so desperately to pull everything over the RF fence, is there?
i still dont get it
if Davis’ performance was equally as bad as Blalock’s over a similar period of time (a fact that can be backed up by stats), how can you know that CD’s performance was detrimental to the team but Blalock’s was not?
Is it simply because of the difference in the records? I just dont get it. What does “played well in the room” mean? Can you quantify how many wins a move that “plays well in the room” is worth?
Is it your position that all the other guys on the 25 man roster despised Davis, but loved Blalock, simply because Davis was struggling? It just doesnt make any sense. So irrational.
Again
Where’s the proof that JD was “obviously screwing Hank?” Or that the decision to play Hank everyday “played well in the room?”
You make it sound like Daniels had some sort of agenda to play Davis over Hank because he didn’t like Blalock, which is absolute horseshit until you can prove otherwise.
If you have a front office or team source that’s told you this information, let’s hear who it is.
Officially gay for Neftali Feliz
So.....
If Davis rakes the rest of the year and the Rangers go 15-24, it was a bad move??
If Davis shits the bed again and the team goes 24-15, then it was a good move??
This makes no sense……….again!!
If the Rangers go 24-15 the rest of the way, this was a good move.
Let's hope the second half will be as good as the first half has been.
"played well in the room"
There is no, zero, nada, zip evidence for this phrase you rely on so heavily. You don’t think “the room” sees that Blalock has been sucking ass? He’s been beyond terrible and everyone knows it, including the veterans in “the room”.
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How do you know this??
I think if Boston goes 0-39 and we go 2-37 down the stretch, we are in the playoffs.
Texas needs to go 24-15 down the stretch.
Let's hope the second half will be as good as the first half has been.
Of course.....
everyone else in the Wild Card race would have to sucks ass as well…um.
Let's hope the second half will be as good as the first half has been.
Actually once you account for Home/Away splits. We have 23 road games left.
We need to go 21-18 rest of way to accomplish the same split as Blalock’s.
I'm tired of hearing about team chemistry. You are telling me these fuckers wouldn’t like to have a teammate that could actually help the team win, instead of being down 2-4 spots.
by diamond_dave on Aug 24, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
The last 5 games Davis played in were all wins for the Rangers
After he was sent down, they lost the next game, and then proceeded to lose 6 of their next 9.
So how exactly did the June swoom “stop on a dime”?
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 24, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Using your logic
Hey the Rangers were closer to first when CD was playing 1B. They started losing a lot of ground when Mr. Hanky started playing 1B. Therefore, Hank Blalock’s regime of the Rangers consistently losing games in the standings while he is playing is over. Yes!!
08/03/2009 A day that will live in infamy for the rest of the AL West.
by Michael Cave on Aug 24, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
But, but it was a glorious day when Hank took over!
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
Josey
I seem to recall that you once said that you were pretty big….like 6’4" / 230…is that right?
If you want some slack, bring your own rope.
by rangerfaninva on Aug 24, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
I was just going to offer up what he would weight
without the ego or the pride….and if he spit up Hanks balls.
If you want some slack, bring your own rope.
by rangerfaninva on Aug 24, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Of course
The June Swoon stopped on that “night in July.”
Because otherwise, it would have been the June-July Swoon…
It’s cute that you still think Blalock had much of anything to do with that, though. Or that repeating it for the 5000th time will make anyone more likely to believe you.
Still waiting for that proof that the vets on the team don’t like Daniels, BTW.
Officially gay for Neftali Feliz
Hell will freeze before you get that link.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
Just throwing out a little logic
You keep saying that everything changed when Hank took over 1st when Davis was sent down. You have never mentioned once that maybe this had something to do with Josh being activated from the DL at that time. So you think Josh had no effect on the lineup but it was all because of good old Hank?
Josh
was a giant bag of suck until he found out his infamous pics were about to come out in their full glory before catching fire.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 24, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
I think the world is much easier to explain for JW without logic
The Outlaw: When everyone else wastes their time using logic, he turns his back on it
I call BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Davis went down after the July 5 game the record after all the positive changes was 24-19 that is a .558% (not 28-19). Before Davis went down the record was 45-35 a .5625% (1’st place).
Plus the June swoon didn’t end until July 19 (after Hank’s first 9 games 3-6) and coincided with our pitching started pitching lights out.
I'm tired of hearing about team chemistry. You are telling me these fuckers wouldn’t like to have a teammate that could actually help the team win, instead of being down 2-4 spots.
by diamond_dave on Aug 24, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah you beat me to it - of course now the arguement has changed again.
I'm tired of hearing about team chemistry. You are telling me these fuckers wouldn’t like to have a teammate that could actually help the team win, instead of being down 2-4 spots.
by diamond_dave on Aug 24, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
"The Rangers need to go 24-15 the rest of the way and if not, we can blame the stupid sonofabitch GM for F ing up the season."
so the October-April patented “Why this is all JD’s Fault Post” has been decided upon. Awesome…it’s going to be a long offseason.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
the funny thing
is that sucky davis > sucky hamilton
if nothing else, one factors into rangers future, the other does not
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Taking steroids is only gonna make him whiff on those sliders in the dirt with more fury." -thedirkatron
by knockoutking on Aug 24, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
sucky blalock***
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Taking steroids is only gonna make him whiff on those sliders in the dirt with more fury." -thedirkatron
by knockoutking on Aug 24, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Both the replay and the umpire agreed he did touch that base.
I'm tired of hearing about team chemistry. You are telling me these fuckers wouldn’t like to have a teammate that could actually help the team win, instead of being down 2-4 spots.
by diamond_dave on Aug 24, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
how was it crucial?
he ended up scoring a unnecessary run.
Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball
You're a dumbass...
You were wrong, as go on and grasp at every straw you can…
Of the games Julio Borbon has played, he’s contributed a VERY significant amount more to wins than he has to losses…
haha ok
so just disregard all the scouting reports that say he’s a very smart player with a great work ethic… I always thought of myself as the scrappy, smart baseball player but i definitely did stuff alot stupidier than Julio did on the Baseball field… It happens when you are nervous, uptight and unsure of everything. The kid is a kid, get over it.
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
Lineup this week:
Alright, Davis is back, where should we go with the lineup?
1. Chocolate Ichiro
2. Face
3. Hammy
4. Cruz
5. Kinsler
6. Byrd
7. Davis
8. Tea/Pudge
9. Tiny E
"Support the Dutch Oven"
Looks good.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Aug 24, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions
That should be it...
but I’m sure Wash will put Byrd in the 4 hole over Cruz.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Chocolate Ichiro?
Horrible nickname. And drop the Tiny E also.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
I should have known
it came from The Ticket. :(
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
ugh
I don’t care if the pope blesses it, its a bad nickname.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
His nickname should be Coolio.
"Stats are like a woman in a fine little bikini. You can see a lot, but you can't see everything." -Dirk A. Tron
ha, I like when some of the fans were yelling JU-LI-O b4 his ABs
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
looks about right - it will never happen though
I'm tired of hearing about team chemistry. You are telling me these fuckers wouldn’t like to have a teammate that could actually help the team win, instead of being down 2-4 spots.
by diamond_dave on Aug 24, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions
SBNation question
So, i have firefox and when I am in a post, it never completely loads and new comments are not being loaded/refreshed unless I click the refresh button. Any thoughts? Its very annoying and I havent been able to get in a game day thread bc the comments are being posted for me?
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
Do you have the Java plug-in installed in Firefox??
That would cause it not to work.
Let's hope the second half will be as good as the first half has been.
Rotation
Post All-Star break ERAs of our starting rotation:
Millwood, 3.55
Feldman, 3.94
Holland, 2.95
Hunter, 2.95
Nippert, 3.25
by Darrell McKown on Aug 24, 2009 11:15 AM CDT reply actions
That, my friend, is just CRAZY!!!
I cannot even begin to think about a time where over a decent sample size, there isnt one Texas Ranger starting pitcher with an ERA above 4.0!! Un-freaking-believable!!!
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
Correction
Hunter’s is actually 3.12.
Still pretty darn good…..
by Darrell McKown on Aug 24, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
do you still want to replace Nippert w/ McCarthy?
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
Those aren't post-ASB ERA's
Those are post-“Glorious Night” ERAs.
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 24, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Hank Blalock
His stats when he was being platooned according to Josey: 237/283/502
His stats wneh he plays everyday according to Josey: 238/264/439
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 24, 2009 11:17 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
But
It’s all about how well it played in the room. Hank’s actual stats don’t matter. His playing everyday is the real reason the team is winning so much- his Holy light has caused the seas to part, puppies and rainbows, and the pitching staff’s stellar post-ASB ERA.
In fact, if not for Hank Blalock, I’m pretty sure Nazis on dinosaurs would have overrun the Earth by now.
Officially gay for Neftali Feliz
With Hank playing everyday MY and the others veterens went down to the young pitchers
and said we got our way and you MF’s better start leading the league in ERA
I'm tired of hearing about team chemistry. You are telling me these fuckers wouldn’t like to have a teammate that could actually help the team win, instead of being down 2-4 spots.
by diamond_dave on Aug 24, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Platoon that sunuva bitch
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Christ alfuckingmighty
We get it, he’s fucking terrible.
I cannot believe there has been this much circular discussion regarding the exact magnitude of suck. It’s a fucking beating of massive proportions.
by LiamP on Aug 24, 2009 11:45 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
You've got the wrong attitude
This is fun. You gotta just laugh at how worked up everyone gets over it.
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 24, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Just a thought...
Let’s say Davis comes up and this team finishes 22-17 and misses the playoffs by a game…
Josey spouts off about how it was a massive failure and how JD bringing Chris Davis up spoiled the milk of the room and how benching Blalock derailed the season, etc…
At what point does Michael Young’s ability to lead This Thing to the Great Game’s Promised Land come into question? He’s the team’s leader, correct? If he allows a move being made to supplant a guy that is failing miserably drag the chemistry down and derail this season, doesn’t some of that fall on his shoulders?
It’s not JD’s job to manage the mood in The Room… It’s Ron Washington’s. And it’s Michael Young’s and Marlon Byrd’s and Josh Hamilton’s and Ian Kinsler’s and Kevin Millwood’s jobs as this team’s leaders…
if we finish the season 22-17 and miss the playoffs then we just have to tip our cap to the teams that did
And any Ranger fan who is pissed about a season where we finish 20 games over .500 needs to go fuck themselves
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Oh I completely agree...
Just saying… If something like this blows team chemistry at this stage of the season, the team’s leadership needs to fall under the gun…
historically
michael young : rangers :: tony romo : cowboys
that is, he should be the unquestioned team leader but is more of the quiet type (at least from what we know)
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Taking steroids is only gonna make him whiff on those sliders in the dirt with more fury." -thedirkatron
by knockoutking on Aug 24, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Millwood Warning
I’m not sure this team will be able to make the playoffs next year with Millwood as their best pitcher. We all slate him in there because we’re used to a pitching staff where Vicente Padilla is the second best option. Though he’s been good, he hasn’t really been a No. 1 pitcher for the Rangers the past 2 years and he is likely to regress from this season’s ERA next year.
Year: K/9/ BB/9/ GB/FB / FIP / tRA+ / WAR (Fangraphs)
2007: 6.4 / 3.5 / 1.44 / 4.55 / 88 / 2.7 WAR
2008: 6.7 / 2.6 / 1.20 / 4.02 / 92 / 3.4 WAR
2009: 5.6 / 3.1 / 1.13 / 4.56 / 91 / 2.4 WAR
Some have been claiming that his decreased strikeouts this year have been because he’s pitching to contact more and trying to induce groundballs. But really, his GB/FB ratio has been declining for the past 3 years. Combine that with striking out one less better per 9 innings than the past 2 years and I think there is some cause for worry. This isn’t to say he will be Chan Ho Park next year, just that the chances that he is a No. 1 Ace on a division winner doesn’t seem very good.
On a more postiive note: Derek Holland.
Millwood is our number 1 pitcher in name only
There’s a good chance one of the less experienced pitchers ends up having a much better season than him next season, but you just can’t rely on any one person to really do that. Holland or Feldman would be my guesses as to who would perform better than him next season.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Millwood won't be #1 pitcher probably already #2 and wouldn't be surprised if #3 next year.
I'm tired of hearing about team chemistry. You are telling me these fuckers wouldn’t like to have a teammate that could actually help the team win, instead of being down 2-4 spots.
by diamond_dave on Aug 24, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Huh
I think everyone assumes this. But it doesn’t make a difference if hes “slotted” at #1 or not… Holland/Feliz/Feldman/Hunter/McCarthy/Harrison, maybe Sheets or another FA…
I’m not too worried about the rotation declining, at least when considering the defense will be the same or possibly better if Borbon can get a handle on technique.
the preceding post was a great success.
I guess a follow-up should be:
Unless you are willing to roll with Holland as your ace (which seems risky given his youth), another pitcher needs to be brought in over the offseason. It’s weird to say on the one hand because there seem to be more back of the rotation types than spots for them next year. However, the weakness of next year’s rotation seems to be at the top. I think it would be unrealistic to expect Feliz to not have any struggles as he transitions to major league starter next year (see Holland, Ubaldo Jimenez, etc). Hunter and Feldman have exceeded expectations this year, but nobody considers them an ace.
Cheap, quality depth is an important characteristic of most good teams. But, usually, the ones that make the playoffs and succeed there have a great pitcher or two at the top of their rotation. If we’re looking for an improvement big enough to significantly increase the odds of a division winner beyond the expected in house moves next season (Smoak, Harrison, McCarthy, etc), it’s probably going to have to come from a trade. That was point.
by GhettoBear04 on Aug 24, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I think this is why many here think a trade is likely this offseason
something like a young BORP, a ML OF, and prospect(s) for a good arb eligible #2 type starter with only a couple years of club control left.
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
What about Davis and/or MaxRam?
Granted…MaxRams’ value is pretty low right now. Still, seems like it would be worth considering. I spend more free time than I should thinking about what the value of Harrison/Moscoso/etc + Davis + MaxRam/Teagarden would be. Especially if you threw in one of the sub-AA studs.
Josh Johnson? I’d love see his 7.79 K/9, 3.15 FIP, 123 tRA+ badassedness in a Ranger uni next year…
by GhettoBear04 on Aug 24, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Have you ever noticed
that whenever people talk about trading someone, there is almost always the caveat “of course, their value is down right now”? People get too attached to prospects when they are doing well and are only willing to trade them when they are doing poorly, which is course is the worst time to trade them. It takes balls for a GM to trade a prospect when they are doing well and when it works out, they look like geniuses and when it doesn’t you get Josey calling for their head.
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 24, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
It's true.
But I’ve been a fan of this idea since last offseason. Really, I’m more guilty of the “why can’t we trade our leftover parts for a TORG?” cyberfan beatdown/rosterbation. Just can’t help myself really…guilty pleasure.
You should have seen me when Shaq was about to be traded from the Lakers….le sigh.
by GhettoBear04 on Aug 24, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions
you'd give up that much
for nolasco?
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by studcrackers on Aug 24, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmm, but losing Cruz and Byrd ?
Seems like you’d need a replacement, eh? I think it’d be worthwhile to at least pursue a Davis + Catcher version of that in place of Cruz.
Nolasco has looked pretty great though. His WHIP has gone up a tick this year, but he’s also increased his K/9 from 7.88 to 8.96, lowering his FIP from 3.77 to 3.55. With a BABIP of .338 and a LOB% of 61.0%, he could be even better next year.
by GhettoBear04 on Aug 24, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Well
I’m not sure that I wouldn’t rather have Davis + Max than Cruz.
And then you go next year with a platoon of Murphy and Boggs in LF, Borbon in CF, and Hamilton in RF.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 24, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Really?
It seems like at least one of them wouldn’t have a place next year. And while that OF would be is very rangy defensively, I’m not sure it would hit enough.
I would rather keep Cruz than those two, then address DH through FA. I don’t hate your idea though given Cruz’s age.
by GhettoBear04 on Aug 24, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Until I actually see the Rangers play Hamilton and Cruz in the corners together I won'y believe it will happen
For some reason the Rangers have shown no interest in playing those guys in LF and RF at the same time. Even after Hamilton came off the DL and we heard about how we were going to try and ease his workload he has played either CF, RF, or DH with Cruz only being RF or DH. I don’t know why that is but thats one of the reasons I think we see Cruz traded this winter
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I asked Daniels about that at NMLR
He said they’d be fine doing that.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 24, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Nolasco
I know a lot of it was BABIP-driven, but that early-season meltdown he had makes me a bit leery of calling him a “legit TORP” just yet.
His peripherals are outstanding, though.
Officially gay for Neftali Feliz
I'd really hate...
to give up Nellie, but if Florida would accept that deal then I think you have to make it.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
the guy threw a TON of sliders last year fwiw
but yea his stsats have been pretty good
i just dont want to move nelly…
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Taking steroids is only gonna make him whiff on those sliders in the dirt with more fury." -thedirkatron
by knockoutking on Aug 24, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Cruz + Harrison + Kiker for Nolasco
What does Florida say?
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Aug 24, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Florida
would say no thank you.
They have Coghlan, Ross, and Maybin in the OF next year. Is Hermida up for arb. again?
with super stud Stanton on the way
but Coughlan could end up at 2b, Uggla at 3rd.
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
Agree.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Aug 24, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
im definitely down with adding a good vet SP to go with what we got
and i think Sheets fits what we’d be looking for. But if we get solid production from the other 3 or 4 guys, we dont really need a true #1 starter
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
Does anyone ever read comments on LSB and feel like they're watching Jerry Springer?
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Aug 24, 2009 11:49 AM CDT reply actions
That’s funny.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Aug 24, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
But that's true
with most blogs, LSB is hardly unique there.
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Other blogs do it?
That changes everything.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Aug 24, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
And that's why its so entertaining
There is a reason so many people watch Jerry.
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 24, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
it sucks
because there are small pockets of good discussion, but working your way through the thread takes so much effort that it is hardly worth it.
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
thank goodness for the "z" button
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
i just discovered this z button
5 minutes ago. whoever invented it should get blowjobs on command for the rest of his life.
Testicals. That is all.
discovery of the "z" button was the greatest day of my life
I can’t agree to give the inventor a blowjob on command, however… YOU GAY
Obviously I meant
BJs from sexy, good BJ giving whoores. Get your mind out of the gutter. Or on the other end of the gutter or something
Testicals. That is all.
I'm a big fan of Shift-A
followed by liberal use of “a”.
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 24, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
err... liberal use of "z"
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 24, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Do we have to wait 24 hrs to find out
the how the Rangers are going to get CD on the roster? Who will break the news first: Evan, Andro/Wilson or TR?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
Then one of the others 15 minutes later with the correct news, then TR 10 minutes later correcting himself.
by Brett Perryman on Aug 24, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Didn't take long
for you to join the S-T / DMN rivalry/trash talk.
I've been
bagging on TR reports/commentary for years. I think it started when he wrote an article in the winter of 2002 that sounded like it had been dictated by John Hart about how bad the farm system was and how they were going to have to work a long time to fix it. That system had just promoted Michael Young and had Mark Teixeira, Hank Blalock, Kevin Mench, Carlos Pena, Travis Hafner, Laynce Nix, Jason Botts, Colby Lewis, CJ Wilson, Nick Masset, Jovanny Cedeno, Ryan Dittfurth, Joaquin Benoit, Juan/Jose Dominguez, Edinson Volquez, Justin Duchscherer. And remember, Cedeno, Lewis and Dittfurth were three of the best pitching prospects Texas has had since the 80s before they all blew out their shoulders under the Hart regime. Add their talent at the time to Wilson, Masset, Volquez, Duchscherer and Benoit, and the pitching from that group probably matches the hitting in retrospect.
BA ranked it #8 even after he dealt Pena for the lesser prospects.
by Brett Perryman on Aug 24, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Also
it’s a little hard to forget about the Purke thing so soon. That was a reporting disaster, especially from the guy who works for the team website of all things.
by Brett Perryman on Aug 24, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Brett P
How come you reserve any criticism for Ranger management in here instead of the DMN?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
I don't consciously do that
Maybe I am more positive, but I know I’ve thought to myself on a couple of occasions, I’m a fan, not a beat writer, so I’m going to go ahead and be critical because I think that’s appropriate. The couple of guys who rail on me about never ripping Washington don’t even pay attention to what I’ve actually written when I’ve posted, I don’t think. The other thing is, I’m only commenting on posts here, not conceiving posts, so what I say should be a little more judicious and well thought-out there, I’d think.
I know that I’ve been pretty critical of Ron Washington on a few occasions, including a mini-rant about Feliz Saturday night. I’ve criticized his lineups a few times. But I haven’t done all that many posts that address the sorts of issues where you’d be tough on them. I’ve probably only done 10-15 game review type posts, and it seems like most of them were after wins.
And I’ve questioned them all year for the instances where I think they’ve been too cavalier with the young pitchers. I remember that Adam linked at least one of those.
by Brett Perryman on Aug 24, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
How come nobody at DMN criticizes JD or Tom Hicks?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 24, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions
You got nothin'
so you’re resorting to lame attempts to damage the credibility of DMN and/or Brett. As lame as your ridiculous Blalock ball washing.
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Texas Rangers six-time All-Star Michael Young, who led the Majors with 15 hits last week, has been named the American League Player of the Week presented by Bank of America for the period ending August 23rd.
by GregoryM on Aug 24, 2009 3:28 PM CDT reply actions
Don't they get a watch or something
for winning these awards? Like they need it. Why not just give some $ to charity?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
CJ has sucked lately, sez the Hardline
Post ASB:
17.1 12 6 6 0 9 29 3.12 1.21 .188
STFU, please!
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
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