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Johan Santana likely needs surgery

Johan Santana is scheduled to see a doctor, in the wake of being scratched from his latest start, and is expected to need surgery on his left elbow.  The fear, of course, has to be that he might need Tommy John surgery, that would cost him the 2010 season, along with the rest of 2009.

This is on the heels of the Mets' Jeff Franceour tearing a ligament in his left thumb.

This, of course, is part of the wussification of baseball that Maury Allen laments in his latest column, in which he says the Mets' "new history of chokiness and wimpiness" is going to keep them from winning.  And to illustrate this "wimpiness," Allen talks about David Wright taking time off after getting a concussion, saying that Wright "took a pitch on the cocoanut and is now resting comfortably on the Mets disabled list. " 

Because everyone knows that how comfortable you are when suffering from post-concussion syndrome.

So, yeah, if Santana were a real man, he'd pitch through the pain, the way real men like Sandy Koufax (threw his last pitch at age 30) and Don Drysdale (retired two months after his 33rd birthday) did. 

And if Wright were a real man, clearly, he'd go out there and suck it up and not let a little issue like a concussion keep him on the sidelines.

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I would think that Jeff Franceour tearing a ligament in his thumb would actually be a good thing for the Mets.

J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM

Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.

by LSJ on Aug 24, 2009 7:27 PM CDT reply actions  

He's played well for them

He’s got talent…and given that he’s arb-eligible, they probably would have liked to have seen him over the last six weeks to get a handle on whether he’s getting back on track or just on a good streak.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 24, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

This guy and the one word answers...

has to be a bit right?

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by TxStCa on Aug 24, 2009 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

It boggles the mind

How little people seem to know about concussions. Not putting Wright on the DL would’ve been completely irresponsible.

by Motiak on Aug 24, 2009 7:34 PM CDT reply actions  

What the hell kind of website is that?

It looks like the kind of site 13 year old girls used to create on Angelfire/Geocities.

by LiamP on Aug 24, 2009 7:36 PM CDT reply actions  

hey

it looks like an angelfire page i made when i was a 14 year old boy!

" This is the inning that propels us to the playoffs. Mark it down."
- Rohn Warshington on Jul 27, 2009 9:19 PM EDT
5th inning against the Tigers

by gossamer on Aug 24, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Webdesigning is for wimps

Maury Allen is clearly too busy outside playing through the concussion that inspired him to write that article.

J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM

Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.

by LSJ on Aug 24, 2009 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey

He showed up ………. sorta.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -

"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce

by Ed Coffin on Aug 24, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

the "copyright 2009"

is totally incompatible with every aspect of the design of that page.

by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Aug 24, 2009 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tell 'em to rub some Tussin on it

Like Chris Rock’s mom.

Your 2009 Snow Monkey Ambassador

by Parman on Aug 24, 2009 7:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Windex works better.

by Bats and Balls on Aug 24, 2009 8:56 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, suck it up!

If Nolan Effing Ryan can pitch through a destroyed shoulder…

oh wait…

yeah, scratch that.

She say she are the manager.

by rockin_rangers on Aug 24, 2009 8:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow

Not good for baseball. Potentially yet another example of (1) FA pitching biting you in the ass, and (2) you can never have enough pitching.

by Sherman McCoy on Aug 24, 2009 8:52 PM CDT reply actions  

JD's Plan

looks even wiser tonight.

Rule #1 of Fight Club…

Never sign a pricey free agent.

by 3Bagger on Aug 24, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Santana's Contract

Can someone provide the details of his contract status? Are the Mets insured against this type of injury?

Just curious.

by 3Bagger on Aug 24, 2009 9:04 PM CDT reply actions  

dude

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Aug 25, 2009 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

No...

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Aug 25, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

signed through 2013 with a $5.5 million buyout in 2014

making $21-25 million per year for the next four years.

Not a bad contract for the first almost two years, and could be saved from being a horrible deal if he returns and pitches somewhat like how he has so far for them. But it would look a whole lot better if the mets hadnt stunk it up so much and had actually ridden his superb performance to a world series, or god forbid, even a playoff appearance.

by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Aug 24, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

That’s a lot of cheddar for a Tommy John Mo-Fo.

by 3Bagger on Aug 24, 2009 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Imagine how much fuel you could put in Lenny Dykstra's plane with that amount of cheddar!

"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT

by WestTxAg06 on Aug 24, 2009 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cheddar Man

Dykstra could buy an entire plane with one trade’s profit. He’s that good on Wall Street. Just ask him.

by 3Bagger on Aug 24, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

or Jim Cramer

I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.

by DerekSTheRed on Aug 25, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

no prob

if you havent heard of it, anytime you want contract info, type “Cot’s Contracts” into google. They have a plethora of cool stuff. You will find yourself browsing it team by team for a long time.

by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Aug 24, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Santana

I suspect the Mets have insurance that would kick in if he missed an entire season. Probably wouldn’t cover his entire salary, but something like 75% of it after he missed x number of games.

by Darrell McKown on Aug 24, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone remember what the deal was

That would have brought Santana here? I recall that it included Elvis, but can’t think of the other players involved.

by Conjunction on Aug 24, 2009 9:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Wright

Not only would he be “sucking it up” to play with post-concussion syndrome, but he would be doing it with his team 13.5 games out of the playoffs.

There’s no way you let him play even if he wants to.

by Darrell McKown on Aug 24, 2009 9:34 PM CDT reply actions  

an athlete

has to be able to distinguish between soreness and injury.

by SteveP on Aug 24, 2009 11:04 PM CDT reply actions  

OT: Tigers Beating Angels

They make it look SO easy. Why can’t other teams beat them like this?

by 3Bagger on Aug 24, 2009 11:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Arredondo has COMPLETELY SHAT all over himself.

He’s sucked bigger dick than Josey Wales at The OP this season.

by TooLegitToQuit on Aug 24, 2009 11:18 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Haha

That’s what I was thinking. Verlander is everything we hope/dream Feliz will be…including be able to dial up his fastball to 100 when he needs to.

by GhettoBear04 on Aug 25, 2009 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nice, but...

The Tigers scored 10 against the Angels staff.

by 3Bagger on Aug 25, 2009 3:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Roman Mob

A few “sports writers” like this douche (his name reminds me of the annoying wig salesman from “Goodfellas”) and a larger proportion of fans simply don’t give a shit about the health or safety of players.

They’re the direct descendants of the ignorant baboons jumping up and down in the Coliseum screaming for gladiator blood. They just want to be entertained and damn the consequences. Santana’s a pussy because he won’t get up there and pitch until his arm snaps. Wright’s a pussy because he won’t wobble his way through a concussion. Why? Because I want to be entertained, that’s why!

With “fans” like this, who needs injuries?

by Mister Naxal on Aug 25, 2009 12:12 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Since there's no morning post yet...

…I’ll put this here. It’s from Rob Neyer yesterday, responding to an article by Bill Plunkett:

Well, now Plunkett’s got even more evidence for his case:

      "Bobby Abreu is getting a lot of credit as a man of influence.

      With the Angels’ offense having one of its most productive seasons ever – showing newfound respect for plate discipline and working counts, in particular – Abreu is getting credit for rubbing off on his teammates."



First, the career and 2009 pitches per plate appearance for Abreu’s star pupils: Figgy, Izzy, Aybar and Morales …

Chone Figgins: 3.97/4.20 ()
Maicer Izturis: 3.76/3.82 ()
Erick Aybar: 3.35/3.49 ()
Kendry Morales: 3.61/3.97 ()

Impressive, no? But it’s not just those four. Here are the other Angels with at least 300 plate appearances:

Mike Napoli: 4.31/4.16 (-)
Howie Kendrick: 3.32/3.78 ()
Juan Rivera: 3.44/3.69 ()
Torii Hunter: 3.52/3.72 ()
Gary Matthews: 3.76/4.06 ()

Overall, that’s eight plusses and one minus, with that belonging to Napoli, who’s still one of the most selective hitters on the club.

He goes on to discuss some of the details of reasons for this and decides that it’s probably some combination of their managers preaching more patience and from Abreu’s influence. Or luck. Either way, I think Abreu is a free agent this offseason and I’d love to see him in a Rangers uni in a OF/DH role.

by GhettoBear04 on Aug 25, 2009 8:35 AM CDT reply actions  

I find it interesting that

in 2008 the Rangers brought in Bradley, a high OBP hitter like Abreu, and the Rangers lead the league in runs/gm. Likewise, with the Abreu and the Angels this year.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Aug 25, 2009 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, that man

is the pitcher.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Aug 25, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

DH next season

I like Smoakin’s idea about Thome. He would likely be cheap and he is an OBP monster (career >.400) with the same type of patience that might be contagious.

"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out

by tricer on Aug 25, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM

Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.

by LSJ on Aug 25, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

TCU article about Purke

At 11:10 p.m., Schlossnagle received the call.

“We probably didn’t talk 30 seconds,” Schlossnagle said. “He was really, really emotional, because it was really hard for him and his family. It was as much stress as you can possibly imagine.”

http://media.www.tcudailyskiff.com/media/storage/paper792/news/2009/08/25/Sports/Rangers.Prospect.Tables.A.4.Million.Deal.To.Play.At.Tcu-3756502.shtml

by GregoryM on Aug 25, 2009 9:44 AM CDT reply actions  

to take or not to take $4,000,000 at 18 years old
“as much stress as you can possibly imagine”

Yeah, right.

"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out

by tricer on Aug 25, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

You'd be stressed out too...

if God was telling you not to take 4 mil.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Aug 25, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

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