Johan Santana likely needs surgery
Johan Santana is scheduled to see a doctor, in the wake of being scratched from his latest start, and is expected to need surgery on his left elbow. The fear, of course, has to be that he might need Tommy John surgery, that would cost him the 2010 season, along with the rest of 2009.
This is on the heels of the Mets' Jeff Franceour tearing a ligament in his left thumb.
This, of course, is part of the wussification of baseball that Maury Allen laments in his latest column, in which he says the Mets' "new history of chokiness and wimpiness" is going to keep them from winning. And to illustrate this "wimpiness," Allen talks about David Wright taking time off after getting a concussion, saying that Wright "took a pitch on the cocoanut and is now resting comfortably on the Mets disabled list. "
Because everyone knows that how comfortable you are when suffering from post-concussion syndrome.
So, yeah, if Santana were a real man, he'd pitch through the pain, the way real men like Sandy Koufax (threw his last pitch at age 30) and Don Drysdale (retired two months after his 33rd birthday) did.
And if Wright were a real man, clearly, he'd go out there and suck it up and not let a little issue like a concussion keep him on the sidelines.
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I would think that Jeff Franceour tearing a ligament in his thumb would actually be a good thing for the Mets.
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.
He's played well for them
He’s got talent…and given that he’s arb-eligible, they probably would have liked to have seen him over the last six weeks to get a handle on whether he’s getting back on track or just on a good streak.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 24, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions
This guy and the one word answers...
has to be a bit right?
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
It boggles the mind
How little people seem to know about concussions. Not putting Wright on the DL would’ve been completely irresponsible.
What the hell kind of website is that?
It looks like the kind of site 13 year old girls used to create on Angelfire/Geocities.
Webdesigning is for wimps
Maury Allen is clearly too busy outside playing through the concussion that inspired him to write that article.
J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM
Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.
Hey
He showed up ………. sorta.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Aug 24, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions
the "copyright 2009"
is totally incompatible with every aspect of the design of that page.
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Aug 24, 2009 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions
The Mets just keep getting kicked in the nuts with injuries.
I don’t like to use that excuse, especially with that payroll, but Jeez.
Yeah, suck it up!
If Nolan Effing Ryan can pitch through a destroyed shoulder…
oh wait…
yeah, scratch that.
She say she are the manager.
Wow
Not good for baseball. Potentially yet another example of (1) FA pitching biting you in the ass, and (2) you can never have enough pitching.
Santana's Contract
Can someone provide the details of his contract status? Are the Mets insured against this type of injury?
Just curious.
dude
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 25, 2009 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions
No...
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 25, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
signed through 2013 with a $5.5 million buyout in 2014
making $21-25 million per year for the next four years.
Not a bad contract for the first almost two years, and could be saved from being a horrible deal if he returns and pitches somewhat like how he has so far for them. But it would look a whole lot better if the mets hadnt stunk it up so much and had actually ridden his superb performance to a world series, or god forbid, even a playoff appearance.
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Aug 24, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Imagine how much fuel you could put in Lenny Dykstra's plane with that amount of cheddar!
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
Cheddar Man
Dykstra could buy an entire plane with one trade’s profit. He’s that good on Wall Street. Just ask him.
or Jim Cramer
I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.
by DerekSTheRed on Aug 25, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions
no prob
if you havent heard of it, anytime you want contract info, type “Cot’s Contracts” into google. They have a plethora of cool stuff. You will find yourself browsing it team by team for a long time.
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Aug 24, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Santana
I suspect the Mets have insurance that would kick in if he missed an entire season. Probably wouldn’t cover his entire salary, but something like 75% of it after he missed x number of games.
by Darrell McKown on Aug 24, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Anyone remember what the deal was
That would have brought Santana here? I recall that it included Elvis, but can’t think of the other players involved.
I'm pretty sure the specifics of the Rangers' offer were never disclosed
by Joey Matschulat on Aug 24, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
I got the impression that JD was kind of like Lloyd Christmas leaving the convenience store.
by Brett Perryman on Aug 24, 2009 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Wright
Not only would he be “sucking it up” to play with post-concussion syndrome, but he would be doing it with his team 13.5 games out of the playoffs.
There’s no way you let him play even if he wants to.
Arredondo has COMPLETELY SHAT all over himself.
He’s sucked bigger dick than Josey Wales at The OP this season.
by TooLegitToQuit on Aug 24, 2009 11:18 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Why can't other teams have guys with an 80 FB and a 70/75 Curve
Stupid baseball teams!
Haha
That’s what I was thinking. Verlander is everything we hope/dream Feliz will be…including be able to dial up his fastball to 100 when he needs to.
by GhettoBear04 on Aug 25, 2009 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Feliz=Ubaldo Jimenez
Scheppers=Verlander
by TooLegitToQuit on Aug 25, 2009 12:08 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
The Roman Mob
A few “sports writers” like this douche (his name reminds me of the annoying wig salesman from “Goodfellas”) and a larger proportion of fans simply don’t give a shit about the health or safety of players.
They’re the direct descendants of the ignorant baboons jumping up and down in the Coliseum screaming for gladiator blood. They just want to be entertained and damn the consequences. Santana’s a pussy because he won’t get up there and pitch until his arm snaps. Wright’s a pussy because he won’t wobble his way through a concussion. Why? Because I want to be entertained, that’s why!
With “fans” like this, who needs injuries?
by Mister Naxal on Aug 25, 2009 12:12 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Since there's no morning post yet...
…I’ll put this here. It’s from Rob Neyer yesterday, responding to an article by Bill Plunkett:
Well, now Plunkett’s got even more evidence for his case:
"Bobby Abreu is getting a lot of credit as a man of influence.
With the Angels’ offense having one of its most productive seasons ever – showing newfound respect for plate discipline and working counts, in particular – Abreu is getting credit for rubbing off on his teammates."
…
First, the career and 2009 pitches per plate appearance for Abreu’s star pupils: Figgy, Izzy, Aybar and Morales …
Chone Figgins: 3.97/4.20 ()
Maicer Izturis: 3.76/3.82 ()
Erick Aybar: 3.35/3.49 ()
Kendry Morales: 3.61/3.97 ()
Impressive, no? But it’s not just those four. Here are the other Angels with at least 300 plate appearances:
Mike Napoli: 4.31/4.16 (-)
Howie Kendrick: 3.32/3.78 ()
Juan Rivera: 3.44/3.69 ()
Torii Hunter: 3.52/3.72 ()
Gary Matthews: 3.76/4.06 ()
Overall, that’s eight plusses and one minus, with that belonging to Napoli, who’s still one of the most selective hitters on the club.
He goes on to discuss some of the details of reasons for this and decides that it’s probably some combination of their managers preaching more patience and from Abreu’s influence. Or luck. Either way, I think Abreu is a free agent this offseason and I’d love to see him in a Rangers uni in a OF/DH role.
I find it interesting that
in 2008 the Rangers brought in Bradley, a high OBP hitter like Abreu, and the Rangers lead the league in runs/gm. Likewise, with the Abreu and the Angels this year.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
One man can change the way a pitcher pitches to the rest of the line-up
I’ve been saying this all along
DH next season
I like Smoakin’s idea about Thome. He would likely be cheap and he is an OBP monster (career >.400) with the same type of patience that might be contagious.
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
TCU article about Purke
At 11:10 p.m., Schlossnagle received the call.
“We probably didn’t talk 30 seconds,” Schlossnagle said. “He was really, really emotional, because it was really hard for him and his family. It was as much stress as you can possibly imagine.”
by GregoryM on Aug 25, 2009 9:44 AM CDT reply actions
to take or not to take $4,000,000 at 18 years old
“as much stress as you can possibly imagine”
Yeah, right.
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
You'd be stressed out too...
if God was telling you not to take 4 mil.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

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