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Who Goes to Make Room for Chris Davis?

Evan Grant runs through the potential candidates to be dropped from the 25 man roster to make room for Chris Davis, when Davis is activated for today's game.

I'm guessing the move will be to put Andruw Jones on the disabled list.  Evan Grant says that Jones has a hamstring strain he's been playing through, which makes him going to the d.l. and coming back fresh in a couple of weeks the most viable option, I think.  And I can't see the Rangers dropping a pitcher from the pitching staff right now, given the recent struggles and the fact they are about to face a potent Yankee offense.

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I’m guessing the move will be to put Andruw Jones on the disabled list.

Yep.

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Aug 25, 2009 11:54 AM CDT reply actions  

Yep.

Yep.

Hopefully

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Aug 25, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

Hopefully

Hopefully.

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Aug 25, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hopefully

Yep – key word.

Hank is the elephant in the room. When will he disappear?

by inactive lsb user on Aug 25, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

The key word is Yep.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Aug 25, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hopefully

the answer is yep.

Yep.

Hopefully, that is.

by bhudson on Aug 25, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeppers.

The unsigned yep.

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by Parman on Aug 25, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jones looks a little chunky in that picture

08/03/2009 A day that will live in infamy for the rest of the AL West.

by Michael Cave on Aug 25, 2009 11:56 AM CDT reply actions  

No kidding!

Especially for a professional athlete who relies on speed and quickness. I really hope this move happens.

by 3Bagger on Aug 25, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jones looks chunky in every picture

probably been eating those KFC Double Downs.

You just don't sit in a rocking chair, when you've built a revolution.

by Escher on Aug 25, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

It really creeps me out when he does that in the batter's box.

When you see him smiling at the camera as he’s about to swing, it makes you think that it’s not a bit.

But who knows, this guy looks like the Round Mound of Rebound these days ..

Hank is the elephant in the room. When will he disappear?

by inactive lsb user on Aug 25, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I cant help but laugh

my ass off almost everytime hes at bat.. I dont know how the pitcher can concentrate with him cheesin all the time. Thats probably why he takes so many walks now that I think of it. Maybe him and rudy should get everyone doing this.

Testicals. That is all.

by Kdavis on Aug 25, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's one of five Rangers

my wife can correctly identify by their face alone, and it’s just because of that smirk.

Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.

by TheJeezus on Aug 25, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

How many Rangers...

…can your wife identify by their pork swords alone? I’m guessing 15.

by tlt29 on Aug 25, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

lol

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Aug 25, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Depends

Is she going by sight, feel or taste? And are we counting BMac in this lineup, since technically he has a vagina?

Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.

by TheJeezus on Aug 25, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I knew she was Bi!

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by Parman on Aug 25, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

At least

Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.

by TheJeezus on Aug 25, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

at first i thought it was b/c he loved that game like a kid and couldnt help but smile.

now, im pretty sure its b/c he’s on heroin and thats just his junked out grin in full effect.

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Aug 25, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know what the right answer is

but AJones has a .360 obp v LH pitching. Does it make sense to put him on the DL?

With Davis in the line-up back in June, the offense was impotent when facing LH pitching.

Maybe Teagarden / Pudge (who hit well v LH pitching) playing while Salty is gone helps the issue.

I’d send down Borbon (or DL Murphy) and make Hank F / AJones the DH.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 25, 2009 12:12 PM CDT reply actions  

You're right

it would make much more sense to ditch Blalock, but they won’t do that.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Aug 25, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

but Hank’s holding out ont he breakout for now… he’s content with the healthy 190 clip he’s been getting on base with

Must kill Moe. Weeeeeeeee

by Baseball North on Aug 25, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't see the Rangers dropping Jones

or Blalock for that matter. A DL trip for one or the other is the only thing that makes sense (though the Rangers kind of blew it by letting it known that they planned since Sunday that Davis would be coming up)

While we can sit here and point to either of them and say “they’ve been a weight on the club for too long now,” the clubhouse ramifications of dropping two guys who have played significant roles on the club all season – Jones has been a good rebound story (though not as good as the Sammy Sosa saga, which was tarnished by grumpy Jason Botts lovers) considering who he was 5 years ago and where he was a year ago, and Blalock has too long a history with the club.

Come playoff time, if that is an issue, the players will understand taking the best 25 man roster possible, and that roster should not include either Jones or Blalock. But I don’t think you throw anyone onto the curb a week before playoff rosters set.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Aug 25, 2009 12:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Its either Blalock or Murphy to the DL

they cant afford to get rid of a RH bat right now

by blueballlefty on Aug 25, 2009 12:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Jones

Is he really 32?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Aug 25, 2009 12:28 PM CDT reply actions  

in latin american years

I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT

by Jayslick on Aug 25, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I also meant to say

that if Newberg says it’s Jones, it probably is.

More than anybody else, he has a direct pipeline of info to the decision-maker on this one. Newberg was just gushing like a flushed school girl on the podcast whenever he could bring up JD’s name.

OT -

A couple of other podcast notes.

Welcome aboard to Sea Bass. Good voice, lots of enthusiasm but stop being so deferential. I like what you bring to the table so don’t be intimidated when there are obvious points to be debated.

Ted Price – More podcasts are a good but you need “Plus 1’s” or it becomes very stale and I’m a baseball dork who will listen to just about anything having to do with the Great Game and the Rangers.

Why did nobody bring up how this team hit v LH pitching in June and assume that they will hit the ground running to the finish line without any hiccups going forward? You boys helped beat the drum of public opinion on this issue…now what is CD going to do v LH pitching or did your plan get that far?

Hypocrisy points to ajm for saying per Blalock … “It makes me sad to say” . Nary a mention of the 28-19 record with Hank F playing every day.

Newberg also confirmed that Salty was/is “JD’s Boy”. No shit, Sherlock. The playing time doled out to him although he sucked this year was kind of a hint.

And also, no criticism whatsoever at the Ranger FO (and especially Tom Hicks) for taking Purke. Newberg even tried to spin it as a positive!!!!

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 25, 2009 12:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Do you have something against the podcast thread?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Aug 25, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not at all

but it is about to get buried, RM.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 25, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

What I don't get is how

ever since JW started nursing Hank F.‘s ballsack, he’s stopped carrying This Thing.

You’ve completely distracted him, Josey.

by bhudson on Aug 25, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yet the team stopped the June Swoon on a dime

and then went 28-19 when he started playing every day.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 25, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yet the team was in FIRST

when Davis was playing every day.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Aug 25, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

And went 20-9 in the month of May

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 25, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

All points Josey will not comment on

Because it doesn’t fit with his montra of This Thing or JD will just stand down since he is not ready for The Show. But that one glorious day when Nolan came and turned things around.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Aug 25, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually, it's either "mantra"...

or perhaps “mothra”, as in the lame monster that never dies.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 25, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

And this Josey Wales character seems to be making some very valid points as well and taking the smack in stride doesn't he, kchtx?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 25, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know josey you do make some valid points

The problem is between those valid points you make stupid ones and when you are proven wrong you either run and say “I didn’t notice a question asked to me” or you go to your tried and true JD bashing even when it makes no sense in the argument at hand.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 25, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Josey's idiocy

is not playing well in The Room.

by bhudson on Aug 25, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

When Josey makes a "good point"

It is really just a setup to sucker someone into conversation so he can start pumping his bits again.

by bhudson on Aug 25, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 25, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Even when you bitch slap Josey around with facts he just won’t Stand Down.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Aug 25, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's nearly unprecedented

how long he’s been allowed to play while sucking an enormous dick.

by bhudson on Aug 25, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Josey

Still hasn’t provided any proof that the vets in the room don’t respect or like JD.

Been waiting since before the start of the season for an answer to that one.

Officially gay for Neftali Feliz

by RCCook on Aug 25, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because he thinks JD is an idiot and most people here like JD.

And in recont months he has taken to defending Hank Blalock to no end when old Hank has been terrible.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Aug 25, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wondered that too

when I first joined the blog a couple weeks ago. Then I read a couple of this “Josey Whales” comments and it all became so clear to me.

Testicals. That is all.

by Kdavis on Aug 25, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Crystal?

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Aug 25, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also

.143/.491 v LH pitching.

That’s going to become critical the last 39 games of the season.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 25, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Since you brought it up
And also, no criticism whatsoever at the Ranger FO (and especially Tom Hicks) for taking Purke.

I’m still waiting for you to answer my question. Do you believe the Rangers should never draft a player who has signability concerns?

by cstorm15 on Aug 25, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the Rangers should always draft and sign the best players and pitchers they can.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 25, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

So they should only draft players

that they know they can sign?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Aug 25, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Draft and then sign the very best player available to you.

How could that not be crystal clear?

If Strausberg or Smoak is the best available pitcher/player available and he falls to your team, you draft him and then sign him.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 25, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

What if that player asks for a crazy stupid high signing bonus

Should we just wilt to any players demands?

Its not like we only offered chump change to this guy we offered what would have been the 5th highest signing bonus in the entire draft, higher than some guys who were rated higher than Purke.

Your belief is if Strasburg was there we should have just drafted him and given him the 50 million he asked for off the top?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 25, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wasn't Purke the bast player available?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Aug 25, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

You clearly are too stupid to answer a simple question

Do you even understand the concept of signability? Not every draft pick gets signed. Every year, some prospects hold out for more money or go back to school or whatever.

If the most talented player available is a player that may not sign with the team he is drafted by (either because he wants way too much money or may go back to school), then do you draft that player?

You have to choose. Either you prioritize getting the best talent available or you prioritize getting every draft pick signed. You can’t have it both ways. This whole “draft then sign the very best player available to you” mantra is a fantasy, and you know it.

by cstorm15 on Aug 25, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

if what the rumors were true

of Purke’s request around 7, then I definitely think you don’t sign him, especially if he doesn’t come down from that figure. 4M would have been top 6 money for a 14th pick. He wanted too much money. Pitchers are very risky in the first place. You have to weigh some of the risks with the reward. and the risks were too high.

i bet Josey plays poker and loses all his money on the first hand.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Aug 25, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

But if most HS pitchers who have unreasonably-high demands sign anyways...
then I definitely think you don’t sign him, especially if he doesn’t come down from that figure.

How are you supposed to know if he’s going to come down from that figure? If your policy is to take the best talent available, then you draft Purke and hope he decides to settle for a more reasonable, although still very high, number. Purke never did that, but to me that’s a risk worth taking.

by cstorm15 on Aug 25, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think every ML team makes the assumption

that a player will lower his demands a bit once drafted. Not many players ask for a ridiculously high offer and then don’t come down from that at all

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Aug 25, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Josey at poker

I would dream of having him at a poker table.

He wouldn’t lose on the first hand. He’s the guy who knows all of the basics and all of the “common sense” strategy. But he’s also the guy who will get something in his head about you and never let it go. You bluff him on the first matchup, he calls you on it and wins, and for the rest of the night he thinks that you’re holding nothing and just keeps handing you money. By the end of the night, you’ve got all his cheddar, and yet he insists that you know nothing about poker.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Aug 25, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

that would be a better poker description of Josey

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Aug 25, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

How do I lose the "poker game" if the Rangers immediately

begin playing better (28-19) when all the positive changes are made when I said that is exactly what would happen?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 25, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

20-9 in May Josey

20-9

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 25, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

First place until Hank F. began to start

08/03/2009 A day that will live in infamy for the rest of the AL West.

by Michael Cave on Aug 25, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Balls. Mouth.

Hank is the elephant in the room. When will he disappear?

by inactive lsb user on Aug 25, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Herpes.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Aug 26, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Smoak had those same concerns didn't he?

I'm tired of hearing about team chemistry. You are telling me these fuckers wouldn’t like to have a teammate that could actually help the team win, instead of being down 2-4 spots.

by diamond_dave on Aug 25, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Fry Street"

Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.

by TheJeezus on Aug 25, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Man...

the Hardline used to rock.

by Agreen07 on Aug 25, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

Not so much anymore but still better than Grandpa Urine.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Aug 25, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

honestly I think sports talk in this city is awful.

by Agreen07 on Aug 25, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

useless garbage.

is this you’re, “i’m gonna jump on everybody rant.”

is that pot black or what?

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Aug 25, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

x

"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009

by ghtd36 on Aug 25, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I know how to get some OBP into this thing

Frank the Cat with the .374 OBP in 100 at bats this year woo.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Aug 25, 2009 1:32 PM CDT reply actions  

and in the NL.

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Aug 25, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

joking

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Aug 25, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought as much.

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Aug 25, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, let's sign him to another 3 year deal

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Aug 25, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

What the hell...

is up with all the Nellie hate. Wash, Rudy, and now EG?

I just don’t get it.

Why would anyone start David Murphy over Nelson Cruz in a pennant race given how each has played this year? It makes zero sense to me. Also, if you’re going to play Murphy and Borbon why not DH Murphy and put Borbon in LF? Is it just because of his arm? How about the fact that Borbon can cover about twice as much ground as Murphy. Shouldn’t that play a little part into the decision making as well?

What more does Nellie have to do to prove hs is a everday COF? Again look at his splits. He’s hitting better against RH pitching. You don’t sit him in place of Murphy. Period.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Aug 25, 2009 1:50 PM CDT reply actions  

x

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Aug 25, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

In case anyone is wondering, here's the "before" picture:

100 points to the first person to get this reference…

by cstorm15 on Aug 25, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Smurfing good pic...

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 25, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Nellie is traded this offseason

It just seems that something about him rubs too many people in power or “in the know” the wrong way. I don’t get it either – if you ask me there are only 4 guys you need to be in this lineup every day, and Nellie Cruz is one of them. But something about him seems to antagonize this club.

I think it is a shame though, since some team is going to get a very good outfielder for probably not very much.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Aug 25, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even against LHP?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 25, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the people in charge of that kind of decision

value Cruz better than the media guys and coaches.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Aug 25, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

What about this don't you get?
Evan Grant @ August 24th, 2009 at 1:34 pm

@ALL: Got to play Murphy sometime and against a right-hander. It’s either vs. Joba or Burnett. I like the idea of spacing out the lineup with as many lefties as possible against Joba to make Girardi think about when he wants to go to a lefty reliever. ‘Course if you play Cruz against Joba, it probably negates the left-handed relievers altogether. I’m not wedded to Murphy here. Originally had Cruz in the lineup, but thought I’d need to put Murphy in one of the games there. It was either Tuesday or Thursday.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 25, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

" This is the inning that propels us to the playoffs. Mark it down."
- Rohn Warshington on Jul 27, 2009 9:19 PM EDT
5th inning against the Tigers

by gossamer on Aug 25, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really? That's what you took out of that paragraph?

That Grant thinks this is middle school?

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 25, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think so

But I’m going over to inside corner and rant a little bit.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -

"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce

by Ed Coffin on Aug 25, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh. I figured that might in the books...

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 25, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow.
Ed C @ August 25th, 2009 at 2:28 pm

On using Murphy vs. using Cruz. WTH? Hasn’t anyone checked Cruz’ splits vs. LHP? I understand most comments, points of view, etc. and accept those I don’t get but using a RH-LH "who are you facing" rationale is lazy and short sighted. Cruz (as mentioned above) is the second best overall hitter on the roster, the best defensive OF’er based on statistical ranking, the best power bat on the squad, and only (only!) fails against finesse lefty pitchers. I don’t know where the Murphy endorsement comes from, but both Evan and Ron Washington seem to slot Cruz as an afterthought. What is wrong with this picture? Is he too Dominican, should he have gone to Baylor, is there jealousy because he’s a good cook, did he fail to put in six years of apprenticeship to earn his chops, or what? It seems just out of kilter to not put your best power bat against RHP into a middle of the lineup slot against good right hand pitchers.

OK, I guess I need to work on getting more worked up over this. Maybe I haven’t been paying close enough attention. How many games against RHP have the Rangers started Murphy while sitting Cruz this season? Have there been more than I’m remembering?

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 25, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I count 10 games this season in which Murphy's started and Cruz has not.

(That doesn’t include the 15 games Cruz missed on the DL, of course.)

And based on a quick check of the box scores, Murphy’s put up pretty decent stats for those 10 games, overall.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 25, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

cruz

So, is this for real. Is there really a lineup already made that DOES NOT include Cruz? Stupid

by chadallenfan on Aug 25, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Click the link, read the post. That'll explain it.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 25, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

What?

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 25, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Personally, I don't agree with Evan's lineup, no.

But I was responding to chadallenfan’s post above, which appeared to me to ask if that was the official Rangers lineup for tonight.

On Grant’s lineup: I get it; even if I don’t agree with it. I do agree with Evan that it’d be good for the Rangers to find Murphy a chance to break out of this slump in the next several games, and that has to come against a right-hander, because Murphy’s hopeless against lefties.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 25, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

What about this don't I get?

Got to play Murphy sometime and against a right-hander.

No you don’t. Not with Hamilton and Cruz on this team, Byrd as hot as he has been, and Borbon playing the way he has since coming up. Murphy shouldn’t be starting. You don’t sit .266 / .338 / .544 for .260 / .339 / .426. Especially hen Murphy as really struggled lately and Cruz hits RH pitching better than LH pitching. Not to mention Cruz is the better OFer.Cruz is an everyday OFer on this team. Or at least he should be.

Cruz sat 3 or 4 games in a row earlier in the year when he was struggling, so why can’t Murphy do the same?

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Aug 25, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Murphy sits today, it would in fact result in him sitting at least three games in a row.

Would you start him Thursday, then? If not, when do you play him?

I’m not saying I agree with Grant’s lineup, by the way ~ I don’t, but I won’t be terribly upset if Washington’s looks similar. I do think Grant made his reasoning clear, and there’s no apparent hatred of Cruz there. The reaction to his post seems a little overwrought.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 25, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

When do you play him?

When one of the regular OFers needs a day off. That’s what you do with your 4th Ofer.

Byrd has played in 50 something straight games. When he needs a day off against a RH pitcher that’s when I play Murphy. Perhaps that would be Thursday.

You don’t sit Nelson Cruz for David Murphy when you are in a playoff chase. Now isn’t the time to say you have to play everyone.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Aug 25, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Giving Byrd a day off for Murphy makes a lot of sense to me.

Not much foregone there against righties ~ makes more sense than sitting Byrd.

But I still don’t think that makes Grant a Cruz-hater, or renders his position impossible to understand…

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 25, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oops. *Makes more sense than sitting Cruz.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 25, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because, again, I do think it'd be good to get Murphy an appearance

soon-ish, and that it has to come against a right-hander. I just don’t agree with how Grant suggests doing it.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).

by Snark on Aug 25, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

OT. Damn...
3. Jack Armstrong, RHP, Vanderbilt (2011): Vandy’s coaching staff deserves a ton of credit for turning Armstrong into a probable first-rounder for the 2011 draft, since in high school he had a fringy fastball, a violent delivery, and poor body control for a kid with an athletic body. Armstrong is now 92-96 with an above-average changeup, his arm action is short, and he’s much more coordinated. If he develops even a solid-average breaking ball he’ll be a top-five pick.

x

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Aug 25, 2009 2:19 PM CDT reply actions  

What coulda been...

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 25, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Andruw to the DL

per TR

linky

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Aug 25, 2009 2:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Cool

I’m still kinda surprised at that myself. Rudy must be sad.

J.P. can take Roy Halladay and shove him up his ass. I’ll take Derek Holland. - AJM

Rangers can no hit curve ball. Straight ball, they hit it very much. Curve ball, bats are inept.

by LSJ on Aug 25, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

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