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by Adam J. Morris on Aug 26, 2009 9:02 PM CDT
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Stick a fork in...
Jason Jennings.
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
God that was horrible
I’m watching the game at the bar with some friends and they notice Jennings. Everyone being familiar with the Rockies, they make the pointed observation of “your team has a former Rockie on the staff? WTF?” Jesus that was humiliating.
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
Go ahead, AJM.
Defend your boy Jennings again.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
Not like the season is over
There will be a lot more ups and downs. Still sucks though. Especially since the red sox won…and angels.
I just want us to still be in it come later September…please. please please please.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
We will be
As long as someone else besides us or the Yankees can beat the effing Red Sox. They just arent that good.
You know that phrase....
“If you arn’t comfortable using him in that situation, he probably shouldn’t be on the team.”?
Yeah…
But anyway, I don’t even particularly care about putting him into the game though.
That game was 99% done with the yankees 8-9 guys and 2 on none out (even a good reliever likely allows one or both runs to score), two of our late inning guys were unavaiable, and even if Nippert can keep them from scoring too many runs I wouldn’t bet on him going even 5 innings so a full strength bullpen tomorrow will be needed rather than wasting CJ on this game.
Anyway no fork shall be placed in the rangers yet, but they can’t afford to fall much further behind than this. Need a big performance tomorrow.
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You're conceding this game down two runs in the seventh? Really?
Would you do that in the playoffs? Would you run JJ out there in any situation in the playoffs?
Because that’s basically where we are right now.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman, Esq. on Aug 26, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Well JJ wouldn't even be on the team if I had control, so no I wouldn't run JJ out there.
But…
Frankie, Feliz: Unavailable
CJ: Even if you use him while down 2 its probably in the 8th, and it was righties coming up so he wasn’t a great option to come in and K guys to get out of it vs them.
Grilli: Torched last night, looked bad in both recent outings… having pitched yesterday probably better to leave him out of the game too.
Mathis: Marginally better but yeah problably better to go to him first.
O’day: Ok, thinking about it… O’days chances to get double plays or strikeotus to get out of it are probably reasonable. He was probably the right play, and he has been great back to back days and only pitched to 1 guy anyway.
Yea, i probably wouldn’t have put JJ in either, bad decision. I just don’t care that much because the game didn’t look good at that point and regardless of the reliever was probably going to get worse with the 2 on none out situation. Its a silver lining to have everyone good ready to go tomorrow anyway at least.
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ya, O'day is the only guy you can really consider there
but yea, i mean, there really isnt a whole lot to do there.
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
IMHO we should also start thinking about O'Day's IP
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
ah man!
" This is the inning that propels us to the playoffs. Mark it down."
- Rohn Warshington on Jul 27, 2009 9:19 PM EDT
5th inning against the Tigers
I love the Buzz-tan.
Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100. - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
by Cecilio's Guante on Aug 26, 2009 9:10 PM CDT reply actions
The pen has gone from suck...to solid....to now suck again all in a 5 month span.
JJ needs to be on the DL/Waiver wire yesterday. Ron can’t be trusted to use him properly, so he needs to go.
Amen
"We have a better chance to win with other guys in the lineup," said Blalock, who is hitting .190 the past 30 games. "That’s something I’ve got to deal with."
by diamond_dave on Aug 26, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Fuck shit piss
"Former New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer, right, tells his wife, Silda, that you have to pay double for the kind of f*cking Neftali Feliz gave the Yankees at Yankee Stadium in New York, Tuesday, Aug. 25, 2009. (AP Photo/Henny Ray Abrams)" --benmor78 caption on AP picture of Eliot Spitzer and wife at Yankees game.
Douch bag McGee aka Jason Jennings has to be done right?
"Former New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer, right, tells his wife, Silda, that you have to pay double for the kind of f*cking Neftali Feliz gave the Yankees at Yankee Stadium in New York, Tuesday, Aug. 25, 2009. (AP Photo/Henny Ray Abrams)" --benmor78 caption on AP picture of Eliot Spitzer and wife at Yankees game.
I think that's short-changing Mathis a bit
But it’s a legitimate point
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
any numbers of people at OKC
"We have a better chance to win with other guys in the lineup," said Blalock, who is hitting .190 the past 30 games. "That’s something I’ve got to deal with."
by diamond_dave on Aug 26, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions
x
Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100. - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
by Cecilio's Guante on Aug 26, 2009 9:15 PM CDT reply actions
I hope Tropical Storm Danny becomes Hurricane Danny and blows the east coast off the fuckin' map..
Fuckin assholes.
"Former New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer, right, tells his wife, Silda, that you have to pay double for the kind of f*cking Neftali Feliz gave the Yankees at Yankee Stadium in New York, Tuesday, Aug. 25, 2009. (AP Photo/Henny Ray Abrams)" --benmor78 caption on AP picture of Eliot Spitzer and wife at Yankees game.
i love hurricanes
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
So what do you do with Jason Jennings...?
Please allow Adam J Morris to answer this first.
by TooLegitToQuit on Aug 26, 2009 9:16 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Didn't his FIP improve after this game?
That’s got to mean he’s still good to go.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
ahhhhhh what?
"Former New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer, right, tells his wife, Silda, that you have to pay double for the kind of f*cking Neftali Feliz gave the Yankees at Yankee Stadium in New York, Tuesday, Aug. 25, 2009. (AP Photo/Henny Ray Abrams)" --benmor78 caption on AP picture of Eliot Spitzer and wife at Yankees game.
by Pocket Ninja on Aug 26, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Simple.
"Damn right. damn right, great idea or maybe just make the punk his bitch right on the mound so all the christers in the audience can start praying and speaking in tongues and perhaps handling snakes – kind of like the scene in Bruno in the cage fight" –Stuntman Mike, on the idea of putting a hardened criminal on the team as an enforcer, and what it would be like to watch him charge the mound.
"How about during the 7th inning stretch from now on we have mass abortions on the field!!???!! Gritty nom nom nom baby JESUS donkey fuck spectacular!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We can dig up TY COBBS BONES!!!AND USE THEM TO EVACUATE SOME LUCKY FANS UTERUS!!!!" –Section 339, in response to Stuntman Mike
Your solution
is to encourage Jennings to upgrade to Pro? I agree, he hasn’t seemed like a pro lately.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
We have certainly exceeded his bandwidth this season
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Weak, it works for me.
Oh well, fail I guess.
"Damn right. damn right, great idea or maybe just make the punk his bitch right on the mound so all the christers in the audience can start praying and speaking in tongues and perhaps handling snakes – kind of like the scene in Bruno in the cage fight" –Stuntman Mike, on the idea of putting a hardened criminal on the team as an enforcer, and what it would be like to watch him charge the mound.
"How about during the 7th inning stretch from now on we have mass abortions on the field!!???!! Gritty nom nom nom baby JESUS donkey fuck spectacular!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We can dig up TY COBBS BONES!!!AND USE THEM TO EVACUATE SOME LUCKY FANS UTERUS!!!!" –Section 339, in response to Stuntman Mike
I know noone will actually do this
but there are dozens of websites to test if an image can be hot linked. just put “hot link test” into google.
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Thanks.
I’ll keep that in mind. I hit preview before I posted it and I’m sitting here watching Ari Gold do his whole “Get The Fuck Out!” thing on my screen. Oh well.
"Damn right. damn right, great idea or maybe just make the punk his bitch right on the mound so all the christers in the audience can start praying and speaking in tongues and perhaps handling snakes – kind of like the scene in Bruno in the cage fight" –Stuntman Mike, on the idea of putting a hardened criminal on the team as an enforcer, and what it would be like to watch him charge the mound.
"How about during the 7th inning stretch from now on we have mass abortions on the field!!???!! Gritty nom nom nom baby JESUS donkey fuck spectacular!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We can dig up TY COBBS BONES!!!AND USE THEM TO EVACUATE SOME LUCKY FANS UTERUS!!!!" –Section 339, in response to Stuntman Mike
Damn,it's the Ari Gold gif
by TooLegitToQuit on Aug 26, 2009 9:56 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
As I already asked,
Who gets the axe for bringing in Jennings in a close game with runners on base? Jennings is One of, if not THE worse at allowing inherited runners to score in all of baseball. Yet the Rangers brought him in anyways.
down 2 runs
the options were Jennings, Mathis or Grilli. Rosters expeand in less than a week. I certainly hope Jennings doesn’t pitch in another meaningfull inning.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
Mathis or Grilli are 1000 times better than Jennings with runners on
Grilli is done, too, but release either him or Jennings already and call up someone, ANYONE, else.
by Mark from OC on Aug 26, 2009 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah that was Bad nahhh that was f'ing terrible
So we knew we would get 1 handed to us in NY. Hopefully it was tonight. Hopefully we can knock AJ Burnett out early tomorrow. Borbon should lead off every game period. Kinsler need to stay in the 6 hole !
Damn
Nice avatar, who is that chick??
"Damn right. damn right, great idea or maybe just make the punk his bitch right on the mound so all the christers in the audience can start praying and speaking in tongues and perhaps handling snakes – kind of like the scene in Bruno in the cage fight" –Stuntman Mike, on the idea of putting a hardened criminal on the team as an enforcer, and what it would be like to watch him charge the mound.
"How about during the 7th inning stretch from now on we have mass abortions on the field!!???!! Gritty nom nom nom baby JESUS donkey fuck spectacular!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We can dig up TY COBBS BONES!!!AND USE THEM TO EVACUATE SOME LUCKY FANS UTERUS!!!!" –Section 339, in response to Stuntman Mike
yikes, nice catch
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
I love a catcher who hits .194. It is amazing how good our young catchers are.
Now that Tbag is getting the chance to play everyday he is showing that he is clearly ready for the show.
by De Peche Ranger on Aug 26, 2009 9:32 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
dumb
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
We'll show you Obama's birth certificate as soon as you show us Sarah Palin's high school diploma...
by Brian Thomas on Aug 26, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not going to get all on Tea for a relatively small sample, but..
Its certainly amazing how we’ve run through our 4 mlb catchers and can’t get anyone to put up a .300 obp.
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Poll question:
Jason Jennings:
A) Cunt
B) Motherless cunt
C) Should die in a fire
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
We'll show you Obama's birth certificate as soon as you show us Sarah Palin's high school diploma...
D
Nice guy, but needs to stop pitching for us.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
by iorange555 on Aug 26, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
C
Should turn down the remainder of his salary and go pitch for TCU.
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
Or E, even
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
All of the above?
"Damn right. damn right, great idea or maybe just make the punk his bitch right on the mound so all the christers in the audience can start praying and speaking in tongues and perhaps handling snakes – kind of like the scene in Bruno in the cage fight" –Stuntman Mike, on the idea of putting a hardened criminal on the team as an enforcer, and what it would be like to watch him charge the mound.
"How about during the 7th inning stretch from now on we have mass abortions on the field!!???!! Gritty nom nom nom baby JESUS donkey fuck spectacular!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We can dig up TY COBBS BONES!!!AND USE THEM TO EVACUATE SOME LUCKY FANS UTERUS!!!!" –Section 339, in response to Stuntman Mike
Sucked in person, too.
Left in the 7th.
But the new Yankee Stadium is very pretty.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
Bright spots, though...
They flashed Jack Nicholson, Paul McCartney, and Bobby Bacala on the diamond vision. Good stuff…
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Aug 26, 2009 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions
lorne michaels
was also inbetween jack and paul
go here to view my blog: http://dirtfromd.blogspot.com
by studcrackers on Aug 26, 2009 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
My wife
and I were arguing about the nice piece sitting next to Paul.
She thought it was his daughter and I said it was his latest nice piece.
Anybody know the truth?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 26, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
This was the one I had the most hope of winning with Dutch on the mound
I was pleasantly surprised to win yesterday with Mehwood. I don’t have high expectations of Nippert. I guess taking 1 of 3 @ NY isn’t too bad. Winning the series would have been sweeeeeet, though.
The real kick in the nuts is that Boston and LAAA (and probably TB) all won tonight.
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 26, 2009 9:38 PM CDT reply actions
Toronto has tied it up in the bottom of the 9th!
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 26, 2009 9:41 PM CDT reply actions
Popup hit a realllly deep popup!
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 26, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Now Scutara takes a 4-pith walk
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 26, 2009 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions
you should post more.
Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100. - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
by Cecilio's Guante on Aug 26, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
When is the last day to waiver-trade?
by Feliz es bueno on Aug 26, 2009 10:06 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
to be eligible for the playoffs, yes
but actually you can trade up until the season ends
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
just sayin'
Since Ian came back from the DL
lead off
8/17….1-3 BB
8/21….0-3 BB
8/23….1-4 K
8/26….0-4 K
totals….2-14 2BB 2K
other
8/15….2-3 BB, K, HR
8/16….2-3 BB, HR
8/18….1-4 BB, HR
8/19….1-4 K
8/20….1-5
8/22….0-4 2K
8/25….2-5
totals… 9-28 3 HR, 3 BB, 4K
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
by RangerMad on Aug 26, 2009 9:52 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Forward this info to Wash please. Lets get him the JJ info, also.
"We have a better chance to win with other guys in the lineup," said Blalock, who is hitting .190 the past 30 games. "That’s something I’ve got to deal with."
by diamond_dave on Aug 26, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Anybody shocked a mediocre lefty shut us down?
And CDavis looked like he did the first three months of the season v LH pitching.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
no.
You bored?
Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100. - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
by Cecilio's Guante on Aug 26, 2009 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I hate you
And I just started posting comments last week.
by Feliz es bueno on Aug 26, 2009 10:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 8 recs
doesn't take long.
"We have a better chance to win with other guys in the lineup," said Blalock, who is hitting .190 the past 30 games. "That’s something I’ve got to deal with."
by diamond_dave on Aug 26, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
rec
Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100. - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
by Cecilio's Guante on Aug 26, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
missed you last night
Not. You are insufferable. Everyone hates you. EVERYONE. Why keep coming back here with your tired act? Would you do that if this was a bar instead of a message board, where you had to face us?
Why do you keep responding to him with posts like this?
There really is zero difference in JW and the anti-JW crowd.
Interesting. So this loss was all Jennings but no Holland?
Funny what a pass some players get here.
Jennings sucked, but Holland was also his ~5-run ERA 2009 self tonight as well.
Anyhoo, I think we lose tomorrow but win 2 of 3 in Minnesota. Boston sweeps Chicago and takes 2 of 3 from Toronto. That leaves us 3 back (in the loss column) after the road trip… just as I said I figured would be the case before it started.
And I’ll happily take that. Because it will mean we survived a tough stretch (during which Boston had a 10-game home stretch) and then we have this over the first 2 weeks of September:
Texas
TOR (4) (none of which will be Halladay)
@ BAL (3)
@ CLE (3)
SEA (3)
OAK (3)
Boston
@ TB (3)
@ CWS (4)
BAL (2)
TB (3)
LAA (3)
Texas: 11-5
Boston: 7-8
All tied up with 17 games left to play.
Seriously?
Let me explain the differences between Holland and Jennings:
1. Holland pitched better than his line indicates. The Yankees hammer lefties, but aside from the pitch he left up for Posada, he didn’t pitch all that badly. Holland is young, and learning. He’s going to make mistakes. Jennings, on the other hand, is a veteran who should have more pitching “wisdom” under his belt than Holland. Yet he marched right in and gave us no reason to trust him or his experience ever again.
2. Holland is undoubtedly an integral part of this team’s future. What he does now is important, but learning and building for the long term is also important in his appearances. Jennings, to have a future with this club, needs to show something now. And he’s not doing it in any way, shape, form or fashion.
If you can’t see the difference between mistakes by a highly talented rookie starter and mistakes by a mediocre veteran middle reliever, well, I wonder how you found your way to a computer.
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
by WestTxAg06 on Aug 26, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
That's nice that he's a part of the future.
He wasn’t a whole lot better in the present, tonight, though.
Fwiw,We were down 2 when Holland left the game,
We were still down 2 when Jennings replaced Holland. We were down 7 when Jennings finished his only inning of work. FYI fwiw.
by TooLegitToQuit on Aug 26, 2009 10:14 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
LOL. Try reading the posts here before responding.
More than one person defended the start as being “a good game” and “better than the line indicates”.
Well, it was
Jennings shitting the bed/sucking a dick made Holland’s start look a lot worse. Less bed-shitting and dick-sucking by Jennings and Holland would have a 6IP/4ER line, which is a lot better than the Scott Lucas/Newberg Report “disaster start” of ER equaling or exceeding IP.
It really is funny how this guy can do no wrong.
Any other pitcher has a 6.00 ERA game in a loss and they would get trashed for it here.
And as far as inherited runners go, the fairest thing to do would be to at least give Holland one of the runs as it was 2 on with 0 outs. Even very good relievers can’t be blamed too heavily for letting a run score after being handed that on the road against the best offense in baseball.
So you have a 7.50 ERA night. Solid.
Millwood had a 7.94 ERA night last night and I don't seem to remember him getting "trashed for it" here after the game.
Also, since when does “better than it looked” mean the same as “good”?
Holland had 3 straight starts before this with ERA under 2.00
He pitched a good game considering he didn’t have the control that makes him so good. He pitched further into the game than Milly did. If Jennings wouldn’t have sucked so bad Holland would have had a fairly decent line in Yankee Stadium. You’re such a fucking beating.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
Holland made a mistake v Posada but was otherwise fine.
Hairston had a monster ab against him in the 7th and it was time, buddy.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 26, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
6 IP: 7 H, 2 HR, 3 BB...
6 earned runs, 9.00 ERA.
But like I said, it’s Derek Holland so “the line doesn’t tell the story”. As always.
Funny how that works.
Some people here have a really hard time separating future potential from current results, imho.
It's worth noting that...
had Jason Jennings not allowed all his interited runners to score, then Holland’s line would have been 6 IP, 7H, 2HR, 3BB, 4 earned runs. That’s only one run more than a “quality start” line.
He also had four strikeouts.
The point of taking out Holland for a reliever is to keep those runs from scoring.
Even with that selective scenario, that's still a 6.00 ERA game.
When you give up 6 runs you don’t usually win.
But Holland gets credit for the runners for a reason, fwiw. He let them get to 1st/2nd with 0 outs.
A 6.00 ERA looks a lot better than a 9.00 ERA
I didn’t say his line was great or outstanding. I only said his line looks worse than his actual pitching performance because Jason Jennings shit a dick while sucking the bed.
You don't judge a 22 year old pitcher...
by his ERA, especially in one game against the best offense in baseball in a hitters park.
Your argument is lame. Please stop.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Agreed to a point.
You let 22 year olds splash around the pool as long as they can unless they start to drown or are obviously killing your team.
No probs with Holland tonight or this year.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 26, 2009 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions
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That leaves us 3 back (in the loss column) after the road trip… just as I said I figured would be the case before it started.
You are a motherfucking genius. Seriously, you are some combination of Stephen Hawking wrapped around a Mother Teresa. So humble too!
Thanks for coming here and being so even handed, insightful, and pleasant. Really, I appreciate your time.
No problem.
Just putting the freak outs in perspective.
Lot of baseball left in a race clearly going neck-and-neck to the wire.
More bullpen mismanagement (what does the Old School Brother have against Mathis?) and the inability to beat mediocre LH
pitching is and has been our biggest issue.
Chris Davis is not the OBP monster that torches LH pitching that we have lacked all year.
And (horrors) I saw that Salty may be coming back.
The Black Hole Lives Again!!!
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
Why do you ask?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 26, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks John Wiley Price.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman, Esq. on Aug 26, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
The Black Hole
refers to both CDavis & Salty.
Check out their May/June stats and I think they’re still both white boys.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 26, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Davis struck out twice
popped to 3B on a first pitch and got an infield hit on a ball that a dinosaur like Jeter could still field.
There was no progress from Davis v LH pitching and there was a defensive problem on a play at 1B that LSB would have torched Hank for not making.
If Davis can’t hit LH pitching (or should I say, shits the bed with another .143/.491 line) and plays every day the rest of the season, we’re not going to the playoffs.
Need to go 23-14 the rest of the way.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 26, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
Because Davis had so much to do with tonight’s loss.
Clearly, his presence in the lineup was the reason Holland and Jennings gave up so many runs.
Officially gay for Neftali Feliz
Davis
presence in the line-up didn’t cost us the game but he looked exactly like he did the first three months of the season v LH pitching, bleeping horrible.
That’s a really big problem going forward if he is going to play every day the rest of the season.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 26, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions
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On August 8th, 2001Barry Bonds went 0-3 with three (3!) strikeouts. What a stupid worthless player that guy was! (he hit 72 steroid-fueled HR’s that year).
The above is as insane as what you are saying. I know appealing to reason doesn’t work with you, but I’m a slow learner.
Did Bonds throw down a 1 for 22 that season?
A 3 for 44? A 7 for 60?
Bonds probably had an OBP of .600+ that season (off the top of my head) and if he went 0 for 3 one night in 2001, who really cares?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 26, 2009 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions
My bad
Bonds obp in 2001 was .515.
I suck!!!
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 26, 2009 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Sometimes you win by losing
Had to miss the game tonight—glad I did. It’s amazing the different perspective and lack of stress one gets reading about the game, rather than watching it. We needed a gem from Dutch, and once we didn’t get it, the game was over. Good move by Wash to circle the wagons and hold back DOD, CJ, and FF for the rubber game. As Adam said about a week ago, quoting the indomitable Joe Schultz, “Let’s pound some Budweisers and get ’em tomorrow.”
I would have liked to have seen Mathis instead of JJ.
I understand when you’re down 4-2 at The Stadium that it’s probably not going to happen and the need to save the bully but Mathis has been forgotten about and JJennings has been epic fail – OBP may be near .500 against him in August.
BTW, CDavis screwed up a play at 1B as well (Holland later picked Cano off).
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 26, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
If...
Mathis had come in instead of Jennings in the seventh inning and shit the bed/sucked a dick the way Jennings did, I’d still be unhappy but not as mad as I am with Jennings doing it because Jennings always lets inherited runners score.
I would have preferred Mathis as well, but
either way, from the account of the game I read, it didn’t seem like we could score the 3 runs needed to win the game. Anyway, I hope we make our stand tomorrow and win the series—Burnett’s been hot and cold, maybe he’ll still be hungover from the beating the Bosox laid on him last week.
he has been bad all year at that but recently 6 of last 8.
"We have a better chance to win with other guys in the lineup," said Blalock, who is hitting .190 the past 30 games. "That’s something I’ve got to deal with."
by diamond_dave on Aug 27, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions
slighlty over .500
"We have a better chance to win with other guys in the lineup," said Blalock, who is hitting .190 the past 30 games. "That’s something I’ve got to deal with."
by diamond_dave on Aug 27, 2009 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions
ummm
What the hell is up with Jerry Hairston Jr.? When he played for the Rangers he couldn’t even get the ball to the warning track!
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
JH Jr
Was he not conected to some kind of mail steroid thing a couple of years ago.
Brad Penny anyone?
Red Sox need a 40 man spot. Penny doesn’t want to pitch in the bullpen. He can be had for the prorated league minimum.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
At this point I'd at least consider it.
DFA Jennings, move Nippert to the pen, and plug Penny into the rotation. Starting pitching situation would still be about the same and our bullpen would be better.
"Damn right. damn right, great idea or maybe just make the punk his bitch right on the mound so all the christers in the audience can start praying and speaking in tongues and perhaps handling snakes – kind of like the scene in Bruno in the cage fight" –Stuntman Mike, on the idea of putting a hardened criminal on the team as an enforcer, and what it would be like to watch him charge the mound.
"How about during the 7th inning stretch from now on we have mass abortions on the field!!???!! Gritty nom nom nom baby JESUS donkey fuck spectacular!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We can dig up TY COBBS BONES!!!AND USE THEM TO EVACUATE SOME LUCKY FANS UTERUS!!!!" –Section 339, in response to Stuntman Mike
No way
they would give anyone to us, even that piece of crap.
by Feliz es bueno on Aug 26, 2009 10:45 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Read the article.
The Red Sox need a 40-man roster spot for newly acquired reliever Billy Wagner, and Tim Wakefield’s fine performance Wednesday night — seven innings, one run, three hits — should have the club feeling confident about dumping a pitcher. The 31-year-old Penny has a 5.61 ERA and 1.53 WHIP in 24 starts this season and has expressed a lack of interest in joining Boston’s bullpen corps. It’s all specualtion and rumor at this point, but a release or DFAing does make some sense. Keep in mind that he can no longer be traded.
If he’s released or DFA’d then they have no say.
"Damn right. damn right, great idea or maybe just make the punk his bitch right on the mound so all the christers in the audience can start praying and speaking in tongues and perhaps handling snakes – kind of like the scene in Bruno in the cage fight" –Stuntman Mike, on the idea of putting a hardened criminal on the team as an enforcer, and what it would be like to watch him charge the mound.
"How about during the 7th inning stretch from now on we have mass abortions on the field!!???!! Gritty nom nom nom baby JESUS donkey fuck spectacular!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We can dig up TY COBBS BONES!!!AND USE THEM TO EVACUATE SOME LUCKY FANS UTERUS!!!!" –Section 339, in response to Stuntman Mike
We don't really need any more zombies
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
Wash said in the pregame
that he might be available tomorrow.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
Thanks--I think we'll need him
Although, it was good to see Murph end his long national nightmare tonight
Out of hospital and recovering.
Was put under for procedure so may not be available tomorrow.
by Feliz es bueno on Aug 26, 2009 10:46 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Byrd probably shouldn't play until at least Saturday.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 26, 2009 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
comment moderation
I don’t understand why this place doesn’t have better moderation.
Jeff and Matthew at LL don’t allow the kind of nonsense that goes on unchecked from Josey and Texas Dawg.
Their acts take away from the enjoyment of this place, and I completely disagree with Adam’s tolerance for it.
This isn’t a democracy and not everyone has a right to say whatever they want. The quality of this forum should be protected, and moderators can make obvious calls and ban people who are ruining the discourse.
One person threatening to leave, especially someone whose not a core community member like myself, probably won’t change anything. But know there must be dozens of lurkers who probably feel the same, and in the long run you are losing readers and page views by letting this sort of stuff go on.
by alon91 on Aug 26, 2009 10:52 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
What nonsense from Josey?
Be specific.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 26, 2009 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'll be sincere with you for a second
Do you really and genuinely have no idea what I’m talking about?
If you had to guess which nonsense I’m talking about, what would you say?
This
isn’t fucking Lookout Landing.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 26, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Nuance, tball?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 26, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm sorry, lets try this again
I’m being as sincere and genuine with you as I can possibly be: do you really not know what nonsense I’m talking about? If I gave you $10,000 to correctly figure out what behavior it was I was referring to, would you be able to? Or would you be just sitting there scratching your head?
My answers
were sincere and genuine.
Wanna talk about the Great Game?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 26, 2009 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions
you would never act like this in person — which makes you a coward.
go ahead and respond to this so you can get the last word. you win again! (not in life though).
Josey Walnuts can be alright,Dog and his Cornell education or lack thereof can be a beating.
by TooLegitToQuit on Aug 26, 2009 11:13 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
How? Josey Walnuts doesn't parade around GDTs constantly trolling and rooting against the team. (besides Davis)
Can’t believe I’m defending Walnuts.
by TooLegitToQuit on Aug 26, 2009 11:19 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I pulled out of the GDT yesterday
because the temperature of the room was too hot and everybody had lost their shat.
Came back for the post game show for some nice banter (750 replies and counting) and celebration but then showed up again tonight when we lost.
I can also guarantee you that I am one of the biggest fans of the team in LSB.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 26, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions
If it wasn't for
Josey and Texas Dawg, this thread would have about 10 postings.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
And
we’re just talking about the game tonight.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 26, 2009 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
This could not be more wrong.
This site was active last year when this team sucked a bag of shit. The notion that two guys are single(double?)handedly keeping this site from destitution when the team is in the middle of a playoff race is fucking batshit insane.
You know
I try to stay out of this kind of thing, but you’re right here.
I use the troll script (it has two entries in it, first two guesses don’t count). My replacement text is “STFU”. It makes it pretty easy for me to come into a thread, see that about half of it just says “STFU” and scroll on by. It does get old though, because most people just can’t resist the argument.
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08
would you kindly tell me the URL for the troll script?
this is an awful way to deal with this problem, but for some reason Adam has always refused to take control.
This is the exact sort of thing that drove me away from Jamey’s boards after years of loyal contributions there (it was Seven/LBrooks who drove me crazy).
Someone has it linked in their sig
but I forget who. Here is the fanpost about it.
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08
The troll script democratizes...
the moderation process.
I was out tonight, so I haven’t seen what Texas_Dawg was up to. If it’s really bad, then I will ban him again, this time for good.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
it's the same old act it's been every night
and I’d agree that something like the troll script would be a great tool if it was a native SBN feature that was easy to enable and use. In its current form it’s a hack that requires some work and is a niche (although probably very nice) product.
The bottom line in my mind is: there’s no need for you guys to be so forgiving or accommodating to people who are blatant trolls. I’d love to see you moderators take a much more stern policy and ban people for life as soon as they prove themselves to be disruptive trolls.
Normally I don't ban people...
because I don’t want to step on Adam’s toes. Though he didn’t object to Texas_Dawg being put in timeout last night.
I don’t know…. I personally put him in the useless poster category. His bit has evolved from trying to provoke people with racial baiting to parroting Josey’s bits, likely because he sees they get responses.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
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It’s sad — very simply sad — that some people need these bizarre online conflicts to satisfy some need that I don’t at all understand.
I object to that happening at the expense of my time. I’ll use the script since it exists, but as a blog owner Adam should think about the implications to the community and his own reputation which he’s worked for years to build.
I don't think...
Texas_Dawg reflects on Adam’s reputation. I mean, miles doesn’t reflect on his reputation, does he? Or Sharky?
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
At the end of the day I’m not so sure about that. Letting crazies roam around certainly hurts the reputation of the site — LSB has historically been a laughingstock around SBN. I think most of us know it, and I think most of us probably have to admit that the reputation is somewhat merited.
Adam is the one who makes the rules, and I can’t imagine anyone seeing this or any of the other ruined thread this season and thinking more highly of him.
Meh...
Derek Holland didn’t have that bad of a game. Texas_Dawg was baiting people. And people responded.
I just went and looked at the site logs, and no comments in the past two weeks have more than one troll flag applied to them.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
Click on "actions"...
then click on “flag”
It’s the same way you rec a post, and I know a lot of people know how to do that.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
LSB is a laughingstock around SBN?
All the sites have their little quirks. Just around the AL West (all popular sites), I think A’s Nation is hurt by what seem like a dozen moderators, its very cozy attitude towards Beane and strange infatuation with dumb, meaningless comics. Lookout Landing’s harsh enforcements give the place a feel of a strict private boys school where all the kids are uber-repressed and just waiting for someone to do anything at all controversial, act horrified and run to Jeff hoping for a ban.
And Halos Heaven is just a ridiculous joke for reasons that don’t need to go into. At least the crazies here aren’t actually the people who run the site. Or maybe you think posting police suspects addresses online and accusing the league of having biases every time your team loses is actually a way to run a blog well.
Go Rice Owls!
That’s a fair points — we all have our weird issues. Personally, I’m almost always impressed with the quality of dialog at LL, but it’s possible that they’ve gone too far to the point of shutting out some non-trolling voices from the conversation. I don’t follow their stuff enough to really make a call on that.
HH is a bad blog.
I just wish LSB wasn’t so tolerant of trolls. I’m willing to try flagging comments, staying out of the angry responses, and seeing where that gets us.
LL is far from repressed
They’re like the super-exclusive private school where all the kids amuse themselves by trying to outdo each other with their own rankness and farce, yet get extremely snobbish toward outsiders.
LSB’s closely-nit group of regulars has kind of trended that way in the past year or so as well, as the expansion of the site has brought in a virtual conveyor belt of horrible posters. I think that’s pretty much how LL got to the point they’re at, myself and sometimes Adam’s tolerant policies are pretty much one of the few things that separates us from LL these days.
That said, you have to draw the line somewhere, and when you’ve got two entitiees such as TexasDawg and Josey (and Finnerty has trended this way as well), who have proven over a pretty large sample size that they live simply to shit all over the site, you’ve got to drop the hammer.
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
Oh, I consider myself one of the more snobbish LSBers.
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
Also, LL
has some of the best written, technically savvy baseball discussion anywhere bar none.
I only wish the analysis covered the Texas Rangers, but it is still a daily read for me in spite of not caring a whit about thier team.
LL's writers
Jeff and Matthew, are phenomenal. I really enjoy reading their analysis of things. It can be a little stat-obsessive, even for me, but they’re good. I can’t read the comments though
Go Rice Owls!
Josey falls into...
“Crazy Old Uncle” territory. Crazy, but ultimately harmless. You, on the other hand, are just oboxious with no real redeeming qualities. Why do you want to stay here, and you spend a considerable amount of time posting, if you’re universally disliked? Are you just trying to provoke a reaction?
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
You ever seen how an 8 year old responds...
when you say they’re just doing something to get attention?
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
Yep Josey has a severe man crush on Hank, BUT
How boring would it be around here without him and his crazy mixed up views of one bad player.
Larry Parrish Was Da Man!
My take
was that the team would be better off with Hank F playing instead of CDavis – and I was right.
Can the team play better than 28-19 the rest of the season without him? I honestly don’t know however, if CDavis throws down another .143/.491 v LH pitching while playing every day it will be time to get out the forks.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 27, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
I remember LSB pre-Josey
We got along just fine.
What IS boring as hell and has been for some time is the mindlessly repetitive to and fro that threads devolve into when he cries out for attention.
And TR sucks, by the way.
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
We'll show you Obama's birth certificate as soon as you show us Sarah Palin's high school diploma...
by Brian Thomas on Aug 27, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
LSB pre-Josey
was a much, much, much better place.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
lol
It’s not just lurkers. Some of the people who have been here longer than just about everyone (not me, but tricer and Cahill in particular) have voiced their displeasure at the apathetic nature the mods have adopted regarding Josey and the legions that take the bait. It’s an annoyance for me only because I view this site on an iphone most of the time, so it’s slightly harder to filter out the nonsense.
What I find hilarious is that AJM discourages people from arguing with Josey on the AM threads (as if there’s something sacred about the AM threads), but he himself takes just about every opportunity to engage in circular debate with him everywhere else on the site.
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And while I don’t post a ton, I’ve been at LSB since day one (UID: 36, thank you very much).
With the Rangers having a good season, these problems have exacerbated. I pretty much know Adam’s stance on moderation (he won’t do it unless it’s racism or something along those lines) and I couldn’t agree with him less on that point.
The best message boards are sternly moderated. Note this does NOT mean there are no disagreements, all groupthink (aka “lockstep”). It’s quite the opposite in fact, it’s just done in a cordial, respectful and sensible way.
Not to speak for Adam...
but there’s the school of thought that if you don’t think someone contributes, you don’t respond to them. I know he feels that way about someone over at NMLR (um, starts with “w,” ends with “ufdog.”).
If everyone who thinks Texas_Dawg makes a negative contribution here didn’t respond to him, he’d eventually get bored and go away.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
well yes
after causing how much damage to the community? After ruining how many threads? After how much of this really exciting season is over?
Or Adam can take a proactive approach and keep his site a place where smart fans have well informed, respectful discussions.
Tonight in this thread I saw almost no analysis of Holland’s performance. No discussions on what Davis looked like (aside from the obvious troll bait in question). It’s because instead I (and others) got dragged into a shit flinging session with those idiots.
Adam is a libertarian by inclination.
The troll script is the ultimate libertarian solution to the issue.
I’m honestly baffled by Texas_Dawg’s presence here. 3000 comments with no real purpose but provacation.
But use the troll flags on the comments, I will start making an effort to do something when flags start piling up.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
Yeah...
anybody that feels there’s trolling going on, use the troll flags, people. I can access those in the site logs and then I can do something.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
I might actually take TD off my troll script...
Just so I can flag the ever loving shit out of him.
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
well do it just where appropriate
we don’t want to abuse the troll flag.
(the good/bad news is that just about every TD comment is flag-worthy)
Yeah...
Reading his comments is like watching Ian Kinsler pop up. Grating.
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
i disagree
i prefer more relaxed boards to strict, i post on several sports message boards and some are great where you can talk about anything and others you make just an off color remark trying to get a laugh and you get a warning or a suspension.
that said i cant stand trolls, particularly outsiders coming on our turf. but i am also in the belief that texas dawg and josey take it to far. josey’s ok at times but then other times it’s not even funny that he’s trying to provoke a response.
go here to view my blog: http://dirtfromd.blogspot.com
by studcrackers on Aug 27, 2009 2:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
First, AJM is not exactly innocent in the “why every thread degrades to an argue with Josey thread” problem. And I am 100% sure that the problem is the people responding to JW, not JW himself.
I find nothing particularly offensive about Josey. He’s opinionated and stubborn, like many of us here. The difference is that most people when called a moron (fair or not) for their statements, they quietly move on; Josey just argues back with the same original logic. And the same people go back and repeat the whole process. At least JW is actually trying to make an argument (silly though they may be at times) and not trying to lay straw man logic traps and make 8th grade insults.
There is enough strong discussion points that people here shouldn’t be trying to debate with those people whose views they don’t respect. A fool may say dumb things, but only a fool gets upset about what another fool says.
Go Rice Owls!
one point I'd disagree on
the problem are incendiary posts, created not to further the discussion but to start really distracting and useless fights.
Blaming the abused mob for reacting angrily after months of these assaults is not fair. You should treat the problem, not the symptoms of the problem.
you
hijacked this entire thread/post. Please move along….
Post.Fail.
by red shoe ranger on Aug 27, 2009 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions
I should clarify...
LSB doesn’t have “mods.” I have moderation rights, zywica has moderation rights, Adam has moderation rights.
But, for instance, I’m not tasked with moderating the site. Neither is zywica. I’d suggest using the troll flags on the comments. I’ll start paying attention to them and I’ll talk to Adam about enforcement.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
np, I think he's a douche, too.
and when I typed that, originally, I made a typo that said “I think he’s a deuce, too,” like a poop.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
Disagree
The end game here would seem to be to run off anyone who doesn’t conform to the group think of most posters. I find the comments by Josey interesting even if I don’t agree all the time. A lot of the time I do agree, particularly with respect to Wash being a weak manager and JD being a weak GM. I also felt that the team was not going to contend this year and am, thankfully, wrong on that account.
I think people do have a right to say what they want unless it violates some basic standards, such as outright racism. A lot of posters here go into attack mode pretty fast when someone dares to challenge the conventional wisdom of the room. It’s just a baseball blog and if you run off all the people you disagree with it’s going to be one really boring site.
Foolish consistency is the hobgobblin of little minds - Emerson
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if you run off all the people you disagree with it’s going to be one really boring site
We don’t want to run off all the people we disagree with, just the ones incapable of having rational discourse. Like Josey.
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
Doesn't seem that way
I try to post thoughtful comments, I just don’t agree with a lot going on in Rangerland. When I have made comments in agreement with JW I often get replies suggesting that “we get a room” or other demeaning attacks that do not address the issue/comment. However, I’ve also had a few good lengthy exchanges about the organization that were pretty interesting and insightful, so I keep coming back. I guess I am inclined to respect JW (again don’t agree with a some of his opinions) because I know that he, like most of us in here, is a hard core Ranger fan and supporter.
Foolish consistency is the hobgobblin of little minds - Emerson
I am easily among the top 10 most knowledgable posters on this site
in regards to this Ranger team and past Ranger teams. Within that top 10, there is no number one because this is major league baseball – nobody knows everything but several of us know quite a bit and make no mistake, I am within that inner circle of knowledge.
I don’t have a direct pipeline to the Ranger GM office but that’s a good thing because once again, I don’t owe him anything.
When he screws up I don’t have to make excuses for him and my criticism of him is passionate because he’s in bed with the DMN and several other (not ajm) influential opinion-makers in DFW.
I’ve been accused of being a troll, yet I was the person who defended MYoung, Blalock, Nolan, Teagarden, Kinsler and several other LSB whipping posts. Is that a troll or somebody who simply isn’t in lockstep with the rest of the room?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 27, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Wow
Let’s fix this post:
I am easily among the top 10 most knowledgable posters biggest egos and most obtuse posters on this site.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
Fix fail...
I am easily among the top 10 most knowledgable posters biggest egos and most obtuse posters on this site.
If you want some slack, bring your own rope.
by rangerfaninva on Aug 27, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
You guys laugh at this.....
but I would put my money on Josey in a second to go up against the rest of the folks on this site about the history of the Rangers. Top 10 is a no-brainer.
Let's hope the second half will be as good as the first half has been.
History, yes.
But so what. Anyone who has been following the Rangers for many years knows their history. Congrats on managing to watch a lot of baseball games, great accomplishment.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
Someone with Josey's analytical skills and irrational thinking
could research the rangers 24 hours a day for years, attaining an encyclopedic knowledge of every roster move ever made…. and their opinions would still be awful.
Sure he’s a good rangers fan in various meanings or the word. But that doesn’t make him right.
the preceding post was a great success.
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I guess I am inclined to respect JW (again don’t agree with a some of his opinions) because I know that he, like most of us in here, is a hard core Ranger fan and supporter.
Congratulations, you just joined Texas_Dawg as the second Josey Wails supporter in history. Don’t ever expect to be taken seriously on this site again.
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
You make my point for me
Foolish consistency is the hobgobblin of little minds - Emerson
by RangerEddie on Aug 27, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions
You just put yourself in marching line the most batshit crazy guy on the site man
Which almost certainly means you’re either a bit, or batshit crazy as well.
I guess it could also mean you don’t actually read LSB like ever and have no clue what the fuck you’re talking about, but I find that too hard to believe.
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
Again, you make my point for me
Foolish consistency is the hobgobblin of little minds - Emerson
by RangerEddie on Aug 27, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
You are completely mischaracterizing/not comprehending Alon's position
That isn’t the end game at all, but I don’t care enough one way or the other to get down in the weeds w/ you about it.
I did find this curious:
A lot of the time I do agree, particularly with respect to Wash being a weak manager and JD being a weak GM. I also felt that the team was not going to contend this year and am, thankfully, wrong on that account.
Thankfully, you are just as wrong in your assessment of JD.
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
We'll show you Obama's birth certificate as soon as you show us Sarah Palin's high school diploma...
by Brian Thomas on Aug 27, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
reply fail FTL
oh well, I’ve found my new sig.
by JimCrankshaft on Aug 26, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't know if it was written above
Didn’t see it in what I’ve read so far.
But kudos to David Murphy today. People were none-too-happy that he was even playing against a tough lefty like Pettite. And he was just about the only Ranger who didn’t look completely overmatched out there.
Go Rice Owls!
he had to play
since Marlon was out. I am just glad Wash didn’t bat him 3rd. :)
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
world cup
Is Luis Mendoza playing for Mexico in the World Cup? I believe he is on thier preliminary roster.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
Pedro Strop is in NYC
According to EG at InsideCorner.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
Really???
Jennings to the DL?
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Aug 27, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions
No Roster moves yet.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Aug 27, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions
newberg saying
According to multiple local reports, Strop’s contract will be purchased this morning and he’ll be in uniform for today’s series finale in New York. One report indicates that "Texas has not announced a corresponding roster move, however, they could do something with RHP Jason Jennings before the start of this afternoon’s game." Another report suggests Jennings could be headed for the disabled list.
by P1 on Aug 27, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd stash as many as I could on the DL...
if Jennings is healthy he may have something to offer… same with Grilli, Jones, and Blalock.
Jennings has nothing to offer, healthy or not
he is not good.
by eric03tx on Aug 27, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
DL
that opens a 25 man spot, but not a 40 spot.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
only 39 again?
Damn I missed that last time there was a 40 man addition too!
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
What a trip...
He’ll have his contract purchased today…
http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/08/pedro-strop-on-his-way-to-rangers-1.html
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Aug 27, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Too awesome.
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
I agree
Lot of upside with this guy, and he’s trending well.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Aug 27, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Jennings in August
Batters have .475 obp and 1275 ops v him.
He’s been horrific since June and should not be on this team. Bringing him into that game at that time was among the dumbest things Washington has ever done if his goal was to win the game.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
I would rather they DFA Jennings
than put him on the DL
by eric03tx on Aug 27, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe
JJennings is gassed and could use a couple of weeks off?
I doubt it because he was so bad for so long but this isn’t April and there’s a chance we may need some innings soaked up in late September. He should not be permitted to pitch in another situation like last night until he has several good outings in a row with no hiccups.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 27, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions
The only time he would be useful is
late innings of a 5 run or more lead, against any team not named New York or Boston. Aside from his rookie year, and 2006, the guy has had a pretty subpar career.
Jennings is only speculation at this point.
But the pundits were right on about Jones going to the DL, so I assume Jennings will be there by the end of the day.
Video of him pitching
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Aug 27, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Looks a little like neftali
maybe our big hope is making everyone freak out that we have two Feliz’s…. or might he be the vaunted Neftali Perez?
The first time I saw him pitch in Frisco this year, I thought they'd sent Neftali down
They look so much alike to me (at least from a distance)
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Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
the NL and the Padres will do that for you...
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Aug 27, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
He wasnt terrible with Florida either
I’m not saying he is going to be lights out, but lets see how Nippert fairs today.
Meh.
Who knows. Fat guys who don’t K nobody don’t do much for me.
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
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The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Aug 27, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Inside Corner sez Jennings DFA
Not sure if anybody posted it.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
cya JJ!
you had a pretty good couple of months there.
very electrician like.
the preceding post was a great success.
Sorry, but no.
The Electrician wasn’t as bad as JJ.
Let’s not be that cruel.
What I don't understand is why the Old School Brutha
would go to Jennings in that situation if Jennings was one bad outing from getting his fat ass DFA’d.
Surely, that move didn’t play well with Thadwick & JD.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 27, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Personally would have preferred to see Mathis there
But maybe he was anticipating the need for multiple innings from him today depending on Nippert’s performance. Once it was out of hand, I’m not sure why you don’t send Jennings out there for the 8th as well if that was the thinking (instead of using Mathis for an inning).
Maybe a subtle message to the FO? Here’s what I have to use. If you don’t like it, give me another option. Although that’s probably reading too much into what actually occurred. Bullpen decisions are easy to second-guess, in retrospect.
Bullpen management this month (especially the last two weeks) has been our
biggest problem.
Going to Frank2 in a back-to-back situation killed us v the Bosox and then he left him out there when it was 5-4 and that killed any chance to mount a comeback (I view that as two mistakes in judgment in the same game).
Leaving both Millwood & Feldman in games too long v. Minnesota last week where the team lost despite having huge leads in both games.
Bringing in Really Grilli to the Tampa game with DMathis available.
Bringing in JJennings last night was inexcusable and unacceptable.
He got away with bringing in Grilli to face the MF Yankees on Tuesday but it was a terrible decision.
Baseball Prospectus said his bullpen management is his biggest weakness and we’re seeing that weakness in full display the last couple of weeks.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 27, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Good riddance
a reliever who allows most of his inherited runners to score isn’t exactly a bigtime piece of the bullpen.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
OT
Good Nomar Garciaparra article in the WSJ of all places. I read it in hard copy, don’t know if it can be found online…
We are such massive underdogs (with Nippert pitching) today and the bookies agree.
To win $ 100 on the MF Yankees you need to wager $ 250.
I’d consider it a morale victory if Nip Nip Wiener’s runs allowed / innings pitched numbers are even.
If he pitches 5 innings and gives up 5 runs, I’d bank it and hope our bats and bully can save the day.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 27, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Davis back to hitting 8th
When do the training wheels come off?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
I'm more worried about when the training wheels come off for borbon
What do voluntary mean?
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