Sickels' Top 20 Pre-Season Prospect Review
by RangerRedCaps on Aug 28, 2009 6:53 AM CDT
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http://www.minorleagueball.com/2009/8/28/1004386/texas-rangers-top-20-pre-season
No surprises here other than the new RHP, Wilmer Times New Roman Font.
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Rangerland had been overrating Font for a while now.
Nice prospect. The kind of arm every organization wants in their system. His age gives everyone hope that he’ll develop into something special (ala Engel Beltre). Is he the #3 guy in a loaded Rangers farm system? I don’t think so.
He throws as hard as Feliz
With a promising curveball. He needs to develop some better control, but he’s getting there and is a whole lot more than just the pitching equivalent of Beltre.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
He doesn't throw as hard as Feliz
As I recall, Dirk reported him throwing 93ish when he went to a Hickory game.
Just one game though
Even Dirk would tell you that his scouting report on him was for just one game and could be just a rough day or seeing an unfinished product.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
And it's not like Font hasn't been clocked at significantly higher than 93
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
by WestTxAg06 on Aug 28, 2009 8:57 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
He pretty much does
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
We'll show you Obama's birth certificate as soon as you show us Sarah Palin's high school diploma...
by Brian Thomas on Aug 28, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
I've seen him pitch 8 times or so
and he doesn’t throw as hard as Feliz and his fastball doesn’t miss bats like Feliz’s does.
by ncrangerfan on Aug 28, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Font is capable
of throwing 100 mph, but it seems he usually works at a speed less than Feliz.
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Feliz....
…typically works in the 94 to 97 range. I’m sure Font can bring it when he wants to.
by Bats and Balls on Aug 28, 2009 12:31 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Well, he throws harder than anyone else in our system (other than Haps)
How many 18 year olds are there on the planet that hit triple digits?
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
We'll show you Obama's birth certificate as soon as you show us Sarah Palin's high school diploma...
by Brian Thomas on Aug 28, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Driving or throwing???
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Ding ding ding.
Hank is the elephant in the room. When will he disappear?
by inactive lsb user on Aug 28, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Here's my point
When Feliz was 19, he was a very impressive pitcher. He was sitting in the 93-96 range in short bursts and could touch 98 when he needed it. His control was suspect and his secondary offerings were below average. He showed promise, especially with his fastball, but he was a short-season thrower that lacked polish.
Font started this season as an 18 year-old in full season ball. His secondary pitches, which were almost completely non-existent two years ago, have started to show promise, and his fastball, while not thrown with 1/2 inning short burst velocity, still sits in the low-mid 90s with room for growth. I have witnessed Font throwing 98-100 mph in one inning pops and I feel confident saying that his fastball has the potential to be a true 80 as well. However, at this point in his development, Font seems to be sacrificing some fastball dominance in order to further develop his overall arsenal. He could be special.
and trading him this winter
as someone above suggested, would be pretty stupid unless the return is very special.
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That would force me to kick an old man down a flight of stairs
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
We'll show you Obama's birth certificate as soon as you show us Sarah Palin's high school diploma...
by Brian Thomas on Aug 28, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Right
Trading Font now doesnt make much sense. Despite having the tools to develop into something special, as it stands now, Font is just a hard throwing 19 year-old in A ball that flashes promise. I dont think he has much value on his own.
Font is going to have some developmental hurdles in the next few seasons. It’s going to happen. We just need to be patient with these kids. I think Rangers fans have been spoiled the last two seasons with brilliant pitching breakouts, and as a result the bar is set too high for the rest of the arms. I do realize that people like me set that bar high by using words like “special” or “perfect” or “Michael Main is the next Jesus Christ”, so I understand the hypocrisy involved. Just sayin’..
Agree completely about us being spoiled a bit
especially last year. We really shouldn’t expect nearly every prospect to improve by leaps and bounds each year.
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Amen.
Trading Font now doesnt make much sense.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Beware 2011: The Fortypocalypse is Nigh...
by thedirkatron on Aug 28, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions
But
Isn’t that what ML GM’s in J.D.‘s situation do? Trade away young guys who they’ll likely never see contribute at the ML level in order to keep their velvet-rope jobs?
Hey Parksie
As an aside, if I told you that I heard that Kyle Ocampo was sitting 93/94 and touching 97 out of the SPO pen would you call me crazy?
Not necessarily
I would question it, but only because I havent seen him throw that hard in person. I had readings on him last season in the 88-91 range, but that was as a starter. I dont have a reading on him in Spokane. I’ll ask around.
By the way, Ovispo De Los Santos laughs at that velocity. That kid throws very, very hard.
So, (and not to sound like dumb over-zealous homer guy)
One may make the argument that Font is a smidge ahead of where Feliz was at the same age. Or perhaps the org has learned a little about grooming these guys – having Font dial back his velo to augment control, while ramping up the development of his secondary pitches.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
He's exactly the kind of guy I'm hoping we package for a big offseason move
by Sherman McCoy on Aug 28, 2009 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions
He's underrated right now
if you’re going to trade him, wait until mid year next year or the year after, when he is touted as the next Feliz, league-wide
last offseason
he was underrated because of his absense. This year I don’t think actual FO guys on other teams would underrate him because he doesn’t show up high enough on blog rankings.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Thing is, I don't know how you can rate Font 18th
And have Engel “the little Blalock” Beltre 7th.
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
Remember its preseason rankings
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
well, this is preseason, remember?
And I can undsertand the rationale that toolsy pitchers are less likely to succeed than toolsy outfielders.
Go Rice Owls!
Plus
Font was coming off a season where he missed basically the entire season with a mystery condition whole Beltre had a solid season leading the MWL in hits as an 18 year old
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 28, 2009 11:18 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Pfffffftt.
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
We'll show you Obama's birth certificate as soon as you show us Sarah Palin's high school diploma...
by Brian Thomas on Aug 28, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
I had him 28th after last season
lots of reasons to be down on him, and I honestly was close to giving up on him. He had some physical issues and some mental immaturity to overcome and he’s done a great job of doing all of that in one year. He’ll be way up there after this season, but I don’t think anyone was way high on him after last year’s disaster.
Could you be more specific?
Everyone gives these cryptic comments about his behavior last year, but nobody can really pinpoint it objectively [publicly?]. It’s just bizarre.
Hank is the elephant in the room. When will he disappear?
by inactive lsb user on Aug 28, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep, the Newberg blew me off when posed that question earlier this yr
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
We'll show you Obama's birth certificate as soon as you show us Sarah Palin's high school diploma...
by Brian Thomas on Aug 28, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
If I blew you off, sorry about that.
But Font’s issues last year attracted a whole lot of speculation, and everything I heard was second-hand or worse. I didn’t (and still don’t) want to pass things like that along without the org or mainstream media stamp on it.
by Jamey Newberg on Aug 28, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
No worries, that's a good reason
I drove down to Hickraw to ask Wilmer about it myself, but he just kept shouting something about pinche gringo stalkero, pinche guero loco, stay 500 feet away, etc., you know how these latins do, gibberish gibbeish blah blah.
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
We'll show you Obama's birth certificate as soon as you show us Sarah Palin's high school diploma...
by Brian Thomas on Aug 28, 2009 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Very curious who you were discussing on the LSD message board…?
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Aug 28, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
x
Eric Hurley, RHP, Grade C+: His arm fell off.
Poor fella.
Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100. - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
I remember a time when Hurley was the only hope this organization had!
Wow how time flys.
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
Hurley and Max
are those the only injury issues on that list?
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
Oh, and Main's lupus.
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
Where's George Costanza when you need him?
LUPUS, IS IT LUPUS?!?!?!
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
by WestTxAg06 on Aug 28, 2009 8:58 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Smoak and Boscon both had strained obliques.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Aug 28, 2009 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions
and Beltre broke his hamate bone.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Aug 28, 2009 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions
and Wieland had a strained groin.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Aug 28, 2009 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions
So is Vin DiFazio Italian?
Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100. - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
No he is Japanese-Irish
From what I have heard.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
thought that was scotch-korean
What do voluntary mean?
Scotch?
Korean drink Soju, not scotch.
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 28, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
So what ju gonna do about it :-)
What do voluntary mean?
When Koreans are at the club
and getting hammered, do they get out on the dance floor and do the Soju-boy?
Persian
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Beware 2011: The Fortypocalypse is Nigh...
by thedirkatron on Aug 28, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
going into next year
Andrus, Hunter, Holland and Teagarden bump off. Too early to tell on Feliz and Borbon. I don’t see anyone on that list falling completely off the top 20 besides Hurley. So who are the 5-7 names that will jump on (keeping in mind Sickels’ MO, which means to Profar types)?
I’d guess Mendonca, Moreland, Tim Smith, Pimentel and obviously Scheppers if he signs, and then maybe Strop and Erlin or Telis, depending on how they finish, if we need two more.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Moreland, Smith
are no brainers to me, along with Scheppers if he signs, Tullis, maybe Telis, Pimentel, Zach Phillips, Bleier, Garcia, Mendonca. Then of course, there are a whole host of lower level arms, literally a dozen or so that deserve consideration in the top 30.
Moreland might make the top 10 on most lists of Ranger prospects this winter.
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As well he should
Just because he’s blocked in our system doesn’t mean he’s not a legit prospect. Dude has proven it at Double A, and should thus be considered legit.
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
if a guy can hit
he isn’t blocked in this system.
Toolsy guy
spoken highly of by the front office, why not? I didn’t say he should make the top 10, I said he deserved consideration for the top 30. You’re going to say “really?” for someone deserving consideration for the top 30?
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There is a space in my username.
If we can drool over pitchers with stuff, we can also think highly of shortstops with tools. He’s top 30 or at least in the tier of players that would be in that range.
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I don't think he's a top 30 guy, even in consideration.
You have to at least see ball-hit ball to be in the top 30 of a solid system like ours. He’s well, well, well below-average hitting, and his fielding still isn’t spectacular, just good. He needs to show me he can at least OBP .300 and SLUG .300 before I even think about him as a prospect at all. Age or not.
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I see you point
but people who have seen him play say the tools are legit, and the system has a ton of players with lots of potential but very little in the way of performance to date. Any guy in this system you can argue for at 30 can be argued against just as easily.
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There aren't a lot of guys with a line of Garcia's in our system.
Most of them haven’t been thought of twice. If you can’t hit A ball pitching, then you can’t hit. To be a top 30 product in our system, I at least ask that you be able to hit decently well in A ball. That’s not much to ask. I’d take Matt West and his crappy defense over Garcia on a prospect list right now, and I don’t think West is really in the conversation for top 30, either.
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Yes.
I think he’s more of a back end of the top 30 kind of guy, but those defensive tools are pretty drool worthy.
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by thedirkatron on Aug 28, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Murphy may drop off after the season he's had
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 28, 2009 11:19 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
forgot about Tullis
he could be in the mix.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Yay!
I was just about to ask about him.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Aug 28, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought his name was Wilmer Wingdings Font
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 28, 2009 10:53 AM CDT reply actions
For some reason
That always makes me hungry.
Hank is 7 runs below a zombie replacement at first base. Do you realize how terrible that is? Zombie’s can’t think, they’re slow, and they’re often ejected from the game for eating opposing baserunners’ brains. - Ben quantifies Hank Blalock
Holland didn't get nearly enough love in this
Sickels must not have watched his recent starts
4 wins and a sub 3 era in the last month, with almost 2 complete game shutouts
i kinda
doubt Sickels watches much Major League ball. i am sure he just looked at his overall stats when he was writing this up.
i am sure he would say AJ Burnett is one of the top pitchers this year, based on the years stats. but the dude is 0-4 in 6 August starts with a 6 ERA.
by mo on Aug 28, 2009 12:01 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Lol -- you bash him for looking at stats, then you proceed to cite the most ambiguous ones available as proof that a small sample has meaning.
Hank is the elephant in the room. When will he disappear?
by inactive lsb user on Aug 28, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
this was an amazing comment
"You'll meet them again on their long journey to the middle." -Lester Bangs
See, and I was trying to be nice
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Somebody tell me why...
Perez is only 10 on that list?
by Bats and Balls on Aug 28, 2009 12:32 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
It's a preseason list
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"-Wayne Gretzky"-Michael Scott
by ReallyCreativeScreenName on Aug 28, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
He’s still pretty dispassionate about the player in the current writeup…
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Aug 28, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
preseason review
Perez would be higher now
What do voluntary mean?
Wow...
My recollection is that Perez was universally ranked higher than that in this preseason? He’s been a known commodity for a while. And it does sound like Sickels is all that impressed with the kid, even today.
by Bats and Balls on Aug 28, 2009 1:32 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Is there any reason to not be impressed?
Because I sure can’t think of one.
"You dont know much do you, Big Steve?"
--Finnerty.Fan on Aug 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
He hasn't hit very well this year.
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Beware 2011: The Fortypocalypse is Nigh...
by thedirkatron on Aug 28, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Sickels is always tougher on the young guys in the lower levels
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
no
i was meaning that he just looked at stats, not that Holland being so young, it looks like he is putting it all together much earlier than most anticipated. just stating that Burnett was one of the best pitchers for 3-4 months but horrible the past month when you need guys playing well. kinda like jennings. did he suck this year. not until after AS break. for NY to go deep in playoffs, their pitching needs to improve. they are a very beatable team right now.
you need guys playing well at all times of the year. not just now.
Hank is the elephant in the room. When will he disappear?
by inactive lsb user on Aug 28, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Teagarden
Amazing how high everyone is on Tbag. All I hear Is he would be great if he had more playing time. Well, there is a reason he didn’t play much and that is because he sucks. Now he is playing everyday and still sucks…
by De Peche Ranger on Aug 28, 2009 1:24 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
It's not like Salty's been much better...
Give them each a full season of starting and Teagarden would probably be better as an overall package. Their bats have been pretty much even and Teagarden’s defense has been much, much better. I’d take Teagarden over Salty.
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But HAS Teagarden's D been better this year??
Based solely on observation, I’d say Salty has caught up to him, this mini-Steve Blass outbreak notwithstanding.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Please stop perpetuating that JWails myth.
It is TOS affecting him, nothing other.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
I know, I was just putting a (apparently not) clever tag on his recent struggle..
I wanted to nip that in the bud so no one countered with his throwing diffculties as a sign his D was bad this year.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Gotcha
No worries.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Saltalamacchia has improved, but not that much
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
We'll show you Obama's birth certificate as soon as you show us Sarah Palin's high school diploma...
by Brian Thomas on Aug 28, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Defensive stats are weak at this position..
But their fielding pct is basically the same, and TT has twice as many passed balls in just over half the innings. TT is throwing better it seems, but that’s it, IMO.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
To my eyes, he's still much better at framing pitches also
And passed balls are a such a tiny fraction of a catcher’s impact. Are we really worried about that?
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
We'll show you Obama's birth certificate as soon as you show us Sarah Palin's high school diploma...
by Brian Thomas on Aug 28, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Yo, check ur e-mails, you ugly slut.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Beware 2011: The Fortypocalypse is Nigh...
by thedirkatron on Aug 28, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I have one from somebody named Anthony Amado
He says, “Hi, it’s Tabitha. I live in your area. If I find you attractive and you find me attractive, we can get a hotel room. I am extremely horny tonight.”
Then it says to contact her at another email address, somebody named Luke Walker (or could that be SKYwalker. Hmm…).
Is that your email?
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
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by Brian Thomas on Aug 28, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Um, nay.
The Yahoo adress, right?
That’s where I sent that shit.
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by thedirkatron on Aug 28, 2009 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions
No? Really?
I keed, I saw it on my blackberry earlier, thanks for that, that’s awesome.
And consider the other thing done.
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
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by Brian Thomas on Aug 28, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Really?
Salty’s thrown out an MLB CAREER-HIGH 24% of basestealers this year. That sucks, and it has nothing to do with TOS. He was bad before, and this wasn’t outside normal for him. On the other hand, Teagarden’s thrown out 39% so far in part-time action, which isn’t skewed from his minor league performance, either. Teagarden may have more passed balls, but when you get less chance to catch a certain pitcher, that’s bound to happen. Put Salty in the same position, and his rate would go way up, too. I’d also trust Teagarden to block a ball more, even though they both need a lot of work there.
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Just asking... like I said, I'm basing it solely on observation..
and TT seems to have regressed in all phases except throwing to me, while Salty has generally been regarded as improving a lot this year.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Players regress when they don't get to play.
At the least they are rusty. I don’t blame Teagarden for being forced to sit on the bench watching a below-average catcher have his job. I’m not extremely high on either Salty or Teagarden’s bats, but at least Teagarden brings one plus to the table, and that’s his defense. He just needs to get time to work with pitchers, and you’ll see him really shore up his defense if he gets to play five times a week now before Salty gets back or if Washington doesn’t completely screw things up by playing Pudge as a starter.
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Now I gotcha..
seems to be a fairly strong emotional attachment there. You sure TT needs to be playing full time over a guy hitting almost twice what he is, especially when we’re in the middle of a pennant race?
Granted, Pudge will cool off, but I don’t see TT getting 5 games a week. Nor should he.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
He should.
Pudge was hitting pretty much evenly with Teagarden and Salty before he came to us. He’s hot, so it’s a big blip. Teagarden works a count, provides pretty much even defense to Pudge, if not better (GASP!), and is in our long-term plans. That adds up to me wanting Teagarden to play, Pudge to be a true backup. Pudge might get a couple hits more over the next week, but when he cools down, Teagarden’s the better player.
And there’s no emotional attachment. Just want the better player to play for once. Has Salty done anything to make me think he’s a better player? Nope.
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That's just so full of dumb, I thought you were an Expert?
Pudge might get a couple hits more over the next week, [in a Pennant Race] but when he cools down, [he won’t play as much!]
He just needs to get time to work with pitchers [Fuck That, the better performing player needs to play right now – screw TT’s development]
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Aug 28, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fuck That, the better performing player needs to play right now – screw TT’s development
You and John Hart would get along marvelously.
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Pudge, TT, Salty
none of them should be counted on to hit like Piazza right now. I’d start Tea 4 times a week and Pudge 2 or 3, one of them might get on a hot streak, but I wouldn’t project either of them to be great bats.
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Pudge is on a hot streak
.357 since being aquired. That was my point, ride him until he cools off, subbing in TT when he needs a rest. When he cools, change the PT arrangement.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Salty has TOS right?
TT starts 5/week and Pudge 2/week at C. On the other days, Pudge DH’s until said hot bat goes cold. Once Salty comes back, strictly back-up unless Pudge really starts to blow.
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TT cant hit for shit
he just cant, this isnt an opinion, its a fact
Salty has 10x more potential and i dont want to see TT and his guaranteed .220/.300/.400 as the everyday catcher…no fuckin thx
also, consider TTs injury history as well
as for the CS%…irrelevant to me, Salty has been fucked over by Millwood and Feldman so much in that regard it isnt even funny
also, consider TTs injury history as well
Yeah, Salty’s been such a durable horse………
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Jackass...do i need to treat you like Josey?
TTs injuries have required extensive surgery and are considered far more damning to his future durability
Says who?
Just because Teagarden had Tommy John doesn’t mean he’s less durable now. Salty’s had more numerous problems than Teagarden, and his current TOS problem could lead to surgery, too. It’s not as if it goes away. I wouldn’t put money on Salty having a more durable career than Teagarden behind the plate. Elbow problems from last year for Salty and TOS aren’t minor problems.
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"TBag"
Good one.
Comedy is definitely your thing.
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
We'll show you Obama's birth certificate as soon as you show us Sarah Palin's high school diploma...
by Brian Thomas on Aug 28, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Thats his nickname
His glove even says “teabag” on it.
by JasonCole on Aug 28, 2009 3:21 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I didn't know that
I’d also wager depeche didn’t either (what an overrated band, by the way, bleah).
The reason I say that is b/c depeche’s main schtick is hating on Teagarden. As in, a Tbag = douchebag.
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
We'll show you Obama's birth certificate as soon as you show us Sarah Palin's high school diploma...
by Brian Thomas on Aug 28, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
BA's Prospect Hot Sheet:
No. 7 MARTIN PEREZ, LHP
RANGERS
Team: Double-A Frisco (Texas)
Age: 18
Why He’s Here: 1-0, 0.00, 5 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 3 SO
The Scoop: Perez was still on an 80-pitch count and still went five innings, except this time he did it in Double-A. He consistently put up a similar line for low Class A Hickory before being called up to Frisco in early August. It took Perez a couple of starts to get used to the level, as he allowed nine runs in 6 2/3 innings in his first two outings. But by pitching five scoreless innings this week against San Antonio, he proved he’s sufficiently adjusted. For such a young pitcher, Perez understands the importance of getting ahead and staying ahead with his fastball, which sits 92-94 mph and touches 95. He also mixes in a sharp curveball and an improving changeup that hitters either foul off or miss completely.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
Wow. Glowing.
It took Perez a couple of starts to get used to the level
Heh.
Hank is the elephant in the room. When will he disappear?
by inactive lsb user on Aug 28, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
Hank is the elephant in the room. When will he disappear?
by inactive lsb user on Aug 28, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Miguel Velazquez
Where would he rank?
I really like him going forward.
"Stats are like a woman in a fine little bikini. You can see a lot, but you can't see everything." -Dirk A. Tron
He's probably a C.
He’s average age for his league now, so he’s lost that advantage.
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C+ because of scouting reports and chance to breakout id think.
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
C+ is usually reserved for people with solid track records, though.
Cs are used much more liberally by Sickels.
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I'd think
he’s in the mix as a top 30 guy, especially if he continues to finish strong. He’s not super young, an ‘88 b-day (same as Mendonca as a frame of reference) but he’s hit well enough at Spokane to pique my interest. Anyone know about his defensive acumen?
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
For comparison
Hes a year and a half older than Engel Beltre
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
okay, that worx for me
Never looked at it that way. MV moves like a AA player already, IMO.
Over the next year, dude might sneak past everybody and into the high rankings while
Engel Beltre’s Hi-A struggles are being dissected.
Saw the video
of MV hitting a HR to dead center (400 ft.) effortlessly against Boise.
"Stats are like a woman in a fine little bikini. You can see a lot, but you can't see everything." -Dirk A. Tron
Good defensive player
Tons of tools. Better suited for a corner. An A’s scout I know called him “Baby Mondesi.” Not a bad comp.
Raul Mondesi?
awesome, barely remember that guy, but id remember him being good… haha, thats just a real odd comparison.
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
How about Nellie Cruz as a comp?
Actually he’s way ahead – Cruz didn’t really put up numbers until he was 23.
Yep
He was still playing Bball till he was 18.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Aug 29, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Well...
Cristian Santana was given the “Raul Mondesi, but a catcher” comp a couple years ago, so…
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Hey Andy
How often have you seen Velazquez?
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 29, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
So what?
Similar tools doesnt equal similar development. Santana’s raw talent is actually quite remarkable. He just doesnt seem to care about much, and that has definitely played a part in his development as a baseball player.
I'm just saying that comps don't say a lot about players' skills.
Tools yes, but not skills.
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um no.......some comps are made precisely because of a players skill...
what the fuck are you, retarded?
why anybody put any stock worth a shit in your opinion is mind boggling. Just because you pay for all of the subscriptions, live in your mother’s basement, and have the time to start up a shitty draft website does not make you an expert… The arrogance(and ignorance) you respond to people with because you think your opinions warrant respect is fucking puketastic… Mostly everybody on this website does just as much research as you(we have internet too!!!). You just research mock drafts and scouting reports like everybody else and started taking stabs in the dark in fanposts. Which is fine but then you started calling yourself an expert and thought of yourself as sickels 2.0 instead of the average poster. So consider yourself talking to an equal, when you’re responding to anybody on this site….insulting the intelligence of posters on this site when there is a vast wealth of evidence showing your jackassery on the matter, isn’t smart… You shit the bed, soak in it, and think about what you’re about post next time
by slash on Aug 29, 2009 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
Hot. Sports. Opinion.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 29, 2009 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
well i mightv'e forgot
to label the much-too-long paragraph as “OT”, and it probably looks misplaced and harsh under that specific comment. I’ve just watched him for months talk down to people because he thinks he owns a degree in scouting and is the only one that understands the fine art of pitching mechanics…
I mightv’e been too harsh, but it’s because he gets away with insulting people’s intelligence because he labeled himself an expert and has a website… Then acts like his opinion has more merit than anybody on this board when it’s quite the contrary….
It rubbed me the wrong way more than the usual trolls, because he is actually very serious in every sense of the word….Also, because some people let him get away with talking down to them because they think he actually is an expert.
El oh el.
I’ve missed you, slash.
Hank is the elephant in the room. When will he disappear?
by inactive lsb user on Aug 29, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions
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