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The Ranger offense since the All Star Break

Name AVG OBP SLG
Michael Young .417 .462 .783
Nelson Cruz .341 .438 .659
Andruw Jones .219 .405 .594
Elvis Andrus .311 .396 .467
Jarrod Saltalamacchia .235 .278 .529
David Murphy .256 .348 .436
Marlon Byrd .242 .277 .452
Ian Kinsler .188 .200 .438
Omar Vizquel .250 .280 .250
Hank Blalock .200 .200 .308
Josh Hamilton .158 .186 .228
Taylor Teagarden .100 .136 .250
OVERALL .250 .307 .458

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yikes!

"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"

by Bob Loblaw on Aug 3, 2009 2:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Hank F Blalock

is really carrying this thing. Geez.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Aug 3, 2009 2:02 PM CDT reply actions  

When did Davis go down again?

Your point is well taken, as the 2 events – decrease in production by Blalock and promotion to full time player – occurred near the same time.

by Mark from OC on Aug 3, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

davis went down maybe 4 days before the ASB

something like that

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Aug 3, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

He is obviously the guy

you’d release if you added a 1B/DH type

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Aug 3, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Andruw Jones

Difference between batting average and on base percentage is just amazing. I didn’t realize he was walking that much since the break.

by Mark from OC on Aug 3, 2009 2:03 PM CDT reply actions  

looking at the difference

between his average and his slugging percentage, it appears that his average hit is almost a triple.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Aug 3, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which I'm ok with.

Andruw is not at the top of my list of concerns with this offense.

by Maximilian on Aug 3, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mine neither

Considering he is getting the job done right now and the chances of him being back next year are slim.

by Mark from OC on Aug 3, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just really wish

we didnt have to depend on him and Byrd batting cleanup.

You are obsessed with bodily wastes A turd being held under my nose, this team being a steaming pile, Jonny Donuts having a stinky diaper, the front office pissing themselves, the team crapping the bed…

I think you should seek counselling.

(AJM to Josey Donuts)

by Michael Cave on Aug 3, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

He has

more HRs than singles, and almost as many doubles as singles this year (17 HRs, 16 1Bs, 14 2Bs, 36 BBs).

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Aug 3, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which sort of makes him the poster boy for what Rudy "supposedly" teaches...

Find a pitch you can drive and then drive it.. Sadly, he seems to be one of the few guys who understands that the first part of that is pretty f’in critical.

Every time I look at the OBP-BA numbers for Hank and Ian, I die a little bit.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 3, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's a real testament to his physical state and good eye.

The walk is the least physically-taxing way to get on base. Therefore, he’s mastered it.

by bhudson on Aug 3, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're onto something

the homerun is the 2nd lease physically taxing

by BuckyB on Aug 3, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

ha

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Aug 3, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is trying to follow the path of a baseball so mentally taxing

That byrd tries to do it as few times as possible?

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Aug 3, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Elvis

He came on really strong in the second half at Frisco last year, and it looks like he might be getting pretty comfortable against ML pitching now. I still think there is more in the bat than what most people were describing as he was coming up.

"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out

by tricer on Aug 3, 2009 2:04 PM CDT reply actions  

I think he

has it in him to be a .300 hitter in the big leagues. This is the time when rookies usually fade and he starting to actually pick it up.

You are obsessed with bodily wastes A turd being held under my nose, this team being a steaming pile, Jonny Donuts having a stinky diaper, the front office pissing themselves, the team crapping the bed…

I think you should seek counselling.

(AJM to Josey Donuts)

by Michael Cave on Aug 3, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree Tricer.

I think he’s going to develop into a .280 15-20 HR guy, he has a nice frame that could add about 5 – 10 pounds of muscle while not effecting his range.

But if he doesn’t, I"m not going to shed any tears.

I'm Ron Burgundy?

by Ryin A on Aug 3, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

When he came up

a lot of ppl were invoking Renteria comparisons. If he turned out to be that, i would have no complaints.

You are obsessed with bodily wastes A turd being held under my nose, this team being a steaming pile, Jonny Donuts having a stinky diaper, the front office pissing themselves, the team crapping the bed…

I think you should seek counselling.

(AJM to Josey Donuts)

by Michael Cave on Aug 3, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think Elvis ever sniffs 20 HR

Probably more like a 10-13 HR type guy. But I agree on the average maybe even a bit higher

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 3, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

While i agree that he definitely has the frame, I dont really know if i want him to add any weight

a ton of his value is in his range, based on his quickness and agility, whatever he gains in muscle could therotically limit his range some. Id rather him just incrementally improve his wrist and hand strength and approach at the plate to become an even better line drive hitter who could hit .300 than try to develop what might still just be marginal power in the 10 HR range.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Aug 3, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

No

He’s a top 5 major leaguer.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 3, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

exactly - MVP caliber player

"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out

by tricer on Aug 3, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

DL Hamilton

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Aug 3, 2009 2:04 PM CDT reply actions  

can someone explain why Marlon Byrd bats cleanup

and Nellie Cruz bats 6th or 7th?

"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out

by tricer on Aug 3, 2009 2:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Stupidity?

Seems like the only logical reasoning…

by N41D on Aug 3, 2009 2:11 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Marlon should NEVER....EVER sit, so says the "gut."

I thought it be all warm and shitty, but it just tasted like normal beer. It was still cold.

by RA Dickey on Aug 3, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've been saying this all year

why is Cruz not in the cleanup role??

the guy is a legit All-star this year and, other than MY has been your most consistent hitter all year (of course, doesn’t say much with this offense).

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Aug 3, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

MY is probably having

a career year with easily the best numbers, especially the Isolated Power numbers, of his career.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Aug 3, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

i was really glad to see MY in the All-Star game

he is having an amazing year

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Aug 3, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

Blalock, Hamilton, Teagarden, Vizquel, Kinsler and Byrd = YUCK

Honestly, thank goodness for MY, Cruz, Jones the not ready for primetime player Andrus.

You are obsessed with bodily wastes A turd being held under my nose, this team being a steaming pile, Jonny Donuts having a stinky diaper, the front office pissing themselves, the team crapping the bed…

I think you should seek counselling.

(AJM to Josey Donuts)

by Michael Cave on Aug 3, 2009 2:05 PM CDT reply actions  

He is basicly

pissing himself every time up.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Aug 3, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

but remember we

all lost the Hank Blalock War of 2009 or whatever he called it

You are obsessed with bodily wastes A turd being held under my nose, this team being a steaming pile, Jonny Donuts having a stinky diaper, the front office pissing themselves, the team crapping the bed…

I think you should seek counselling.

(AJM to Josey Donuts)

by Michael Cave on Aug 3, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

greatest episode ever

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Aug 3, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

“How do you kill that which has no life?”

After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL

by MayurP on Aug 3, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

If only we didn't let Blalock drown post ASB

maybe we wouldn’t be 4 games back.

Another Blunder from The Boy.

by behindthebag on Aug 3, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

MY is on fire.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Aug 3, 2009 2:15 PM CDT reply actions  

All of July too

best he has looked ever, I think.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Aug 3, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

3 players with BA over .256

Thats why i don’t think a guy like Nick Johnson would help that much. Cause we don’t have guys who can string together hits to bring that walk around to score. Sure once or twice he may get brought home on a HR but most likely all it’ll do is create more men left on base which frustrates me more than seeing guys K.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 3, 2009 2:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Yep,

the team is a HR or Bust offense, and taking a guy out who can hit some HRs, like Blalock, would probably hurt more than it would help.

Although, if Blalock keeps being a steaming pile, it may be time to bring Davis up to fight for ABs.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Aug 3, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

HR or Bust

No doubt about that one.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Aug 3, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd really like to see a breakdown

on how what percentage of runs is scored via longball this year. I gotta believe its way on the high side.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Aug 3, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stand by...

It’s a spreadsheet I’m working on, but I’m working from game logs since I have no idea where to find any pre-digested data.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 3, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

I don’t know where to get the number of runs scored via HR anywhere.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Aug 3, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

TBS had a graphic Sunday that had the Rangers at 45% of runs via the HR

They were talking about the Phillies, who were in 2nd at around 41%

"Let me tell you something my friend. Hope is a dangerous thing. Hope can drive a man insane." ---Red, The Shawshank Redeption

by drizzle on Aug 3, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

That sounds about right...

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 3, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here's your percentages ...

I put together a spreadsheet to show this a couple of days ago but never got around to posting the results here.

As of Friday night, home runs accounted for 45.4% of the Rangers runs which is highest in the majors. ML average is 35.6%.

This year the Rangers are scoring 2.2 runs per game via home run. Only the Phillies score more by home run (2.3). ML average is 1.6 per game.

The Rangers are scoring 2.7 runs per game by means other than the home run. This ranks 24th in ML. League average is 3.0. The dreaded Angels lead the majors with 4.0 runs per game by means other than the home run.

As of Friday night, the Rangers were leading the ML in number of home runs with 155. Of these 155 home runs, 102 were solo home runs. Thus, 65.8% of their home runs in 2009 were solo jobs. This is the highest percentage in the majors. League average for solo home runs is 58.2%.

By contrast the 2008 Rangers hit 194 home runs in 162 games, but only 99 (or 51.0%) of them were solo. League average in 2008 was 56.5%. In 2007, the Rangers percentage of solo home runs was even lower at 50.3%. In 2006 it was 51.9% and in 2005 it was 54.6%.

The 2008 Rangers led the majors with 5.6 runs scored per game. They were third in the majors with 2.1 runs scored per game by home run, but were second in all of baseball with 3.5 runs scored per game via other means. 37.0% of the Rangers runs came via the home run in 2008. This ranked as the 10th highest percentage. ML average was 34.5%.

The 2007 Rangers had 38.0% of their runs scored via home run. The 2006 Rangers had 36.9% and the 2005 team had a whopping 47.7% of the runs scored via the home run.

All of the above data was compiled from baseballmusings.com which is the only source I’ve been able to locate which list situational home runs.

by pfrog on Aug 3, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Thanks

for working that out.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Aug 3, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

...and my pitiful effort hits the recycle bin....

Thanks for posting that. Especiaily the link to baseball musings.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 4, 2009 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

You realize that runs get scored...

…without HR’s, right? Like, lots of them. And alll those runs that get scored without a HR? They involve getting guys on base. More bases leads to more runs.

by GhettoBear04 on Aug 3, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not so much

with the Rangers this year.

I’ll bet the team is near record highs for percentage of runs scored via HRs this year.

With a team OBP in the toilet, they aren’t real likely to string singles and doubles together. I really worry about this issue in the future, because a lot of guys currently on the farm, Chris Davis, Borbon, etc., aren’t particularly huge OBP guys.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Aug 3, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Its not so much OBP as BA

walks only move guys along one base at a time. Having guys who walks in your lineup is fine if you also have guys who can move them along. Thats what we are missing. Most of our guys are “go big or go home” type guys who can’t come through with a single with a guy on 2nd base.

Look at the Angels recently. They have a lineup of guys who can get base hits which is great for them to go along with their OBP guys. How many times this past week did we piss and moan this year about an Angel inning that they strung together 5 or 6 singles in a row to score 3 or 4 runs? We simply can’t do that with this team.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 3, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you want to put together

long innings, its OBP that matters, because (1-OBP) is the number of ABs resulting in an out. The higher your OBP, the less outs you make. Thats the key to sustained offensive success, avoiding outs.

Here are the chances of having a 1-2-3 inning with all 3 batters of the same OBP
OBP 1-2-3 inn pct num of 123 inn/game
0.275 0.381 3.43
0.300 0.343 3.09
0.325 0.308 2.77
0.350 0.275 2.47

So you can see that the difference between a .275 OBP and a .350 OBP is essentially one inning a game conceded to the other team. Also, if you do a more extensive run on the numbers, you will see the percentages for a 7 or 8 hitter inning rise dramatically with OBP.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Aug 3, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Long innings have more to do with BA than anything to me

Major league pitchers aren’t gonna walk a ton of guys. And if they are then most likely you are gonna be able to take advantage of them with the long ball. I think having guys with the ability to put the ball in play and move guys along is much more important than drawing a walk for sustained innings.

For instance, a single followed by another single that moves the guy to 3rd base. So you got 1st and 3rd. Then a guy who can draw a walk to load them up. Followed by a double that scores 2 or three. Then another single, etc, etc, etc. The walks are fine if its the alternative to making an out but focusing on walks is not a recipe for success IMO.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 3, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, but like most things that seem right to you

there isn’t much statistical basis for it.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Aug 3, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Very possible

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 3, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think the stats can tell the whole story there.

Part of what I see as a higher-OBP offense is better pitch selection, which translates into better ABs when the ball is put into play.

I have no idea how to quantify that, but it seems intuitievly obvious. When we see guys swinging at balls in the dirt, or trying to pull balls off the outside corner, or popping up on the eye-high FB, this isn’t just about walks to me.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 3, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

*intuitively

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 3, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

One observation

By an Angels fan (I believe it was 44fan) the other day on LL, one of Jeff’s postgame articles – the Angels have also benefitted particularly in the Twins series from a slew of errors, keeping comeback innings alive. So in the main, they are not only selectively hitting and getting timely long balls, but catching breaks of opponents’ defensive lapses. The whole thing adds up to extreme pressure on opposing defenses.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -

"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce

by Ed Coffin on Aug 3, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

True..

I haven’t really joined the bandwagon that the Angels are just hitting better and stringing together innings. Seems like a ton of their wins have resulted from a slew of homers.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 3, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

OBP isn't all about walks

The Rangers are a HR-or-nothing offense right now.

No one is saying that we should stop trying to hit the ball and focus squarely on walking runs in — the concern is that the Rangers are of the three true outcomes: HRs, Ks, and pop-outs.

We need to reduce the Ks and pop-outs (possibly indirectly reducing HRs) and increase the number of balls put solidly in play, and hopefully get some more walks out of it as well.

We want our OPS to be closer to a .350/.450/.800 than to a .300/.500/.800 because the .350/.450 version will score more runs.

(Please note that pop-outs as a true-outcome is simply a joke about what our offense seems to be doing and not an actual “three-true-outcome”)

by Trickman on Aug 3, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

nitpicking

slash lines are generally avg/obp/slg

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Aug 3, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Generally yes

I just wanted to focus on OBP/SLG/OPS and ignoring the AVG component.

by Trickman on Aug 3, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

We agree on the crappy OBP of this team

I was more responding to the idea that since we have a bad OBP, a guy like Nick Johnson would be useless. This is simply not true. The answer for a team with a terrible OBP is to get/develop guys with better OBP’s, not to simply give up on it all together.

by GhettoBear04 on Aug 3, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the knock on Johnson was defensible..

He was an incremental upgrade at best, possibly even Wilk redux. We need to add a higher-OBP bat who can still slug. I realize those aren’t standing around on street corners, but I think we can attract one this winter.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 3, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree completely.

OBP = Probability of reaching base
SLG = Expected number of bases given the PA was an AB (did not end in sacrifice or walk).

Putting OBP players infront of SLG players increases the value of the SLG.

As a simple example… Blalock has what, 20 HRs?
Lets say we put a .400 OBP person directly infront of Blalock and that the prior person infront of Blalock was a .300 OBP.
That increases the probability of a man on base infront of blalock by 10%.

Therefore, on average, those 20 HRs would have 10% more men on base for them, generating 2 additional runs (on average).

There are additional residual effects such as increasing the numbers of at-bats seen by each player, and increasing the numbers of pitches thrown by opposing pitchers. Both of which have non-negligible impacts on offensive production… but continuing on…

Replacing low OBP with high OBP is never a “waste”.

by Trickman on Aug 3, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now calling it a "waste" personally, just a marginal upgrade..

Something you left out of your equation is the impact of the guy Johnson is replacing. What if the guy ahead of Blalock, the one Johnson is replacing, has a .100 higher SLG? For example, replacing AJ costs you .194 in SLG.

I was slow to arrive at this conclusion during the week, but the problem isn’t a 1B/DH bat right now.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 3, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Ranger Record since the All Star Break

11-5, for a sweet .688 winning percentage.

Suck It, Hater!

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 3, 2009 2:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Anyone else get those ACTA Sports emails?

I think it’s Bill James related….

Chris Davis dug out a ridiculous # of balls in 09….24 in 70 games…leader is Pujols with 32 in 101.

Good stuff cheap right there.

Just throwing it out there bc I had seen a lot of folks questioning how many balls he’s dug out this year…I guess they now are keeping track of it?

I'm Ron Burgundy?

by Ryin A on Aug 3, 2009 2:24 PM CDT reply actions  

iPhone fail.

If you had told me Elvis would be 4th on this list before the season started, I would’ve punched you in the sternum.

by LiamP on Aug 3, 2009 2:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ideal lineup

1st Bourbon
2nd MY
3rd Murphy
4th Cruz
5th Druw
6th Salty
7th Hank
8th Omar
9th Elvis

Hamilton batting 5th in OKC. Oh, and Ian keeps the 8th spot when he gets back until he learns his lesson.

by AceJC on Aug 3, 2009 2:29 PM CDT reply actions  

crazy

I can’t believe this team is doing as well as it is, with an offense as bad as this.

"Was this really necsarry?" - cowpoke/hurler hurley

by trza on Aug 3, 2009 2:39 PM CDT reply actions  

it goes to show you how important

pitching and defense are in baseball.

Everybody falls in love with the HR and offense, but that isn’t the real recipe for success.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Aug 3, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Partially.

HRs + defense = Rangers win.

Right?

Sounds like we need more Blalock..

by Trickman on Aug 3, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Face

Is straight up raking it right now. The bottom half there is pretty brutal. I’m wondering if Hamilton needs to swap places with Davis for a little while.

by Big50 on Aug 3, 2009 2:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Ian shouldn't be without condemnation in this thread either

Between Kinsler and Hamilton, this has been a tough stretch to watch.

Your uncle molests collies.

by 3k on Aug 3, 2009 3:02 PM CDT reply actions  

My hell...

I do believe you need to join more SB Nation sites. =P

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by slc ranger on Aug 3, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lol, I noticed that last night.

SPOHTS!

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"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Aug 3, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone else

Encouraged by Salty lately? I haven’t been watching many games lately, but simply by looking at the numbers he seems to have begun turning things around since the ASB. If he can get his act together and become anything close to the All-star catcher we thought we were getting, one of the biggest problems with this thing is solved for a long, long time.

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by Conjunction on Aug 3, 2009 3:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Ive been a Salty supporter all year

Maybe now hes finding that middle ground I have been talking about between too aggressive and too patient. Hes been real good the last few games and if he can maintain it we will have a very solid young catcher on our hands.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Aug 3, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

His ABs are looking better and better...

Starting to put good wood on the baseball and he just looks more comfortable at the plate…

by N41D on Aug 3, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

agreed

he’s definitely making better contact

by Sherman McCoy on Aug 3, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Where would MY rank on the Angels for July?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Aug 3, 2009 3:21 PM CDT reply actions  

he'd be a nice bench player

with the way every single person is hitting on the Angels. I, actually, can’t wait for them to get back Vlad or Hunter and maybe that’ll mess with their lineup.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Aug 3, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

So why the isolation on after the ASB

especially when This Thing rocked a 17-8 record in July with Hank F playing every day?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 3, 2009 3:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Two hot weeks to begin July...

Don’t excuse the previous 2+ months of pants wetting and 3+ weeks since the ASB of crapping his pants on a nightly basis…

by N41D on Aug 3, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Amen.

Hank’s my favorite Ranger, but he’s been pretty bad this year, save two weeks.

"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009

by ghtd36 on Aug 3, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

this year?

I’ve had it with him for a couple years now. I’m not sure how he can be anyones favorite. That whole Hanks Homies thing died out I’m pretty sure because they were so embarrassed by him. He is def my most hated ranger. Can’t wait for him to be off this team next year.

by albyman32 on Aug 3, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Meh.

Hank’s been my favorite for about five years now. I wish I knew how to quit him.

"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009

by ghtd36 on Aug 3, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

heh

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 3, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

That limpdick response

Is hopefully the final nail in the coffin of anybody giving a shit about Josey Wales.

by brettgardner on Aug 3, 2009 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

And since the AS Break

Hank F was the key offensive player in the first two wins v. Boston, had a big double in the KC game that extended a 1-0 lead to 2-0 and then got the team off the schneid last week with his lead-off bomb v Luke French.

The team is 18-9 since he started playing every day. Bitch all you want but that fact cannot be argued. The chemistry in the room is better because the organization quit playing nursemaid with Chris Davis and it shows up in wins & losses.

There were a lot of casualties in The Great Hank Blalock War of June 2009 but it’s time to move forward and let the healing begin.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 3, 2009 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK.

The nail’s already in, dude. Maybe you could “rock” that?

by brettgardner on Aug 3, 2009 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hold the anchovies tonight, bg

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Aug 3, 2009 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

This post

perfectly epitomizes your self-serving confirmation bias. Epic.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Aug 3, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Question:

If the Rangers make the playoffs, how much of a case does MY have for MVP? What if he continues to play like this or even at a .050 lower clip in each category?

by tdi1985 on Aug 3, 2009 3:44 PM CDT reply actions  

I think he'd place around 3rd or 4th in the voting

Personally, I think if Cruz can streak a little and get to 300 35 100 23(sb), that he would have a better chance (esp with his defense)

by BuckyB on Aug 3, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not sure the defense has been good enough..

…and remember that one of the reasons these numbers look better is because we’ve had more games at home. I think Young would have to maintain an OPS around .950 the rest of the way to have a real shot.

by GhettoBear04 on Aug 3, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think the defense would factor in at all..

He’s the “face” of the team, a name fans are familiar with due to All Star appearances. That said, he’d finish 3rd or lower.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 3, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

defensive statistics like UZR really dont matter to MVP voters

they consider offensive production relative to position, but little else.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Aug 3, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the problems with our offense outside of just looking at the glaring numbers and focusing on what

is actually happening when the hitters are up there swinging is two-fold:

A) The worst fault is what pitches we are swinging at. Not only do we swing at too many pitches outside of the zone, but also, we swing at pitches out of the zone in hitter counts and we swing at too many pitcher’s pitches that are in the zone when ahead in the count. Swinging at pitches outside of the zone when down in the count happens, its just the nature of hitting, some hitters have a better trained eye more naturally developed to see when a pitch is a strike or a ball, but essentially, swinging at bad pitches happens when down in the count. But swinging at bad pitches in a 0-0 count, 1-0 count, 2-0 count and 3-1 count, is a failure of approach alot of times, yes, sometimes the hitter is just plain fooled, but alot of times, we have swung at a 2-0 pitch that was more likely to be called a ball than a strike. The fact that this happens kills a players leverage in an at bat, hitting that pitch in play is going to lead to a greatly reduced batting average of balls in play in a count where the BABIP should be higher while also cutting out the chance of taking a walk despite being in a count where a walk is still has a very decent chance of happening. This to me, is the number one failure in the way we approach are at bats, many times, the hitters that are most responsible for the misery of an on base % that we have (Kinsler, Hamilton, Byrd, Blalock, all pretty good hitters naturally) tend to be decent enough at making contact which in turns hurts them even more when they swing at these bad pitches in hitters counts, if they swung and missed, they’d still have a higher % chance of getting on base than if they actually put the ball in play. If they would simply focus on the pitch they swing at in these counts be a fastball in a certain zone, then alot of this would be eliminated. Taking the pitchers pitch in these counts is always the better thing to do and is something that i feel like is much easily marginalized by a more focused approach. Watching this offense this year, the lack of discipline in hitters counts/first pitch has been the most frustrating thing to watch for me.

B.) The HR swing, its a pretty much commonly stated complaint, but it cant be overstated enough. We hit tons and tons of flyballs and flyballs that dont go as HRs are more likely to be outs than Line Drives or groundballs. If we want to help our on base out, we can start by staying consistently square on balls. This isnt as big of a deal to me as the swinging at bad pitches, but it still has alot to do with the low BA thus lower on base.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Aug 3, 2009 5:25 PM CDT reply actions  

this is brutal

http://www.fangraphs.com/teams.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&type=5&season=2009&month=0

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on Aug 3, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

yea, i knew those numbers were terrible... not good indicators

id be interested to see those swing % broken down by counts, that would be very interesting to me as it would help show what kind of approach we are taking at the plate. My observations are obviously just from watching every day.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Aug 3, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mr. Brightside

The offense is bleak but there’s some bright sides with this team:
1. Our pitching has been the best in the league in July and since the AS break—9 points above everybody in ERA, 11 points in WHIP.
2. Our bullpen has been, hands down, the best in the league and probably the best in MLB, with a WHIP around 1.00
3. We’re hitting HRs! Second in the league since the break. I don’t see the problem as too many HRs—let’s have more.
4. We’re still above the league average in Runs Scored, although not since the AS break—I say if we just replaced Josh and Hank with average major leaguers, we’d maintain our position above the league average.
Basically, we’re an above average Earl Weaver Oriole Team—great pitching, great power, mediocre BA and OBP

by davea on Aug 3, 2009 5:47 PM CDT reply actions  

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