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Good for Chris...

I’m still making the bet that he’s viewed as this teams best hitter going into next years ASB.

by cmkelly29 on Aug 3, 2009 2:25 PM CDT reply actions  

I think

consistent contact will be a fight throughout his ML career.

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by DJCahill on Aug 3, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

As long as

Blalock is crapping the bed in this Thing, it may be time to bring Davis up and play whoever has the hot bat.

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by DJCahill on Aug 3, 2009 2:25 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I was going to do a fanpost but...
“Rudy and I haven’t had a chance to work together as much as guys like Mike or Hank or Ian, guys that he’s been around for several years,” Davis said. “This was really our first year to work together. We had a tough time staying on the same page because neither one of us really knew how to go about it. He would suggest certain things that would work for a few games, and then it wouldn’t work. It’s not Rudy’s fault. We worked as much as we could. He did everything that he could to help me.”

Maybe I’m reading more into this than I should but here goes.

“Rudy and I haven’t had a chance to work together as much as guys like Mike or Hank or Ian, guys that he’s been around for several years,”

When your starting 1B is hitting .202/.256/.415 with 114 K’s in 277 PA and he doesn’t get the help that others are getting? Huh? He may mean that Rudy has helped these other players for more years, but it really doesn’t feel like that is what is going on. There were enough eyes in AAA to get him help pretty quickly, and they apparently knew how to look at a video.

“We had a tough time staying on the same page because neither one of us really knew how to go about it.”

Wait a minute. The Rangers’ hitting coach didn’t know how to start helping a struggling hitter that was here for half of the previous season and from ST through the end of June of this year? Huh?

I’m usually pretty quiet as I am not too schooled in sabermetrics, but this seems to be basic baseball stuff. The team’s hitting coach should be the person working with the struggling hitters on his team. Is this what is happening with Josh Hmilton too? Does Rudy not have enough time to work with those needing his help? I know that every instructor cannot click with all players, but it then becomes his responsibility to get the right person to communicate with that player. I haven’t been a “fire Rudy” or “Rudy’s the best” fanatic, but this really seems wrong.

"Just take the ball and throw it where you want to. Throw strikes. Home plate don't move." - Satchel Paige

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by pro82 on Aug 3, 2009 2:25 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

He doesn't seem to be doing...

…real bang-up work with Hank or Ian this year, either.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 3, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

So is Rudy just on autopilot now?

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by RangerMad on Aug 3, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kind of an interesting question

I’ve definitely seen that happen to people after a long time in the same job, and Rudy has been the Rangers hitting instructor for what, almost 15 years?

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by DJCahill on Aug 3, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or Josh

Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

by Bezekira on Aug 3, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would say

Firstly, his improvemnt AAA may very well be attributed to a) weaker pitching and b) what they’ve claimed all along: it’s mental.

Secondly, Rudy cannot possibly make up 7 years of help in one season just bc a player struggles.

Young, rushed-to-the-majors power-hitters will struggle with timing.

by BuckyB on Aug 3, 2009 2:32 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don't necessarily think

it is what he couldn’t do, but what he didn’t do. If you are the MLB team’s hitting coach are you not obligated to get the player help from wherever you can find it if you can’t do it? Is the chain of command so out of what that he can’t call or bring in the hitting coach that has worked with a given player in AA/AAA to help him?

"Just take the ball and throw it where you want to. Throw strikes. Home plate don't move." - Satchel Paige

"Josh Hamilton doesn't act like he is Josh Hamilton. He acts like a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy named Josh Hamilton." - Jason Parks

by pro82 on Aug 3, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

hmmm
Secondly, Rudy cannot possibly make up 7 years of help in one season just bc a player struggles

What about DeRosa and GMJ? They didn’t have much time with Rudy? Also, Rudy has been a hitting coach for 18 years. Shouldn’t he have the experience to try different ways to get his message across?

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by RangerMad on Aug 3, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was only referring to CD's statements

He was saying that MY and Hank had gotten so many years of instruction from Rudy, that the familiarity was strong between the parties.

I don’t see anything alarming about CD’s statement (respectfully contrary to pro’s opinion)

by BuckyB on Aug 3, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

DeRosa and GMJ were scraps when they signed with us. Maybe they put more effort, maybe they were more motivated to succeed (with their careers shaping to become perennial NRIs), or maybe it just worked. DeRosa added a toe-tap and only GMJ knows what helped him.

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by chrisR on Aug 3, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're right.

You should have done a fanpost.

by jam0152 on Aug 3, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

funny.

and some what liked.

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by ivysafety39 on Aug 3, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

exactly what I was thinking

He is too comfortable, has too much control, and doesn’t seem to be doing his job. I don’t want Rudy and his philosophy here next year.

ie..Kinsler, Hamilton, Blalock, Davis etc (everybody in June) have gotten zero help.

Rudy gets credit for AJ, and resurrecting his HR swing, which seems to be the only thing he teaches, but Andruw is still batting .229 on the season and .209 the last month. The other work I remember publicized was Rudy’s brilliant decision to change your STAR player, Josh Hamilton’s swing. What was he thinking??

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by NothinG on Aug 3, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was tired of Connor having all the fun retooling guys...

or is that de-tooling??

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by bking on Aug 3, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Andruw is a career .250 hitter

Hes not far off his career batting average. I don’t know what some of you expected from Andruw but hes given us pretty much excatly what we could have hoped for and then some with his power resurgence.

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by bigsteve on Aug 3, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Andruw may have problems...

But he is by far not the problem with this team. The dude at least knows how to get on base at a good clip.

by bhudson on Aug 3, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

yea, and those are things he already knew how to do well

Rudy helped him refind them, but i have a hard time crediting Rudy for much of his improvement

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by blalock84 on Aug 3, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

The way I see it

1) Rudy has failed one year (being this one) since I can remember.
         1a) He is one year removed from leading an historic offense

2) At the same time, this team is 15 games over for the first time in several, several years.

3) He has one of the best reputations throughout baseball as a hitting coach.

4) Hamilton is clearly affected more than anything by his injuries.

We have a proven commodity at hitting coach; we are in a “rebuilding year” and competing at the same time. I’m going to go ahead and give Rudy the benefit of the doubt, rather than risk having bad hitting coach after bad hitting coach while we try to make it back to the playoffs the next couple years (a la pitching coaches over the past 10 years).

The short-term memoried, quick-to-overreact folk around here are killin me

by BuckyB on Aug 3, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

He is one year removed from leading an historic offense

Did he really lead that offense? Or is that leader now in Chicago?

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Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Aug 3, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rudy was also

out about 2 months of last year. How does he get credit for that?

When he came back, I seem to remember the offense not playing as well.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Aug 3, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

You guys treat hitting coaches like offensive coordinators

They don’t run the show by any means. They make subtle adjustments to batters who have been trained to hit a certain way by 20-30+ coaches over the course of their 20-30 year career.

They miss with some hitters and hit with others.

If you actually think that a hitting coach will come in and cause a decrease in production from the offense, I would argue that you need to become more learn-ed in baseball and read up on causality. … imo

This is a huge case of taking something for granted

by BuckyB on Aug 3, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did Rudy all of the sudden become stupid this year (after we scored 901 runs last year) or is

is he trying to make chickensalad out of chickenshat?

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by Josey Wales on Aug 3, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

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by tricer on Aug 3, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying Rudy is the problem, just that it's time for a new voice..

However, that 901 runs last year was built in no small degree on the back on a career year from MB.

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by bking on Aug 3, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

You just lost me...

You fear having a succession of bad hitting coaches in here, yet you dismiss the idea that someone new would come in here and “cause a decrease in production”.

Sounds to me like you’re saying it’s worth a shot.

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by bking on Aug 3, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

poor ordering

I’m saying if your argument is actually that when Rudy came back last season from his surgery, he caused the offense to become worse, I’d say that you’re dumb, respectfully.

by BuckyB on Aug 3, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think if he should take ANY heat for last year based on his surgery..

It’s only related to Josh retooling his swing right around the time Rudy came back.

Other than that, I’m dubious that his absence led to some sort of paradigm shift among hitters, too.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 3, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

my point is Rudy should not

get credit for a team that was anti-Rudy in it’s approach last year, whether it be MB’s influence or partly Rudy being gone for two months.

The Rangers have never been patient at the plate when Rudy has been here, except for last year when Rudy really was not around for 1/3 of the season and MB was a large influence on the lineup. Rudy preaches an aggressive approach at the plate. Last year’s patient team who saw more pitches is anti-Rudy. So overrall I base my critique of Rudy on his tenure here in Texas. I’ve always felt he has been overrated, and his philosophy has been a poor one.

And to say a hitting coach doesn’t have an effect on the offense is “stupid.” If another guy comes in preaching something different and putting something else in the heads of hitters, yeah, it can effect them no matter how many coaches you’ve had in the past.

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by NothinG on Aug 3, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sometimes it's just the messenger more than the message...

Anyone think Madduz is the first guy to harp on throwing strikes and pitching to contact?? Somehow, he’s got guys doing it better than in years past, even though some of the guys were here before this year.

If what Rudy preaches is fairly fundamental – “see ball, drive ball”, is it such a horrible idea that a new messenger can make an improvement?

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by bking on Aug 3, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think we need a new messenger

when you see teams that work pitchers like the yankees, angels and red sox and compare them to the rangers, we really could work pitchers alot more. Our team makes alot of easy outs and doesn’t string hits together to score runs. it’s HR or Bust.

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by NothinG on Aug 3, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's my point

Case in point – right behind us in the HR rankings:

NYY – 5 less HRs, 82 more runs
Phil – 16 less HRS, 48 more runs
TBay – 31 less HRs, 45 more runs

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by bking on Aug 3, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

and to further dogpile

the closest any of those teams are to us in OBP??

Phil beats us .339 to .316

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by bking on Aug 3, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not questioning his abilities

but I am questioning the process. As I said earlier, either the chain of command it out-of-whack , the young players can’t seem to connect the way some veterans do with the htting instructor, or there seems to be a reluctance to calling for help from our other organizational instructors to help with the young players not connecting. Please excuse the run-on sentence.

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by pro82 on Aug 3, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Have a rec, dude

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by bking on Aug 3, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not at all sure you're right about his style

but I agree that Rudy should be a lot more aggressive with a guy like Davis that is supposed to be a big part of the team’s future. He should have gotten a lot of time.

OTOH, it kind of sounds like Davis is throwing him under the bus a little bit.

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by t ball on Aug 3, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Blalock...

continues to struggle on this road trip then I’d have no problem bringing CD back up when the Rangers get back to Arlington.

I also think it may do Josh some good to work with Coolbaugh as well. Perhaps he can find something to help him out as well. Certainly couldn’t hurt at this point.

I’m really starting to question Jaramillo.

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by slc ranger on Aug 3, 2009 2:31 PM CDT reply actions  

If nothing else..

Hank has been a decent replacement glove at 1B.

by cmkelly29 on Aug 3, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fired?

No. But if this is the last year of his contract, no way should he be the highest paid non-manager coach in the majors again. The Rangers limited resources may be spent better elsewhere.

by Mark from OC on Aug 3, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm hoping he gets money-whipped and we let him move on...

Best of all possible situations (unless you believe he should stay) – we get a change of message, and no one gets PO’ed for us firing him.

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by bking on Aug 3, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is his status diminished any?

Is the league consensus on him still such that he would be money-whipped?

I think his credibility has to have taken something of a hit this year, no?

by bhudson on Aug 3, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I haven't a clue what his perception is these days...

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by bking on Aug 3, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

That would make sense

While his agent will be promoting Rudy to other teams in the off season, the other teams will have to look at how much the Rangers offense decreased in 2009 compared to the previous year. Such a huge drop can not be ignored by any team looking to hire him.

by Mark from OC on Aug 3, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good article.
In looking at films, it was determined Davis had narrowed his stance from previously standing about shoulder width and standing too upright. The conclusion was those factors made him almost fall back when swinging and swing up.

This really struck me while watching him this year.

I try not to channel my inner batting coach too often, but everytime I’d watch him stand up there I’d be praying for him to just crouch down even a little.

He seemed so much taller and stiffer than even last year, and he’s always been a tall stance guy.

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by thedirkatron on Aug 3, 2009 2:32 PM CDT reply actions  

That's interesting.

I, on the other hand, while thinking “he’s so rigid all the time,” never thought he was more upright than last year. Maybe I just don’t remember. Interesting to hear him comment on that though.

by FuturePants on Aug 3, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

So with your last post, and now linking this one to the main page...

I’m getting the feeling you’re on the “Jaramillo needs to go” wagon with a lot of us?

Was this already common knowledge?

by cmkelly29 on Aug 3, 2009 2:34 PM CDT reply actions  

This is all a moot point

because Hank Blalock has to be hurt soon… right?

by jam0152 on Aug 3, 2009 2:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Sure

Need to get him to start spending a lot of time with McCarthy

You are obsessed with bodily wastes A turd being held under my nose, this team being a steaming pile, Jonny Donuts having a stinky diaper, the front office pissing themselves, the team crapping the bed…

I think you should seek counselling.

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by Michael Cave on Aug 3, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Solid

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by Conjunction on Aug 3, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

About 2-3 mos ago

Davis stated that he “didn’t watch video” of himself….

In this day and age I find it almost irresponsible to not utilize the technology we have.

Seems that if he had utilized said video he would’ve noticed the changes in his swing from 08 to 09.

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by Cecilio's Guante on Aug 3, 2009 2:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Maybe not...

If he’s not a very technical hitter, he may not know what he’s doing wrong without guidance.

I could watch video of my golf swing all day and not do anything except make it worse with little, incorrect observations.

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by bking on Aug 3, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you put them up side by side, and put it in slow-mo

then you can tell…

I mean, Harold Reynolds can do it, why can’t Davis?

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by Cecilio's Guante on Aug 3, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just don't think all that many hitters do that...

My hunch is that this is a primary task of the hitting coach – have some solid tape on a guy when he’s raking, get some tape of when he’s struggling, and point out the differences.

Wasn’t the book on CD when he was up here that he was thinking too much and being tentative?? Seems to me that analyzing your own swing would play into that.

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by bking on Aug 3, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

kinsler said the same

on bad radio a couple weeks ago.
paraphrasing = “ii’ve tried to watch it before, like last year. but i just can’t stand watching myself on film… so i don’t”

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by ivysafety39 on Aug 3, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm
"We’ve basically told him, ‘It’s not so much your swing. It’s your pitch selection. You swing at pitches out of the strike zone.’ When we watched him on television [as a Ranger], almost all of his strikeouts are pitches that are down. They’re balls. So he’s a little more disciplined at the plate, a little more patient."

Wasn’t he just missing everything, period? I thought I remembered someone on here posting his in-zone contact % and it was pathetic. I don’t think he was just missing balls that were too low.

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by Dirk Diggler on Aug 3, 2009 2:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes, he was missing everything inside the strike zone as well

Lowest contact rate in the k-zone by a mile, but I am not sure whether those were down in the zone.

by Telegraph on Aug 3, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's what JD was saying last night -

That he not only was missing balls out of the zone, but in the zone as well. He said his swing and miss on balls outside of the zone is always going to be terrible.

by FuturePants on Aug 3, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wasn't that addressed by CD's comments re: being off-balance??

He seemed very aware that he was flat-out missing fastballs he should hit.

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by bking on Aug 3, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

This article just makes me wish

J-Smoak had never hit a roadbump on his way to glory.

It’s like that movie with Dinero and Wesley snipes where the new free agent comes in and takes Snipes’ number and then he stops hitting. Chris Davis came down and stole Justin’s power.

Now I don’t know what we should do but, all im saying is in the movie…Dinero stabs the other guy…

by SaltyGoesYard on Aug 3, 2009 2:54 PM CDT reply actions  

yea, i've seen that... haha

De Niro in that movie is the ultimate wack job fan. I could see Josey doing that to CD if he takes Hank’s job at the end of the year.

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by blalock84 on Aug 3, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Best offseason acquisition last year = New pitching coach, Mike Maddux

Best offseason acquisition this year = New hitting coach, ___________ (insert anyone but Rudy Jaramillo)

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by NothinG on Aug 3, 2009 3:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Mike ~=CJ's stache on his Gameday photo~=Stachequez from last year

its all too close to tell

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by blalock84 on Aug 3, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jaramillo?

I’m starting to think “Nay”. Even the best coaches can lose the room, so to speak. I can’t help but think Rudy has lost the room here.

by bhudson on Aug 3, 2009 3:10 PM CDT reply actions  

yea, you are right about that. I highly doubt it has much to do with Rudy's ability as a technician of hitting

he still is likely the best or close to the best in terms of that. But even the best coaches eventually get run out sometimes and its usually just a matter of the communication breaking down at some point bt. players and coach. Obviously Rudy still has good comunication with some of the hitters, especially Mike who he pretty much made.

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by blalock84 on Aug 3, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Working

Link

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by Conjunction on Aug 3, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mariners turned down a three-way?!

No ctrl-F’ing way! I’d never turn down one of those!

by bhudson on Aug 3, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

even an MFM???

A little selectivity is still a good thing, sir..

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by bking on Aug 3, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're right...

I guess I should wait for more information.

by bhudson on Aug 3, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

hey,

no eye contact, right?

by kevinkinsler on Aug 3, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

That episode of friends was a classic....

Do we look or do we risk unintended contact???

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 3, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

film study

Isn’t film study part of Hitting Coach 101?

In looking at films, it was determined Davis had narrowed his stance from previously standing about shoulder width and standing too upright. The conclusion was those factors made him almost fall back when swinging and swing up.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Aug 3, 2009 3:17 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm starting to think he isn't what is best for this team because

this team is being designed around defense and pitching and they need a more consistant than explosive team offensively. In other words, better to score 5 & 5 than 1 & 9.

by diamond_dave on Aug 3, 2009 3:24 PM CDT reply actions  

The key to that

is better team OBP, but I really don’t see that in our future makeup.

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by DJCahill on Aug 3, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's possible sooner than later..

Smoak seems like a good candidate to improve our OBP; Borbon seems to be improving to an acceptable level; add in a good candidate via FA over the winter, and we’ve gone a long way toward retooling the mix.

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by bking on Aug 3, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Smoak seems like it to me.

As far as Borbon, I’m dubious. I keep hearing how he is more patient, but I look at his MiLB numbers and his OBP-BA is fairly consistent around 50 points.

He’s like MY, if he hits 320, he will have a high OBP, if he hits 280, not so much. My betting is he is closer to 280 his first few years in the bigs.

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by DJCahill on Aug 3, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

he's improved his walk rates definitively, but even moreso, just the fact that he gets more hits than

alot of our other guys will help. We have so many HR/FB hitters that dont walk now, it will be nice even if we just get a line drive/ GB hitter who walks some. Borbon getting on base at a .340 rate with a .290 BA is a nice boon to us b/c we have only a couple of guys even getting on base at that rate.

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by blalock84 on Aug 3, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Davis doing well doesn't prove or disprove anything

Davis better at AAA than MLB this year.
Nellie good at AAA last year and good at MLB this year.
Young not great last year and very, very good this year.
Ian and Josh great last year and bad this year.

There are no conclusions that can be drawn. Things are all over the place. I’m not saying anything good or bad about Rudy but you can’t use any of the performances this year to prove a point.

Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on Aug 3, 2009 3:54 PM CDT reply actions  

I think the only conclusion that can be drawn is this..

The team has consistenly shown a low-OBP, high-SLG approach throughout his tenure. If the organization believes, as do many of us, that part of the development of this team into a perennnial contender is a better, more consistent plate approach, then something has to change.

As in other sports, the easiest thing to change first is the message.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 3, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I somewhat agree

Last year (I think) I started looking at some number to demonstrate the Rangers terrible OBP but what I found is it varies from year to year. Here is OBP and Slugging%.
           OBP/SLG
2009 – 25th/2nd
2008 – 3rd/1st
2007 – 22nd/13th
2006 – 12th/8th
2005 – 16th/1st
2004 – 19th/6th

OBP has been bad more often than good but often middle or lower 1/3. Slugging’s been a lot higher so maybe that has been at the expense of OBP but I don’t know that one could say that the Rangers are absolutely terrible at getting on base. They aren’t great but not terrible.

Someone mentioned in an another thread that OBP% is more valuable than SLG%. That may be, but in the immortal words of Mark McGwire, “who wants to see me hit some dinger?”

Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on Aug 3, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think the SLG has to take a huge hit to improve the OBP

I suspect that if you look at the teams around us in SLG, many of them probably rank quite a bit higher in OBP.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 3, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not going to double check but that's probably true

I saw Boston and NYY towards the top in both categories most years. That’s just obvious with Papi, Manny, Youk, Lowell, A-Rod, Abreu, Posada, Matsui, etc. That could just be team makeup but it could also be hitting philosophy.

Now that I look at it, Red Sox got rid of Ron Jackson after 2006 when they hit .269 and went to Dave Magaden. Red Sox had the second highest OBP in 2006 and 2nd in 2007.

Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on Aug 3, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

See my post higher up...

The teams right behind us in HRs are killing us in runs scored.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Aug 3, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is my point exactly

hitting is so random. the number of variables is simply ridiculous (macro-scale: pitching, fielding, ballpark, weather, day/night, situation; micro-scale: pitch guessing, location of the pitch, set-up of the fielder, etc.).

To judge a hitting coach, on this small a scale is idiotic. To get an idea at a hitting coaches worth, you have to look at the sum of his career. And Rudy’s has been FANTASTIC.

If the hitters aren’t hitting well based on the fact that Rudy isn’t putting in the hours, etc, then clearly someone in management would observe this and Rudy will be fired. I highly doubt after all these years that this is the case during this year when we are actually in a playoff race.

by BuckyB on Aug 3, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Among my pals who comment on DMN blogs

there are some really angry folks:

Posted by rudy can coach @ 5:35 PM Mon, Aug 03, 2009
Brett you are an idiot. “I don’t know what to make of Rudy these days.” Do you even read past blogs. Nolan himself said the players are not putting into action what Rudy is teaching them and that the onus is on the players, not the hitting coach. Too many players around the league come to Rudy to work on their swing, and he normally finds something to help them. How much of this is simply Davis not listening to Rudy? He himself said in the article he was more comfortable with his AAA coach because they had been together longer. Guess what – you can’t take your minor league coach with you wherever you go. You have to listen to the coach, discuss what you do with what he sees and put it into place. Sounds like a 23 year old who is whining because he couldn’t hit and he’s trying to find someone to blame. There are a lot of AAA players who have short term success in the bigs but can’t adjust once pitchers adjust to them. He needs to shut up and be coachable, which it doesn’t sound like he was being when he was in Arlington. He even admits Young and Kinsler do good with Rudy because they’ve been together for a while. It appears he’s not listening or being coachable. I hope that changes when he gets back. He is a very good defensive player at 1B and had good pop in the bat last year. I’d love to see him here and succeed, but he has to be coachable or he’ll be considered a AAAA player – too good for AAA and not good enough for the bigs. He needs to get his attitude and mind right. If Rudy is gone, there will be many players very dissatisfied and many who will struggle. Get off his back you jerkwad

And here I thought I’d taken the pansy way out and not really drawn much of a conclusion.

by Brett Perryman on Aug 3, 2009 5:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Man you just got...

S.E.R.V.E.D.

Jerkwad? Awesome.

I'm Ron Burgundy?

by Cecilio's Guante on Aug 3, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow

Didn’t know that Rudy reads the DMN blog

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by devsr on Aug 3, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

The ANUS?

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by Rodney on Aug 3, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's the problem

In one sentence he blames the players for not listening to Rudy then says Davis should be more coachable and listen like Ian and MY. If a coach can’t get the “message” across, who usually gets blamed?

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by NothinG on Aug 3, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

thats my biggest problem with the whole thing. even reasonable successful coaches are let go after awhile if thier message or delivery is getting stale. if you continue to coach the same way and your team isn’t putting it into place it is your job as a coach to get off your laurels and fix it. this whole “he is giving us the right advice. we just aren’t enacting his plan” BS is simply a players way of saying i’m not hitting without throwing anyone else under the bus. rudy needs to come out and say that he needs to be more proactive in addressing more than just the mechanics of his hitters swings…

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by ivysafety39 on Aug 3, 2009 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know whats suprisingly watchable,

MLB Tonight with Victor Rojas, John Hart and Al Leiter… its alot better, a whole lot better than any other group of baseball tonight crew that i’ve seen run out there by ESPN or the MLB network.

Im actually not annoyed by their commentary, and having two guys who worked for the Ranger’s helps cuz they actually know and talk about the Rangers.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Aug 3, 2009 6:31 PM CDT reply actions  

What about when Bucky Showalter is on the show

Not only do you have a guy who worked for the Rangers, you have a guy who is still being paid by the Rangers. But probably not hapily.

by Mark from OC on Aug 3, 2009 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

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