Monday morning Rangers stuff
Bah.
Jeff Wilson says yesterday's game was about the Rangers missing opportunities and not doing the things necessary to win.
Evan Grant runs through his thoughts on last night's game.
Ron Washington doesn't expect Pudge Rodriguez to be named the starting catcher, and is happy with how Taylor Teagarden is handling the pitching staff. In the same item, Wilson indicates that Brandon McCarthy, Eddie Guardado, Jarrod Saltalamacchia, and Esteban German are expected to be activated from the d.l. tomorrow, and Guillermo Moscoso and Willie Eyre are expected to be promoted.
Julio Borbon is working on improving his game and making adjustments as he gets more time in the majors.
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Win today, take the double header
and this team could be back to a half game… its not over yet.
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by FormerLSBUser on Aug 31, 2009 9:58 AM CDT reply actions
or... the team could have won yesterday and only needed 2 of 3 mon/tues
for that same scenario.
hard for me to fathom rangers take 3 of 3 when they could only get 1 of 3 over the weekend.
frustrating
defeatist pussy lives here
by sam in so cal on Aug 31, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Home vs. Road, Contender vs. Non-contender
Venue and opponent do have an impact on win expectancy.
by robert_d_wilfong on Aug 31, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
so the rangers lost yesterday b/c...
they were on the road, against a team four games back?
i thought it was because they imploded (shit the bed, so to speak).
defeatist pussy lives here
by sam in so cal on Aug 31, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Its also hard to believe that they would win 2/3 in NY and lose 2/3 in Minn, but it just happened
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by FormerLSBUser on Aug 31, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Lose today, lose the double header
and this team could be 6 games out of the playoffs
See? It’s easy
I mean, our ancestors did it, for christ’s sake.
Hank is the elephant in the room. When will he disappear?
by inactive lsb user on Aug 31, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, both are entirely possible.. which is still an upgrade from 100% dead in the water
the preceding post was a great success.
hey dshep
got this weeks desktop calender?
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by FormerLSBUser on Aug 31, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
This season has been remarkable
and enjoyable, but that doesn’t make losses like the two this weekend any easier to take. Yes, I’m ecstatic the team is contending, but now that they’re this close it’s heartbreaking. There is no agony in losing any single contest if you are 20 games out. If the team sucks this week it’s over.
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If the team sucks this week it’s over.
I really wish Brett Cecil threw with his right hand.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Aug 31, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Whoa Nellie
I wish Ron would play you every day.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
Yeah
F Ron. I’m really tired of him.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Aug 31, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Yep...
And I don’t understand him in LF either. Why not leave him in RF and put Hamilton in LF? If Josh has to be in a COF spot why move two guys instead of just one? I suppose it’s not a big deal though.
The biggest deal is putting him in the lineup everyday behind Josh. Wash will never do it though. Byrd has been a pretty good player, but he’s not a cleanup guy. I really get tired of seeing him swing at every first pitch.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
I would rathe rput Byrd
in LF and Josh in CF. Then nobody is out of position.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
Overall, its not that big of a deal
My guess is that since Hamilton has experience in RF, you stick with him there and let Cruz take over LF which isn’t as big of a transition as going from CF to a COF spot. I’d also guess that its a bit about next year too. They’ll probably move Borbon to CF on a more full time basis, put Hamilton in RF, and Cruz in LF.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
To me Cruz has the wheels
for Arlington’s big LF and that’s why I’m fine with him there.
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I don't really think there's much of a difference between Hamilton and Cruz so its a toss up for me
Both have the athletic tools to be great in any OF position and its all about the more mental aspect of the game for them. Both have also clearly shown a lot of improvement in that area over the past year.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Not much difference in speed maybe
but I prefer to make Hamilton run less, not as worried about Cruz’ health.
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To clarify
To me, it is perfectly legitimate to question Washington’s moves and wonder if the game might have turned out differently yesterday. It’s even perfectly legitimate to say he managed badly yesterday and it might have cost the team the game.
But to say he has cost the team several games this year because he is stupid crosses the line in a big way. And to only mention his name when blame is being assigned and to somehow forget he leads this group when giving credit is asinine.
This is my mantra here most days: It’s just not that simple.
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by t ball on Aug 31, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yep
There are a lot of things I disagree with Wash on, but the bottom line is that this team is winning and the manager just doesn’t have that much positive or negative control to be able to affect the team’s record that much.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Players win games...
…coaches (or managers in baseball’s case) lose games, and officials ruin games. It’s not the fairest way to view sports but sometimes it’s easier and more fun.
I have no objection to man walking on the moon.
by Chad Crudup on Aug 31, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions
If we did that
then there won’t be anything to talk about on this board except Josey and cake recipes
Wreck for mantra.
Hank is the elephant in the room. When will he disappear?
by inactive lsb user on Aug 31, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
This years Rangers are fun to Watch, But
When you have a guy at manager who has no clue and makes boneheaded moves (or lack of) it makes you think what could have been this season, a real manager and a couple of good clutch hitters and the rangers would be contenders, as it stands now they really are just a good team but in the west division with the Angels playing the way they are this is not the year, maybe if things are done right next year will be the one.
Larry Parrish Was Da Man!
Devils' advocate says
or, it makes you wonder, if the team had a different manager maybe the players don’t play as hard or as well and they’re in pretty much the same place or worse.
There is zero guarantee — and precious little in the way of increased odds even – that pinch hitting would have made any difference yesterday. I remain baffled that so many here can rapidly name several things to blame Washington for without giving him credit for anything the team does well.
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+1
Everyone seems to think there is a manager out there that is going to make the perfect call every time, get the players to respond to him and play their ass off, etc. I don’t agree with everything that RW does but I don’t get the absolute hate that several people here have for him.
72-57
Not too bad for a manager that doesn’t have a clue.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
by RangerMad on Aug 31, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
Now where's the mega-rec button??
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
But is is not possible...
…that a more competent manager would have a better record with this team? I’m not sure if there are a lot of managers that would have a better record with this bunch but I’m not naive enough to suggest that 15 games over .500 is a guarantee that RW is a smart manager.
I have no objection to man walking on the moon.
by Chad Crudup on Aug 31, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
But is "IT" not possible...
I have no objection to man walking on the moon.
by Chad Crudup on Aug 31, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Sure, it's possible
but it’s also possible that they’re playing that well because he has done some things right, too. Managing a team is a lot more than a few tactical moves with bullpen and bench players.
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You make a good point...
…I’m just saying that a winning record alone does not prove his competence. Maybe Buck Showalter (who I HATED, BTW) would have this team at 80-49 given the same personnel.
I have no objection to man walking on the moon.
by Chad Crudup on Aug 31, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Who is a "smart" manager in your opinion?
or one who is “more competent?”
Since we all know Wash manages with his gut, the alternative is your classic “by the book” guy. But does this “by the book” guy still bias his veterans over kids (i.e., Schowalter), leading to an equally frustrated fan base screaming for someone less rigid?
Besides, a manager’s decisions may affect 5 or 10 games a year, at most. Let’s say 10. If a given gut is right 50% of the time (his gut isn’t always wrong), then Texas goes 5-5 in those games. Generously, lets assume that “by the book” the Rangers are a .600 WP team (obviously they aren’t quite that good). So they’d end up winning 6 of 10 of those games had he not used his gut.
That is a 1 game difference for the random gut versus by-the-book. And that is a very liberal back of the envelope calculation.
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Aug 31, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm just saying don't throw 72-57 out there...
…and think that it proves that RW is a good manager. It is quite possible that several managers could have taken this team to the same record or a better one.
I have no objection to man walking on the moon.
by Chad Crudup on Aug 31, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Fair enough
But it is equally difficult to say that Ron Washington is a bad manager based on a few frustrating losses when globally this team has exceeded expectations.
I’ve never been a huge Washington fan; I think that had I been GM he wouldn’t have lasted through last season’s debacle. But at this point you could make a better case for Rudy Jaramillo needing to go than Washington. Washington’s job is to maximize productivity out of his players, which is hard to argue with (look at the roster, particularly the pitchers, and honestly say you expected them to be 72-57 at this point). Add in fostering a great environment for young kids (and important aspect of his job right now), and I am actually glad he’s our manager today.
Go Rice Owls!
You don't think Wash is biased?
He LOVES his veterans. Sosa. Byrd. Blalock. Andruw. Freakin’ Jerry Hairston, Jr.
All managers are biased and have their faults. But Wash is the one we see every day, so fans nitpick and second guess. That’s what we do.
The other team I follow closely is St.Louis. Trust me, even the great TLR drives me insane at least 3 or 4 times per week. It’s the nature of the beast.
I never said Wash wasn't biased towards veterans
Just that probably whatever dream manager everyone is dreaming about who would pinch hit for Andrus or Borbon yesterday is going to also be biased towards veterans. And probably would never have had Andrus or Borbon in the game in the first place. All managers are going to be biased towards their better players at the expense of youth, particularly if part of their job description is “win or you will lose your job”
And boo hoo about Sosa and Jones. First, they were signed by the front office, not Wash. Second, it isn’t like they were actually blocking any good players. Playing a veteran over a crappy guy who can’t get past AAA doesn’t mean he’s biased towards old dudes. What was he supposed to do with Blalock? He was the only first baseman on the team most of the last two months.
Go Rice Owls!
Well, he was supposed to pull Blalock for defensive reasons yesterday....
…..but as a friend told me “Wash would never do that. He’d view that as a slap in the face to a veteran.”
Wash hasn't shown a tendency to put in defensive replacements with one at-bat left this year
Why people would suddenly bitch about this, Mike Ogulnick above all, is just funny
I'll be on the phone lines, starting this semester.
This is our town. This is our radio.
Hank is the elephant in the room. When will he disappear?
by inactive lsb user on Aug 31, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Bobby Valentine
Bobby V is a smart manager IMO as well as a lot of others…I mention Bobby V as he is out there and available.
Foolish consistency is the hobgobblin of little minds - Emerson
by RangerEddie on Aug 31, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
RW has a better winning % this year with the Rangers
than he had in all but 2 of his 15 coaching season (and both of those seasons were with 2 solidly stacked Mets teams)
Never had more 87 wins as the manager of the Rangers
well
none of Bobby V’s teams in Texas were ever as good as this Rangers team is.
But the real knock on Valentine (and I like him and thought him as entertaining) is that he was Dusty Baker before there was Dusty Baker. Bobby Witt, Ed Correa, Jose Guzman…
Go Rice Owls!
The problem is that managers get too much credit and blame on everything
If you’re going to crucify them for the bad years, you give them the credit on the good years. Maybe a different manager would be better, but we know what Wash’s record is this season and that he has the support of the clubhouse. There’s not much more any other manager in the league could do. Also remember that every manager in the league makes a bunch of dumb moves that people disagree with.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Yep
I get being angry that the team lost a frustrating game. I don’t get the overwhelming urge to blame the same guy most every time it happens.
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not "most every time"
JD, hicks, ron, hank, davis, cj… it’s a rotation.
and right now, ron’s on the hot seat. he stays there until one of the other usual suspects takes over. it’s like reverse “king of the mountain”
defeatist pussy lives here
by sam in so cal on Aug 31, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
I suppose
I’m of the school that says managers don’t have a lot of effect on the team’s W-L record so I don’t understand the vitriol directed at Washington. And I also feel that the bullpen has been leveraged pretty well this year overall, and he may be improving his tactical weaknesses enough that we can accept them along with his player-friendly strengths.
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People who go to "the school that managers don't have a lot of effect on the team's W/L record"
take a short bus to school.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 31, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Prove it
Prove that managers have a lot of effect on the team’s W/L record. Not little stories or enecdotes but actual proof.
I’ll be waiting.
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
Earl Weaver, Bobby Valentine (see 1986)
Billy Martin, Don Wakamatsu, Dick Williams, Jim Leyland, Whitey Herzog, Bobby Cox, Davey Johnson are all examples of managers who have had a lot of effect a a team’s w/l record.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 31, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Cackle.
Hank is the elephant in the room. When will he disappear?
by inactive lsb user on Aug 31, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Don Wakamatsu is the reason the Mariners suck less this year?
Based on what proof? But more importantly, is Don Wakamatsu’s effect on the team greater than an “average” manager, and if so, based on what proof. All you are doing is simply picking teams that have showed a turnaround and plugged in their manager’s names.
By your logic, Buck Showalter should be included. Why isn’t he?
by FuturePants on Aug 31, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Don Wakamatsu is not THE reason the M's suck less
this year but he is a reason.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 31, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Based on what?
You really need to read more carefully.
by FuturePants on Aug 31, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Why don't you concentrate more on gossip (and what players say in a bar setting when everything should be off the record)
and let some of the other posters do some of the heavy lifting in here?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
Wait wait.
I’M the one who “concentrates on gossip?” You are the one who cites Disgruntled Kevin Mench as gospel.
You are a contradicting moron, Josey Donuts. You really are.
Thanks for the "proof" JW
Bobby Valentine’s winning percentage with the Rangers was .490, he lost 91 games one season and he finished first once in 15 seasons. That’s his effect on his teams?
Jim Leyland lost 108! once. He also lost 98 in his first season and 87, 88 (twice), 89 and 90. He’s got a .496 WP% in 18 years. Not great.
Whitey had a .341 WP% with the Rangers. Oof. He must have had a wonderful effect on the team.
Bobby Cox lost 93 and 94 games in his first two seasons.
Billy Martin went 68 and 94 in his last season with the A’s. Certainly left on a high note.
What have I proven? Nothing just like you.
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
Cowboy
Never said a manager had a positive effect on the w/l record every year.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
Actually
You really never answered anything.
When confronted with your own stupidity, you do the same thing every time: hide.
I didn't hide.
If you don’t think those managers made a difference, just look at the standings.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
So Wash is doing a great job this year???
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Just check the standings.
Hank is the elephant in the room. When will he disappear?
by inactive lsb user on Aug 31, 2009 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow, Josey, even for you
Congrats on missing the point completely and totally. Given the context of the conversation above, it seems pretty obvious that I meant managers don’t have a lot of effect on W-L record with in-game tactical decisions. Obviously, in all other ways they have an effect.
Either you missed the point or you think that Earl Weaver was great because he knew when to pinch hit.
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Earl Weaver knew how to manage both players
and the game in front of him.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
Duh
Thanks, genius. But I’d wager that managing players was far more important to his success than pinch hitting or any of the other things Wash gets excoriated for here so often. Wash is no Weaver, to be sure, but people regularly exaggerate the importance of these kinds of decisions, and the impact on the game they might have.
I have no confidence that the game would have been won if only he had done this or that move yesterday.
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True...
We just lost a game where:
a) we only scored 3 runs
b) we dropped and misplayed balls all day
c) we had the bases loaded on NO OUTS and couldn’t get a run in
d) our ace gave up a 2B,3B and HR in the same inning
e) our bullpen gave up 3 runs late
and yet somehow it’s the manager’s fault.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 31, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
good points
I think Wash takes a little too much heat for his tactical decisions here, but I also think that some here give him a little too much credit as far as getting the most out of his players.
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
That certainly is harder to measure
but the players all speak well of him and seem to trust him. Winning begets good chemistry to be sure, but the players liked him last year as well.
I sigh, or even shout, at some of his in-game choices, but the math we talk about on some of those moves is often pretty miniscule when it comes to the odds of a run scored or prevented. Same with lineups, the difference from one lineup to the next is a tiny fraction of a run, or maybe a couple of runs over the course of an entire season, but we talk as if it were the difference between the team scoring 3 or 10 runs.
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the constant handwringing over the lineups
strikes me as just silly.
Yeah, Marlon Byrd shouldn’t be hitting 4th. But it doesn’t really matter that much – it isn’t like he’s putting Teagarden leadoff and Hamilton in the 8 hole. Complaining about where guys are hitting is just a sign of being frustrated without having any real insight.
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Aug 31, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
i was just pointing out the perceived pattern
defeatist pussy lives here
by sam in so cal on Aug 31, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
heh

Hank is the elephant in the room. When will he disappear?
by inactive lsb user on Aug 31, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Look at JW's list of good managers
Hell, he includes a guy named “Whitey.”
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
And not a one of em a veteran...
Coincidence?
I thinks not.
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
We'll show you Obama's birth certificate as soon as you show us Sarah Palin's high school diploma...
by Brian Thomas on Aug 31, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Time for them to stop messing around.
It’s silly, at this point, to say that any one series or game is a “big game.” They’re all huge, and the bottom line is that if the Rangers don’t start rattling off 6, 7 or 8 wins in a row, they have no legitimate hope of catching the WC spot. Going 3-1 or 3-2 (or 1-2 vs. stoopid Minnesota) is not going to cut it.
don't know about Salty coming back
His throws did not look good last night. He threw to the bag on a steal attempt but after warming up the pitcher at the start of an inning he over threw the second baseman. Twice. He also threw wildly back to the pitcher once during the game. My guess is that he has something mental going on.
thanks for the first hand observation
That is very troubling, hope he gets it fixed this offseason. I also hope we don’t see him behind the plate for the Rangers while we are still in contention.
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
Salty
needs to come back next year.
He’s been horrific since June.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 31, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Does anything sum up this season better?
Yes they have seven games left with the Angels but it’s moot if you can’t beat the Blue Jays, Indians and Orioles.
http://trsullivan.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/08/monday_morning_managerseason_o.html
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Aug 31, 2009 10:55 AM CDT reply actions
I've got to say...
…I’m pretty excited at the prospect of Julio Borbon being the long-term solution at leadoff. Dude’s got wheels.
"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009
hopefully his range can componsate some
Must kill Moe. Weeeeeeeee
by Baseball North on Aug 31, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions
CJ quote....
“Somebody sacrificed a chicken for that,” Wilson said of the Twins’ rally. “To give up five or six ground balls and have a lot of them turn into hits, there’s nothing you can say.”
I’d say when you continually walk the lead-off hitter and give up hits on 0-2 counts, you’re helping to SAVE a lot of chickens! CJ MAY be really smart (?), but maybe he thinks too much and “it’s hurting the ballclub”…..someone (Maddux, Wash) needs to tell him, with his stuff, quit fuckin around, going so deep in counts, etc…..
I dunno
(Disclaimer: I missed all of yesterday’s game and didn’t watch it after reading the nuclear holocaust that was the postgame thread.)
Walking the leadoff hitter should be a fine in kangaroo court.
But when you get a bunch of ground balls, I think it’s reasonable to expect that SOME of them will go for outs instead of hits. It’s hard to argue with that assumption.
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08
Can't pin it on CJ
He made some really good pitches in that leadoff at-bat. CJ got squeezed on his second pitch, and the last pitch was not far from being a strike.
CJ did get a groundball for a potential double play, but it found the hole and Cruz booted it.
Then, CJ got another ground ball right at Blalock, who then made a godawful throw to home to allow Gomez to score.
Then, there’s a successful squeeze for a hit since CJ tried going home with it. (Runner on 3rd thanks to A) Cruz’ misplay in left and advancement on groundball to Hank).
Then we finally got two more groundouts.
If you take away Cruz’ mishap in left, you have runners at 1st and 2nd for that groundball at Hank and you either get 1 out, or a double play with no runs scoring and the inning is over.
The next inning, if we just get two deep flyballs from Andrus and Borbon, we tie it. But we couldn’t even get 1 run home with the bases loaded, which is just an epic fail.
On the squeeze
CJ made the right play — shovel it to Pudge and duck. The problem was that Blalock charged also, so no one was covering first.
"we’re a bunch of knee-jerking yahoos who like new and shiny things." -- FirebatM3 July 10, 2009
I wasn't questioning that move
It was just a well-executed squeeze play, and CJ didn’t have any other choice in the matter.
It was just sad how fruitless the attempt seemed, and that he got stuck in that situation due to mishaps made by the players behind him.
40 man roster situation
Ok, we all agree McCarthy takes the one empty spot tomorrow. But if Salty is still hurt and the Rangers decide to add Richardson, or another needed bat such as Freel, or both, who is gone? Can they release Jones? Not sure because I don’t know if you can do that with someone currently on the DL.
Don't know why theyd add Richardson
They have Max who could be the third catcher/emergency bat
As for Freel thats another story. My guess would be Arias or German get dropped for him if it happens
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
nothing
German isn’t exactly a HOFer though
Just giving you the options that will probably happen
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
German filled in impressively after Ariass stunk it up in Oakland
His plate discipline is a plus
He gets my bench spot over Freel
Again not disagreeing with you
Just giving you the options most likely to occur IF we choose to add Freel
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Freel can play the OF, as well as many IF positions
There’s your reasoning.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Actually
German played 39 games in the OF for the Royals last year. He will be with the Rangers tomorrow; that’s a no brainer. But I think they should find a way to add Freel, too.
by Mark from OC on Aug 31, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Did not know that, ty.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Freel is good company ;)
Hank is the elephant in the room. When will he disappear?
by inactive lsb user on Aug 31, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Freel, or Farney?
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
No way German gets cut at this point.
He is with the Rangers tomorrow.
by Mark from OC on Aug 31, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Is Max playing or is he hurt?
Also, forgot that Mendoza was still on the 40. He won’t be this winter, so might as well let him go now.
by Mark from OC on Aug 31, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Why drop him this winter?
He has options.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
Because he has show on multiple occasions he can not pitch in the majors
by Mark from OC on Aug 31, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
and yet hes only 25 years old
I don’t give up on him yet unless I absolutely have to
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
He's not any part of the Rangers future
The Rangers have a handful of pitchers who are Rule 5 eligible after the season. I would add and of the Rule 5 eligible Michael Ballard, Fabio Castillo, Brendan Garr, Clayton Hamilton, Matt Nevarez, Beau Jones, A.J. Murray, Zach Phillips, OR Beau Vaghn before giving Mendoza another chance.
by Mark from OC on Aug 31, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Matt Nevarez is an Astro
And Clayton Hamilton? Really?
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 31, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Forgot that he was part of the Catcher trade.
But yes, Hamilton > Mendoza.
by Mark from OC on Aug 31, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Clayton Hamilton
He’s a 27 year old minor league lifer. I have no idea why you’d add him to the 40 man roster over Mendoza.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 31, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Because neither player will play a part of the Rangers future
The Rangers have seen Mendoza on multiple occassions. On multiple occassions he has shown he can’t handle major league hitters, no matter what the situation is. He does not get another chance. I would without a doubt give Clayton Hamilton a chance before I gave Mendoza another one.
by Mark from OC on Aug 31, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
That is just stupid
Hamilton is a career minor leaguer with unimpressive numbers. He is not a major leaguer.
And while no one is arguing that Mendoza has been good in the majors up to this point, he has a ML quality pitch. One that can be downright dominant when its on. His failures in the majors have come at the ages of 23, 24, and 25 which gives him a little leeway IMO. We have one more year of options on him and unless we absolutely have to we don’t need to be throwing him away and damn sure not for Clayton fucking Hamilton.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Then what you wrote was just stupider.
First, neither has a future with the Rangers
Second, Clayton Hamilton has been better even in the minors than Mendoza
- Mendoza has 2 more years in the minors that Hamilton, so he has had more chances
- Mendoza’s stats in the minors: 4.59 ERA in 828 innings, 1.43 WHIP, 10.1 hits/9.
- Hamiton’s stats in the minors: 4.31 ERA in 455 innings, 1.29 WHIP, 8.8 hits/9
This makes Mendoza dominant how? Do you think he will get better even though he has been bad in 8 minor league seasons already? People need to learn when to cut bait.
by Mark from OC on Aug 31, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Really?
Mendoza has, on occasions, a very dominant sinker.
He has had on-days and off-days at the ML level where he has been like two different people.
If he harnesses his sinker and gets his off-speed stuff under control, he could be a valuable piece.
Clayton Hamilton, at best, will get a cup of coffee some-day as a 3rd string injury replacement to sit on the bench and be the backup to the backup utility guy.
Hamiltons a pitcher
But otherwise I agree with everything you said
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Haha, thanks for the correction.
Backup to the backup longman role then.
Huh?
Mendoza has not had on days in the majors for the last 2 years, or almost none at least. In 26 games 2008 and 2009, Mendoza has only 3 relief appearances where he didn’t give up a hit and one good start. I wouldn’t qualify that as having on-days and off-days when only 8% of his appearances, in not a small sample, have been effective.
by Mark from OC on Aug 31, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you think any of them would be taken in the rule 5 draft?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
Do you think Mendoza would?
And if he is, do you think it would be a negative thing for the Rangers? Where else are the Rangers going to get 50k for him?
by Mark from OC on Aug 31, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
DO you even know how the rule 5 works?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Do you?
Basics for you – not on 40 and eligible, team can draft him from you for 50k, must stay on major league roster all season (exceptions for DL and rehab assignments), but to keep him and send him down you must first offer him back to the original team for 25k.
by Mark from OC on Aug 31, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Mendoza wouldn't be rule 5 eligible if we DFAd him
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Not sure about that, you might be right
If the Rangers DFA him now and no team claims him, he will obviously not be on the 40 at the end of the year. But just because he was already DFA’ed once in his career, does that neccessarily mean no team can draft him in the Rule 5 draft this winter? I think they still can still draft him but am not positive.
by Mark from OC on Aug 31, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
If Mendoza hit the waiver wire today
somebody would claim him.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
Yep
And he’d be a minor league free agent after the season, if by some chance he did clear.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 31, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
How can you say that though
The guy is 25 years old. Sure he has sucked so far but whats to say next year it all clicks for him. As bad as hes been he does have a pitch that, if it clicks, can be a pretty damn dominant pitch. I don’t want to drop him and let some other team get to wait that extra year and see him turn it around just so we can add a Ryan Freel or Micheal Ballard
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
If they add Richardson
then Salty could go on the 60 day DL. Arias has to be on the bubble. Maybe Diamond.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
If Arias is on the bubble....
then hand me a MF pin quick.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
I don't think they have given up on Salty for the rest of the season yet
And if Diamond is on the bubble, Mendoza’s bubble bursted earlier this year.
by Mark from OC on Aug 31, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Interesting fact
Rangers are a .558% team against teams above .500%
Rangers are a .558% team against teams less than or at .500%
Damn that's strange....
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Another interesting (albeit useless) game with numbers
If the Rangers, Angels, BoSox keep their same W% against each team (i.e. Angels are 3-9 v. Tex = .250 W% * 7 games left v. Tex.), the expected value records are as follows:
Tex (93 – 69)
LAA (94 – 68)
Bos (94 – 68)
Too bad… I actually thought we had a chance
(procrastinating)
Fun times with BuckyB!
Hank is the elephant in the room. When will he disappear?
by inactive lsb user on Aug 31, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
look at it slightly different:
LAA = 77-52
TEX = 72-57
assume that TEX beats LAA all seven remaining games:
LAA = 77-59
TEX = 79-57
LAA against teams other than TEX = 74-43 (.632)
TEX against teams other than LAA = 63-54 (.538)
LAA 26 remaining games against teams other than TEX = 16-10
TEX 26 remaining games against teams other than LAA = 14-12
It seems that if TEX loses one of seven against LAA, they aren’t going to win division – based on the methodology you were using.
defeatist pussy lives here
by sam in so cal on Aug 31, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
wrong
You used their records against ALL other teams
I used their records against ONLY the teams that are specifically coming up in their schedule
both exercises are equally valueless
Value
They gave me something to read while waiting for a server to boot up…
Plenty of value in the exercise.
by Oracle Galvez on Aug 31, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
No, that can't be true!
Everyone knows this buncha mental midgets fold like a cheap suit when playing teams that “know how to win”, “have been there before”, and/or have a “championship lineage”…
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Yep, beating the Angels, Red Sox and Yanks Means Nadda if
they can’t beat Jays, Indians or O’s we will see what happens from here on, maybe things will turn around
Larry Parrish Was Da Man!
Do the Rangers have any other pitchers that could be brought in during the 8 or 9 other than
CJ, Feliz, and frankfranKKKK? Ron seems to be going with a short bullpen.
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
DOD perhaps?
Nips will move into a 6th-7th role with BMac going back into the roto, I think.
After that, who could you trust that will be brought up when rosters expand?
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
I can't think of anyone...
Roster expansion is only going to help us in terms of saving the “real guys” from having to pitch in VERY low leverage situations.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Strop
If he continues to prove himself he’d be a dark horse for the 8th, if only in a one-out role.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Aug 31, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I would like to see him
be the “fireman” on days Feliz is not available.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
BAD Radio set to discuss "Scott Kazmir, Tom Hicks.... where do you think this is going?"
next.
Don’t think there will be any talk of ferns (genius bit) in JD’s office so it’s safe for LSB to listen.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
Can't listen at work, but I hope they include these pertinent points:
1. No way TX takes on that kind of contract right now, obviously
2. Since TX and Tampa are so close in wild card race would dealing with TX have been an option for Tampa? Maybe at an increased price in prospects?
3. No one knows what Kazmir is going to pitch like, lots of red flags. He’s been better lately, a sign of improved health and magic of Rick Peterson, or just small sample fluke?
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
didn't they already offer Kazmir to us before July31
by blueballlefty on Aug 31, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
There was some talk about a Kazmir-to-Texas deal that was probably not as serious as reports might have suggested
by Joey Matschulat on Aug 31, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
That means
that a couple of years from now we’ll all be trading comments here about how a Kazmir for Beavan deal was turned down because of money or something like that.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
Doesn;t look like Salty will be back this year.
Saltalamacchia said he started feeling numbness in the shoulder in the fifth inning Sunday and, by the seventh, he had a hard time with feeling in his hands.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
I hope he heals up nicely
But I’m glad Teagarden doesn’t get crowded out.
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
We'll show you Obama's birth certificate as soon as you show us Sarah Palin's high school diploma...
by Brian Thomas on Aug 31, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
For now, we do.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
I'm going through the same thing
Seeing a doctor about it next week. Partial numbness/tingling in left hand, along with arm weakness. Aggravated by cycling and raising arm over head. I wonder if I have TOS. Wouldn’t surprise me since I have a non-union fracture of the collar bone in my left shoulder that is probably messing with the normal arrangement of the stuff in my shoulder.
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 31, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
You have quickly become the most obnoxious poster on this entire site
No one cares what you think, little boy.
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
We'll show you Obama's birth certificate as soon as you show us Sarah Palin's high school diploma...
by Brian Thomas on Aug 31, 2009 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs

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