Tuesday a.m. Rangers things
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 4, 2009 11:27 AM CDT
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That's not exactly how you want the longest road trip of the season, a road trip that could make or break the season, to start. That's the first game the Rangers have lost all season when they were ahead going into the 9th.
Jeff Wilson notes that two hits in the inning were on balls that would normally have been outs, but that ended up going for hits because of where Joaquin Arias and Michael Young were positioned.
Brett Perryman also has some thoughts on last night's game.
Nelson Cruz is apparently day-to-day with a sprained ankle, although that's the sort of injury that could easily lead to a d.l. stint. Given that Cruz and Michael Young have been the main guys hitting lately, that would be a huge blow.
There are stories from Jeff Wilson and from Evan Grant about Neftali Feliz's very impressive major league debut, and from reading the comments on the DMN blog, there appear to be a lot of people who want him to immediately replace C.J. Wilson has closer. Because, apparently, in those folks minds, Wilson has been so terrible this year, despite the fact that that opinion doesn't match up with reality.
T.R. Sullivan says the Rangers are aiming to make the playoffs, but need Ian Kinsler and Josh Hamilton to snap out of their slumps.
At 4 1/2 back in the West and 3 back in the Wild Card, I'm not exactly holding my breath in regards to the playoffs.
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A 35-23 record
the rest of the way would put the Rangers in the playoffs.
Do-able? Very much so.
Likely? Another story given the state of this offense.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 4, 2009 11:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You beat me to it.
4.5 can be made up pretty quickly, given the right circumstances. A very critical week for the Rangers here.
As for the offense, I’m sure Rudy has done everything he can think of to get them going. I wonder if he has considered bringing in Coolbaugh (or someone else), just to get a different look at the problem and maybe some different ideas on how to help some of these guys.
"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young
by randyd on Aug 4, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We could very easily be staring at a 1.5-2.5 game deficit by this time next week...
Or we could be 7 back.. I love being in a pennant race….
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 4, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So when they DL Cruz
do they call up Davis?
by j-r-d on Aug 4, 2009 11:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Borbon plz
if they are going to play him. If not, call up Boggs.
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by RangerMad on Aug 4, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know a dude elsewhere on the internet that is crowing that Feliz is going to suck.
Because he only has 9 mph difference between his fastball and changeup. . .
by philkid3 on Aug 4, 2009 11:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
how about a 18 mph difference
between his gas and his breaking stuff?
by Garcia on Aug 4, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
To steal a classic line...
“That’s baseball porn”
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by bking on Aug 4, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
9 or 10 mph is what you need
you may like it to be 1 or 2 mph slower, but that is not his problem. The problem is location. He threw his changeup up alot yesterday and if he keeps that down, hitters will most definitely struggle against him.
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by NothinG on Aug 4, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
THT agrees with the speed differential
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Aug 4, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude is clearly a moron
But it’s still up for debate whether that was even actually a changeup. I’ve seen it referred to as a change, a two seamer, and a splitter. Whatever it was, it was dirty, and it’s stupid to think that he’s going to suck based on his arsenal of a 90 mph something or other, a low 80s breaker with some filthy movement and a legendarily awesome 98-102 heater.
"andruw jones hits 3 HRS at LA of Anaheim last nite after hitting zero at LA of LA as Dodger in all of '08. thats nuts." SI_JonHeyman
by WestTxAg06 on Aug 4, 2009 12:14 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously it may not be his change.
And someone else pointed that out to him. But even if it is, that’s no kiss of death at all.
by philkid3 on Aug 4, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone brought up Felix Hernandez's 5 mph difference to him.
And he said because Felix only throws it 15% of the time, he barely uses it.
. . . 15% is in the top 30 most frequent change up throwers. 20% would put you in the top 10.
by philkid3 on Aug 4, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Rangers aren't too likely to make the playoffs
but the conventional wisdom amongst most fans if laughable. They weren’t terribly likely to make the playoffs when the Rangers were ahead 2-0 either.
The Rangers bullpen has the highest WPA in all of MLB, and Wilson has been a big part of that success. Daniels and Washington both deserve credit for this. Daniels and his staff acquired and Washington has leveraged. Some of their success is unsustainable (great looking strand rates, etc.) but they have performed.
Things like Arias leading off are a bigger issue to me than anything involving the bullpen. People are just blind sometimes.
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by t ball on Aug 4, 2009 11:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I am curious.
What is your opinion of Kinsler?
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by RangerMad on Aug 4, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great player
in a terrible rut right now, like Hamilton. Kinsler’s improved defense this year has been pretty important.
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by t ball on Aug 4, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reason I ask
is that you quote WPA above for the bullpen. Many around here will look at Ian’s OPS and proclaim him to be a great or even superstar player. They fail to take into account how he has played since April which is reflected in his -0.21 WPA.
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by RangerMad on Aug 4, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WPA is stictly offensive stat look at value!
Where Kinsler plus defense would have been the difference in last nite’s game. His total value so far is 12.4 m behind only Cruz 15.6 and MY 12.6
by diamond_dave on Aug 4, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Slightly unrelated
I’m not really a fan of their dollar values. I think their RAR and WAR stats are pretty accurate, but I don’t think the dollar values of players accurately reflects the current market.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
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-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Aug 4, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with this
it’s as if they didn’t adjust when the market changed and all of the values seem inflated.
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by t ball on Aug 4, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read some article the other day where the author had adjusted the figure to $4M/win
That seems more in line with reality.
by Joey Matschulat on Aug 4, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we have a cash for clunkers deal?
Maybe the government would help pay if we traded in some older players…
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by t ball on Aug 4, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not silly enough to believe last night alone made a huge difference in the playoff race.
That doesn’t stop me from being pissed at letting a game that should have been over go away when we need every win we can get. Is the emotional response really probably on par with the actual loss? Probably not, but whatever.
by philkid3 on Aug 4, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a shocker that people think CJ sucks because of last night
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-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Aug 4, 2009 11:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's almost like people are in the starter's blocks ready to run him down...
That game was not the fault of CJ, no of positioning, nor of anything other than execution. The A’s got some well-placed (pronounced “lucky”) hits, which better fielders would have made the play on, but I’m not going to blast the defense either considering how well it has played this year.
Should MY have been able to at least knock down that ball? Yes, IMO. Should Arias have taken a better route to that ball so that he didn;t let it play him?? Yes again, IMO. But my overriding takeaway from last night was Feliz by a mile, and even a tough loss like that hasn’t harshed my buzz one bit.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 4, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would agree it was lack of execution by us. Why would we put out rookie at 2nd base in the 9th when
Omar Vizquel – arguable one of the best defensive infielders in recent history is on the bench?
we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"
by eclou on Aug 4, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is everyones (mostly) favorite punching bag.
CJ is right when he said that they didn’t hit the ball hard off of him. There are definitely times when luck is not on his side.
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by RangerMad on Aug 4, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
CJ does seem to get
pretty weak fielding behind him, for whatever reason.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Aug 4, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know people that thought he sucked before last night.
Mostly based off of poor performance last year, when injured.
by diamond_dave on Aug 4, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why are so many folks acting like 4.5 back is insurmountable...
much less the 3 game WC lead. Geez; why don’t we just lock down the playoffs right now??
No, seriously; since no team in the history of ever has overcome such a HUGE lead…
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 4, 2009 11:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Because very, very few teams...
…have come back from 4.5 down at this point in the season.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 4, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure you are right
but do you have any figures on this?
by BuckyB on Aug 4, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll bet one could scare them up if they tried.
But FWIW, the un-adjusted BP playoff odds report gives the Rangers an 18% chance of overcoming that.
Wild card is a little better than 1 in 4, though.
by philkid3 on Aug 4, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm gonna call BS until I see the numbers..
4.5 games with 58 to play. I bet the number is at least 10 in the last 40 years alone.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 4, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll bet it's about once every five years.
by philkid3 on Aug 4, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
'93 Braves
two.
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
by TheJeezus on Aug 4, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
'95 Mariners
there’s one.
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
by TheJeezus on Aug 4, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Off the top of my head
NYY was down 14.5 games to Boston in ’78.
Baltmore was 7.5 down or somesuch to the Red Sox in ’74 in late August.
Colorado was 5 down on Sept 22 and won the division.
Philadelphia was 3.5 out on Sept 10 last year.
Philadelphia was 7 gamaes out on September 12 2007
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 4, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We need the Mets in our division.
"Ho visto il tuo agire, non solo rendono per me. Basta un sacco di fluff".
by scoop16 on Aug 4, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And to win every single September game
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Aug 4, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This link shows 6 huge ones in the last 40 years, and doesn't include 4 of yours..
http://baseball.about.com/od/majorleaguehistory/tp/pennantcollapses.htm
So that makes 10 right there.
We control our destiny with those head-to-head games, but we’re going to have to start hitting on all cylinders (pun intended)
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 4, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now how many teams have failed when back that far?
by philkid3 on Aug 4, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ummm... more??
What’s your point?? That it isn’t a lock that we catch up??
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 4, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Adam's point was that it's impossible.
I think it was that not many do. 10 in 40 years isn’t a lot if there are a lot more than 10 in 40 years with a chance to. Which would agree with what he said.
by philkid3 on Aug 4, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know...
My beef is that Adam seems so locked in on what the numbers say is likely to happen that he sometimes loses sight of the hope built into the game, IMHO
Everybody whose numbers differ from their track record is going to regress immediately, stuff like that…
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 4, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, well. . .
The odds are a team that’s 4.5 back at this point will miss the playoffs. It’s likely to happen. Making the playoffs is far from probable. Etc.
I dont’ think he’s wrong for saying that. Sure it could happen, but the numbers do, in fact, say otherwise and he’s right for paying attention to evidence.
He’s a lawyer.
by philkid3 on Aug 4, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it's perception..
But “don’t hold your breath” is on par with “stick a fork in them” in terms of degree of faith.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 4, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree.
I thought stick a fork in them was barely over the top. I didn’t agree with it but thought that a lot of the vitirol thrown towards it was just homerism.
Don’t hold your breath, though, I completely agree with.
by philkid3 on Aug 4, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have little faith...
…this team will make the playoffs in 2009.
I’d put it somewhere between 10 and 20%.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 4, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you're telling me there's a chance
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
by WyoRanger on Aug 4, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm about as pessimistic as you usually, I think.
But I’ll give the playoff chances a little bit better. Not much.
by philkid3 on Aug 4, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd put the number around 20% as well
But to me, that’s a decent chance – one worth embracing given our sordid past.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 4, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well sure.
The reason I’m excited despite the fact that I’m fairly sure we’re not making the playoffs is because I’m a Rangers fan.
by philkid3 on Aug 4, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You really think Abreu and Morales are going to hit .400 the rest of the year
and that Josh and Ian are going to hit .220? I don’t think so. It is this which moves me to believe that number is closer to 30-40%.
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by Parman on Aug 4, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think so, either.
But that’s the only reason I’d go as high as 20-25% for the division.
by philkid3 on Aug 4, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
to that point...
texas’ starting pitching stands to get worse
angels’ starting pitching stands to get better
by sam in so cal on Aug 4, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The ending is not scripted.
This ain’t “Reality TV”…
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"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Aug 4, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's pulling a Wash...
Going strickly by the numbers and odds. : )
by AceJC on Aug 4, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think he suggested it's impossible.
Just that the odds are greatly stacked against us. It’s very hard to do and the outlook isn’t getting rosier.
by FuturePants on Aug 4, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I spent a half hour on it
I would bet that 20 teams have come back from a 3.5 game deficit at this point of the season or later since 1960. Maybe 25-30.
I named 12 and didn’t include the ‘64 Phils or ’62 Giants. There’s 14 off the top of my head.
I also wonder how many teams have won 94+ games since the Wild Card came along and didn’t make the playoffs?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 4, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're 4.5 games back in the division
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Aug 4, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And it's 3 games out
not 4.5 games as long as the Wild Card exists and we’re still eligible.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 4, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it would feel less insurmountable
if we had the ability to make a few waiver wire trades and take on some salary, but it sounds like we don’t. I’ll cheer for this team all the way till the end, but I don’t have high hopes for this year.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Aug 4, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would feel less insurmountable
if Kinsler and Hamilton were healthy and hitting, and our rotation wasn’t wracked with injuries.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Aug 4, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not worried about the rotation at all now
Its 100% the offense that I’m worried about. The run prevention is good enough to get us in the playoffs.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Aug 4, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this too
and maybe a healthy millwood, kinsler and hamilton, along with feliz and holland, will be enough of a shot in the arm to help us keep pace and even pull ahead over the next two months. i can’t write them off yet, but I’d sure feel better if I knew they could pull the trigger on a smaller deal to address an area of need.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Aug 4, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's almost what makes me hopeful
Ian and Josh cannot continue to suck (or be injured) can they?
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
by WyoRanger on Aug 4, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd feel better
if they could be back for the Angels series :) Now with Cruz getting injured, thats three pretty big cogs in this offense that may not be there for the angels. Thats a pretty huge cause for concern.
While I don’t think we are out of it yet, there is a chance that after this week we are. There is also a chance we are right in the middle of it.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Aug 4, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LAA 2004 - down 4 games on September 4
Seatte 95 – Down something like 12 games on August 20
Atlanta 93 – Down 9 games on August 11
Atlanta 91 – Down 4.5 games on August 3
KC 84 – Down 5.5 games on August 22
NY Mets 69 – Down 9 games on August 16
NY Mets 73 – Down 11.5 games on August 5
That’s what, 12 examples I found in 10 minutes?
There are many more examples to be found. Is it likely that the Rangers come back? Probably not likely but that doesn’t mean you give up.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 4, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
at least we’re not 20 something games out like we were last year
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
by hinduplaya on Aug 4, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
7 of the 12 examples I provided came
when there was no Wild Card Avenue. We are still eligible for the Wild Card the last time I checked.
Nobody should give up in here and that means holding the Ranger FO accountable for moves made or not made down the stretch.
I heard Thadwick Levine on the pre-game show last night talking a good game about how they “went in the trenches the last 5 days and fleshed ot every potential opportunity” which plays well with some people but if you wanna impress, do something.
Strange dynamic going on in here wouldn’t you say, me, Josey Wales telling everybody to keep their chin up and that we’re still in This Thing.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 4, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This Thing
You’re only saying it because you’re able to twist it in to a bizarre bash fest of the front office.
by philkid3 on Aug 4, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
People act like 4.5 is insurmountable
so they can feel free to talk about things like bringing Chris Davis back up to The Show. It also takes the pressure off the Ranger FO to do something to improve the club. If you’re out of the race, why make a deal?
We have two avenues to make it and 94 wins should get you there or at least make the last ten days of the season very dramatic.
Boston has a very tough schedule and is a team depending on a lot of older players. We also get them for three games later this month.
We also have a ton of games left with LAA (who will cool off).
Running thru the streets with your arms in the air claiming the sky is falling at this point is silly.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 4, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's right, genius
You have me pegged.
I know full well the Rangers have a great chance of winning, but I’m acting like they aren’t because it is more important for me to defend the front office than see the organization succeed.
Dumbass.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 4, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
Yes dumb.
But I think everyone is getting on you about the 4.5/3 back thing because you seem so willing to ‘give up’ as it were. Obviously, the chances aren’t as good now as they were a month ago. Also, obviously this team has some pretty big flaws. But since when do you have to have a team with no holes to have a shot at the playoffs in September?
Knowing what the odds for the playoffs are, we all realize that it’s not the most likely scenario. But it’s still miles better than where the Rangers have been the past few years, the future looks bright, and most good teams that make the World Series get some luck anyways. The Rangers aren’t the best team in baseball, but I don’t think it’s a complete joke to put them in the pack of ‘contenders’ either.
by GhettoBear04 on Aug 4, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In all fairness ...
you do give off a non-Feliz vibe when you talk about the Rangers playoff chances.
You should try to be more Feliz-ee when you post. You’ll smile more.
by Athos on Aug 4, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keep ending posts with
“I’m not holding my breath” and “You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers playoff chances for 2009”, and that’s what we’ll all assume.
I’m not saying you’ve been all doom and gloom, you’ve obviously been happy at some of the fantastic development moments of the kids lately, but when it comes to their playoff chances and actual team performance this year…….
by GhettoBear04 on Aug 4, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not holding my breath for the Rangers to make the playoffs.
That doesn’t mean I’m giving up.
by philkid3 on Aug 4, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so they can feel free to talk about things like bringing Chris Davis back up to The Show. It also takes the pressure off the Ranger FO to do something to improve the club. If you’re out of the race, why make a deal?
I agree with the rest of what you said, but not the ridiculous comment above.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Aug 4, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WTF?
It also takes the pressure off the Ranger FO to do something to improve the club.
What are they going to do? Put Kenny Lofton back in a uniform? Waiver trade?
by FuturePants on Aug 4, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would support putting Lofton back in uniform...
just to see “someone’s” head explode….
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 4, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny how nobody else in MLB deemed
Bravo Kenny Lofton worth a contract in 2008.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 4, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But he was worth us signing him when we did..
That war is over..
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 4, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
But he was worth giving up a legitimate prospect later in that same year...
That war was fought and won Josey..
It’s time to tip your cap and move forward.
by N41D on Aug 4, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Tell me when Max gets to The Show
and makes meaningful contributions to a winning team instead of beefing up this team;s Baseball America rating and then we’ll can discuss the possibility of healing and moving forward.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 4, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its just too bad
the Rangers traded Teixeira for Magic Beans.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Aug 4, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why do you care?
You don’t like Max, fine, but you also hate Lofton, so why not be happy we aren’t running Lofton out there and that we have Max? What exactly is the problem that we have a prospect versus an old player that nobody wants? Why do you rail so hard against that?
Nobody wanted Kenny Lofton in 2008, fine – you should be impressed that JD got anything for him whatsoever.
by FuturePants on Aug 4, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thought of 4 more
Minnesota 2003 – Down 4.5 games on August 14 (won division)
Houston 2004 – Down 5.5 games on August 19 (won the wild card)
NYY 2005 – Down 5.5 games on August 10 (won the division)
LA Dodgers ’83 – Down 5.5 games on August 13 (won the division)
We’re at 18 teams and I have yet to get serious with this. I’m guessing this total is around 30, maybe more, in the last 50 years of MLB.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 4, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's just a great game, dude.
"When he came up with that ball, hop or not, he looked exactly like a homeless guy who had found a long cigarette butt – only to discover it was soaked with gasoline. He could not have thrown out anyone there, even though Cust moves at about the speed of soil erosion." - Ed C.
by Chase Irwin on Aug 4, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is amazing that you have all of this knowledege in your head. :>0
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
by RangerMad on Aug 4, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thought of 7 more (which takes it to 25 different teams 3 games out or more on August 3 who made the playoffs in the last 50 years)
Boston ’67 – 3 games out on August 19 (won AL)
Atlanta ’69 – 3 games out on September 6 (won division)
LA Dodgers ’66 – 3 games out on August 31 (won NL)
Cinciy ’79 – 4.5 games out on August 15 (won division)
Cincy ’73 – 4.5 games out on August 31 (won division)
Detroit ’87 – 3.5 games out on September 26 (won division)
Chicago Cubs ’03 – 3 games out on August 3
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 4, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why are you looking at 3 games out instead of 4.5 games out?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Aug 4, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's weird
How he always claims to remember this stuff. It’s obvious bullshit, but the real joke is that it’s not impressive at all.
I think we’d all just prefer a “hey i looked this up.”
by brettgardner on Aug 4, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I looked all of these up to verify dates / games back
but I knew all of these were close races.
There are a few more out there, I’m guessing close to 35 total, maybe more.
I went with 3 games out because that’s how far the Rangers were out of the playoffs as of last night’s standings.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 4, 2009 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But they aren't 3 games out anymore
They are 4.5 games back.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Aug 4, 2009 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the meltdown on the thread last night
was classic, but people seemed to not realize that it stung so much because somehow, some way, the FO compiled one of the best bullpens in baseball this year and we are not accustomed to blowing late leads. It’s a good thing, because apparently blowing a ninth inning lead = cancel the season.
And I love all the talk about how much this road trip counts. When you are in a pennant race, EVERY GAME COUNTS until you lose enough games that they no longer count. So every series will be the biggest of the season until they are mathmatically eliminated.
Honestly, as much as I hate seeing the likes of Grilli and Cruz go down with injuries, I sure do love replacing them with guys like Feliz and Borbon. I have a pretty good feeling for what those guys could do for us in the future, but I’d love to know a bit more about the kids going into the offseason, because we will have some tough decisions to make.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Aug 4, 2009 11:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Really?
You love replacing Cruz — one of our best players all season, and a guy who is still under team control for some time — with Borbon?
Give me a freaking break.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 4, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair, Adam, that's not how I read it at all.
I thought he meant he’d rather have Cruz, but getting to replace him with a talented young player while he’s out is a nice cushion.
Maybe I’m wrong.
by philkid3 on Aug 4, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and its also nice
that we have guys like Borbon, Boggs, and Davis instead of the Jason Jones and Jason Botts of the world ready to be called up.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Aug 4, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
it is better than replacing them with John Wasdin or Matt Kata.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
by RangerMad on Aug 4, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but we know what Cruz can do going forward
I want to know if this team can feasibly field an OF of Cruz, Borbon and Hamilton starting next spring. I feel like we are playing with house money by making a run this year and rekindling some excitement among the common fans. But this team is still supposed to be building up for something bigger.
As you said above, fans should temper their expectations for this year, and I have, but I’d still like to see what some of our other young players, especially guys already on the 40, can do for us in the near future.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Aug 4, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a really good point about the OF.
And, as an addendum to that, I would like for JD and Washington to know what they can expect out of a Cruz-Borbon-Hamilton OF so they can have the confidence to play that alignment early in the season (with Murphy rotating through). Because, as we’ve all seen, just because we’re reasonably sure about a better lineup/order, that doesn’t mean Washington will put it out there.
by GhettoBear04 on Aug 4, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, he's saying that he loves the fact that when one of our dudes goes down we have legitimately promising players to come up and replace them.
As opposed to the riff-raff of days gone by, like Adam Hyzdu and whatnot.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
"My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball, but tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom!"
by thedirkatron on Aug 4, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cruz going down
and being replaced by Borbon makes me want to slit my wrists going into the Angels.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Aug 4, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We'll just replace
you with a younger poster.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Aug 4, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
Hard to find
the curmudgeon tool in young posters, though.
by mgb5 on Aug 4, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are no young curmudgeons
that is a skill, not a tool.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Aug 4, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's an old poster skill...
But a skill all the same.
by bhudson on Aug 4, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps you're right
But when I think curmudgeon, I tend to think “tool” more often. Although when skillfully employed, it can rise to an art.
by mgb5 on Aug 4, 2009 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baby steps, Hamilton
1) Get on base
2) Get on base, and then don’t get thrown out trying to steal
I’m hoping he can begin phase 2 at some point, soon
by BuckyB on Aug 4, 2009 11:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I personally don't want Wilson to be the closer...
Not because I have anything against him as a pitcher, but I think he’s more valuable as an 8th inning power set up man, with Fx2 closing.
LOL Sorry the Sooners will score more that 14. - boomer1
by venturafearsnolan on Aug 4, 2009 11:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
He is very valuable, and his stuff is as dominant as anyone in the Ranger’s organization, but he doesn’t have the command to close. If Frank could just stay healthy…
by ramjam36 on Aug 4, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he doesn't have command?
Wilson could have easily gotten four outs before the game winning hit dropped. We had some unlucky breaks last night. There is no need to unseat our closer because we are all so heartbroken he soiled Feliz’s debut.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Aug 4, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't talking only about last night...
and I didn’t say he doesn’t have command. I said imo, I don’t think he has the command a closer should, and I think Frank is a much better option for the 9th when healthy.
by ramjam36 on Aug 4, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wilson
…has good command for a closer. Think about some of the outstanding closers of the last 25 years or so. Not all of them had great command. Some of them didn’t even have control that most people would consider great, and walked a bunch of guys in between K’s and grounders.
by Black Francis on Aug 4, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is he more valuable in the 8th vs. the 9th?
CJ has proven he can get 3 outs in the 9th just like he can get 3 outs in the 8th. Do you mean that you just think FX2 is better?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Aug 4, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
gdawg
don’t you know that 8th inning outs with a close lead are completely different than ninth inning outs with a close lead?
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Aug 4, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell yes they are!
Each time you get an out any way other than a strike out in the 9th, it’s only half an out. And if they get on, they get awarded an extra base automatically.
Much more difficult!
by philkid3 on Aug 4, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and CJ caused global warming
because my gut feels funny when he comes into games
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Aug 4, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gdawg
I just wanted to type your name when it’s obvious I am replying to you, just like Clark.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Aug 4, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rodney
Keep your eyes on the prize.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Aug 4, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
t ball
I’ve been following This Thing for a long time now and performing better than expected earlier than expected with a stacked farm system is nothing to get excited about.
by philkid3 on Aug 4, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Show Thing Donuts Diaper Widdle Magic Beans Bully
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Aug 4, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I often like citing The Great Bill James as some sort of trump card in arguments. . .
. . . even though The Great Bill James would clearly laugh at me and call me a retard if we ever met because of how little I actually understand the works of The Great Bill James.
by philkid3 on Aug 4, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, the works of the Great Bill James aren't for everyone...
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 4, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You just say that because it takes the pressure off the front office.
Don’t speak to moi unless spoken to.
by philkid3 on Aug 4, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
philkid
The great Bill James war is over…
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 4, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"What's the score?"
“Nuthin Nuthin”
“Who’s winning?”
“The Bears”
by AceJC on Aug 4, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bump...
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 4, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hank F, Great War of 2009, Vaseline Intensive Care Lotion and Soriano Bobblehead
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
by WyoRanger on Aug 4, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like the Curb Your Enthusiasm episode
when the chef cussed and everybody else started doing it as well.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 4, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When Cheryl Hines joined in,
that put it over the top. Hilarious.
"Ho visto il tuo agire, non solo rendono per me. Basta un sacco di fluff".
by scoop16 on Aug 4, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cheryl Hines
Kind of a horse face but most do-able.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Gardner, What you should do is tip your cap and then move forward with your tail tucked snugly in your gash."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Aug 4, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we have a tough leftie, 1 out in the 8th
I’d much rather see Ceej than Old Man Eddie.
Between him and Feliz (admittedly this might be premature) setting up Francisco, I think you can make most games a 7 inning affair.
LOL Sorry the Sooners will score more that 14. - boomer1
by venturafearsnolan on Aug 4, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
4.5 games has been made up in less than 2 months before
and we play the Angles 9 more times. We still have a good chance to make the playoffs. We just are going to be playing from behind, but we control our own destiny for the most part since we have so many games against the Angels left.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Aug 4, 2009 11:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A: Choke Job
Q: What does C.J. stand for?
"Fight ’em ’til hell freezes over, then fight ’em on the ice!" – Dutch Meyer
by CowboyHornedFrogs on Aug 4, 2009 11:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Huh Huh Huh!!!!
That’s so funny!!!
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 4, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
K, I'm the guy who made the "this fuckin guy" pic about CJ.
But clearly you haven’t paid any attention this season.
by philkid3 on Aug 4, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stay at BtB
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Aug 4, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the Rangers have played 104 games
CJ has pitched in 47 games. He has had two bad games. Last night and earlier in the season against Detroit. It is never easy with CJ. He seems to make it interesting most times out there, but he has been good and he hasn’t let alot of runs come across to score. Fx2 is a better closer, but that doesn’t mean CJ is not very good himself.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Aug 4, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
couldnt agree more
The post was just something clever from a friend of mine, that i thought i’d throw on here.
To me CJ is a stud, and doesnt get the credit he deserves for what he’s done this year.
"Fight ’em ’til hell freezes over, then fight ’em on the ice!" – Dutch Meyer
by CowboyHornedFrogs on Aug 4, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It wasn't clever.
You need a new sarcasm meter.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
by Snark on Aug 4, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
clever - marked by wit or ingenuity; mentally quick and resourceful
clever does not equal sarcasm. It was just a witty play on his initials and his performance last night, nothing more nothing less
"Fight ’em ’til hell freezes over, then fight ’em on the ice!" – Dutch Meyer
by CowboyHornedFrogs on Aug 4, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't get it.
It was much less than witty. It was much less than clever.
And the sarcasm was coming from clark, AJM, and others in response to your posting it.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
by Snark on Aug 4, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks for the clarification Snark
For future posts i’ll run them by you first to make sure they are witty enough to make the LSB comment threads, and wont elicit such sarcasim.
Thank you for putting me in my place. I think I’m now going to go into the corner of my office and weep for about 15 seconds and regroup.
"Fight ’em ’til hell freezes over, then fight ’em on the ice!" – Dutch Meyer
by CowboyHornedFrogs on Aug 4, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please take longer than 15 seconds.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
by Snark on Aug 4, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I only expect those kind of dumbass comments
at HH
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
by hinduplaya on Aug 4, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I cant take credit.
A friend posted this on my FB, and i thought it was clever enough to put on here and after last night I thought this was deserve
I’m actually a big CJ fan, and dont want to see him go anywhere. I’d take ODay, CJ, and Frankie two times in any 7-8-9 inning situation, *though preferably in that order
"Fight ’em ’til hell freezes over, then fight ’em on the ice!" – Dutch Meyer
by CowboyHornedFrogs on Aug 4, 2009 12:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
meant to reply to previous "choke job" comment
"Fight ’em ’til hell freezes over, then fight ’em on the ice!" – Dutch Meyer
by CowboyHornedFrogs on Aug 4, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW
I’ve been checking out your Horned Frog Frenzy site. Nice work, liked the write up on the stadium. Blows spit blood’s site out of the water.
"Fight ’em ’til hell freezes over, then fight ’em on the ice!" – Dutch Meyer
by CowboyHornedFrogs on Aug 4, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not hard to do
Spit Blood is just to disorganized… We focus more on content… Hope to have the first podcast up the week before the first home game, and we got some player previews coming up too… Trying to get an interview with Wayne Daniels set up, hes a good friend.
by PM Productions on Aug 5, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Angry goalie
Is still angry about last night.
I do love me some Neftali, though. Nasty, nasty stuff.
Officially gay for Neftali Feliz
by RCCook on Aug 4, 2009 12:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"Let it turn..... Let it turn"
“All that hate’s gonna burn you up, kid. "
Quotes from a seriously cheesy movie in honor of Happy’s serious cheese.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 4, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BLLLLLLADES OF STEEEEEEEEEEEEL
Konami was the greatest.
by cmkelly29 on Aug 4, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I chuckle at the Ceej flaming
when the guy got out numbers 2, 3, and 4 for us last night.
Not his fault Face/Arias embiggened the A’s so cromulently.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
by Keynes on Aug 4, 2009 12:06 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Trying to take something else positive out of last night's game outside of Feliz
Nippert continues to be impressive. I really hope we can keep the guy in some kind of role after this year…
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
by hinduplaya on Aug 4, 2009 12:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nah, it's just luck.... He sucks
Letting him have those first two spot starts was the single dumbest move in the history of ever.
/sarcasm
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 4, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
Hearing people write him off reminds me of what people felt before last year about Scooter Feldman. Not saying Nippert will ever touch Scooters ability but seeing him pump 95+ mph heat was nice to see. Hes young and has a live arm. You don’t just discard those type of guys unless you have an abundance of better options which I don’t think we do right now.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 4, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
10 games left against LAA
I still expect to see the Rangers end up a handful of games out of the playoffs this year, but baseball will be very meaningful in September. Lots of good intense experience for the youngsters.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Aug 4, 2009 12:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This.
This is what I was hoping for this season. Even when I thought we’d be below .500, I was hoping for a year where we played games that mattered in to September (I thought the division woudl be worse, obviously).
When we lose games I’m pissed for a while, and I’m sure I’ll be broken up when we’re eliminated, but by and large, when I have a chance to step back. . .
I love the holy fuck out of 2009.
by philkid3 on Aug 4, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
This team has outperformed my wildest expectations, and have done so in a remarkable way (not letting the other team score…novel concept).
Before the season started I’d openly ridicule anyone for saying that were worth 90 wins. To me that was over the top optimism. But much has changed…
Now, even after games last night and even after watching the stupid La La La’s win almost every time they take the field, I’m still optimistic about the playoffs. Why? Well I can’t point to any four or five game stretch in which they allowed seven runs a game. This was common among Rangers teams of the past. And every day that they go out there and don’t allow a bunch of runs, I believe a little more. Every time a starter gets touched up (Feldman) and then comes back his next time out with a strong effort, I believe a little more.
4.5 out. The LaLaLa’s are scorching hot, and they will slow down. The Rangers are pretty hot themselves, and they will likely slow down some, too. But so often it’s the case that teams who go on streaks like the Angels are on right now just come down harder. Will it be hard enough? Maybe. The Rangers have played them well all year and have a bunch of games left against them this year. I don’t see why there’s not room for quite a bit of optimism. People will say the LaLaLa’s have some players coming back. Well we’ll see about that. Players don’t always magically return to form as soon as they come of the DL. Some have, but it seems like most haven’t.
The Outlaw was sarcastic about Davis coming back, but from what I’ve seen on the stats sheets the kid is coming back alive in a big way. He may help. Boggs is the type of guy who provides something the offense lacks…the ability to work the pitcher. Maybe he’ll turn out to be a mini-Milton without all the injuries. It sucks a duck to lose Nellie Cruz for sure but when you have young guys around who have the ability to help you and you don’t even consider them a prospect, your organization’s pretty healthy. Talking about guys like Boggs and Nippert and Mathis. There’s not a team in baseball who wouldn’t want any of the three on their 40 man, I bet.
It’s fun to watch. This team may really do something next year, and they have a pretty damn good shot at it this year.
Very pleased. Cue the creepy Jon Daniels hand clapping gif.
by Black Francis on Aug 4, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup
its amazing where we’re nearing mid-August and the Rangers are still taking a good share of the media attention. Granted, the Cowboys are still getting a good share, but it definately is a different feeling this year. I like it.
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
by hinduplaya on Aug 4, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best news to me
Is that Smoak had 2 hits, 1 being a bomb, and a walk. In this time where apparently we can’t even add a fucking bullpen catcher because of salary concerns, he is gonna be the one guy who puts us over the top next year.
by SaltyGoesYard on Aug 4, 2009 12:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That and. . .
Kinsler and Hamilton’s (positive) regression and the growth of Holland, Feliz and Andrus et. al.
by philkid3 on Aug 4, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has Kinsler regressed positively?
I think I must’ve missed that.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
by Snark on Aug 4, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never mind ~ after re-reading, I'm guessing you're talking about next season.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
by Snark on Aug 4, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ive got Adam pegged...
So he is just saying that we arent going to make the playoffs because he is the bad luck jinx this year! Remember when he didnt watch and the rangers whomped on every oponent?
So, if Adam sais we arent ganna make it, were pretty much guaranteed to be playing in October…
But really, if Texas wins the next three and LA loses 2, is it over then? If Boston loses 2, arent we like a .5 game out of the wild card…
I agree its a long shot, but we need to lose consecutive games and drop about 5 out by Aug 22nd before I pull the plug…
by PM Productions on Aug 4, 2009 12:20 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Good point
Look at him on Andruw Jones. When he embraced him, he went into the tank. When he turned his back on him, he started playing again. Look at Laird. Look at Kinsler.
We definitely want Adam to be saying this Thing has no chance.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Aug 4, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Didn't Salty also hit a HR the day
that AJM posted Salty’s disappointing line of the year.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Aug 4, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is correct.
"When he came up with that ball, hop or not, he looked exactly like a homeless guy who had found a long cigarette butt – only to discover it was soaked with gasoline. He could not have thrown out anyone there, even though Cust moves at about the speed of soil erosion." - Ed C.
by Chase Irwin on Aug 4, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm, the reverse jinx...
…the force is strong with AJM.
by GhettoBear04 on Aug 4, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quote from CJ
""Sometimes you get beat by the long ball, sometimes you get beat by the short ones," Wilson said. “Absolute luck, that’s all it is. All of them were lucky hits, dude. They didn’t hit any of those balls hard.”"
Well, its mostly true.. but I don’t know that its something he should really say.. leave that to the manager.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Aug 4, 2009 12:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He's taking quote lessons from Tony Romo...
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 4, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really.
CJ at least doesn’t sound like a pathetic loser when he talks to the media. He manages to sound salty instead of having this “life ain’t fair” tone that Romo does. Romo’s comments were always more like “Gee, I tried my hardest but things just didn’t go right (sniffle)”, whereas CJ sounds like “Fuck those guys. They got lucky. I’m going to whip their ass the next time I take the mound.” Complete difference in mentality.
And he’s absolutely right.
by Athos on Aug 4, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Personally
I find that latter mentality to be childish and annoying, and I prefer Romo’s.
by brettgardner on Aug 4, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who cares what you prefer?
I mean no offense, but seriously.
by FuturePants on Aug 4, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh
Both of those guys usually speak the truth. People just can’t handle the truth.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Aug 4, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Personally, I can handle the truth just fine
My problem with Romo is that I really don’t need an athlete who just failed to bloviate about how it fits into life’s rich pageant.
Just give me the stock quote about how much it hurts and how you won’t be happy until you get revenge.
FWIW, I wasn’t comparing Romo and BGL in terms of tone, just in terms of how the printed word comes across sometimes.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 4, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand why both piss peopel off
But I really don’t have a problem with either.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Aug 4, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I find that
people get pissed off at what players they don’t like say, but when a player they like says essentially the same thing, the words get excused away.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Aug 4, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Romo, I just find his metaphysical answers a bit douchey at times....
But then again, he can pull more A+ material in one week than I have my whole life, so maybe I’m harboring some deep-seated resentment.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 4, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup.
If Francisco was made the closer (again) tomorrow, and Wilson demanded a trade, complaining, “I didn’t think I would be in position where I would be told exactly what was going to happen, where my job would be taken from me,” I can only imagine the response.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
by Snark on Aug 4, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that's apples and oranges.
Totally different situation.
If you get demoted or something like that and you rant about it, you sound like a selfish ass no matter who you are. If you lose a game and let the world know that you didn’t like it, you sound like a competitor.
by Athos on Aug 4, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not comparing the situations.
I’m commenting more generally on fans’ reactions to what different players say to the press.
There were quite a lot of folks, here and elsewhere, who supported Michael Young after he was moved to third, demanded a trade, and made the comments quoted above ~ so for many, he clearly wasn’t registering as a selfish ass, no matter who he was.
I’m very comfortable predicting that if Wilson pulled a similar reaction to a similar situation, he’d be pilloried.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
by Snark on Aug 4, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
(Pilloried) by many of those same folks, I meant to add.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
by Snark on Aug 4, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure.
You’re always going to have people on both sides of the fence. I love MY, but he was an ass last winter and I said so. I don’t particularly care for CJ, but I really like his comments after last night’s game. With Romo, I love his talent but hate his lack of fire. Unfortunately, it’s the second part that comes across in his comments to the press after a poor game.
by Athos on Aug 4, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We disagree about Romo's "fire."
What you see as weak or passive, I hear as a “forget the loss and move on” perspective. I’ve never seen Romo show a lack of fire on the playing field, and until I do, I’m reluctant to hang his (relative) failures on his comments to the press after a big loss (or a vacation to Mexico, for that matter).
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
by Snark on Aug 4, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We must not be watching the same guy on the field.
I’ve seen plenty of games with Romo late in the season where he’s played without any fire.
Hell, look at last December starting with the Pittsburgh game and you have a whole string of examples after that.
by Athos on Aug 4, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We just don't agree here.
I’m not saying the guy is prone to bad decisions and meltdowns ~ but I watched the Pittsburgh game, and while I thought Romo played poorly, I don’t think he played like a “loser” or didn’t show competitiveness.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
by Snark on Aug 4, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Should read: "I'm not saying the guy *isn't* prone..."
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
by Snark on Aug 4, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just a poorly played joke...
Don’t mind me.
You usually disagree, so I thought it was funny that you explicitly stated it. Like we don’t know, or something. :-D
by bhudson on Aug 4, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe.
But if you’ll recall, I was amongst the loudest critics of my boy MY when he threw his tantrum about switching positions last winter.
And you can never consider comments without considering tone. Romo’s tone in 2008 was a loser’s tone, however you slice up his words. CJ’s tone is a competitor’s tone, and I’ll take that tone over Romo’s regardless of the content of the message. Romo’s whole act about how life was good even though his team was blown out of a playoff spot was a pathetic response to adversity. At least CJ, even when he says douchy things or acts like a baby (see 2008), has some fire in his ass. I have a hell of a lot more confidence that he’ll come back in the next game and be competitive than I do with Romo.
by Athos on Aug 4, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This speaks directly to Cahill's point.
You seem to have a negative view of Romo, and are interpreting his comments accordingly; I heard the same remarks in 2008, and didn’t come away feeling he had a “loser’s tone.” And Wilson’s comments occasionally rub me the wrong way ~ but I can’t say I get too much up in arms about them.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
by Snark on Aug 4, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It really doesn't.
If I was an example of Cahill’s point, I would have said last January that MY was right in his comments about switching positions. Look it up and you’ll see that my stance was about 180 degrees from that.
With Romo, like I’ve said, I love his talent and I really want him to succeed, but right now he’s a poor leader and I think his competitiveness is lacking. That’s based upon his play on the field in big games late in the season. Those characteristics are also reflected in his comments to the press after a big loss at crunch time. Frankly, I could turn your point around on you and state that you choose to ignore Romo’s pathetic tone because you like him as a player, but where does that really get us in the discussion?
by Athos on Aug 4, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was exactly Cahill's point.
I’m not saying you’re an “example” of the point, but rather that our differing opinions about Romo’s comments emerge from our different opinions about his play and his character. What you blame on his lack of leadership, fire, and competitiveness I ascribe to the team he’s playing with and the coaches he’s playing under. I’m not saying he’s as strong in those aspects as a QB as, say, Tom Brady, mind you ~ I simply don’t agree with your assessment.
As such, you’re not “turning my point around on me,” because I freely admit that the fact that I don’t find Romo’s tone “pathetic” is at least in part due to the fact that I don’t think his guts are lacking.
Again, Cahill’s point (as I read it) is that fans take what players say differently depending on how they feel about them. Just because you didn’t support Young doesn’t make his point invalid.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
by Snark on Aug 4, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's right
not one of those were hit well, they were placed in very fortunate spots, but that does not relinquish blame from CJ last night. He was not good and did a piss-poor job of hitting his spots.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Aug 4, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
leave it to the manager
Oh yeah so we can just get 100 comments about how dumb he is.
I have no problem with CJ or any athlete speaking the truth as much as it may hurt or be un-PC
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Aug 4, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha gotta love this!
That know what’s cooking in Texas and they’re not happy about it!!!
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2009/8/4/976773/time-to-jump-off-of-the-bridge
The I.Q. test has been abolished.
It is now the Gardner Scale.
by BigGuns on Aug 4, 2009 12:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
they* know
The I.Q. test has been abolished.
It is now the Gardner Scale.
by BigGuns on Aug 4, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha! Poor things...
not.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Aug 4, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
now time for the angels to get a taste of Happy!!
Scioscia is gonna drop a nugget in his undies.
The I.Q. test has been abolished.
It is now the Gardner Scale.
by BigGuns on Aug 4, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His expression may just morph into a whirlpool-like twisted mass....
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 4, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And and and
Perez is on his way. (in 2011 hopefully!)
You are obsessed with bodily wastes A turd being held under my nose, this team being a steaming pile, Jonny Donuts having a stinky diaper, the front office pissing themselves, the team crapping the bed…
I think you should seek counselling.
(AJM to Josey Donuts)
by Michael Cave on Aug 4, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome
Just wait until they are doing it every 5th day and Perez is dealing AA while Smoak is doing his best Lance Berkman impression at the plate.
You are obsessed with bodily wastes A turd being held under my nose, this team being a steaming pile, Jonny Donuts having a stinky diaper, the front office pissing themselves, the team crapping the bed…
I think you should seek counselling.
(AJM to Josey Donuts)
by Michael Cave on Aug 4, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"doing his best Lance Berkman impression at the plate"
That should be:
doing his best switch-hitting Justin Morneau impression at the plate.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Aug 4, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ill stick with Berkman :-)
Berkman (career OPS+ 148)
Morneau (career OPS+ 127)
You are obsessed with bodily wastes A turd being held under my nose, this team being a steaming pile, Jonny Donuts having a stinky diaper, the front office pissing themselves, the team crapping the bed…
I think you should seek counselling.
(AJM to Josey Donuts)
by Michael Cave on Aug 4, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i will be happy with either one, to tell you the truth.
"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young
by randyd on Aug 4, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too!! ha
You are obsessed with bodily wastes A turd being held under my nose, this team being a steaming pile, Jonny Donuts having a stinky diaper, the front office pissing themselves, the team crapping the bed…
I think you should seek counselling.
(AJM to Josey Donuts)
by Michael Cave on Aug 4, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
best part of that
Can you imagine Yuni against this guy?
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
by hinduplaya on Aug 4, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lookout Landing cracks me up
they are pretty down about the present and future right now…lol.
Last night we got to witness Oakland and Texas’ future with Anderson and Feliz. Those guys are special.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Aug 4, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes they are
Honestly, im more worried about the A’s than the Angels for the next 3-5 yrs.
You are obsessed with bodily wastes A turd being held under my nose, this team being a steaming pile, Jonny Donuts having a stinky diaper, the front office pissing themselves, the team crapping the bed…
I think you should seek counselling.
(AJM to Josey Donuts)
by Michael Cave on Aug 4, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
eh
I guess, but outside of Wallace, they really dont have many offensive threats that can match up with us. IMO in o ur farm system and major leagues the difference between our pitching and their pitching is far less than the difference between our hitting and their hitting.
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
by hinduplaya on Aug 4, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even Wallace isn't that big of an offensive threat
If he moves off of 3B which he most likely will, you aren’t looking at a great offensive 1B.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Aug 4, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO!
I clicked on that, taking me to LOL for the first time in months and was greated with a “warning.”
Apparently for having said this to AJM once:
" I think you do better work. I mean, he’s more of an analyst than you (and trust me, I don’t mean that as an insult), but you are far more objective, mature and reasonable, and provide a much better and more readable tone for your blog. You never say anything that wnats to make me stab my eyes, partly because I think you know and usually avoid your limitations. Because you aren’t a biased, arrogant douche. He may be a better statistical analyst of baseball, and I don’t think the front page content of LL is that bad (at least Jeff’s stuff), but while LSB has less to offer me in the way of sabermetrics, I can get that lots of places. When I’m reading a team blog, I vastly prefer the tone you present. All that said, I also respect you for not trashing other blogs and their writers. I also wouldn’t like to much if the head writer was leading the charge on cross-blog shit-talk fest." I think I’m going to frame this :). Thank you!
by philkid3 on Aug 4, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously the "frame this" part being from whichever mod was spying on me.
by philkid3 on Aug 4, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right.
"When he came up with that ball, hop or not, he looked exactly like a homeless guy who had found a long cigarette butt – only to discover it was soaked with gasoline. He could not have thrown out anyone there, even though Cust moves at about the speed of soil erosion." - Ed C.
by Chase Irwin on Aug 4, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still think Cruz was playing on pity
when he “injured” himself.
Like brettg said last night, it’s a kids move. You eff up, and you act injured so that people will say “Ohh.. that’s why he messed up”
by cmkelly29 on Aug 4, 2009 12:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn't read the GDT
But I was sure someone would suggest that, and I had brett boxed for win and place.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 4, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And eclou, of course
If another player contributes to C.J. struggling, eclou is going to be jumping all over that.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 4, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Good point"
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 4, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I made no comments about Nellie's injury last nite or today. Losing Nellie would be devastating
Arias did not make a seemingly routine play. I think Omar makes that play, except he was not in the for the ninth.
we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"
by eclou on Aug 4, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
x
What does that say about you, then?
by brettgardner on Aug 4, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure, but I'm sure it says something....
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 4, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry for throwing you under the bus
by cmkelly29 on Aug 4, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh no
I love seeing baseball anger flare up over the silliest things. You’ve done me a great favor today.
by brettgardner on Aug 4, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good song.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Aug 4, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh shut up
Yeah, players love being helped off the field. Makes them feel very virile. Did you see his throw? It was all he could do to get that ball back in. Oh, and I suppose you’re ignoring the report that he sprained his ankle. I’m sure the trainers/physicians can’t tell when someone is “faking” a sprained ankle. No objective evidence whatsoever like, maybe, a swelling and shit like that?
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
by WyoRanger on Aug 4, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whooaa freak out there buddy.
I’m so crazy for thinking that maybe he was embarrassed and used an old trick to lighten the load on himself! Forgive me, father!
If he’s injured, he’s injured. I didn’t say it definitely happened.
My bad, chill.
by cmkelly29 on Aug 4, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, you didn't say it definitely happened
You implied he faked an injury for no good reason while ignoring a doctor’s diagnosis. Pretty dumb.
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
by WyoRanger on Aug 4, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be quite honest
I hadn’t seen the doc’s report.
by cmkelly29 on Aug 4, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Team physicians normally send you their medical reports?
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
by WyoRanger on Aug 4, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why are you being such a sarcastic douche?
by brettgardner on Aug 4, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just cause.
It bugs me a person or people are accusing Nelson of faking an injury to cover a defensive gaff when that’s just not the case.
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
by WyoRanger on Aug 4, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why?
I said it last night in jest, but even if someone were serious, I can’t imagine why it would upset you.
by brettgardner on Aug 4, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't in the GDT last night so none of this is directed at you
But you should know as much as anyone that ignoring clear facts is annoying. If you can obfuscate, cool; twist, fine; but acting like certain facts don’t exist shouldn’t be an option.
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
by WyoRanger on Aug 4, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh.
It just seemed like you overreacted. cmkelly wasn’t threadjacking or anything—just a throwaway comment.
by brettgardner on Aug 4, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing like it, heh.
"When he came up with that ball, hop or not, he looked exactly like a homeless guy who had found a long cigarette butt – only to discover it was soaked with gasoline. He could not have thrown out anyone there, even though Cust moves at about the speed of soil erosion." - Ed C.
by Chase Irwin on Aug 4, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
According to the post-game reports, his ankle was swollen up extremely badly, and there was talk about him getting x-rays.
I’m not sure how to fake being hurt in a way that causes that sort of physical reaction.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 4, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Santeria???
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 4, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you remember what Dad used to call that?
The mullet limp.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
by benmor78 on Aug 4, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
The Loser’s Limp.
That’s what he told me Mark Teixeira was doing, when we were at a game in 2007 when Teixeira came out after pulling up running to first base.
Teixeira then went on the d.l. for a month or so.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 4, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That out was a real confidence-sapper.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: "Can't take a fucking to save their lives" (lisa w, 2009).
by Snark on Aug 4, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
Juan Gonzalez is a much better example if you’re going to illustrate a concept like the “loser’s limp”.
by Athos on Aug 4, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh
He had that pulled hamstring down pat, IIRC.
"When he came up with that ball, hop or not, he looked exactly like a homeless guy who had found a long cigarette butt – only to discover it was soaked with gasoline. He could not have thrown out anyone there, even though Cust moves at about the speed of soil erosion." - Ed C.
by Chase Irwin on Aug 4, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Was it over when the German's bombed pearl Harbor?"
"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young
by randyd on Aug 4, 2009 12:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"Germans??"
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Aug 4, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Forget it, he's on a roll."
"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young
by randyd on Aug 4, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Neftali
Does anyone have a gif of the slider he threw to Everidge on 1-1 that caught the outside corner?
by LiamP on Aug 4, 2009 1:10 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
ask GOET he should have it...
he put up a few in the thread last night.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
by TxStCa on Aug 4, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That pitch was maybe the highlight of the night for me.
by Brett Perryman on Aug 4, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because Rangers fans need a little levity after last nights debacle
Today is the 16th anniversary of Nolan’s beatdown of Robin Ventura:
If you want some slack, bring your own rope.
by rangerfaninva on Aug 4, 2009 1:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
CJ has thrown a lot of pitches the last couple of games.
So, if it’s another close game tonite, who’s our closer?
by troysboys on Aug 4, 2009 1:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
O'Day?
In any case unless dutch has another brilliant start someone you don’t want in a close game would have to pitch.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Aug 4, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look who we are facing
We NEED our offense to score some damn runs off Gio (7.38 era and 1.95 whip) so that the late inning guys can have a night off. Maybe bring in Mathis to soak up the last 3 innings of a game that we are leading by 5 or 6 runs.
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
by tricer on Aug 4, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well if the royals can occasionally put up big runs totals
i suppose the rangers without kins/cruz/real hammy should be able to too.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Aug 4, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I deleted my comment
about my heckler. Decided it’s probably best to go back to ignoring him, since I’m sure a reaction is what he’s looking for.
by Brett Perryman on Aug 4, 2009 2:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
About 2 or 3 years ago
I was on there arguing with a bunch of them.
I mistakenly put my email as the user on one of my posts.
The next morning I woke up and had about 600 emails in my acct from the same guy.
Probably the same guy.
Enjoy.
I'm Ron Burgundy?
by Ryin A on Aug 4, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Psycho much?
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Aug 4, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, from what I can tell
there are a few goofy types over there like everywhere, but there is one disaster of a guy who is such a wrecking ball, posts so much in succession when he gets going, and just uses the message he’s trying to get across as his name, so that he seems like several people. And he’s apparently quite familiar with LSB.
by Brett Perryman on Aug 4, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looking at the other Non-Angel blogs of the AL West teams AN and LOL
It seems pretty clear that everyone hates the Angels and is rooting for the Rangers to catch them. It’s kind of weird to think that divisional rivals can come together to hate on one particular team but the Angels have been so good and so insufferable that we all want them to fail.
If the situations were reversed, I think I would probably do the same and root on the A’s or the M’s to force the Angels to stay at home during the playoffs as well. I can only dream of the schadenfreude that would take place the first time the Angels don’t make the playoffs.
I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.
by DerekSTheRed on Aug 4, 2009 2:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if I really hate the Angels as a team more than the A's or the Mariners
But I sure as hell hate Rev more than the other AL West bloggers
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Aug 4, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll be honest
When the Angels won the WS in 2002 I was happy for them. Thought it’d be nice for the AL West to have a winner. Now, not so much. They annoy the shit out of me.
I’ve never really hated, like hated, the Mariners. Same with the A’s. Hell, I was even an A’s fan (and then White Sox) before I settled on the Rangers when I was a kid.
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
by WyoRanger on Aug 4, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
interesting
i predict the angels storming past the rangers a couple of weeks ago, and i’m labeled a “defeatist pussy”
the angels start playing better and storm past the rangers as predicted and now the number of “defeatist pussies” has grown
by sam in so cal on Aug 4, 2009 2:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't sweat it - you're still a pussy
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
by WyoRanger on Aug 4, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
congrats
on being the lead pussy.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Aug 4, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
First car on the train
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
by WyoRanger on Aug 4, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just going to call him hymen from now on.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Aug 4, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmm
what’s worse? being the lead pussy or one of you three assholes?
tough call.
defeatist pussy
by sam in so cal on Aug 5, 2009 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
CJ
I love the guy but this is another back to back night when he didn’t do so well.
http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/6/5/899936/should-cj-ever-pitch-back-to-back
Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
by Bezekira on Aug 4, 2009 3:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm done pouting, screaming, and kicking things
over last night and have come to a conclusion or two.
I"m going to chaulk up yesterday as the ol’ “mean theory”. We are due to have a slight drop off in pitching and hopefully a resurgence in offense. Just as we expect LAAAA to drop off in offense and improve their pitiful bullpen (one of the worst in the AL). Yesterday will just move the stats a little more toward the mean. Now for the offense to do its part…
We really won’t know how bad yesterday’s lost will effect the team. Today will be as big a game as any because if we come out with our heads hanging, AJM’s fork is exactly where it should be. Or we could find some way to rally around it and use it to motivate us (see Happy’s amazing debut, Hammy being on base 3 times, and Nips nice 1 hitter)
The details have been argued and I’m now past that (i.e. CJ (non)sucking, Wash defensive mangment, Wash pitching mang.)
Now it’s time to let the healing begin. I’ve apologized for my actions last night: flowers for the wife for breaking the coffee table, gave my dog a huge milk bone for kicking him, and here is my apology to everyone for cursing the existance of anything Rangers. Go Rangers!
by AceJC on Aug 4, 2009 3:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Loved the last paragraph!
At least you didn’t kick the wife-apologies and flower would NOT have fixed that shit! And all of us were cursing something or someone at that point! No apolgies necessary.
"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young
by randyd on Aug 4, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
CJ
Why do people keep saying CJ has only had 2 bad games? How do you manage to get 5 losses as a reliever when you’ve only had 2 bad games. He has an 81% save rate, which sucks. He’s also come into a tie game 3 times and given up the lead.
by Squig on Aug 4, 2009 3:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
His 81% save rate
For much of the season, he was a setup man. Setup men have crappy save %s because they only get credited with blown saves, and rarely actually get a save.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 4, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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