Gerry Fraley hates TBIA
Former DMN baffoon turned freelancer Gerry Fraley writes about ballparks that suck today, and as usual, takes his shots at the Rangers, concluding thusly...
Whomever Hicks sells to, and a group headed by team president and Hall of Famer Nolan Ryan should be considered the favorite, must be ready to peel off about $200 million to add the roof.
I'm not sure if Fraley is just hyperbolizing to get attention from basement-dwelling bloggers like me, or if he's serious...but the idea that the Ranger franchise is not viable without a domed stadium is foolishness.
Would TBIA be better with a retractable roof? No question. Would attendance be better with a retracted roof? No question.
But is TBIA really such a hellhole that no owner can buy the team if there isn't a roof in place?
Give me a break.
I don't know where the $200 million number came from, if it is a realistic estimate or if was plucked from Fraley's nether-regions.
But the reality is, if you are going to pay to put a retractable roof on TBIA, you're probably just as well off building a whole new stadium.
It has been made pretty clear that, regardless of the other engineering issues, putting a roof on TBIA isn't feasible because the infrastructure isn't set up for there to be air conditioning to cool the entire stadium with a roof on it...basically, putting a roof on TBIA would turn it into an oven, which would be counter-productive.
Fraley's theory is that the ballpark situation basically drops the value of the Rangers by $200 million from what Forbes has the team valued at. And for the finances to work, if you amortize the $200 million spent on a new roof over an expected 20 year span, you'd have to make $18 million more per year in profit in order to cost-justify the expense. I haven't seen the numbers crunched, but I don't think that a retractable roof is going to generate that much more in revenues, much less in profit.
So, yeah, I guess you could say the new owners could go to Dallas and ask for the city to build a new retractable roof ballpark there. And in this economy, with a city that couldn't get the Rangers in the first place and couldn't keep the Cowboys, I imagine that's going to go nowhere.
So basically, Fraley's point is that the Rangers are a doomed franchise because their stadium doesn't have a roof. Good to see his view of our team hasn't changed much since he was collecting a paycheck for the Dallas Morning News.
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Fuck Off Fraley!! Good riddance to bad rubbish…
"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young
We also need to
take the dome off of the AAC. Also, we might want to look into adding a perforated sheet draped over the Cotton Bowl.
Your uncle molests collies.
hmm
18 million a year / 81 home games = 222,222
let’s say the average ranger ticket price is $26. and the average fan has a hot dog ($6?) and a soda ($4?) so that’s $36 per person (not gonna deal with sales tax and other) so $222,222/$36=6,173 fans per game? because of a roof? i doubt it.
my prices could be off, just a guess.
" This is the inning that propels us to the playoffs. Mark it down."
- Rohn Warshington on Jul 27, 2009 9:19 PM EDT
5th inning against the Tigers
Thats not including the added cost of running the A/C
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
or installing turf?
" This is the inning that propels us to the playoffs. Mark it down."
- Rohn Warshington on Jul 27, 2009 9:19 PM EDT
5th inning against the Tigers
You could still have grass
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
But that's gross revenue
Not profits.
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 10, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions
that's why
i said “not gonna deal with sales tax and other”
" This is the inning that propels us to the playoffs. Mark it down."
- Rohn Warshington on Jul 27, 2009 9:19 PM EDT
5th inning against the Tigers
Sales tax
That has nothing to do with gross revenues or profits.
I’m not sure what you mean by “other.”
But the Rangers don’t make $5 in profit for every $5 in hot dogs they sell or tickets they sell.
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 10, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions
i think you can figure out
that other is costs. perhaps next time i will say whether or not i’m talking gross or net profits. just doing a simplified liberal estimation on how many butts in the seats would need to be added to break even. it’ll have to be more than 6,000 fans a game.
" This is the inning that propels us to the playoffs. Mark it down."
- Rohn Warshington on Jul 27, 2009 9:19 PM EDT
5th inning against the Tigers
I still think a Roman Velarium is a good idea
Roman Velarium
Air conditioning isn’t an issue because it is vented, and there should be enough structural support to hold up the fabric. The only part I can’t figure out is how to build the velarium without blocking the lights (an issue the Romans didn’t face).
Beat me to it...
I’ve long thought that would be a good option. The pressing need is to mitigate the sun, and a Velarium is a great way to do that without affecting airflow, etc. very much.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Get a big blue tarp and drape it from foul pole to foul pole.
line the field with fans that spray out water,you can get them at wal mart.
Or rent out JerryWorld for the summer and play all games there.
We’re more likely to get a lease from Jerry himself than getting a fucking roof on TBIA.
Just drop it already.
by TooLegitToQuit on Sep 10, 2009 8:47 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
The fans that spray out water
That’s my son’s favorite part of the zoo.
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 10, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I think some misters
under the roof on the upper deck and under 2nd deck would be a good call. That would be awesome.
Or we could all just nut the fuck up and quit bitching and enjoy 79-60.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
I would love to see
how many baseballs would hit that scoreboard in the middle of the field!
Would you have do-overs on flyballs hitting the Jerrytron?
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
If Kinsler is leading off
We may never finish Opening Day
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Sep 10, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
good one bigsteve
you’re growing on me.
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
There aren't any 16 year olds with mid-80's heat to dismiss right now.
by LiamP on Sep 10, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
hopefully we've gotten past
“Nelson Cruz could NEVER play left field, he’s a right fielder.”
"You can probably stick a fork in the Rangers' playoff chances for 2009." - AJM on 7/26 with the team 4.5 games out
Sadly...
there are still some who think he sucks in RF.
I just don’t get it. He’s an above average COFer any way you slice it. RF or LF.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
just what we need that haggard looking old man Jerry coming out and yelling...
Get off my billion dollar lawn!!!
HH is that a sock in your puppet or are you happy to see me?
Fraley is just looking for a place he can watch baseball and not sweat while he's eating
but what he doesn’t realize is that he sweats while he eats because he’s fat, not because it’s hot at TBiA. He would bitch about the heat while watching Greenland take on Sweden in an ice making competition.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
So did Gerald take a swing at you AJM?
Gotta be some backstory here.
Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100. - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
by Cecilio's Guante on Sep 10, 2009 9:23 PM CDT reply actions
Fraley has always been
a shitty, shitty writer. I think that’s the backstory. I don’t think anyone was unhappy to see him get fired from DMN.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
Wrigley is the classic american ballpark
You don’t talk shit about it without providing decent logic. Also TBIA is a really beautiful park, the heat isn’ t that big of an issue.
I just don't see any kind of roof
being built on that structure, and I don’t see it being rebuilt til the current lease expires. I think it expires in 2022 or thereabouts.
The whole roof thing really isn’t worth talking about for another decade or so.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
I have never not gone to a game due to heat. I was at a July day game when GM jr made the catch in center to rob Lamb. It was hot yeah, but it was worth it. And a winng team is also worth it.
by Jag351 on Sep 11, 2009 8:00 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
You lost me at Fraley
My eyes glaze over more when I see that name than when I see Galloway
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Having grown up going to games in old Arlington Stadium and TBIA...
…and now living in Houston, I can honestly say I prefer the open air. Even with the heat.
I like Minutemaid, but having the retractable roof (which seems to me remains closed almost all season) makes the game feel so much more artificial. And to me, baseball is all about that natural feeling…I can’t think of a roofed ballpark that has the same type of classic feel as all of the other open-air stadiums.
Sure, games are hot (especially day games) but it’s not like the end of the world. I mean, my parents sat in the heat to watch me play little league. We all play under the same big blue Texas skies.
by RyanBlueThunder on Sep 11, 2009 1:14 PM CDT reply actions

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