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Friday mid-day linkaliciousness

There've been a bunch of things out there of note the last week or so I've been wanting to link, and haven't gotten around to it, so I'll try now...

The Rangers are #7 on the BP Hit List this week, and Marc Normandin says he's rooting for them to win the A.L. West.

In Will Carroll's chat yesterday, he says that Texas would be a great fit for Daisuke Matsuzaka to try to get his career back on track.

Fangraphs has a preview of the Surprise Rafters, which includes talk of three Ranger prospects who will be playing for the Rafters.

Rob Neyer has some praise for Scott Feldman, although he says Feldman doesn't deserve to be considered in the Cy Young race right now, and has this aside that I liked:

Oh, and while this is only a tangentially related matter, I have to say that I'm tired of people saying something like this: "I know [my favorite team's best pitcher or hitter] isn't going to win the [Cy Young or MVP] and doesn't deserve to, but shouldn't he at least be in the conversation?"

Quick Answer: No.

Long(er) Answer: No, of course not. Please stop being silly. If you think he might win, we should talk about him. If you think he can't win but deserves to win, we should talk about him. But if he's neither going to win nor deserves to, there's no reason to include him in our deliberations. If we have to talk about every Scott Feldman and Prince Fielder who come along, there will be no end to it.

Commence with the inevitable bitching about how Neyer hates the Rangers...even though Neyer says in this chat that Feldman is underappreciated...

Keith Law's chat yesterday had multiple Ranger references, along with some amusing discussion about whether Edinson Volquez will win the Rookie of the Year Award this year, and talk of how overblown the "Derek Jeter passed Lou Gehrig in hits!!!" orgasmagoria this past week was.

Jerry Crasnick fields a couple of Michael Young as MVP candidate questions inhis chat today, along with a Derek Holland question.

The Dallas Observer runs down the Rangers' intro music for each player...

This may be a good offseason for the Rangers to have to money to spend, because Jayson Stark says the free agent class this offseason is lousy.

Ken Rosenthal has a Q&A with Bud Selig about the economics of the game, and the used car salesman is as clownish as ever:

Q: Cleveland, Pittsburgh, San Diego, Kansas City, Oakland. It almost seems like the list of teams with troubles has gotten a little bit longer.

A: I don’t think so. It changes from year to year. In any sport, in any time, you’re going to have teams that do well and don’t do well. We could go back in the history of baseball — you had the St. Louis Browns, the Philadelphia Athletics, the Boston Braves. You go on and on and on, and they all looked so hopeless.

All the clubs you’ve talked about are spending a lot of money on their farm systems. Their farm systems are improved. I feel good about where they are. They seem to feel good about where they are.

I know they’re struggling in Pittsburgh, but they’ve done well, they’ve signed their (draft picks), they’re doing what they think should have been done long ago. Texas looked hopeless a few years ago, and look at Texas now.

So good news, San Diego, Pittsburgh, and Oakland!  If things go well for you, you can be like the Browns, the Athletics, and the Braves, who packed up and left town (in the case of the A's and the Braves, on two different occasions) and were then successful in their new locales!

And I'm not sure Texas ever looked "hopeless," but whatever...

Jon Heyman has his award ballot up, and he has Elvis #2 in the ROY balloting, behind Rick Porcello...

Baseball Digest thinks Elvis should win the ROY Award.  So do I.

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Matsuzaka in Texas? in 2010?

Thanks, I’ll pass.

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by mtex on Sep 11, 2009 1:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

don't disagree with you

but how the mighty have fallen…

by MikeEl on Sep 11, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

when the team went after Daisuke

we were still talking about the DVD trio backing him up.

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by mtex on Sep 11, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

blalock and young

have the best taste in music

" This is the inning that propels us to the playoffs. Mark it down."
- Rohn Warshington on Jul 27, 2009 9:19 PM EDT
5th inning against the Tigers

by gossamer on Sep 11, 2009 1:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Grilli's song is the best one on there...

Probably followed by Marlon Byrd… then maybe MY.

by venturafearsnolan on Sep 11, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

For me only Ian and Eddie have good songs

of course it’s a generational thing on my part, Black Betty is well covered by Ram Jam and Lowrider by War is a classic

Larry Parrish Was Da Man!

by TRFAN on Sep 11, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oday's intro music disturbs me

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Sep 11, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was especially surprised

and encouraged by the lack of even a mention of Rick Porcello. I think Elvis just might have this thing.

by MikeEl on Sep 11, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Porcello has been really overrated.

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Sep 11, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah but

that doesn’t stop people from buying into it.

by MikeEl on Sep 11, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Holy crap!
Since falling to a season-low .249 on July 20, Andrus has batted .324 in 44 games, with 16 extra-base hits, nine steals and an OPS of .880

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Sep 11, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hitting higher in the order seems to work for him.

He hit #2 in frisco, right behind borbon

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by rentz on Sep 11, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too bad MY

sucks ass in the 3rd hole.

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Sep 11, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hypothetically speaking...

If he rocks an .880 OPS over the course of a season, he’s the best SS in baseball by a mile, isn’t he?

by N41D on Sep 11, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hanley was about the only one that came to mind...

Maybe Jose Reyes if he’s back to 2008 form…

Either way, that’s one hell of a baseball player.

by N41D on Sep 11, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Elvis is ROTY

He has been a full time starter from opening day and has not only played well at a tough position, he has been instrumental in the team’s turnaround.

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by t ball on Sep 11, 2009 1:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ROTY

Yup, to me there isn’t much doubt. But I could see voters going either Bailey or white Beckham, but I just don’t see how Porcello is deserving over any of those 3.

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by rentz on Sep 11, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

b/c Porcello's on the 1st place team.

hence, more people pay attention.

I understand Bailey has dominated this season, but I don’t understand why he’d get votes. Has there been another relief pitcher who’s won the award?

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by mtex on Sep 11, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fellow A Huston Street did

Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...

Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?

by Brian Thomas on Sep 11, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bailey

Dominating the season is a much better reason to get a vote than playing for a first place team.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Sep 11, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree.

I don’t think Porcello has dominated this season, whereas Bailey has. But,to me, a RP getting a RotY award is still weird.

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(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."

by mtex on Sep 11, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look at it this way

what if feliz had been in the bullpen most of the year and qualified for roty?
Would you still feel the same way?

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by rentz on Sep 11, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think i'd be wondering why he wasn't in the rotation.

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(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."

by mtex on Sep 11, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My stance is that ROTY is between Andrus and Niemann.

I have to think alot more about it to figure out which deserves it more. Both have had outstanding seasons.

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by rooster on Sep 11, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Niemann

Dont know why I always forget about him

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Sep 11, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Elvis leads in WAR

by 0.01. Super tough call.

by jwiscarson on Sep 11, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Niemann is like 24-25 and spent a whole year in AAA

Elvis is 20-21 and was only in AA. Elvis all the way.

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Sep 11, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not necessarily saying Niemann deserves it...

but that’s a lot closer than I would’ve expected.

I really hope Elvis gets it.

by jwiscarson on Sep 11, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wasn't Niemann the Rays 5th starter by inches coming out of Spring Training?

I seem to remember that they were thinking about dumping him too.

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by mtex on Sep 11, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep

they traded Hammel instead.

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Sep 11, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jeter

Good for him breaking the franchise hit record. Unfortunately, there will be some who think he is a better ballplayer than Lou Gehrig because of it. I hope those people don’t vote.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Sep 11, 2009 1:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WORSHIP AT THE ALTAR.

JEETS BE PRAISED.

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by Maximilian on Sep 11, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

gehrig as far as i know

didnt have the jump throw, only thing he brought to the world was a horrible disease, i fail to see how he’s better than jeets

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by studcrackers on Sep 11, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't tell

if you’re being sarcastic or serious…

by MikeEl on Sep 11, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

frankly im upset

that you cant tell

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by studcrackers on Sep 11, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i shouldnt have said anything

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by studcrackers on Sep 11, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just knew

a Yankee’s fan who I could very well imagine saying that very thing…

by MikeEl on Sep 11, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it lonely out there on that island?

Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...

by Brian Thomas on Sep 11, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Andrus/Jeter

Below compare Andrus with Jeter through 448 PA’s. Andrus is 110-397 Jeter was 114-396. They each had 158 total bases. Both fielded .969 though Elvis’ RF was 5.02 for 4.52 for Jeter.

Age
Andrus: 21.04
Jeter: 22.08

Avg.
Andrus: .277
Jeter: .288

OBP
Andrus: .340
Jeter: .354

Slg.
Andrus: .398
Jeter: .399

HR
Andrus: 6
Jeter: 5

RBI
Andrus: 32
Jeter: 53

BB
Andrus: 34
Jeter: 38

SO
Andrus: 64
Jeter: 77

SB
Andrus: 26
Jeter: 6

Sacs
Andrus: 10
Jeter: 5

Jeter was a ROY

by Evil Monkey on Sep 11, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

very interesting

If Elvis were playing in NY they would have alrady given him the trophy.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Sep 11, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also consider the age difference

Jeter was 21/22 Andrus 20/21.

Andrus’ potential is um, pretty good.

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by Dirk Diggler on Sep 11, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn...

Jeets has nothing on the King.

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by slc ranger on Sep 11, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jeter is better than Gehrig was

The players from that era are not nearly as good as those today.

Gehrig would be David Murphy today. Babe Ruth would be Jason Botts as a hitter; Warner Madrigal as a pitcher.

The player pool and talent pool is so much greater now than then.
There are 100 times more players to compete with today than there was then. That’s why when measured against their piers the ould guy look so remarkable. The weren’t that many people playing baseball because it was hard to make a living, plus the Black athlete was not included nor the Latin Americans and Asians.

Jeter is better and it’s not even close.

by Evil Monkey on Sep 11, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

whatever…

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Sep 11, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's statements like this

which make me question whether other people are being sarcastic…

by MikeEl on Sep 11, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why are we comparing them to long, wooden structures that jut out into the ocean?

Piers vs Peers…

Homynyms are a bitch.

Plus, to stay on topic, I think most of the ’ol timers probably fit your description. However, there are a number of them that I think would compete up to the level, if not above, of the talent in the majors now. Ty Cobb comes to mind immediately. Man was a racist ass, but he was a phenomenal ball player.

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by WhipSmart on Sep 11, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

re: "Babe Ruth would be Jason Botts as a hitter"

That may be the single stupidest thing I’ve ever read on this site.

And that’s saying something.

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by Brian Thomas on Sep 11, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, maybe the way to say it

is that if Jason Botts had played in the 1920s, he’d have given Babe Ruth a run for his money.

Of course, more likely he would have failed to convince Connie Mack to bench an aging former star Ty Cobb in 1927, leading to Botts unceremoniously going to play in the Netherlands, only to fail miserably and be forgotten by everyone in baseball history, with the exception of one particular Philly barrister who insisted that Ty Cobb wasn’t even a HOFer (to the great confusion of everyone who hadn’t heard of this HOF thing) and that Connie Mack was a dumb old-timer who didn’t understand statistics and the A’s were doomed for perpetual failure because Jason Botts was being ignored…

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by JBImaknee on Sep 11, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Botts had played in the 20s,

he still would have sucked.

Botts suckitude is eternal and unwavering.

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by DJCahill on Sep 11, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, people seem to confuse talent and physical gifts

I’d say that the stars of old had as much baseball talent as today’s stars, but lack in physical attributes. Of course, the overall talent level is higher due to the wider pool from which to choose, but cream of the crop translates well across the decades.

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by bking on Sep 11, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if the same number of teams existed in the big leagues today as there were then,

the difference would be smaller from the best’s to the worst’s in the league, making it harder to be better than everyone else since you never get to face real scrubs

by kevinkinsler on Sep 11, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is a very good point

and therefore does not belong in this thread.

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by WhipSmart on Sep 11, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed. What Evil Monkey seems to be forgetting is that while there is a much larger and more diverse talent pool today, today's athletes also have many huge advantages

Can you imagine what kind of numbers the Bambino could have put up if:

He had a full time nutritionist, had creatine, protein powders, etc.
He was going to expertly coached baseball camps facing the elites of the elite since age 5 or so
He had today’s understanding of strength/endurance training, with the appropriate trainers
Modern sports medicine, massage therapy, spas, chiros, etc.
Video footage to study
Traveled everywhere by luxury jet, as opposed to taxing, tedious rides via bus and locomotive
He had a superagent like Boras safeguarding his every need, who would most likely mandate a Narronesque babysitter
And of course, steroids, HGH, cream, clear

I think most people agree that the only reasonably accurate way to judge a player’s talent and accomplishments is against that of his contemporaries, and evil monkey makes it more clear why this is advisable by seemingly only factoring in one side of that coin.

And I like KKinsler’s point below, too. Babe didn’t have to face any Marianos and Pedros, but he also didn’t get to feast on fringey Guardados and Jennings and the like either.

Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...

Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?

by Brian Thomas on Sep 11, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jeter is better than Gehrig was

The players from that era are not nearly as good as those today.

Gehrig would be David Murphy today. Babe Ruth would be Jason Botts as a hitter; Warner Madrigal as a pitcher.

The player pool and talent pool is so much greater now than then.
There are 100 times more players to compete with today than there was then. That’s why when measured against their piers the ould guy look so remarkable. The weren’t that many people playing baseball because it was hard to make a living, plus the Black athlete was not included nor the Latin Americans and Asians.

Jeter is better and it’s not even close. But I don’t vote.

by Evil Monkey on Sep 11, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

saying it over and over again

doesnt make you sound any smarter

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by studcrackers on Sep 11, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Larry Parrish Was Da Man!

by TRFAN on Sep 11, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

but....the jump throw!!!

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by rentz on Sep 11, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe Gehrig had a jump throw

and it causes ALS…

something to think about…

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by WhipSmart on Sep 11, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I found this amusing:

Your opinion, worst manager in MLB. Dusty Baker is the common choice, but I found Jerry Manuel this offseason to be saying some particularly odd things about statistics. Also ran the serviceable Ryan Church out of town so the Mets can enjoy a couple years of Frenchie’s .290 OBP’ing ways.

Rob Neyer (12:18 PM)

Lots of candidates for that title, Joe. Have you been following the brilliant career of Trey Hillman?

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by Brian Thomas on Sep 11, 2009 1:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hillman was in bold for a reason

This one was for Josey.

Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...

Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?

by Brian Thomas on Sep 11, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought for a moment

That Josey was JJT the other day when I opened the paper and read about the “Fightin’ Washingtons”, but then I realized that the article was a puff piece replete with love for Wash, and I quickly flushed the idea down the toilet.

But think about it—that would have been a pretty big mindfuck, given all the racism Josey displays.

by brettgardner on Sep 11, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What racism do I display, Elephant Boy?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

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by Josey Wales on Sep 11, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

You got nothing, punk.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Sep 11, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go bang another coed, punk!!

Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...

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by Brian Thomas on Sep 11, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about he just break his cherry, Sarge?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Sep 11, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow.

You’re making fun of a guy for being in the military? Pretty pathetic, even for you.

by brettgardner on Sep 11, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dusty Baker may not be the worst manager in baseball at any given moment

But there is a cold place in baseball hell for the guy who ruined Mark Prior and Kerry Wood’s (and just for the heck of it, Edinson Volquez’s as well) arms…

If I were a young pitcher, I’d sue to not have Baker have any power over how often I pitched.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Sep 11, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kerry Wood

I think that one’s on his high school coach- Dusty and Riggleman just finished off what was already starting to break.

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by RCCook on Sep 11, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you're being needlessly snide towards Bud

His point is that there are always teams who seem to hang out at the bottom of the league, which is true – someone has to do that. Yeah, Texas wasn’t the best example, but 2001-2003 were very dark days, and Bud is accurate in pointing that out. A better example would have been Tampa Bay.

It is fun how how he cites the A’s and a reason not to worry about the A’s.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Sep 11, 2009 1:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No he's not

FUCK BUD SELIG!

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Sep 11, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

just wait

until this weekend’s series gets rained out and he tells us we have to make up the games against Seattle by playing in Anaheim for some inane reason…

by MikeEl on Sep 11, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mean,

that quote is laughable. He is trying to spread optimism by reminding of you teams that have failed

by BuckyB on Sep 11, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

eh

without the doormats, you wouldn’t have dynasties.

Frankly, he’s completely right. There are always awful teams in the league. And I don’t have any sympathy for them. The A’s, Padres, Pirates, Nationals, and Royals don’t lose because they have poor payrolls. They lose because their owners are idiots (A’s, Padres, Nationals, Royals, probably the Pirates too) and are run badly (Padres, Pirates, Nationals, Royals). Somehow, small market teams do succeed in spite of everything. So screw the Pirates and Royals. They should work as hard and as diligently as the Rays.

So Bud’s answer should have been “That’s reality, and it is nothing new; it’s called competition, not play time. At least we aren’t the NFL where team’s go from worst to first so often that it has lost all meaning, or the NBA when last place teams can get into the playoffs”

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Sep 11, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

but, if Obama was asked to address the weak economy, I really hope he wouldn’t point towards Germany in 1946 as an indicator that some day the ship will right

by BuckyB on Sep 11, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That'd be awesome.

Though a reference to Germany circa 1925 would be an even more shocking reference.

“We don’t need to worry about inflation – remember from history how much the Weimar Republic dealt with, and see how wealthy Germany is now?”

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Sep 11, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

2001-03

73 wins, 72 wins, 71 wins.

That’s not “hopeless.” That didn’t even get us better than the 10th overall pick in the draft.

by Adam J. Morris on Sep 11, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

but hopeless in the fact

that there was no reason at the time to think they were going to improve anytime soon… and they didn’t (outside of 2004) until this year.

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by WhipSmart on Sep 11, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I felt pretty hopeless back then.

Easily the darkest period of being a Rangers fan in my lifetime.

The farm system was pathetic. The major league club was disappointing at best, boring at worst.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Sep 11, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was never more optimistic about This Thing

than I was during the 2004 season.

They played .500 ball for an extended time (44 -44 their last 88 games) with a bunch of young kids who had tons of upside and the owner had positioned himself to make some very nice additions (Beltran was needed and a free agent that year),

Fans responded to that team and nearly 6000 more showed up per game than in 2003.

That off-season (Hidalgo, Astacio were the big pick-ups, payroll stayed the same, owner raised ticket & parking prices) took me to a very dark place.

Right now, I’m year to year and very, very aware that special years like 2009 don’t happen very often, especially for the small market payroll teams.

Just heard I Kinsler on BAD Radio. The team is bummed about the lack of fan support.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Sep 11, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Should have read

“They played .500 ball for an extended time in 2003………”

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Sep 11, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

Maybe if Nolan Ryan would do his fucking job instead of trying to be the GM, attendance would be better… :)

"I cannot believe how fucking off base I was about Tiny E before this season. The Kid is great and is going to become a star."

- Wails

by RCCook on Sep 11, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I expect the last 12 games

to draw very well, with the only exception being the oak series.

RG’s ridiculous statement about 30,000 being a tough task for the Rangers to get this weekend was just stupid

by kevinkinsler on Sep 11, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that should have been the slogan the last few years.

Texas Rangers, not bad enough to get a top 5 draft pick

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Sep 11, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh

Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...

Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?

by Brian Thomas on Sep 11, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it was, wasn't it?

Built for Mediocrity

Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
ElectricOkra.com

by WhipSmart on Sep 11, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

From 2001-03

Texas wasn’t even close to being the worst team in the A.L. in that stretch.

All three years, Detroit and Tampa had a worse record than Texas did. In 2001 and 2002, Baltimore had a worse record, and in 2003, they had the same record.

Kansas City had a better record than Texas in 2003, but during that stretch as a whole, they had a worse record.

Texas has never been a perennial 95-loss clusterShowalter team. That’s part of their problem…they consistently, throughout their history, hover around 75-85 wins.

by Adam J. Morris on Sep 11, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup.

The problem with Rangers history is that it’s mostly irrelevant. No playoff success, not that many memorable seasons, but also not many memorably bad seasons. Just a whole long history of not-that-bad-but-not-that-good-either meh-ness.

by philkid3 on Sep 11, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

First, I never said it was the worst team

and you’re point about never having really good draft picks, other than the Teixeira pick, is really part of the problem. The team in 2003 really looked like it was about to be mired in mediocrity for a long time. That is my definition of hopeless – no real hope for improvement (obviously not yours). The ARod signing did something weird to the feel of the team and rumors of his impending departure were imminent despite his MVP play. CHoP (nothing more needs to be said). Blalock and Teixeira were young and on the horizon, but the caliber of pitching depth in the farm system – which was the obvious need for the club – was a complete joke.

I describe that as hopeless.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Sep 11, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh, and re-reading the comment

the “(obviously not yours)” did not apply to your hope for improvement; but rather your definition of hopeless. Not trying to offend there, AJM.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Sep 11, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Justin Smoak

Just hit another bomb for team USA (against a lefty no less).

He’s now 5-9 with 3 HRs, 2 2B, 6RBI and a BB in 2 games.

by LiamP on Sep 11, 2009 1:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

and then jammed his wrist or hand playing first.

(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."

by mtex on Sep 11, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Elvis should be ROY

there is no question in my biased, homerified mind

by BuckyB on Sep 11, 2009 1:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Out of curiosity

what would it take to DiceK??

After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL

by hinduplaya on Sep 11, 2009 2:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

the Sox giving us a lot of money to pay him.

(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."

by mtex on Sep 11, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That Keith Law chat was hilarious

I wish he had time for more Yankee fans’ ’questions."

Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...

Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?

by Brian Thomas on Sep 11, 2009 2:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Anyone giving odds

on whether or not the game happens tonite?

Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
ElectricOkra.com

by WhipSmart on Sep 11, 2009 3:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nope

but I’m bringing the good rain ponchos instead of the flimsy emergency ones I always have in our bag. That I already know this at 3:20 is not a good sign.

"I think I'm going to name my new car Scooter, because it dominates on the road." - mikeyoungfuturehof, 9.11.09
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08

by lisa w on Sep 11, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hard to say.

Maybe, but I’m guessing there’s no way of avoiding a rain delay of some sort.

Radar

Ric Renner is a giant douche.

by txhc on Sep 11, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't think about until

I saw the counterclockwise rotation on the radar. All this stuff must be the remnants of the hirricane that struck Baja, Mexico.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Sep 11, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

trivia question

Three active players with a minimum of 1000 PAs are in the top 10 all time in OPS. Who are they? Which two have a career OPS above 1.000?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Sep 11, 2009 4:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Albert, Manny and Helton?

I know Pujols is on there and fairly sure of Manny, and it depends on Helton’s last few years if it has drug his #’s down

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on Sep 11, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

just looked it up

ur correct, also helton is 10th on the all time list, he mightve been able to get it over 1000 if u remove last years stats from the equation (sits at .995 career)

go here to view my blog: http://dirtfromd.blogspot.com

by studcrackers on Sep 11, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Neyer = Genius

Scott Feldman – "The greatest Hawaiian-born Jewish baseball player to ever set foot on the mound."

by Section 339 on Sep 11, 2009 4:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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