Sunday morning Rangers stuff
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 13, 2009 10:19 AM CDT
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Doubleheader starting at 12:35 today? No. Jeff Miller says game 1 will start at 2:05 at the earliest, with the weather situation the way it is. It was mentioned yesterday that the Rangers could be out of the race by the end of the day today, but with getting one game in being questionable, much less two, it makes that a lot less likely.
Anthony Andro states the obvious -- Kevin Millwood was terrible yesterday, and continued a trend of poor pitching by Millwood of late.
In Millwood's last 6 starts, the Rangers are 1-5, with Millwood giving up 21 walks and 2 HBPs against just 20 Ks in 31 2/3 innings. He's allowed 6 homers, 23 runs, and is allowing a .297/.399/.539 line. The new conditioning program and all that doesn't seem to be enough to get him across the finish line.
I have a theory that, as an athlete, if you wait until your body starts to betray you to put in the extra work and dedicate yourself to better conditioning, it is too late. If conditioning is not a priority to you, and then in your early 30s you start to struggle and break down, suddenly trying to get in shape isn't going to help a whole lot. The people who take care of themselves from the outset, who work to maintain their physical condition from their youth, are going to be able to keep their bodies in a condition that will allow them to succeed longer. But trying to turn back time after your body has started to break down is not, I suspect, going to give you near the benefits. Maybe I should email Will Carroll and ask him about that.
Regardless of all this, Andro says the Rangers players are still resolved to play well in the face of adversity.
Ray Buck has injury updates regarding Josh Hamilton, Michael Young, and Jarrod Saltalamacchia, with Salty apparently considering surgery now rather than waiting. Hamilton's back injury is apparently a cascade injury, fallout from his back having to pick up the slack in supporting his body after the abdominal injury earlier this year.
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We could all watch the Boys while we wait.
:D
by Too Legit To quit on Sep 13, 2009 10:25 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Yay! Go (who are the Cowboys going to lose to today?)!
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Sep 13, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't lose worse than Rice did.
by brettgardner on Sep 13, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oooh.... it hurts
Yeah, that score popped up on my cell phone at dinner and took me aback. I knew they would lose, but it’d have been nice not to remind me of the old UT-Rice games. Stupid Owls. But we’re going to have a bad year after losing our three best offensive players. (what, Tech lost theirs too?… oh.)
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Sep 13, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh
I’m just giving you a little shit cause you had to rain on the Cowboys’ parade on opening day.
But in all seriousness, I don’t expect anything resembling a repeat of last season for Tech. 9 wins + midlevel bowl game is a fine goal to aim for in a year like this. I even worry about reaching that mark, though, with Lewis getting hurt and the complete lack of a running game so far.
by brettgardner on Sep 13, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand Potts looked pretty darn Harrell/Kingsbury-esque yesterday.
And who was that guy who caught three TDs for the Raiders?
"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009
by ghtd36 on Sep 13, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lyle Leong.
Hasn’t played too much the last couple of years, but he got the job done yesterday.
by brettgardner on Sep 13, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't lose worse that Texas College did last night 92-0
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
by boomer1 on Sep 13, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is an ass whoopin' right there.
Texas College took their first drive of the night and went down the field to the 3 yard line and got picked off.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
by boomer1 on Sep 13, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't he go to Abilene High with Potts?
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
by TxStCa on Sep 13, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure that's possible/probable.
But there’s so many other variables when it comes to longevity of a player’s career. You could make the argument that players will exercise too much when they’re young, leading to too much muscle mass and not enough agility/limberness that could also lead to injury. Plus there are some players who are athletic enough to maintain a reasonable level of production despite not putting in the same number of hours in the gym that other players do. So I don’t know how predictive asking a player about the offseason training regimen from the time their 18 until now would be.
Then again, training regimens are getting more position specific from a earlier age. I could see how starting one of these training regimens early in your career could help, but I’m not sure how much it had been studied when Millwood was a developing player. So in other words, I think it could be helpful in extending careers for players who are in their mid to late 20s now, but I’m not sure how much knowledge of/hours spent on offseason training regimens would have helped for expectations of Millwood’s career.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Sep 13, 2009 10:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll say the obvious
this team should have traded Millwood at or near July 31st when they had the chance. Obviously that is a lot of hindsight, but the team would be better now, have less of a financial headache looking forward, and would likely have gotten a few nice prospects.
But whatever, in two months he’s gone from being the “ace” to being essentially Padilla for this club.
I couldn’t listen to the game yesterday, but was Millwood’s ineffectiveness that obvious at the start? It looked that way from the box score. If so, Wash should have yanked him earlier. But at the same time, I admire Wash for not putting Feliz or someone more essential out there in a lost cause. That whole situation yesterday was so screwed the team is better off just taking the loss and trying to make sure it’s in good condition for today.
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Sep 13, 2009 10:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yes, pretty much
one of the disappointing things about millwood this year has been his inability to bounce back from shaky starts. it seems like tommy hunter has had a rough 1st inning or two several times and gone on to salvage 6 solid innings from it. milwood just limps to the 5th or 6th inning and barely does anything to keep us in the game when he doesnt have his stuff.
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Sep 13, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That third inning made it pretty clear what kind of game Millwood was going to have
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
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-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Sep 13, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would like to see a time line of Millwood's starts
bwcause it seem his struggles started after he hurt his glute. If so, id he come back too soon, or has he injured something else? Odd that he has just turned completely to crap.
"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young
by randyd on Sep 13, 2009 10:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What would suck
is if he was injured and not telling anyone because he wants that option to vest….
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Sep 13, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If this is the case
The Rangers should have a case of not having to pay him. Fuck the players union.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
by boomer1 on Sep 13, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point...
if that is the case, I hope Nolan takes him outback and shoots him.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
by TxStCa on Sep 13, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's my guess
as to what’s going on. I have my money on a strained hammy.
by MikeEl on Sep 13, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well if that's the case
they need to send him to the doctor and make sure. I would have already done it, he’s gassed for whatever reason, and at this point I’m looking for any reason at all to bench him if I’m making the decisions.
Ric Renner is a giant douche.
by txhc on Sep 13, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe this
more than I believe he started to late to work out. Seeing an athlete injure themselves, then rush back and adjust their delivery to compensate, and not play at a high level is fairly common. Most likely another couple weeks on the DL would have been better, but I’m sure Millwood was desperate to vest.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
by DJCahill on Sep 13, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nver mind. I looked at his game log, and he seemed to be turning bad 3-4 starts before the injury.
"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young
by randyd on Sep 13, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Millwood needs just one thing:
a kick-ass sports montage.
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/153324
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Sep 13, 2009 10:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Millwood done
I can’t see him being any value to this team this year. I think nipples is honestly a better option now. We all see that milly gives this team no chance to win!
On another note, Hamilton has turned into a big pussy this year and has essentially become a one year wonder. I doubt he hit anything close to 2008 numbers.
by De Peche Ranger on Sep 13, 2009 10:46 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Yes, definitely a one year wonder
Why do people ignore what Hamilton did in Cinncy?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Sep 13, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Flashes
Hamilton has all the tools and flashes greatness but even in Cincy it was short lived, thus their willingness to move him, albeit the off the field risks as well
by De Peche Ranger on Sep 13, 2009 10:52 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
They would only trade him for one of the top pitching prospects in baseball who was ML ready at the time
And they had a top CF prospect waiting to bring up as well. He also had gastroenteritis that season and missed a few weeks because of that. Maybe the sprained wrist he suffered later in that season shows us how fragile he is, but I doubt it.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Sep 13, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he got hurt in Cincy
I don’t think he is a one year wonder, but I doubt his ability to stay healthy for a full season. the guy is injury prone and the severe drug use in the past can also be catching up to him.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Sep 13, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
Drug use will take a toll. I love Hamilton but expected so much more from him tgiis year. 2010 is a big ??? for him.
by De Peche Ranger on Sep 13, 2009 10:56 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
He needs to take time to get healthy
That’s been his problem this year. He never actually got fully healthy and never changed his playing style while not at 100%. If the offense wasn’t in such poor shape, I think the Rangers would have been much more willing to let him sit out and rest earlier in the season to get him back to 100%. They likely felt they couldn’t afford that and now its been one thing after another for Hamilton. Still, he’s had a pretty solid year with the bat when you consider the injuries he’s playing with and his early season slump.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Sep 13, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa.
Those opinions are red hot.
by brettgardner on Sep 13, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correction
Post AS break being of no value… Millwood was very good pre-AS break.
by De Peche Ranger on Sep 13, 2009 10:54 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Byrd
With Hamilton ???, it is critical to find a way to keep Byrd. He has had a good year and unlike Hamilton, Byrd has actually contributed to the success of this team.
by De Peche Ranger on Sep 13, 2009 10:48 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Bleh
Career year for Byrd. We don’t need to overpay for one of those again.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Sep 13, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep
we have a glut of outfielders and we need another big bat in this lineup. Marlon Byrd is not that guy, and although there is ‘mutual’ interest in him returning, he’ll make more money by going elsewhere.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Sep 13, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think the Rangers have a "glut" of outfielders
Borbon
Hamilton – a question mark due to injuries, not ability
Cruz – top prime trade bait the Rangers have
Murphy – I still don’t think he is starter quality, maybe as a #5
So for OF and DH, 4 spots, that leaves 3 good players assuming Hamilton stays healthy and the Rangers don’t trade Cruz. I don’t think they should trade Cruz but they need to re-sign Byrd – at a reasonable price, which I think may be possible – and an additional OF/DH to fill a hole, not a glut, in the organization.
by Mark from OC on Sep 13, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Confused on the Murphy part
What do you mean as a number 5? Do you mean as a 5th OF?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Sep 13, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Between OF and DH
Murphy is not an everyday starter, so he does not fall in a top 4 LF-CF-RF-DH. That still leaves the Rangers short at the position(s). Murphy is ok as a backup.
As for Boggs, I think the Rangers can do much better.
by Mark from OC on Sep 13, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Byrd is not an everyday starter
either. Well a below average-average one at best.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Sep 13, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure why DH is included in that
You might consider a poor defensive LF a DH if he hits well enough, but the Rangers OFs would only DH if they are hurt or the other DH option is that bad (like the Rangers have gone through this year).
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Sep 13, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The second reason you just typed
The Rangers other option at DH has been that bad through the years.
by Mark from OC on Sep 13, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they've been so bad
Would you want to see a guy with a career 110 OPS+ through nearly 1000 PAs playing there everyday?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Sep 13, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You forgot Boggs
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Sep 13, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why is there speculation that the Rangers would trade Cruz?
I don’t get it.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
by RangerMad on Sep 13, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope the Rangers don't trade him
But unless they are trading someone at a low value, he is their most tradeable offensive piece.
by Mark from OC on Sep 13, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So?
San Francisco’s most tradeable piece is Lincecum. They aren’t trading him anytime soon though.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Sep 13, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That means
The Rangers make no significant trades until at least next year’s trading deadline. None over the offseason. This is fine to me if the keep Cruz.
by Mark from OC on Sep 13, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see a significant trade being necessary this offseason
I’d like to see something done to help the team, but realistically there isn’t much we can do outside of finding a new owner with deep pockets. For the most part, the Rangers just need to find a few good role players to fill out the team.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Sep 13, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they have 2 holes
One already mentioned here, someone to fill in at OF and DH on an almost everyday basis unless they resign Byrd.
The other is the relief pitching. Beyond CJ, ODay, and Frankie the bullpen looks weak for 2010. Add a rebound project like the Rangers do every year and they are still weak in the pen moving forward. I say this believing Feliz is nothing but a starter next year.
by Mark from OC on Sep 13, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think either of those are needs
The OF next year is Cruz/Borbon/Hamilton with Murphy getting his playing time in there as well. Murphy might start the season as the DH until Smoak is called up and then he’s going to probably be DHing most of the time. Like I said in another post, MaxRam might be an option too.
The bullpen is fine. CJ, O’Day, and FX2 are a great core to work around. Beyond them, you have Doug Mathis, Dustin Nippert, AJ Murray, Guillermo Moscoso, Pedro Strop, Warner Madrigal, and Jason Grilli to choose from. Not all of those guys are going to succeed, but you’ll also have SP options who don’t have a spot in rotation and aren’t going to be pitching in the minors. That could include the guys recovering from injuries like Harrison and Hurley or maybe even Kiker from the minors. Then you also have any NRI, waiver claim, and minor trade that JD has always been able to make to get effective RPs.
I think the question marks of the team are at 1B, DH, and C. All 3 of those positions have internal options that the Rangers will (and should) try before looking into any outside options.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Sep 13, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure LAA will be happy to give him
a 5 year, 65 million dollar contract.
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Sep 13, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If that's true, then bye bye Byrd
But realistically, don’t you think the Angeles learned their lesson about signing Rangers OF’s?
by Mark from OC on Sep 13, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
x
isn’t that the same argument for Mark De La Rosa when he was here. Career year never do it again not worth the money?
I soloed in the Mile High Club!
by horsedooty on Sep 13, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good analogy
I think the Rangers need one or two Byrd-level type players again next year for the OF and DH positions. I am not sure there is a huge multi-year contract for him coming from another team this off-season, so hopefully the Rangers will be able to resign him.
by Mark from OC on Sep 13, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is Byrd's worst year as a Ranger
according to OPS+ and wOBA. If not for his increased playing time this year, his WAR would probably be identical to his 2007. 2008 was his career year. 2009 seems to be more of the norm for him.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Sep 13, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, homeruns
which is what way too many people look at it is. And his defense is so overrated.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Sep 13, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does that make Borbon's defense so bad then?
I don’t really know, just makes sense since Washington considers Borbon’s defense the worst of the current crop of OFs. Hopefully not.
by Mark from OC on Sep 13, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
?
I don’t give a fuck what Wash thinks. Everyone knows that Borbon this this team’s best defensive center fielder(Cruz might be a better outfielder)
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Sep 13, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cruz screwed up yet another ball in RF last night.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Sep 13, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What the Gutierrez ball?
The fuck he did.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Sep 13, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright, then why does the manager think he is not as good as the others?
Is it something he saw, something he heard about Borbon from the minor league staff, or just another gut feeling?
by Mark from OC on Sep 13, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its a team decision
They feel he still needs some more time to work on the small things and don’t want to bench one of their better defenders to let Borbon figure these things out at the ML level. Next season, they’ll play him full time in the OF.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Sep 13, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good explanation
But as a follow-up, what is different about fielding in the OF in the majors than the minors?
by Mark from OC on Sep 13, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not much
Just that when Borbon was learning on the fly in the minors, the Rangers record wasn’t being affected. So any time he had a mistake from inexperience (just 23 years old), the Rangers playoff chances wouldn’t get hurt.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Sep 13, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he still needs a lot of work
on his throwing. Right now it looks like he as David Eckstein type arm…
by MikeEl on Sep 13, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who said a thing about HRs?
Byrd’s power numbers this year (which includes his 40 doubles) have helped negate his lower walk rate this year, but it doesn’t mean that his season is overrated.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Sep 13, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
alot of people are treating Byrd like he’s something special and he’s not. You don’t need to pay 6-8Mill for a guy like him.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Sep 13, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he might get more
He’s really the only CF’er on the market this year.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Sep 13, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he keeps up his performance from the past 3 years
He is definitely worth that money. The problem is that the Rangers don’t have much of a need for a guy like Byrd with Borbon, Hamilton, Murphy, and Cruz here. I’d love to see Byrd back but with the finances and personnel we have here, that’s not a good route for the team to take.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Sep 13, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's also 32-33
How much longer can he keep it up?
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Sep 13, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's also coming back
from offseason knee surgery and playing centerfield everyday. It’s actually pretty remarkable that he’s been able to hold up as well as he has…
by MikeEl on Sep 13, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who is scheduled to pitch the first game?
I doubt they play two today.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
by RangerMad on Sep 13, 2009 10:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Hunter.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Sep 13, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright, I've got tickets to today's game.
Chances either of the games get going today?
"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009
by ghtd36 on Sep 13, 2009 11:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think you're likely to get at least one game in
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Sep 13, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Training wheels still on, pacifier in place.
CDavis hitting 8th in a line-up with Byrd & Murphy hitting 4th & 5th.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Sep 13, 2009 11:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Question
Are you going to make a “training wheels” comment about Davis’s placement in the lineup for every game from here on out?
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 13, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you know of any AL playoff teams that
that had a 1B in the 8 hole every day?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Sep 13, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That wasn't the question.
"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009
by ghtd36 on Sep 13, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blalock should have been hitting in the 11th hole
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
by boomer1 on Sep 13, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess that's a "yes"
There’s one reason, at least, to look forward to the end of the season.
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 13, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Adam
All Davis needs to do is perform.
What he has done this entire season is unacceptable for a team serious about winning.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Sep 13, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
That’s been true of both the Rangers’ first basemen.
"I cannot believe how fucking off base I was about Tiny E before this season. The Kid is great and is going to become a star."
- Wails
by RCCook on Sep 13, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
90 games (out of 140) go on the ledger of Chris Davis.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Sep 13, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So?
That doesn’t excuse Hank’s suckitude, particularly his utter and complete collapse since the All-Star break.
He has a .560 OPS in the second half. That’s beyond a black hole.
"I cannot believe how fucking off base I was about Tiny E before this season. The Kid is great and is going to become a star."
- Wails
by RCCook on Sep 13, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When the Rangers...
…were getting back on track after their early struggles, Davis carried This Thing.
From 4/25 to 5/13, Davis put up a 968 OPS and the Rangers went 13-5 in the games he was in.
Clearly, he was the catalyst that got the team going in that hot stretch early on that showed everyone This Thing was for real.
Davis = MVP
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 13, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
If that makes you feel better, Adam.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Sep 13, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes hard to tell with you, genius.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Sep 13, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the best Adam response ever.
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Sep 13, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
He’s been better since his return, but he’s still not performed like a starting major league first baseman has.
I just don’t see the point in the daily “training wheels are still on” comment.
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 13, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Adam
He is either good enough to hit higher in the order or he’s not.
This team has babied him enough and it’s time to find out what they have.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Sep 13, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This post could be a response to any number of Josey Wales posts
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Sep 13, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does he ever?
His post are kind of like watching a dog chase his tail…round and round he goes.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
by boomer1 on Sep 13, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny that you keep saying things like that
When you seem to get into it with Josey every day
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Sep 13, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really on baseball stuff anymore
More on his ancillary bits, but point taken.
by brettgardner on Sep 13, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As long as Adam keeps biting and lets him post
Josey’s just going to keep trolling away. Not much anyone can do except not get caught in his crap and just enjoy the ass he makes of himself.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Sep 13, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The pacifier, training wheels and gut are doing thier job
1-2 yesterday, a 2B, 2 runs, BB and K.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year
by RangerMad on Sep 13, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pine Box in dirt, splinters in ass.
Batlack still not in the lineup…Good.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Sep 13, 2009 11:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There are only three AL teams whose composite 1B have less than a .719 OPS
for the season.
Chris Davis has not had a single month in The Show with an OPS above .719.
I am now President of the Justin Smoak Fan Club.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Sep 13, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
in 2009.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Sep 13, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smoak sucked this year in AAA.
Dude can hit offspeed stuff for power very good.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Sep 13, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still Smoak's biggest fan
because we can’t live with a 1B who has an OPS below .710.
Jeeeeez, Tiny E hit better than that as an 18 year old in AA!!!
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Sep 13, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tiny E
Since the All-Star Break:
Tiny E (164 AB): 311/374/463
Hank F (156 AB): 199/227/333
But those were important hits…
"I cannot believe how fucking off base I was about Tiny E before this season. The Kid is great and is going to become a star."
- Wails
by RCCook on Sep 13, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tiny E isn't ready for The Show but...
Hank was built for Prime Time this year.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
by boomer1 on Sep 13, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In September, Davis has an .855 OPS
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Sep 13, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's 10 games, gdawg.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Sep 13, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
4pm start at the earliest.
"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009
by ghtd36 on Sep 13, 2009 12:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad
that at least they’re making these decisions before we go out there. As opposed to hours sitting in the rain, like we did Friday.
"I think I'm going to name my new car Scooter, because it dominates on the road." - mikeyoungfuturehof, 9.10.09
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
by lisa w on Sep 13, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eff
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Sep 13, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and:
The possibility exists that Houston could become an option for the Rangers-A’s series that is scheduled to start Monday.
That would be quite odd.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Sep 13, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be sweet
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Sep 13, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why?
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
by boomer1 on Sep 13, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For me it would...
…because I live here, and have a light week.
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 13, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I get your point
But unless kinslerhomer lives in Houston I don’t get it.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
by boomer1 on Sep 13, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would just be kinda funny
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Sep 13, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ian Kinsler
thinks of the short porch and approves of this idea.
by MikeEl on Sep 13, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so does this
2:05 and 4:00 bullshit mean the games wont be televised? I hate Bud Selig
by blueballlefty on Sep 13, 2009 12:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The games have to be televised I would think.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Sep 13, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you know the rules?
because the rules I heard said any game that through the first pitch after 4 wont be televised because it would interfere with ESPN’s precious Sunday night baseball
by blueballlefty on Sep 13, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rays have two on, no out in the 7th
down 1-0.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
by Josey Wales on Sep 13, 2009 12:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They need to score
Rangers need then to score.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
by boomer1 on Sep 13, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tie game!
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
by boomer1 on Sep 13, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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