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Jeremy (Displaced Ranger fan in NYC):

Hi Buster. I have two questions (1) Are the Rangers actually building a contending team or did they just play over their heads this year; and (2) What do you make of Hicks' statement that MLB didn't stop them from signing Purke or blocking the Kazmir move?

Buster Olney (1:11 PM):

Jeremy -- No. 1, I think they've put together a great core of players that could be really, really good for 2010 and 2011, at least. And No. 2, I think the Rangers' financial problems are serious, moreso than what Mr. Hicks said the other day.

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by NYTXFAN on Sep 14, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Im Ron Burgundy?

08/03/2009 A day that will live in infamy for the rest of the AL West.

by Michael Cave on Sep 14, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hicks is broke

I have to give Hicks credit for one thing, he did (FINALLY) hire JD. This organization rocks right now. I love them. Hicks can go bankrupt for all I care.

by 3Bagger on Sep 14, 2009 12:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Hicks isn't "broke."

He’s simply decided not to be the personal guarantor for HSG’s massive debt obligations anymore, which means HSG’s creditors are a little more nervous now than they used to be.

by JDT217 on Sep 14, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

At what point

do the creditors just force HSG into bankruptcy?

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Sep 14, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder what Hick's personal

financial situation really is? He may not be the guarantor because he can’t not because he doesn’t want to do it.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Sep 14, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think thats probably the real truth.

Not that he is broke necessarily, but he is completely illiquid, and has to sell holdings to pay debt, and isn’t willing to sell at current market prices.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Sep 14, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

So push will never come to shove on this?

He can just stave off the wolves until he feels it is a good time to sell?

How the hell does that work?

Hank is the elephant in the room. When will he disappear?

by inactive lsb user on Sep 15, 2009 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

For reasons that make no sense to me

his creditors don’t want to push him.

"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland

by DJCahill on Sep 15, 2009 6:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

the debt was either personally guaranteed

or it wasn’t. can’t just change your mind. sure, he apparantly stopped personally funding HSG’s losses, which seems strange for a self-proclaimed billionaire.

by SteveP on Sep 14, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

The season is ending on a downer

One reason is that the playoffs are looking more remote by the day but that will pass with time when I look at what a great year they had and mostly with a bunch of kids. Eventually, I will get some perspective on the year and be very proud.

But the main reason I am discouraged is the financial mess. This cant do anything but hurt. Bud Selig is running our club and that sucks. Hopefully, a new owner can be found and put in place before too much long term damage is done.

by BEW on Sep 14, 2009 12:56 PM CDT reply actions  

HSG's situation did have an effect this year

JD was unable to take on any money. Victor Martinez sure would have looked good in a Ranger uniform.

I agree with most of what you said. The bullpen won’t be losing many pieces next year. They could use a loogy but that is not a priority. With the team’s desire to break in SPs through tthe pen, I am not sure they need any NRIs RPs.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Sep 14, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Obviously there is an effect

but you can’t just look at these things in isolation. Yeah, Victor Martinez would look good in Rangers red/blue. But would Feliz look just as good in an Indians uniform?

I was advocating making a move at the deadline. But my point is that having an empty wallet may just save us from ourselves. If the Indians had offered Martinez for Feliz, and Texas could have afforded him, I imagine the pressure would have been very great to pull the trigger. Right now, I’m happy that they didn’t even have the option.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Sep 14, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Very good post

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Sep 14, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you have a lot of trust in the front office, then I don't think you should be worrying so much about bad contracts

This line of reasoning made sense when we had John Hart running things, but I think I’d rather give JD a checkbook instead of not giving him a checkbook.

by cstorm15 on Sep 14, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

exactly it's ALWAYS better to have the money option...

You can candy coat it however you like. Of course you’d rather have the option of doing things like the Angels, Yankees and Red Sox do. If they need something they go out and get it. If your FO is smart they’ll hopefully make the right moves and you’ll instantly have a better team instead of waiting for prospects to bear fruit, which may or may not happen and will take years and years. It would be nice to be able to do both.

HH is that a sock in your puppet or are you happy to see me?

by BigGuns on Sep 14, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

it’s been a fun season while it lasted. Go Cowboys!

by icouldusesomebaseball on Sep 14, 2009 1:51 PM CDT reply actions  

the season isn't over

and screw football. i get enough football talk during the baseball season as it is. Cowboys overrated and not going anywhere.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Sep 14, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

That storm is moving like an iceberg

in a counterclockwise motion and is now just getting ready to hit DFW.

I don’t think we’re playing tonight.

DH on Wednesday?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Sep 14, 2009 1:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Dammit

I have tickets to watch SF go for #17

by De Peche Ranger on Sep 14, 2009 3:05 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

could happen

the weather should be clearing up tomorrow and Wednesday.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Sep 14, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

That would probably mean

the pitchers for the LAA series would be Hunter, Holland and Feldman. I am assuming Feldman would pitch on Tuesday and Nippert and BMac on Wed.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland -Tom Grieve Rangers Minor League Player of the Year
Martin Perez - Nolan Ryan Rangers Minor League Pitcher of the Year

by RangerMad on Sep 14, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Inside Corner says

the rain is supposed to go away by game time.

All I see is a radar that doesn’t seem to be very baseball-friendly.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Sep 14, 2009 3:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Is that "wheel" of precipiation

going to miss Arlington?

There is precipitation all the way up to Gainesville and it is moving very slowly to the south.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"

by Josey Wales on Sep 14, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's very light and seems to be dissipating at the moment

Once this last little bit moves through, looks to be all clear

by octoberty on Sep 14, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

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